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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: music123 on June 08, 2006, 01:21:17 PM
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Kanye West in my opinion is the greatest thing to happen to Hip Hop. Playing both roles of musician and producer he comes out with the sickest rhymes and illest beats. Check out what he’s got up his sleeve in this great article I found…
http://www.blender.com/guide/articles.aspx?id=1941&src=gm68
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written by yourself? :P
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Kanye is an arrogant homo.
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i think music123 is Kanye under a disguise...
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Kanye West is the new P. Diddy, media attention whore with shitty music
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Yes, he's dope....for now. Cats with an ego that huge usually always fall to the way side. They get so high on themselves that they only surround themselves with yes-men who mislead him and before you know it, Kanye's albums are floppin'.
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:D
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Hes one cocky dude thats true. But he is a great producer and he dropped 2 very very dope albums.
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shut up kanye
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No doubt I believe he’s a mad talented artist, but I believe the only problem peeps got with him is that he believes his dick drags on the pavement and says it. Honestly though if he didnt talk like that he prob wouldn't be the talk of conversation and just a regular artist. Like they say, "controversy sells," so I agree that he’s probably one of the greatest but the way brags also pulls him back down to an ignorant nigga with a record deal.
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Kanye is an arrogant homo.
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you guys are not understanding how Kanye West is more Hip-Hop than any artist out there, except maybe Immortal Technique. Kanye found a way to make old school production styles sell in todays market, and he is one hell of an artist. His cocky attitude is a reflection of boosting emcees from the 70's and early 80's. Kanye is as Hip-Hop as Run DMC when they walked through the Rock N Roll hall of fame, saying they were the kings of rock.
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Yes, he's dope....for now. Cats with an ego that huge usually always fall to the way side. They get so high on themselves that they only surround themselves with yes-men who mislead him and before you know it, Kanye's albums are floppin'.
Word to all of that.
I will say that I think Kanye has been behind some of the best shit in the last few years. He's def not my favorite rapper, but he has more substance and skill than lots of "rappers" today. I think a cat like him is def good for hip hop. I hope he stays creative and always trys to learn new shit. Thats all I ask. 8)
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He's definitely talented and bringing back some sort of creativity to hip hop. I do believe his aggrogance is going to get the best of him, but until then I'll rock with it.
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Kanye is as Hip-Hop as Run DMC when they walked through the Rock N Roll hall of fame, saying they were the kings of rock.
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Kanye is as Hip-Hop as Run DMC when they walked through the Rock N Roll hall of fame, saying they were the kings of rock.
That was aa music video and it was presented in the same tongue and cheek way there other videos were presented. Rev Run wasn't going into interviews bragging about how superior he is in a very serious way or making threats about not winning a Grammy, or saying the Bible wasn't well written and should include him. With RUN DMC they were jokers having a good time. With Kanye he is a joke living in the spotlight on borrowed time.
P.S. The only difference between his production style and Puffy's is Kanye turns the tempo up a bit and loops less popular songs. It's not old school production. There is nothing about his production that makes me think DJ Premier, or Marley Marl. Then again if you mean old school like Rapper's Delight production then I can agree, bit that's the kind of production that's been with Hip Hop forever. Whether it was Run DMC on Tricky, Hammer on Can't Touch This, Vanilla Ice on Ice Ice Baby, Dre on G Thang, Warren G on Regulate, Puffy on I'll be Missing You Dre and Em on My Name Is, or Kanye on Jesus Walks, it's all the same; take a good established piece of music, loop it, add a drum track, and call yourself a genius. There are complex very artistic ways to use samples like a lot did in the 80s, and even Moby did a few years ago, but Kanye's style is not one of those ways.
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Kanye is trash!
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Kanye is as Hip-Hop as Run DMC when they walked through the Rock N Roll hall of fame, saying they were the kings of rock.
That was aa music video and it was presented in the same tongue and cheek way there other videos were presented. Rev Run wasn't going into interviews bragging about how superior he is in a very serious way or making threats about not winning a Grammy, or saying the Bible wasn't well written and should include him. With RUN DMC they were jokers having a good time. With Kanye he is a joke living in the spotlight on borrowed time.
