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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Javier on July 01, 2006, 01:54:03 PM
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Portugal
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France
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WHAT ABOUT NOW YOU STUPID ASS MOTHAFUCKAS?
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What the fuck are you babbling about woman?
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Another classic
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FRANCE 2006 !!!
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France will take it if they play well again..
germany france final!
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Basically world cup ended for me but if I want anyone to win its France. Because of the amazing Zizou.
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france will take it.... easily!!!!!
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Normally I'd say France, but Portugal won 3 games in a row that I didn't expect them to win - so I really don't know. Can't imagine Portugal to win it all tho.
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damn you can't waste some money in bets. because you loose all your bets.
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Scolari is burn under a lucky star but I hope Zidane, ops France wins.
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Scolari is burn under a lucky star but I hope Zidane, ops France wins.
lucky star? is this your best excuse?
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zizou >>>>>> any of those porto bitches ;D
hate me you portugese kuthoeren
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zizou >>>>>> any of those porto bitches ;D
hate me you portugese kuthoeren
portugal water boy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any of those poland homosexual bithces
you're the one whos hatin polish filha da puta
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zizou >>>>>> any of those porto bitches ;D
hate me you portugese kuthoeren
portugal water boy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any of those poland homosexual bithces
you're the one whos hatin polish filha da puta
i feel the love, didn't you hear figo and beckham give that speech against racism. let's stop it together :( AND UNITE !
go porto.
lol
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zizou >>>>>> any of those porto bitches ;D
hate me you portugese kuthoeren
portugal water boy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any of those poland homosexual bithces
you're the one whos hatin polish filha da puta
i feel the love, didn't you hear figo and beckham give that speech against racism. let's stop it together :( AND UNITE !
go porto.
lol
ain't no need for that, I was so touched by the speech they gave that after that I united with your momma.so it's all good
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Portugal because of felipao
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Portugal because of felipao
if y'all had him as coach brasil wouldve been champ again.in my opinion brasil got the better team since pele anda garrincha but someway they managed to fuck it up due to some players and the coach.agora o hexa se foi,talvez daki a 4 anos
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portugal will be at full strength tho wont they?
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portugal will be at full strength tho wont they?
let's see.france is the hardest team they have to face in this WC.they were the shit against brasil
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Portugal because of felipao
if y'all had him as coach brasil wouldve been champ again.in my opinion brasil got the better team since pele anda garrincha but someway they managed to fuck it up due to some players and the coach.agora o hexa se foi,talvez daki a 4 anos
vc fala portugues?
yeah we had the best team in a long time...It was coaching IMO...he put the wrong players on the field and didnt prepare the team like felipao
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Portugal because of felipao
if y'all had him as coach brasil wouldve been champ again.in my opinion brasil got the better team since pele anda garrincha but someway they managed to fuck it up due to some players and the coach.agora o hexa se foi,talvez daki a 4 anos
vc fala portugues?
yeah we had the best team in a long time...It was coaching IMO...he put the wrong players on the field and didnt prepare the team like felipao
sim eu sou portugues.
you got that right.felipao was hard on ronaldo and due to that he got in shape after his long time injury and was the top striker.parreira was like a father to him and placed him in the field with no need to get in shape,he ws just gettin in shape at the games not at practise where the coach shouldve had him running like a mothafucka.parreira was a fuckin poor coach in this WC,with the best team fucked it up.he shoulve played with robinho and ronaldo at front ronaldinho more advanced in the field and maybe with cicinho instead of cafu.and when ronaldinho was playin like shit he shouldve tak him off.as if that wasnt enough he still managed the whole group in a awfull fuckin way.we did not have the brasil that we used too and that fucks me up cuz I wanted so see some big show going on and a portuguese speakin semi-final.so fuck parreira for that.wonderful team bad fuckin coach
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France... (we already have won 2 semis against them in the past in Euro though), plus I hate these cryin bitches.. they didn't play like men against England
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zizou >>>>>> any of those porto bitches ;D
hate me you portugese kuthoeren
portugal water boy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any of those poland homosexual bithces
you're the one whos hatin polish filha da puta
i feel the love, didn't you hear figo and beckham give that speech against racism. let's stop it together :( AND UNITE !
