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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Detox Iz Not Active on July 05, 2006, 06:14:15 PM
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how the westcoast going to drop an album called Cail Iz Active and have the entire westcoast in the vid, and be a total flop. This album was shitted on by fukkin Cube's independent album after being out for like a month
sad day for westcoast, this proves besides Snoop no one in DPG holds ANY weight in hip hop
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Yeah this album was pathetic I cant believe some people actually felt this. anyways I dont even think snoop is shit anymore either, people keep talking about how he has been stepping it up but I havnt heard it, imo the last time Snoop was tite was Last Meal.
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Well, practically no one on a West Coast Rap fan board supported the CD, so what do you expect about it flopping? I'm not saying that everyone should go out and buy the damn thing just because its the Dogg Pound, a lot of people thought the album was trash, and they shouldn't buy it if thats the case. I really like the album, and I bought a copy. But if you've got even hard core west coast fans saying it sucks, its definitely not gonna sell unless you've got the mainstream appeal. They've got some mainstream appeal on this CD, but it was present in filthy ass songs like "Make That Pussy Pop" and "She Likes Dat," and they could never play those on the radio. That's just my 2 cents. Their only shot is to do the Diddy track as the next single, but does anyone even give a fuck about Puff Daddy anymore?
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I haven't heard these albums yet, DPG's nor Cube's.
Can anybody pm them to me?
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maybe next time DPG will think twice before having David Banner, Diddy and Paul Wall on the album
SMH @ Cali Iz Active with that guest list
and LOL @ a dpg album with ZERO Daz beats
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BTW, what is SMH? I feel like a dumbass asking that, but I've never seen it before.
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BTW, what is SMH? I feel like a dumbass asking that, but I've never seen it before.
Yeah Ive always seen it but I have no idea what it stands for.
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BTW, what is SMH? I feel like a dumbass asking that, but I've never seen it before.
shake my head
SMH @ 30,000 for the "long awaited" dogg pound album
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Tight, thanks for clearing it up
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I love the Cali Iz Active album. In fact I'm bumpin Kushin N Pushin right now. The internet fans speak 99% bullshit anyway.
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LOL.. Man, you guys are killin me with these threads. I'm sure this will be good for some debate though.
C'mon CIA supporters.. lay into em. Give em a reason to support Killa-Cali! ;D
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sad day for westcoast, this proves besides Snoop no one in DPG holds ANY weight in hip hop
I assume you mean "this proves besides Snoop no one in DPG holds ANY weight in West Coast hip hop". This was evident long before "Cali Iz Active" dropped.
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i agree dpg has been declining for years, but the bay area is active, even without mac dre, r.i.p.
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Cali Iz Not Active... That is very true. How do you expect to sell an album with a G-Funk first single and a video with nothing but West Coast cameos? LMAO @ Yo Yo, King Tee and MC Eiht's guest appearances as if ANYONE outside of the Los Angeles area will really appreciate that. The West isn't back yet... A song and video like that cannot and will not be accepted into the mainstream.
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the problem is you guys are over-analyzing this shit ridiculously
just fuckin relax, if you thought this was gonna be "Dogg Food 2" you're an idiot and you got what you deserve
I admit it coulda been better but I HONESTLY like the cd, if I like 10 of 16 tracks then that's pretty good
Kurupt is the low point obviously, and LOL at you fools "Daz is wack, Daz fell off"
dude has changed nothing, if you liked Daz before what is there not to like now?
did it ever occur that he's not on a mission to be top lyricist in the game?
people knockin Battlecat and shit, I found nothin wrong with his usual formula
I guarantee if he switched shit up and went crazy all u would say "where's that classic Battlecat sound? WTF?!"
did it ever occur to you guys that THEY KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BLOW UP
you motherfuckers kill me, THEY'RE DOING IT FOR MONEY
they're not sitting around saying "where's the promotion?" cuz they knew they wouldn't get any to begin with
30,000 copies, I'm sure they all got some legit cash from those "shitty" sales
like I said, the album could be better but there's nothing wrong with it
quit fuckin bitching and leave it alone if it bothers you so much
probably won't, but if "Detox" sucks I'm afraid you all will commit suicide
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^^Good point.
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people knockin Battlecat and shit, I found nothin wrong with his usual formula
This is the problem. People find nothing wrong with dudes sticking the same ass shit they were doing 6-7 years ago. This is why the West can never progress?
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well then why are people complaining that there weren't enough "West Coast artists" on it?
they had Paul Wall, Diddy, David Banner.... that's progression for a DPG album, right?
it's just everyone contradicts themselves, they don't know what the fuck they want
so what I'm getting is people want the artist to do music he doesn't wanna do, that's what I'm getting
people are being ridiculous, it doesn't take a genius to realize these guys made this fuckin album FOR THE WEST COAST
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well then why are people complaining that there weren't enough "West Coast artists" on it?
they had Paul Wall, Diddy, David Banner.... that's progression for a DPG album, right?
it's just everyone contradicts themselves, they don't know what the fuck they want
so what I'm getting is people want the artist to do music he doesn't wanna do, that's what I'm getting
people are being ridiculous, it doesn't take a genius to realize these guys made this fuckin album FOR THE WEST COAST
Preach!
