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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Detox Iz Not Active on July 07, 2006, 05:48:31 PM
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I was just bumpin Doggy Dogg World and Kurupt was 8) as usual during that time, but is not the same rapper after death row
you see, most rappers aren't as good as they used to but they at least show flashes of how good they used to be once in a while. Not Kurupt, even his flow has changed. Who was wrting his shit? DOC? RBX? Snoop? Rage?
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Dr. Dre did.
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Dr. Dre did.
lol
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Dr. Dre did.
lol
seriously though... it was the same shit back then, but just on a lower level... so i don't see why you question it
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I think it would be safe to say Kurupt DID write his own lyrics back then...
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I think it would be safe to say Kurupt DID write his own lyrics back then...
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this a simple hater post.. ive got deathrow books that even has independant managers that worked with kurupt before the whole deathrow era that say kurupt wrote everything 101%.. dude ripped mic's apart period, homie :)
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this a simple hater post.. ive got deathrow books that even has independant managers that worked with kurupt before the whole deathrow era that say kurupt wrote everything 101%.. dude ripped mic's apart period, homie :)
Yup in his prime I think he was BY FAR the illest allive but wow nowadays what a different story.
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Did he get brain damage?
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Did he get brain damage?
Yeah, just like you have brain damage, but the cause is different. He got brain damage because of all the spliffs he's seen in his life and you got brain damage by birth.
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this dude got it wrong. with any artist, in the beginning they wrote all their shiet then as they get bigger they pay for ghostwriters. which is why in most cases people say 'damn why cant _____ be as good as he was on his first album'
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this a simple hater post.. ive got deathrow books that even has independant managers that worked with kurupt before the whole deathrow era that say kurupt wrote everything 101%.. dude ripped mic's apart period, homie :)
Yup in his prime I think he was BY FAR the illest allive but wow nowadays what a different story.
yeh with success comes a lack of hunger.. kurupt lost it big time.. is a modern day tragedy
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this dude got it wrong. with any artist, in the beginning they wrote all their shiet then as they get bigger they pay for ghostwriters. which is why in most cases people say 'damn why cant _____ be as good as he was on his first album'
(Mad) Skillz...
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this dude got it wrong. with any artist, in the beginning they wrote all their shiet then as they get bigger they pay for ghostwriters. which is why in most cases people say 'damn why cant _____ be as good as he was on his first album'
Any rapper that uses ghostwriters is WACK AS FUCK! Rappers like Yukmouth or Method Man would be caught dead before ever using a ghostwriter.
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this a simple hater post.. ive got deathrow books that even has independant managers that worked with kurupt before the whole deathrow era that say kurupt wrote everything 101%.. dude ripped mic's apart period, homie :)
Yup in his prime I think he was BY FAR the illest allive but wow nowadays what a different story.
yeh with success comes a lack of hunger.. kurupt lost it big time.. is a modern day tragedy
but Kurupt hasn't had success in 10 years!!
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this dude got it wrong. with any artist, in the beginning they wrote all their shiet then as they get bigger they pay for ghostwriters. which is why in most cases people say 'damn why cant _____ be as good as he was on his first album'
Any rapper that uses ghostwriters is WACK AS FUCK! Rappers like Yukmouth or Method Man would be caught dead before ever using a ghostwriter.
It's not like Yukmouth is a great rapper. Not these days at least, lol
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this dude got it wrong. with any artist, in the beginning they wrote all their shiet then as they get bigger they pay for ghostwriters. which is why in most cases people say 'damn why cant _____ be as good as he was on his first album'
Any rapper that uses ghostwriters is WACK AS FUCK! Rappers like Yukmouth or Method Man would be caught dead before ever using a ghostwriter.
It's not like Yukmouth is a great rapper. Not these days at least, lol
Yeah right! Yukmouth is one of the rare rappers that has gotten better with age your trippen. Yuk is much more on point with his flow, metaphors, and word play then he was back in the day, Yukmouth has gotten better as he has gotten older
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this dude got it wrong. with any artist, in the beginning they wrote all their shiet then as they get bigger they pay for ghostwriters. which is why in most cases people say 'damn why cant _____ be as good as he was on his first album'
Any rapper that uses ghostwriters is WACK AS FUCK! Rappers like Yukmouth or Method Man would be caught dead before ever using a ghostwriter.