go porto.
lol
ain't no need for that, I was so touched by the speech they gave that after that I united with your momma.so it's all good
lol @ the momma comment, u can suck deeez nuts.
portugal stinks anyway i dont care if im hating they are the dramaqueens of this WC i hope france will whip their asses cauz its ABOUT FUCKING TIME SOMEONE DOES
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zizou >>>>>> any of those porto bitches ;D
hate me you portugese kuthoeren
portugal water boy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any of those poland homosexual bithces
you're the one whos hatin polish filha da puta
i feel the love, didn't you hear figo and beckham give that speech against racism. let's stop it together :( AND UNITE !
go porto.
lol
ain't no need for that, I was so touched by the speech they gave that after that I united with your momma.so it's all good
lol @ the momma comment, u can suck deeez nuts.
portugal stinks anyway i dont care if im hating they are the dramaqueens of this WC i hope france will whip their asses cauz its ABOUT FUCKING TIME SOMEONE DOES
ok man no need to get angry.you've been sayin that since the round of 16 and you're always wrong.keep the hatin that just makes us stronger
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zizou >>>>>> any of those porto bitches ;D
hate me you portugese kuthoeren
portugal water boy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any of those poland homosexual bithces
you're the one whos hatin polish filha da puta
i feel the love, didn't you hear figo and beckham give that speech against racism. let's stop it together :( AND UNITE !
go porto.
lol
ain't no need for that, I was so touched by the speech they gave that after that I united with your momma.so it's all good
lol @ the momma comment, u can suck deeez nuts.
portugal stinks anyway i dont care if im hating they are the dramaqueens of this WC i hope france will whip their asses cauz its ABOUT FUCKING TIME SOMEONE DOES
ok man no need to get angry.you've been sayin that since the round of 16 and you're always wrong.keep the hatin that just makes us stronger
and uve been saying that bullshit 'it makes us stronger' :) u wont succeed winnin this WC tho, just like last EC where greece pwned ur asses :-*
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zizou >>>>>> any of those porto bitches ;D
hate me you portugese kuthoeren
portugal water boy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any of those poland homosexual bithces
you're the one whos hatin polish filha da puta
i feel the love, didn't you hear figo and beckham give that speech against racism. let's stop it together :( AND UNITE !
go porto.
lol
ain't no need for that, I was so touched by the speech they gave that after that I united with your momma.so it's all good
lol @ the momma comment, u can suck deeez nuts.
portugal stinks anyway i dont care if im hating they are the dramaqueens of this WC i hope france will whip their asses cauz its ABOUT FUCKING TIME SOMEONE DOES
ok man no need to get angry.you've been sayin that since the round of 16 and you're always wrong.keep the hatin that just makes us stronger
and uve been saying that bullshit 'it makes us stronger' :) u wont succeed winnin this WC tho, just like last EC where greece pwned ur asses :-*
so much hatred in you god damn.it's not my fault you're coming from a fuckin bunch of gays no-skills for soccer country.and where's greece now ::).oh winning an EC is much better than a WC.start hatin again now at the end of the day you just one fuck bitter hater
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fuck double post , YOU DIDN'T SEE ANYTHANG.
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zizou >>>>>> any of those porto bitches ;D
hate me you portugese kuthoeren
portugal water boy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any of those poland homosexual bithces
you're the one whos hatin polish filha da puta
i feel the love, didn't you hear figo and beckham give that speech against racism. let's stop it together :( AND UNITE !
go porto.
lol
ain't no need for that, I was so touched by the speech they gave that after that I united with your momma.so it's all good
lol @ the momma comment, u can suck deeez nuts.