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I always like the pound but the last couple of years im just tired of hearing kurupt say bitcj every2 seconds or making up rhymes like sico samatic automatci static dick wit the clip.
As for daz that snippet is the tightest stuff ive heard in a long time. I wanna support it personaly there not giving any reason too...im a huge fan been so disapointed lately i dint even bother checking cia.
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well then why are people complaining that there weren't enough "West Coast artists" on it?
they had Paul Wall, Diddy, David Banner.... that's progression for a DPG album, right?
it's just everyone contradicts themselves, they don't know what the fuck they want
so what I'm getting is people want the artist to do music he doesn't wanna do, that's what I'm getting
people are being ridiculous, it doesn't take a genius to realize these guys made this fuckin album FOR THE WEST COAST
Daz and Kurupt wanted to make this album... their "fans" didn't want them to make it. That's the problem. Fans like you are happy with the same ol' same, they can't expand. They made this album for exposure.. If they would've made it for the West (like the other couple albums they've dropped) they wouldn't have put some big features on this.
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I always like the pound but the last couple of years im just tired of hearing kurupt say bitcj every2 seconds or making up rhymes like sico samatic automatci static dick wit the clip.
As for daz that snippet is the tightest stuff ive heard in a long time. I wanna support it personaly there not giving any reason too...im a huge fan been so disapointed lately i dint even bother checking cia.
Its definitely worth a check.
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P. Diddy is HUGE! That names not big enough?
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P. Diddy is HUGE! That names not big enough?
Huh? Who was that directed towards?
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P. Diddy is HUGE! That names not big enough?
Huh? Who was that directed towards?
Not directed towards anyone SGV. Just adding to the conversation. But really.. CIA isnt half as bad as folks are makin it out to be. IMO.
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like I said, the album could be better but there's nothing wrong with it
quit fuckin bitching and leave it alone if it bothers you so much
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That's the problem. Fans like you are happy with the same ol' same,
8) :P
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man dpg flopped....and sgv pointed out exactly why
i agree with westcoast suprisingly. if an album can give me 10 bangers out of 16 songs im good
god, kurupt is shit
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C.I.A. Flopped because the Lyrics, and BEAT was WACK WACK WAAAACCCCKKKKK :D :D :D :D :D
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Yeah, I dont think Snoop is doing another single. I don't see why not, it is HIS Dogg Pound album. The different sound may have worked for Snoop but not DPG. The album was all over the place. Even with that said, I still liked over half of the album, but it is no where close to what they could put out there. Alot of the bonus tracks should have been on the album. At least Cube is still doing his thing.
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"Dogg Food" > "Dillinger & Young Gotti" > "Dillinger & Young Gotti 2" > "Cali Iz Active"
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the problem is you guys are over-analyzing this shit ridiculously
just fuckin relax, if you thought this was gonna be "Dogg Food 2" you're an idiot and you got what you deserve
I admit it coulda been better but I HONESTLY like the cd, if I like 10 of 16 tracks then that's pretty good
Kurupt is the low point obviously, and LOL at you fools "Daz is wack, Daz fell off"
dude has changed nothing, if you liked Daz before what is there not to like now?
did it ever occur that he's not on a mission to be top lyricist in the game?
people knockin Battlecat and shit, I found nothin wrong with his usual formula
I guarantee if he switched shit up and went crazy all u would say "where's that classic Battlecat sound? WTF?!"
did it ever occur to you guys that THEY KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BLOW UP
you motherfuckers kill me, THEY'RE DOING IT FOR MONEY
they're not sitting around saying "where's the promotion?" cuz they knew they wouldn't get any to begin with
30,000 copies, I'm sure they all got some legit cash from those "shitty" sales
like I said, the album could be better but there's nothing wrong with it
quit fuckin bitching and leave it alone if it bothers you so much
probably won't, but if "Detox" sucks I'm afraid you all will commit suicide
couldnt hav put it better myself, you really hav hit the nail in the head
ther was nufin wrong with the battlecat beats
ther is one thing ther should maybe hav been more artists feat from cali but i still like the banner and paul wall tracks. out of the 16 tracks i liked about 13 or 14 of them . maybe not classics but i still enjoyed listening to them which some of yous need to start doing , enjoying the music instead of trying to find a classic out of them
and finnaly daz - he hasnt fell off, he never has switched in his producing or rapping(he never was a lyricist) but tht laid back flow is returning which is still not good enough for sum of you
daz imho is one of the most consistant producers not just in the west but in hip hop. there is not a badly produced song daz has made. they are maybe not all bangin or classic but every one is at least cool to listen to. i guarentee no1 can name a bad production by daz?
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I have to say, this album isnt close to what I expected. There's more than one problem with this album. I really didnt expect Kurupt was gonna be THAT bad. The features and the beats should be better on there I aint gonna lie. On the positive side, Ive really been getting into all of Daz' stuff as of late. His flow is sick and he sounds pretty dope. Snoop had a couple nice verses on there. But that isnt enough to save this album.