It's not like Yukmouth is a great rapper. Not these days at least, lol
Yeah right! Yukmouth is one of the rare rappers that has gotten better with age your trippen. Yuk is much more on point with his flow, metaphors, and word play then he was back in the day, Yukmouth has gotten better as he has gotten older
hmm ima disagree with you here homie.. true yuk is a deadly mc and one of my all time greats, but i wouldnt say his solo career has grown that much from his early days.. yeh he shows a little more hunger now compared to his luniz days and also proved himself as one of the best battling rappers but that can be put down to the fact that he was one of only a few people holding it down for the bay area from the start.. i think yuk was more cleaver with word play and mataphors in the luniz days because they were using straight up bay slang as means to prove a point also the chemistry and flow between knum and yuk in my opinion was untouchable..
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this dude got it wrong. with any artist, in the beginning they wrote all their shiet then as they get bigger they pay for ghostwriters. which is why in most cases people say 'damn why cant _____ be as good as he was on his first album'
Any rapper that uses ghostwriters is WACK AS FUCK! Rappers like Yukmouth or Method Man would be caught dead before ever using a ghostwriter.
It's not like Yukmouth is a great rapper. Not these days at least, lol
Yeah right! Yukmouth is one of the rare rappers that has gotten better with age your trippen. Yuk is much more on point with his flow, metaphors, and word play then he was back in the day, Yukmouth has gotten better as he has gotten older
hmm ima disagree with you here homie.. true yuk is a deadly mc and one of my all time greats, but i wouldnt say his solo career has grown that much from his early days.. yeh he shows a little more hunger now compared to his luniz days and also proved himself as one of the best battling rappers but that can be put down to the fact that he was one of only a few people holding it down for the bay area from the start.. i think yuk was more cleaver with word play and mataphors in the luniz days because they were using straight up bay slang as means to prove a point also the chemistry and flow between knum and yuk in my opinion was untouchable..
Thats your opinion homie cause for example I believe Godzilla Yuk > Thugged Out Albulation Yuk I like his style much better these days
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this dude got it wrong. with any artist, in the beginning they wrote all their shiet then as they get bigger they pay for ghostwriters. which is why in most cases people say 'damn why cant _____ be as good as he was on his first album'
Any rapper that uses ghostwriters is WACK AS FUCK! Rappers like Yukmouth or Method Man would be caught dead before ever using a ghostwriter.
It's not like Yukmouth is a great rapper. Not these days at least, lol
Yeah right! Yukmouth is one of the rare rappers that has gotten better with age your trippen. Yuk is much more on point with his flow, metaphors, and word play then he was back in the day, Yukmouth has gotten better as he has gotten older
hmm ima disagree with you here homie.. true yuk is a deadly mc and one of my all time greats,
:puke:
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^ you seem to be a straight up hater, so dont care for your opinion bro 8)
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this dude got it wrong. with any artist, in the beginning they wrote all their shiet then as they get bigger they pay for ghostwriters. which is why in most cases people say 'damn why cant _____ be as good as he was on his first album'
Any rapper that uses ghostwriters is WACK AS FUCK! Rappers like Yukmouth or Method Man would be caught dead before ever using a ghostwriter.
It's not like Yukmouth is a great rapper. Not these days at least, lol
Yeah right! Yukmouth is one of the rare rappers that has gotten better with age your trippen. Yuk is much more on point with his flow, metaphors, and word play then he was back in the day, Yukmouth has gotten better as he has gotten older
hmm ima disagree with you here homie.. true yuk is a deadly mc and one of my all time greats,
:puke:
U always hate on the bay, right now Yukmouth > Any rapper in the West
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right now, YUK > Any rapper in west
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right now, YUK > Any rapper in west
erm yeh to a certain extent.. but you cant deny that yuk is probably the hardest working artist on the west right now
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right now, YUK > Any rapper in west
erm yeh to a certain extent.. but you cant deny that yuk is probably the hardest working artist on the west right now
no question no one in the west has as much game or hustle as yuk, that guy knows what he's doing
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this dude got it wrong. with any artist, in the beginning they wrote all their shiet then as they get bigger they pay for ghostwriters. which is why in most cases people say 'damn why cant _____ be as good as he was on his first album'
Any rapper that uses ghostwriters is WACK AS FUCK! Rappers like Yukmouth or Method Man would be caught dead before ever using a ghostwriter.
Eazy E.
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this dude got it wrong. with any artist, in the beginning they wrote all their shiet then as they get bigger they pay for ghostwriters. which is why in most cases people say 'damn why cant _____ be as good as he was on his first album'
Any rapper that uses ghostwriters is WACK AS FUCK! Rappers like Yukmouth or Method Man would be caught dead before ever using a ghostwriter.