portugal stinks anyway i dont care if im hating they are the dramaqueens of this WC i hope france will whip their asses cauz its ABOUT FUCKING TIME SOMEONE DOES
ok man no need to get angry.you've been sayin that since the round of 16 and you're always wrong.keep the hatin that just makes us stronger
and uve been saying that bullshit 'it makes us stronger' :) u wont succeed winnin this WC tho, just like last EC where greece pwned ur asses :-*
so much hatred in you god damn.it's not my fault you're coming from a fuckin bunch of gays no-skills for soccer country.and where's greece now ::).oh winning an EC is much better than a WC.start hatin again now at the end of the day you just one fuck bitter hater
ur acting like portugal already won this ugly WC oh and for ur information:
Poland
Participations: 1938, 1974, 1978, 1982, 1986, 2002, 2006 (7 x)
Best Result: 1974 & 1982 3rd Place
Netherlands:
Participations: 1934, 1938, 1974, 1978, 1990, 1994, 1998, 2006 (8 x)
Best Result: 1974 & 1978 2nd
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Portugal:
Participations : 1966, 1986, 2002, 2006 (4 x)
Best Result: 1966 3rd place
my countries >>>>>>>>>> ur faggitish country
and its gay to get a boner from watching men playing a sport, so stfu and go jerk off on that poster above ur bed from that fag ronaldo.
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zizou >>>>>> any of those porto bitches ;D
hate me you portugese kuthoeren
portugal water boy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any of those poland homosexual bithces
you're the one whos hatin polish filha da puta
i feel the love, didn't you hear figo and beckham give that speech against racism. let's stop it together :( AND UNITE !
go porto.
lol
ain't no need for that, I was so touched by the speech they gave that after that I united with your momma.so it's all good
lol @ the momma comment, u can suck deeez nuts.
portugal stinks anyway i dont care if im hating they are the dramaqueens of this WC i hope france will whip their asses cauz its ABOUT FUCKING TIME SOMEONE DOES
ok man no need to get angry.you've been sayin that since the round of 16 and you're always wrong.keep the hatin that just makes us stronger
and uve been saying that bullshit 'it makes us stronger' :) u wont succeed winnin this WC tho, just like last EC where greece pwned ur asses :-*
so much hatred in you god damn.it's not my fault you're coming from a fuckin bunch of gays no-skills for soccer country.and where's greece now ::).oh winning an EC is much better than a WC.start hatin again now at the end of the day you just one fuck bitter hater
ur acting like portugal already won this ugly WC oh and for ur information:
Poland
Participations: 1938, 1974, 1978, 1982, 1986, 2002
Best Result: 1974 & 1982 3rd Place
Netherlands:
1998 4th
1974 & 1978 2nd
first of all I don't like c.ronaldo and simao>>ronaldo so fuck ronaldo he gotta go to the bench and second don't try to come up with jokes you suck at it.and why talkin about germany and poland,looks like you go both sides like in real life.we had the one of the best players ever - eusebio we stayed at 3rd in 66 cuz the WC was at england and we we're fucked up due to many situations befo the game.he's not in my country where you can legally marry another man.and yeah this whole Wc is suckin but fuck it we in the semi-finals
the dump I took two minutes ago>>>>>>your both countries bisexual bitch
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kids, go play somewhere else
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kids, go play somewhere else
ok daddy i leave de portugese kuthoeren alone :(
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zizou >>>>>> any of those porto bitches ;D
hate me you portugese kuthoeren
portugal water boy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any of those poland homosexual bithces
you're the one whos hatin polish filha da puta
i feel the love, didn't you hear figo and beckham give that speech against racism. let's stop it together :( AND UNITE !
go porto.
lol
ain't no need for that, I was so touched by the speech they gave that after that I united with your momma.so it's all good
lol @ the momma comment, u can suck deeez nuts.
portugal stinks anyway i dont care if im hating they are the dramaqueens of this WC i hope france will whip their asses cauz its ABOUT FUCKING TIME SOMEONE DOES
ok man no need to get angry.you've been sayin that since the round of 16 and you're always wrong.keep the hatin that just makes us stronger
and uve been saying that bullshit 'it makes us stronger' :) u wont succeed winnin this WC tho, just like last EC where greece pwned ur asses :-*
so much hatred in you god damn.it's not my fault you're coming from a fuckin bunch of gays no-skills for soccer country.and where's greece now ::).oh winning an EC is much better than a WC.start hatin again now at the end of the day you just one fuck bitter hater
ur acting like portugal already won this ugly WC oh and for ur information:
Poland
Participations: 1938, 1974, 1978, 1982, 1986, 2002, 2006 (7 x)
Best Result: 1974 & 1982 3rd Place
Netherlands:
Participations: 1934, 1938, 1974, 1978, 1990, 1994, 1998, 2006 (8 x)
Best Result: 1974 & 1978 2nd
vs
Portugal:
Participations : 1966, 1986, 2002, 2006 (4 x)
Best Result: 1966 3rd place
my countries >>>>>>>>>> ur faggitish country
and its gay to get a boner from watching men playing a sport, so stfu and go jerk off on that poster above ur bed from that fag ronaldo.
lol owned...