I guess you're right, Cali,iz NOT active. But it could me something more than sales guys. The fact that this album dropped with the video that came out, it could be just the start of the new westcoast movement. At least they are trying to show theres a push on the west and trying to get new material and new artists to come out now. At the end of the day, I really think "Cali Iz Active" was NOT about sales, but more about the west. Sad thing is, they kinda let people down with the record. And I dont see there being another video released. If they had moved closer to 100.000 than yea I could see another single, but I just dont see it in the future.
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Kurupt and Daz need to retire. Im still looking forward to So So Gangsta though, I have faith in JD and Daz.
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the problem with this album is that, everything about it is average, and nobody was at his best, and that sucks, and also what got me disapointed is that they were saying that they were back to their A game and shit, but lyrically they are still wack, the topics of the songs are all the same and lame, atleast if u wanna make a come back, bring sumthin worth listening, Look at Gangstarr, more than a decade in the game, and their last come back was really good, something that the Hiphop crowd will remember...why cant they do the same thing and bring sumthin that can make history?
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and nobody wants to put money on Daz & Kurupt anyway...Im sure that the only reason that JD will release Daz album, is because of the contract. but im sure that he realized that Daz is not marketable , and a shit talker
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Im sure that the only reason that JD will release Daz album, is because of the contract.
OMG, c'mon guys. Comment like this are just ridiculous. ::)
The 2 most powerful exec's in the game right now are Jay Z and JD so why would either of them have to do anything? JD is going to release Daz's because he believes in the project and plans on putting major resources behind it to make it a success. This should be great news to WC fans on a WC board. One of the hottest execs in the game right now is behind a major Doggpound release, that should be exciting but instead there's so much hate. (Plus as fans, we've been blessed with a gang of leaked So So Gangsta tracks. Gotta love that.)
LET THE ALBUM DROP FOR CRYIN OUT LOUD, GIVE IT A CHANCE. We can all over analyze and pick it apart when the album drops if thats what you choose to do. But to hate on it before its even released is just silly. Other then Snoop and Game, Daz is the only cat out the west who stands a chance at main stream success so lets be positive and see what happens. Sh%t on CIA all you want, but I'll bet that So So Gangsta succeeds well beyond CIA or Kurupts Doggystyle solo.
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When CIA first dropped I never liked it much apart from 2/3 songs.
YES its not as good as it should have been, YES the features aren't the best and some songs are just straight up rubbish, but ive bumped it abit and theres at least 7-8 good tracks-- Sittin on 23z, Throwin up tha C, Cali Is Active, Face 2 Face, Slow Your Roll - overall while not up to great comeback status its still not as bad as its made out to be.
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Im sure that the only reason that JD will release Daz album, is because of the contract.
OMG, c'mon guys. Comment like this are just ridiculous. ::)
The 2 most powerful exec's in the game right now are Jay Z and JD so why would either of them have to do anything? JD is going to release Daz's because he believes in the project and plans on putting major resources behind it to make it a success. This should be great news to WC fans on a WC board. One of the hottest execs in the game right now is behind a major Doggpound release, that should be exciting but instead there's so much hate. (Plus as fans, we've been blessed with a gang of leaked So So Gangsta tracks. Gotta love that.)
LET THE ALBUM DROP FOR CRYIN OUT LOUD, GIVE IT A CHANCE. We can all over analyze and pick it apart when the album drops if thats what you choose to do. But to hate on it before its even released is just silly. Other then Snoop and Game, Daz is the only cat out the west who stands a chance at main stream success so lets be positive and see what happens. Sh%t on CIA all you want, but I'll bet that So So Gangsta succeeds well beyond CIA or Kurupts Doggystyle solo.
Co-sign to that. I do think that So So Gangsta is gonna be sick. You almost forget it is still coming out with everyone ripping SDDS & CIA apart. We got E-40 doin his thing, Cube dropping heat, and we still have half the year to go with Game, Snoop and whoever else that will drop so it hasn't been a bad year for Cali.
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^Two artists doing well is hardly a Great year for the West. Look at the South... They have tons of artists doing well. It's a GREAT year for them. We have Two out of the millions of artists on the West doing well, that is NOT good. People should be going platinum in California alone, but when the music's wack, nobody wants to support it. So So Gangsta should be the better album out of any of the DPG group or solo albums dropping soley thanks to Jermaine Dupri. He's not gonna let Daz record a bunch on non-sensical bullshit and release it.
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The south is on top right now. It's not like you have multi-platinum artists on the east, midwest or the west for that matter. If you are from the south, you are selling right now. It is a sign of the times. South is flooding the market, and you can't tell me it is soooo much better than what other regions are putting out. Comparing the west to what the south is doing it's not even close. Face it, if it is not either put out or backed by Dre, you gonna have a hard time selling out here. Other than Game and Snoop? Who is putting up numbers like that? You cant tell me the only reason we aint selling is because the music is wack. Gotta be more to it than that.
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waits for the online petition that c.i.a gets redone with daz, dj pooh and dr. dre production..
suprise one hasnt been made like the 213 one that was floatin around..for warren g production..