P.S. The only difference between his production style and Puffy's is Kanye turns the tempo up a bit and loops less popular songs. It's not old school production. There is nothing about his production that makes me think DJ Premier, or Marley Marl. Then again if you mean old school like Rapper's Delight production then I can agree, bit that's the kind of production that's been with Hip Hop forever. Whether it was Run DMC on Tricky, Hammer on Can't Touch This, Vanilla Ice on Ice Ice Baby, Dre on G Thang, Warren G on Regulate, Puffy on I'll be Missing You Dre and Em on My Name Is, or Kanye on Jesus Walks, it's all the same; take a good established piece of music, loop it, add a drum track, and call yourself a genius. There are complex very artistic ways to use samples like a lot did in the 80s, and even Moby did a few years ago, but Kanye's style is not one of those ways.
I was talking old school like Rappers Delight, like Run DMC, and his cocky attitude is the same as those who of that era. Rappers then boosted all the time, in very immature ways. In fact, that era reflected more of a Nelly feel than a N.W.A./Public Enemy feel. Kanye is a throw back to the early 80's, with meaningful songs, old school production, and bragging at every chance he gets. Kanye is as Hip-Hop as Run DMC, as the Sugar Hill Gang, Kanye is right, Hip-Hop since 1978, 'cause that's his era. His a student of the game, and it shows.
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to say he has changed the game or made his own style is ridiculous
give it more time and he'll be another 50 Cent, gone with the wind
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No on can deny he is one of the greatest producers of all time, plus he dropped two classic albums, and I agree he is a cocky arrogant prick who I don't really like as a person, but as far as music goes he's fuckin' dope
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Kanye is as Hip-Hop as Run DMC when they walked through the Rock N Roll hall of fame, saying they were the kings of rock.
That was aa music video and it was presented in the same tongue and cheek way there other videos were presented. Rev Run wasn't going into interviews bragging about how superior he is in a very serious way or making threats about not winning a Grammy, or saying the Bible wasn't well written and should include him. With RUN DMC they were jokers having a good time. With Kanye he is a joke living in the spotlight on borrowed time.
P.S. The only difference between his production style and Puffy's is Kanye turns the tempo up a bit and loops less popular songs. It's not old school production. There is nothing about his production that makes me think DJ Premier, or Marley Marl. Then again if you mean old school like Rapper's Delight production then I can agree, bit that's the kind of production that's been with Hip Hop forever. Whether it was Run DMC on Tricky, Hammer on Can't Touch This, Vanilla Ice on Ice Ice Baby, Dre on G Thang, Warren G on Regulate, Puffy on I'll be Missing You Dre and Em on My Name Is, or Kanye on Jesus Walks, it's all the same; take a good established piece of music, loop it, add a drum track, and call yourself a genius. There are complex very artistic ways to use samples like a lot did in the 80s, and even Moby did a few years ago, but Kanye's style is not one of those ways.
I was talking old school like Rappers Delight, like Run DMC, and his cocky attitude is the same as those who of that era. Rappers then boosted all the time, in very immature ways. In fact, that era reflected more of a Nelly feel than a N.W.A./Public Enemy feel. Kanye is a throw back to the early 80's, with meaningful songs, old school production, and bragging at every chance he gets. Kanye is as Hip-Hop as Run DMC, as the Sugar Hill Gang, Kanye is right, Hip-Hop since 1978, 'cause that's his era. His a student of the game, and it shows.
I never said he wasn't hip hop or that rappers aren't/weren't cocky. The very idea of rap is about being cocky. 90% of hip hop is bragging, whether it's about who's the bigger gangster, who gets more and better girls, who has more jewlery, or who is the better rapper, but the difference between Kanye's attitude and the old school attitude is that Kanye says very contraversial things probably for the sake of being contraversial and keeping his name out in the mainstream, and it's often utterly stupid. Someone like KRS-One may have even been more cocky than Kanye but no where near as stupid. Some of the stuff KRS would say was silly but it wouldn't push the same buttons Kanye tries to push. Kanye gets large groups of people very angry at him because he comes across so serious.
And as far as meaningful songs. Most of Kanye's songs are pseudo meaningful. There isn't that much of a difference in Kanye's lyrics and any othere rappers. His are just toned down as far as violence and vulgarity go.
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kanye is one of the best in the game i.m.o...