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well im glad portugal have lost, didnt do nething in final 3rd to show they looked like scoring.. Pauleta is possibly the laziest wc striker on show.. also ive hated portugals tattics all the way through this tournament, have constantly tried to con every ref they've come up against!
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also ive hated portugals tattics all the way through this tournament, have constantly tried to con every ref they've come up against!
The FIFA should give away awards for the most unsporty team (Portugal), the most unsporty coach (Scolari) and the most unsporty player (C. Ronaldo).
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also ive hated portugals tattics all the way through this tournament, have constantly tried to con every ref they've come up against!
The FIFA should give away awards for the most unsporty team (Portugal), the most unsporty coach (Scolari) and the most unsporty player (C. Ronaldo).
Yeah, the spot light should definatley be on FIFA to take some kind of action against them..
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praise the lord portugal didn't make the final :-*
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word.. thank god the cheating scum are out.. disgusting team
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don't hate on them tho, they deserved something from 2nite's game
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^^^^ the important is the win . period... if u talk about deserving , they didn't against England, didn't do shit 11 vs 10 in the OT 8)
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don't hate on them tho, they deserved something from 2nite's game
you think? i can agree with you that they did have large spells of possession.. but in the final 3rd of the pitch they never looked like scoring witch could be down to having Pauleta as you lone front man.. the dude is lazy and makes his runs far to late and is static for most of the game.. which makes it fairly easy to defend against.
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where are those 3 cocky ass kids that are up portugals ass
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where are those 3 cocky ass kids that are up portugals ass
id like to ether them again, so my karma can drop another 20 :laugh:
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i think they tried really hard to be honest, the possession rate musta been like 75-25 for the course of the 2nd half
i think their efforts warranted a draw
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don't hate on them tho, they deserved something from 2nite's game
you think? i can agree with you that they did have large spells of possession.. but in the final 3rd of the pitch they never looked like scoring witch could be down to having Pauleta as you lone front man.. the dude is lazy and makes his runs far to late and is static for most of the game.. which makes it fairly easy to defend against.
yep.. they hadn't huge opportunities in 2nd half, outside this free kick Barthez couldn't control. Anyway the best 2 defense are in the final, Barthez has to stop 9 shots the WHOLE Tournament (before this game).. Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Thuram, Sagnol you have the perfect defense right here 8)
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grosso hasn't really put a foot wrong either - and im not just blowin him coz he scored a good goal last nite
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Portugal don't convince me one bit, I think Germany will rip the piss out of them.
I'm glad it's this way, it's destiny, France-Italy.
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Portugal don't convince me one bit, I think Germany will rip the piss out of them.
I'm glad it's this way, it's destiny, France-Italy.
revenge for euro 2000 :)
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Portugal deserved the win
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Portugal deserved the win
that's a bit of a statement right there
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Portugal don't convince me one bit, I think Germany will rip the piss out of them.
I'm glad it's this way, it's destiny, France-Italy.
revenge for euro 2000 :)
.. and '98.
I think times come good, I'm sure Italy can do this, it's going to be one hell of a battle.
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Interesting stat was, all of France's backline won their domestic league last season, but STILL, I think there inferior to the Italian back-line.
There's gonna have to be some class going forward to unlock these backlines, (or a Barthez clanger ;)).
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Fact is that some our players were very afraid to be suspended for the final , it's obvious that Vieira and Sagnol weren't at their best , they tackle like once or twice the whole game.. Vieira can't be physical as usual so we basically lost the fight of the miedfield.. our center defense is very solid, so is Sagnol.. Abidal is shit though(in this game) so is Malouda (the whole tournament). Portugal was a very good team, talented players, cheaters too :grumpy:
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Portugal don't convince me one bit, I think Germany will rip the piss out of them.