:P
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this was a BIG loss for the west
it's not going to ever change; only Snoop, Game, and Dre will ever sell
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So So Gangsta will be good.
I have a feelin Daz has something to prove with this record.
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instead of complainin..on a messageboard..
get up off yalls rumps and go buy as many copies as yall can...
cali alone can help them cats go achieve what yall want..
the album went platinum on yousendit,rapidshare,megaupload and sendspace.....
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The south at least goes out in droves and supports their artists. Houston artists were going damn near gold in Houston. Fan support. Half our fans do not even respect what Cube has done. They say shit like, "Oh dog, Cube shit is wack. I got through the 1st 2-3 songs and that shit is wack." I can't wait when Glasses Malone comes out. He is really the first artist from the new west with a major deal not associated with Dre. Now I am already knowing if this album does not even go gold, here come the haters again. We have got to be the most fickle fans. We will diss a album and come back a year later and say it was not that bad. CIA is not a great album, but hell what west coast artists are fans rushing to the stores to support?
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I guess you're right, Cali,iz NOT active. But it could me something more than sales guys. The fact that this album dropped with the video that came out, it could be just the start of the new westcoast movement. At least they are trying to show theres a push on the west and trying to get new material and new artists to come out now. At the end of the day, I really think "Cali Iz Active" was NOT about sales, but more about the west.
How are they trying to get new artists out? Daz, Kurupt, and Snoop, have all been in the game for 10+ years. The only people getting any respect in the West are Dre, Snoop Dogg, Game, and maybe Xzibit. All of those artisrs except for Game have been in the hip hop Game for at least 10 years. The only reason The Game is doing so well is because he has (had?) Dre's back. Who else can put out records and get gaurnteed promo for it?
The South is on top right now not becuase they are more marketable (which they are right now) or because they are making better music. They are on top because they are getting support from their people. There fans aren't so damn hyporcritcal about what they want out of there music. And it isn't about lowering standards either, it's just that they aren't so uptight about there hometown artists. There are also many other factors, but that is the backbone of it.
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you know why d-nice..
some of cali's fan base are stuck in whatever yr they fell in love with say a snoop or cube..it seem like if it aint soundin like doggystyle or death certificate its wack..
seem like they are afraid to grow with the artist...
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^ so true. I think we were spoiled with all of the dope albums that came out in the 90's. Some people do not understand why that cannot be rekindled. Back then the Bay and LA were doing their thing and everybody was eating. But now there is all this bay vs la. I don't know when all of a sudden people started hating on E-40. 40 water! I am all for the new west getting their shine also, but I think we are going to have to accept and embrace the new artists coming up and trust that they do not need the og artists to be successfull.
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the beats that daz made thoughout his career never been Scattered...meaning it's unstable...
his old beats were very smooth...very str8 forward...
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in my opinion, almost every artist has declined over the years
it's not as easy as you think to keep banging out hits, let alone ones that every person feels
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in my opinion, almost every artist has declined over the years
it's not as easy as you think to keep banging out hits, let alone ones that every person feels
outkast stay droppin DOPE album after album
so there is no excuse for DPG
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outkast stay droppin DOPE album after album
so there is no excuse for DPG
I wouldnt go that far.....
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in my opinion, almost every artist has declined over the years
it's not as easy as you think to keep banging out hits, let alone ones that every person feels
outkast stay droppin DOPE album after album
so there is no excuse for DPG
i take it you never heard speakerboxxx/love below
and btw, ur the fakest muhfucka on this board.
change ur name. ur not from long beach
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in my opinion, almost every artist has declined over the years
it's not as easy as you think to keep banging out hits, let alone ones that every person feels
outkast stay droppin DOPE album after album
so there is no excuse for DPG
i take it you never heard speakerboxxx/love below
and btw, ur the fakest muhfucka on this board.
change ur name. ur not from long beach
I heard spearkerboxxx which is nice, and the Love Below I'm not feelin
speakerboxxx takes multiple shits on Cali Iz Acitve
calling me fake? you tryin to start e-beef you fuckin faggot? take your online beefs to someone who cares
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Honestly, Id rather listen to Cali Iz Active over Speakerboxx or the Love Below.....I wasnt feelin either of those album AT ALL....
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Honestly, Id rather listen to Cali Iz Active over Speakerboxx or the Love Below.....I wasnt feelin either of those album AT ALL....
this isn't about Speakerboxx, it's about Outkast not falling off
you hear that new single by Outkast? shit is fire, yet DPG is droppin hot garbage
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in my opinion, almost every artist has declined over the years
it's not as easy as you think to keep banging out hits, let alone ones that every person feels
outkast stay droppin DOPE album after album
so there is no excuse for DPG
i take it you never heard speakerboxxx/love below
and btw, ur the fakest muhfucka on this board.
change ur name. ur not from long beach
I heard spearkerboxxx which is nice, and the Love Below I'm not feelin
speakerboxxx takes multiple shits on Cali Iz Acitve
calling me fake? you tryin to start e-beef you fuckin faggot? take your online beefs to someone who cares
im not trying to start "e-beefs" im just saying u need to change ur name.
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Honestly, Id rather listen to Cali Iz Active over Speakerboxx or the Love Below.....I wasnt feelin either of those album AT ALL....
this isn't about Speakerboxx, it's about Outkast not falling off
you hear that new single by Outkast? shit is fire, yet DPG is droppin hot garbage
the single "Cali Iz Active">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>new Outkast single
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Honestly, Id rather listen to Cali Iz Active over Speakerboxx or the Love Below.....I wasnt feelin either of those album AT ALL....
this isn't about Speakerboxx, it's about Outkast not falling off
you hear that new single by Outkast? shit is fire, yet DPG is droppin hot garbage
the single "Cali Iz Active">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>new Outkast single
I love the track "Cali Iz Active" but 1 song can't save the album
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Honestly, Id rather listen to Cali Iz Active over Speakerboxx or the Love Below.....I wasnt feelin either of those album AT ALL....
this isn't about Speakerboxx, it's about Outkast not falling off
you hear that new single by Outkast? shit is fire, yet DPG is droppin hot garbage
the single "Cali Iz Active">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>new Outkast single
I love the track "Cali Iz Active" but 1 song can't save the album
whats your point?
have you heard the new outkast album?
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Honestly, Id rather listen to Cali Iz Active over Speakerboxx or the Love Below.....I wasnt feelin either of those album AT ALL....
this isn't about Speakerboxx, it's about Outkast not falling off
you hear that new single by Outkast? shit is fire, yet DPG is droppin hot garbage
the single "Cali Iz Active">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>new Outkast single
I love the track "Cali Iz Active" but 1 song can't save the album
whats your point?
have you heard the new outkast album?
well, if you considering that Outkast has never dropped a wack album, I think its safe to say they won't suddenly just suck ::)
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Honestly, Id rather listen to Cali Iz Active over Speakerboxx or the Love Below.....I wasnt feelin either of those album AT ALL....
this isn't about Speakerboxx, it's about Outkast not falling off
you hear that new single by Outkast? shit is fire, yet DPG is droppin hot garbage
the single "Cali Iz Active">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>new Outkast single
Agreed. But thats probably just my personal taste though. I really liked their first 2 albums ALOT. That Spaceage Alien stuff was hella tight. From there, they just got kinda weird. I didnt feel that Love Below \ Speakerboxxx album either.. although I do recognize the quality in that album for sure. Just wasnt my taste I guess.
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well, if you considering that Outkast has never dropped a wack album, I think its safe to say they won't suddenly just suck ::)
thats your opinion....
I didnt really like the last 2 albums from Outkast.....
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in my opinion, almost every artist has declined over the years
it's not as easy as you think to keep banging out hits, let alone ones that every person feels
outkast stay droppin DOPE album after album
so there is no excuse for DPG
Cali will never be active for you unfortunately, ur just mad ur holed up in a cave somewhere halfway across the world from here
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The point is, people hate on CIA because they think features like Paul Wall and so on mustn't be on a DPG-album and that the sound is not full of good old g-funk taste, even the same with 213. They say Kurupt fell off, Daz mado no beats and blah blah... I mean, look at the situation closely, there's no interesting in the old g-funk sound by Snoop, Daz & Kurupt, because shit had its era. You cannot sample funkadelic songs for 15 years without sounding boring. The other point is, that they TRY to sell something beyond cali, but they never will with g-funk sounds from doggystyle or something. Then theres no Dre, and I think Dre gives a fuck on this shit, he's doing his thing rigth now on the east with g-unit, busta etc. But I think in this time, there's no more need for Dre, because look at his beats from the last 5 years, there's no g-funk, the beats he is dropping aren't any remarkable as beats Diddy, Swizz Beatz, Storch or Kanye West do now fpr the mainstream. Cali Iz Active is not a classic, but in your eyes people from DPGC never can do a classic anymore because the g-funk era is dead. it passed over and it's good because music has to change a bit. I don't mean that g-funk is dead, because look at the album, look what you get from the "fallen-off" DPG. You got beats by Soopafly, imo they all bang, you got Battlecat, imo he's doing not his best, but I never heard a Battlecat beat that really sucked, so you can't tell battlecat beats rubbish. Then look at the features: Paul Wall --> straight rubbish, but this only to make some attention in the south, it's ok, it's just 1 mutherfucking song. Now look at David Banner, this beat BANGS! Sure, it's mainstream but this beat bang. Is it really bad when Daz & Kurupt do some mainstream on their album? When shit ain't sellin a bit, artists cannot drop anything. then look at the diddy-track the bass is off the hook and I mean Diddy and Snoop do a really good job at the end, especially Snoop. So 2 of the 3 "rubbish features" bangin. Look at the others, you got Nate Dogg 2 times, RBX, Lady Of Rage, Cube what the fuck do you expext? It's good to see that there's Lady of Rage drops a verse over a tight soopafly beat! The reason why Daz wasn't producing he explained in his phone interview that Nima has done with him. So I think the album title represents this project, you got new sounds and some of them old and you got a mix-up of westcoast and south/east stuff so that's what it's all about. I rather hear a mainstream-orientated songs done by Kurupt and Daz than by 50 Cent. Daz & Kurupt are flow much better than 50 even if Kurupt is not on 100 % but on CIA he sond way better than on against the grain and SDDS is hot as hell. I mean it's a good album for the summer 2006!