I'm glad it's this way, it's destiny, France-Italy.
revenge for euro 2000 :)
.. and '98.
I think times come good, I'm sure Italy can do this, it's going to be one hell of a battle.
and 86 ;D
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Fact is that some our players were very afraid to be suspended for the final , it's obvious that Vieira and Sagnol weren't at their best , they tackle like once or twice the whole game.. Vieira can't be physical as usual so we basically lost the fight of the miedfield.. our center defense is very solid, so is Sagnol.. Abidal is shit though(in this game) so is Malouda (the whole tournament). Portugal was a very good team, talented players, cheaters too :grumpy:
I certainly think that's where Italy can really get to France is down your left-sided, both Malouda and Abidal doesn't convince me.
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Interesting stat was, all of France's backline won their domestic league last season, but STILL, I think there inferior to the Italian back-line.
There's gonna have to be some class going forward to unlock these backlines, (or a Barthez clanger ;)).
Gonna be an interesting final.. two very experienced teams, with monster players both side.. Don't worry about Barthez, he never makes a mistake in big games... Anyway it's gonna be a chaos where I live, there are A LOT of Italian people... this gonna end up in fights in the streets like in 98 and 00 , sad but unpreventable
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Fact is that some our players were very afraid to be suspended for the final , it's obvious that Vieira and Sagnol weren't at their best , they tackle like once or twice the whole game.. Vieira can't be physical as usual so we basically lost the fight of the miedfield.. our center defense is very solid, so is Sagnol.. Abidal is shit though(in this game) so is Malouda (the whole tournament). Portugal was a very good team, talented players, cheaters too :grumpy:
I certainly think that's where Italy can really get to France is down your left-sided, both Malouda and Abidal doesn't convince me.
yep Abidal is usually solid (without being great) but wack tonight... Malouda is very average in this tournament, though I gotta admit that in our system he has to take care of the defensvise job a lot..
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Abidal was awful 2nite, it surprises me Domenech didn't take him off.
He potentially could have lost them the game.
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Domenech is a strange coach but I admit he did an amazing job tactic wise in this tournament, Spain, Brazil n Portugal weren't able to develop their game though his subs are :-X (read Govou) but I don't know everything this guy predicted actually happened ;D
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i just think major decision (or lack of decisions) by him so far have been lucky.
it's not like he couldn't see abidal was having a nightmare out there.
ronaldo switched wings to come over and take advantage.
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^^^^ Living in France I can say no one can deny he did a great job of keeping the team down to earth after the wins... About your comments, I think he studied (or/with his staff) the game of the opposite teams very well but gotta agree with u , he's weak when it comes to decisions(choice of the players) DURING a game but we haven't trailed yet (only 10 min in the First half against Spain) so this weakness hasn't been exposed 8)
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without mentioning Pires, Giuly, Micoud, Anelka didn't make the roster for some reasons (including for banging Domenech wife ;D
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That's exactly it- why the hell isn't Giuly there?
How he can chose Wiltord and Govou over him is ridiculous.
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That's exactly it- why the hell isn't Giuly there?
How he can chose Wiltord and Govou over him is ridiculous.
as well as malouda, im sure ribery could just as easily play on the left
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^^^ Govou is here coz of Cisse injury but yep agree to the fullest
why Cisse over Anelka
why Micoud over useless players like Diarra
but you have to know there are some inner reasons ( Domenech wife wanted to fuck Giuly, Pires told the media how Domenech was a bad coach, Anelka wasn't chosen in order to shut Zidane influence down, Domenech n Zidane can't stand each other n Zidane has always liked Anelka as player... Micoud called Domenech a dumbass)
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That's exactly it- why the hell isn't Giuly there?
How he can chose Wiltord and Govou over him is ridiculous.
as well as malouda, im sure ribery could just as easily play on the left
yep ribery can play both sides
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lol did giuly bang the coach his wife ? LMAO
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(Micoud called Domenech a dumbass)
well I actually agree with "Diesel".
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Props to both the teams.
France? I'm ready.