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in my opinion, almost every artist has declined over the years
it's not as easy as you think to keep banging out hits, let alone ones that every person feels
outkast stay droppin DOPE album after album
so there is no excuse for DPG
Cali will never be active for you unfortunately, ur just mad ur holed up in a cave somewhere halfway across the world from here
the fuck? shouldn't you be watching your soccer or whatever you do in over in europe?
LMAO @ being a Dipset fan, they must be big over there in england ::)
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in my opinion, almost every artist has declined over the years
it's not as easy as you think to keep banging out hits, let alone ones that every person feels
outkast stay droppin DOPE album after album
so there is no excuse for DPG
Cali will never be active for you unfortunately, ur just mad ur holed up in a cave somewhere halfway across the world from here
the fuck? shouldn't you be watching your soccer or whatever you do in over in europe?
LMAO @ being a Dipset fan, they must be big over there in england ::)
WTF are you talking about...Banana Boy is from Cali...
Oh, and "The Hard Way" > "Cali Iz Active"...
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Oh, and "The Hard Way" > "Cali Iz Active"...
agreed
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in my opinion, almost every artist has declined over the years
it's not as easy as you think to keep banging out hits, let alone ones that every person feels
outkast stay droppin DOPE album after album
so there is no excuse for DPG
Cali will never be active for you unfortunately, ur just mad ur holed up in a cave somewhere halfway across the world from here
the fuck? shouldn't you be watching your soccer or whatever you do in over in europe?
LMAO @ being a Dipset fan, they must be big over there in england ::)
WTF are you talking about...Banana Boy is from Cali...
Oh, and "The Hard Way" > "Cali Iz Active"...
sad to say, but it's easily better then Cali iz Active
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waits for the online petition that c.i.a gets redone with daz, dj pooh and dr. dre production..
suprise one hasnt been made like the 213 one that was floatin around..for warren g production..
:P
WOW WHOSE THAT???? :o IN YOUR SIG? SHES INCREDIBLE!
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yeah didnt west coast rap die in vegas like 10 years ago
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[u]Yeah this album was pathetic I cant believe some people actually felt this[/u]. anyways I dont even think snoop is shit anymore either, people keep talking about how he has been stepping it up but I havnt heard it, imo the last time Snoop was tite was Last Meal.
And some people dont understand how you can feel the DIPSET. We all have our Flavor that we like Spice.....
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The point is, people hate on CIA because they think features like Paul Wall and so on mustn't be on a DPG-album and that the sound is not full of good old g-funk taste, even the same with 213. They say Kurupt fell off, Daz mado no beats and blah blah... I mean, look at the situation closely, there's no interesting in the old g-funk sound by Snoop, Daz & Kurupt, because shit had its era. You cannot sample funkadelic songs for 15 years without sounding boring. The other point is, that they TRY to sell something beyond cali, but they never will with g-funk sounds from doggystyle or something. Then theres no Dre, and I think Dre gives a fuck on this shit, he's doing his thing rigth now on the east with g-unit, busta etc. But I think in this time, there's no more need for Dre, because look at his beats from the last 5 years, there's no g-funk, the beats he is dropping aren't any remarkable as beats Diddy, Swizz Beatz, Storch or Kanye West do now fpr the mainstream. Cali Iz Active is not a classic, but in your eyes people from DPGC never can do a classic anymore because the g-funk era is dead. it passed over and it's good because music has to change a bit. I don't mean that g-funk is dead, because look at the album, look what you get from the "fallen-off" DPG. You got beats by Soopafly, imo they all bang, you got Battlecat, imo he's doing not his best, but I never heard a Battlecat beat that really sucked, so you can't tell battlecat beats rubbish. Then look at the features: Paul Wall --> straight rubbish, but this only to make some attention in the south, it's ok, it's just 1 mutherfucking song. Now look at David Banner, this beat BANGS! Sure, it's mainstream but this beat bang. Is it really bad when Daz & Kurupt do some mainstream on their album? When shit ain't sellin a bit, artists cannot drop anything. then look at the diddy-track the bass is off the hook and I mean Diddy and Snoop do a really good job at the end, especially Snoop. So 2 of the 3 "rubbish features" bangin. Look at the others, you got Nate Dogg 2 times, RBX, Lady Of Rage, Cube what the fuck do you expext? It's good to see that there's Lady of Rage drops a verse over a tight soopafly beat! The reason why Daz wasn't producing he explained in his phone interview that Nima has done with him. So I think the album title represents this project, you got new sounds and some of them old and you got a mix-up of westcoast and south/east stuff so that's what it's all about. I rather hear a mainstream-orientated songs done by Kurupt and Daz than by 50 Cent. Daz & Kurupt are flow much better than 50 even if Kurupt is not on 100 % but on CIA he sond way better than on against the grain and SDDS is hot as hell. I mean it's a good album for the summer 2006!
man you are going to get even more hate and less karma for saying that. ;D Bottom line people if ya like it, bump it, if ya don't leave it alone. Can we talk about something else on the west coast?