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lol did giuly bang the coach his wife ? LMAO
Nah domenech wife wanted to date Giuly but he refused, Pires fucked her, before Domenech met her... she's well known to like suck players dicks ;D
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Don't worry about Barthez, he never makes a mistake in big games
he was damn lucky after he didn't catch that ball from ms. c. ronaldo
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Don't worry about Barthez, he never makes a mistake in big games
he was damn lucky after he didn't catch that ball from ms. c. ronaldo
yep I don't know, he repeats game after game he's scared by this kind of ball and doesn't want to control it :-\
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Don't worry about Barthez, he never makes a mistake in big games
he was damn lucky after he didn't catch that ball from ms. c. ronaldo
yep I don't know, he repeats game after game he's scared by this kind of ball and doesn't want to control it :-\
How do you rate Sebastien Frey?
To me, it's clear he's been the best French goalkeeper for many years.
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Don't worry about Barthez, he never makes a mistake in big games
he was damn lucky after he didn't catch that ball from ms. c. ronaldo
yep I don't know, he repeats game after game he's scared by this kind of ball and doesn't want to control it :-\
How do you rate Sebastien Frey?
To me, it's clear he's been the best French goalkeeper for many years.
No doubt. He's the 2nd best GK in Italy, no discussion. And we got the best GK's in the world, it's a fact.
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I can't and never will understand why he has been ignored.
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Don't worry about Barthez, he never makes a mistake in big games
he was damn lucky after he didn't catch that ball from ms. c. ronaldo
yep I don't know, he repeats game after game he's scared by this kind of ball and doesn't want to control it :-\
How do you rate Sebastien Frey?
To me, it's clear he's been the best French goalkeeper for many years.
No doubt. He's the 2nd best GK in Italy, no discussion. And we got the best GK's in the world, it's a fact.
I think someone from the Czech Republic might have something to say about that
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Don't worry about Barthez, he never makes a mistake in big games
he was damn lucky after he didn't catch that ball from ms. c. ronaldo
yep I don't know, he repeats game after game he's scared by this kind of ball and doesn't want to control it :-\
How do you rate Sebastien Frey?
To me, it's clear he's been the best French goalkeeper for many years.
he's a great goalkeeper no doubt. The pb is that he plays in Italy and as he's a little "unknown" he's less in the spotlight.. If he played for Juve or Milan u know ... hope u understood what I mean ... but 4 sure imo he has to be part of our future. About this tournament he should have been part of the roster (instead of Landreau) though Coupet was my number 1
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Thank God Portugal lost!
Should be a great finale
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Don't worry about Barthez, he never makes a mistake in big games
he was damn lucky after he didn't catch that ball from ms. c. ronaldo
yep I don't know, he repeats game after game he's scared by this kind of ball and doesn't want to control it :-\
How do you rate Sebastien Frey?
To me, it's clear he's been the best French goalkeeper for many years.
he's a great goalkeeper no doubt. The pb is that he plays in Italy and as he's a little "unknown" he's less in the spotlight.. If he played for Juve or Milan u know ... hope u understood what I mean ... but 4 sure imo he has to be part of our future
Yep, I appreciate he hasn't played for a top-club, but playing in Italy for many years, he deserved to be recognised.
I thought finally this year he could play in the Champions League, but that looks unlikely now.
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Don't worry about Barthez, he never makes a mistake in big games
he was damn lucky after he didn't catch that ball from ms. c. ronaldo
yep I don't know, he repeats game after game he's scared by this kind of ball and doesn't want to control it :-\
How do you rate Sebastien Frey?
To me, it's clear he's been the best French goalkeeper for many years.
No doubt. He's the 2nd best GK in Italy, no discussion. And we got the best GK's in the world, it's a fact.
I think someone from the Czech Republic might have something to say about that
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I said "the 2nd best GK in Italy"
Cech plays in England.
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bah, Van der Sar may still be the best goalie in the world
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1)Buffon
2)Van Der Sar
3)Cech
4)Toldo
5)Craig Gordon ;D
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^^ are u kidding me about van der sar...he used to be good five years ago
he did ok in the world cup but honestly he wouldnt even make it to the world's top 5
buffon is #1, the rest have some catching up to do
peace
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Buffon
your next goal'keeper.
It's been this way for a long time now.
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Buffon since Kahn fell the crap off after his mistake against Brazil in the 2002 Finals. He went from incredible prime to major decline within one game. Very very sad.