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The point is, people hate on CIA because they think features like Paul Wall and so on mustn't be on a DPG-album and that the sound is not full of good old g-funk taste, even the same with 213. They say Kurupt fell off, Daz mado no beats and blah blah... I mean, look at the situation closely, there's no interesting in the old g-funk sound by Snoop, Daz & Kurupt, because shit had its era. You cannot sample funkadelic songs for 15 years without sounding boring. The other point is, that they TRY to sell something beyond cali, but they never will with g-funk sounds from doggystyle or something. Then theres no Dre, and I think Dre gives a fuck on this shit, he's doing his thing rigth now on the east with g-unit, busta etc. But I think in this time, there's no more need for Dre, because look at his beats from the last 5 years, there's no g-funk, the beats he is dropping aren't any remarkable as beats Diddy, Swizz Beatz, Storch or Kanye West do now fpr the mainstream. Cali Iz Active is not a classic, but in your eyes people from DPGC never can do a classic anymore because the g-funk era is dead. it passed over and it's good because music has to change a bit. I don't mean that g-funk is dead, because look at the album, look what you get from the "fallen-off" DPG. You got beats by Soopafly, imo they all bang, you got Battlecat, imo he's doing not his best, but I never heard a Battlecat beat that really sucked, so you can't tell battlecat beats rubbish. Then look at the features: Paul Wall --> straight rubbish, but this only to make some attention in the south, it's ok, it's just 1 mutherfucking song. Now look at David Banner, this beat BANGS! Sure, it's mainstream but this beat bang. Is it really bad when Daz & Kurupt do some mainstream on their album? When shit ain't sellin a bit, artists cannot drop anything. then look at the diddy-track the bass is off the hook and I mean Diddy and Snoop do a really good job at the end, especially Snoop. So 2 of the 3 "rubbish features" bangin. Look at the others, you got Nate Dogg 2 times, RBX, Lady Of Rage, Cube what the fuck do you expext? It's good to see that there's Lady of Rage drops a verse over a tight soopafly beat! The reason why Daz wasn't producing he explained in his phone interview that Nima has done with him. So I think the album title represents this project, you got new sounds and some of them old and you got a mix-up of westcoast and south/east stuff so that's what it's all about. I rather hear a mainstream-orientated songs done by Kurupt and Daz than by 50 Cent. Daz & Kurupt are flow much better than 50 even if Kurupt is not on 100 % but on CIA he sond way better than on against the grain and SDDS is hot as hell. I mean it's a good album for the summer 2006!
man you are going to get even more hate and less karma for saying that. ;D Bottom line people if ya like it, bump it, if ya don't leave it alone. Can we talk about something else on the west coast?
I give a fuck on karma, that's my opinion. I think people need something to talk bad about and I think Cali iz Active is the wrong thing for that.
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at first i was a lil disapointed. but i think its a dope album... cop dat shit
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The members on this forum are just a bunch of pretenders..........all these muthafuckas were shouting Cali Iz Active then the video comes out nobody supports it, the album comes out and nobody supports it but expect it to do big numbers.
I doubt anyone on here has bought the album............i'm all the way in the Caribbean and i'm sure i'll get it before 90% of you so called West Coast fans.
I had to get mine ordered from the music store here along witt I Luv Cali & Laugh Now, Cry Later. I'm just patiently waiting on them to arrive.
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The members on this forum are just a bunch of pretenders..........all these muthafuckas were shouting Cali Iz Active then the video comes out nobody supports it, the album comes out and nobody supports it but expect it to do big numbers.
I doubt anyone on here has bought the album............i'm all the way in the Caribbean and i'm sure i'll get it before 90% of you so called West Coast fans.
I had to get mine ordered from the music store here along witt I Luv Cali & Laugh Now, Cry Later. I'm just patiently waiting on them to arrive.
Agreed. How can you be surprised that an album flops when you yourself, a member of the core, target audience, doesn't buy the album? I'll admit that I didn't buy the album. I will eventually get it when I can find it cheaper in a used bin section or something. The album isn't worth $15. In my case, the average quality of the album prevented me from buying the album. I am a member of the Doggpound's target audience, and I did not buy the album due to average musical quality. If the music would've been better, they would have sold more than 30,000 copies, because their core audience such as myself would have supported it more.
I bet most westcoast rappers think they can just spit some ole' lazy gangsta shit and us core fans of ganster music will support that music regardless of the quality, but times have changed. I'm in my mid-20s, as are most of the fans who came of age during the original Deathrow era. Westcoast artists have got to bring more than just "fucc a bitch" to get me to actually BUY an album nowadays. I'm too mature for that. At the same time, today's 15 year olds by and large aren't interested in "fucc a bitch" music either (at least not from OGs like the Doggpound, I don't think).
All in all, the Doggpound add features like Paul Wall, David Banner, Puffy, etc. thinking it will add sales from other regions, in addition to the sales from the westcoast core audience, which they take for granted...and this assumption that we westcoast fans will buy the album regardless of quality just is not true anymore, partly because we have matured now, and are looking for something with at least some modicum of effort put into the music...rather than just the same ole' simplistic "I hit switches and fucc bitches" rhymes.
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The members on this forum are just a bunch of pretenders..........all these muthafuckas were shouting Cali Iz Active then the video comes out nobody supports it, the album comes out and nobody supports it but expect it to do big numbers.
I doubt anyone on here has bought the album............i'm all the way in the Caribbean and i'm sure i'll get it before 90% of you so called West Coast fans.
I had to get mine ordered from the music store here along witt I Luv Cali & Laugh Now, Cry Later. I'm just patiently waiting on them to arrive.
Agreed. How can you be surprised that an album flops when you yourself, a member of the core, target audience, doesn't buy the album? I'll admit that I didn't buy the album. I will eventually get it when I can find it cheaper in a used bin section or something. The album isn't worth $15. In my case, the average quality of the album prevented me from buying the album. I am a member of the Doggpound's target audience, and I did not buy the album due to average musical quality. If the music would've been better, they would have sold more than 30,000 copies, because their core audience such as myself would have supported it more.
I bet most westcoast rappers think they can just spit some ole' lazy gangsta shit and us core fans of ganster music will support that music regardless of the quality, but times have changed. I'm in my mid-20s, as are most of the fans who came of age during the original Deathrow era. Westcoast artists have got to bring more than just "fucc a bitch" to get me to actually BUY an album nowadays. I'm too mature for that. At the same time, today's 15 year olds by and large aren't interested in "fucc a bitch" music either (at least not from OGs like the Doggpound, I don't think).
All in all, the Doggpound add features like Paul Wall, David Banner, Puffy, etc. thinking it will add sales from other regions, in addition to the sales from the westcoast core audience, which they take for granted...and this assumption that we westcoast fans will buy the album regardless of quality just is not true anymore, partly because we have matured now, and are looking for something with at least some modicum of effort put into the music...rather than just the same ole' simplistic "I hit switches and fucc bitches" rhymes.
Well Put.
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The members on this forum are just a bunch of pretenders..........all these muthafuckas were shouting Cali Iz Active then the video comes out nobody supports it, the album comes out and nobody supports it but expect it to do big numbers.
I doubt anyone on here has bought the album............i'm all the way in the Caribbean and i'm sure i'll get it before 90% of you so called West Coast fans.
I had to get mine ordered from the music store here along witt I Luv Cali & Laugh Now, Cry Later. I'm just patiently waiting on them to arrive.
Agreed. How can you be surprised that an album flops when you yourself, a member of the core, target audience, doesn't buy the album? I'll admit that I didn't buy the album. I will eventually get it when I can find it cheaper in a used bin section or something. The album isn't worth $15. In my case, the average quality of the album prevented me from buying the album. I am a member of the Doggpound's target audience, and I did not buy the album due to average musical quality. If the music would've been better, they would have sold more than 30,000 copies, because their core audience such as myself would have supported it more.
I bet most westcoast rappers think they can just spit some ole' lazy gangsta shit and us core fans of ganster music will support that music regardless of the quality, but times have changed. I'm in my mid-20s, as are most of the fans who came of age during the original Deathrow era. Westcoast artists have got to bring more than just "fucc a bitch" to get me to actually BUY an album nowadays. I'm too mature for that. At the same time, today's 15 year olds by and large aren't interested in "fucc a bitch" music either (at least not from OGs like the Doggpound, I don't think).
All in all, the Doggpound add features like Paul Wall, David Banner, Puffy, etc. thinking it will add sales from other regions, in addition to the sales from the westcoast core audience, which they take for granted...and this assumption that we westcoast fans will buy the album regardless of quality just is not true anymore, partly because we have matured now, and are looking for something with at least some modicum of effort put into the music...rather than just the same ole' simplistic "I hit switches and fucc bitches" rhymes.
yeah..word...i agree with contents...
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lol True Stories...Dipset is more Active than Cali :laugh:
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The members on this forum are just a bunch of pretenders..........all these muthafuckas were shouting Cali Iz Active then the video comes out nobody supports it, the album comes out and nobody supports it but expect it to do big numbers.
I doubt anyone on here has bought the album............i'm all the way in the Caribbean and i'm sure i'll get it before 90% of you so called West Coast fans.
I had to get mine ordered from the music store here along witt I Luv Cali & Laugh Now, Cry Later. I'm just patiently waiting on them to arrive.
because CIA track and video are dope and is NOTHING like the album
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Damn why u people hate so much, I'm from Europe, and I really think the album is good
Didnt buy it yet because is not in stores in here
Im gettin sick of people bitching album how many record they sell or will sell
It seems u guys look more at the recordsales then just the music
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fareal, yall treat hiphop like its the wwf. grow up young niccas, enjoy music or dont. leave it at that.