Eazy E.
and imo Eazy wasnt that good of a rapper
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It's not about whether or not he wrote his own rhymes back in 94 and still does in 06. It's about the amount of time each of these fallen off rappers including Kurupt spends writing and constructing a good song. Like I said in the "Cali is not active" thread, Kurupt probably thinks he can spend 5 mins or just simply freestyle his verses and say "my cataclysmic orgasmic reaction causes static from the fabric" and we, the target audience, will eat it up like it's the greatest lyrics of all time. Obviously, we don't actually think that, of course. But why spend multiple days perfecting a song with 3 verses when you can freestyle some gangster shit off the top and your fans theoretically will like it just the same.
See, back in the Deathrow days, these rappers spent a lot more time constructing and writing songs. Thus, the lyrics were better.
I actually have my own theory as to why this has happened for all the OG Deathrow inmates (except Rage, and that's an important question to ask in light of everyone else falling off except arguably Nate Dogg; why hasn't Rage fallen off when everyone else has?). I'll make a separate thread about this over the weekend, because I want to get your reaction to it specifically. Thanks. :D
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this dude got it wrong. with any artist, in the beginning they wrote all their shiet then as they get bigger they pay for ghostwriters. which is why in most cases people say 'damn why cant _____ be as good as he was on his first album'
Any rapper that uses ghostwriters is WACK AS FUCK! Rappers like Yukmouth or Method Man would be caught dead before ever using a ghostwriter.
I'd love to see Meth & Yuk do a collabo, that would be just great.
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this dude got it wrong. with any artist, in the beginning they wrote all their shiet then as they get bigger they pay for ghostwriters. which is why in most cases people say 'damn why cant _____ be as good as he was on his first album'
Any rapper that uses ghostwriters is WACK AS FUCK! Rappers like Yukmouth or Method Man would be caught dead before ever using a ghostwriter.
I'd love to see Meth & Yuk do a collabo, that would be just great.
Yeah that would be sick
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It's not about whether or not he wrote his own rhymes back in 94 and still does in 06. It's about the amount of time each of these fallen off rappers including Kurupt spends writing and constructing a good song. Like I said in the "Cali is not active" thread, Kurupt probably thinks he can spend 5 mins or just simply freestyle his verses and say "my cataclysmic orgasmic reaction causes static from the fabric" and we, the target audience, will eat it up like it's the greatest lyrics of all time. Obviously, we don't actually think that, of course. But why spend multiple days perfecting a song with 3 verses when you can freestyle some gangster shit off the top and your fans theoretically will like it just the same.
See, back in the Deathrow days, these rappers spent a lot more time constructing and writing songs. Thus, the lyrics were better.
I actually have my own theory as to why this has happened for all the OG Deathrow inmates (except Rage, and that's an important question to ask in light of everyone else falling off except arguably Nate Dogg; why hasn't Rage fallen off when everyone else has?). I'll make a separate thread about this over the weekend, because I want to get your reaction to it specifically. Thanks. :D
Man, that is what I have been saying about Rage for years now. She was the only highlight in Doggystyle All Stars and WTTC and she sounds as good if not better than before. She needs a album out. That mixtape she put out last year was bangin.
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everybody was better back in the day because they were hungry
rap music was not big like today and unless you ripped it up you couldn't hold a mic
they all had to establish themselves and introduce
nowadays it's different, "like every idiot that can spit be droppin a hit"
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Kururpt was the most feared MC in the game for some time. Nobody wanted it with dude. He proabaly has lost his hunger to be that rapper ever sinse he re-signed to Death Row. Also, this might be funny to some of you, but years & years of hardciore drug abuse ( and we know it ain't just weed ) most likely fried his brain. Real talk and Im speaking from experience too.
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He proabaly has lost his hunger to be that rapper ever sinse he re-signed to Death Row. Also, this might be funny to some of you, but years & years of hardciore drug abuse ( and we know it ain't just weed ) most likely fried his brain. Real talk and Im speaking from experience too.
^ all these words here, I've thought the exact same thing before
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And another thing, I would never say he didn't write his own lyrics becuase with each album, we have seen him get progessivley worse. Never a complete change, but little by little, he seems to just be losing it. For the records, I always have been, and will always remian a Kurupt fan.
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like you said, he was fine up until he left DPG
I strongly disagree with anyone who says he wasn't good on "Dillinger & Young Gotti" in 2001
even though he wasn't in '95 form like most expected him to be throughout his career, his lyrics were fine and entertaining
that album I like every song, never skip a track
like the "I'ma Gangsta" solo, that's no lyricist Kurupt trying to blow your mind, he came with a lot of tight raps to fit the beat
one of my favorite tracks 8)
he's just fucked up now man, too much mileage on him
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he's just fucked up now man, too much mileage on him
dude needs an oil change
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he's just fucked up now man, too much mileage on him
dude needs an oil change
Who's the chick in your AVI? That Jamie Kennedy or whatever her name is? Lol. :o
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yup
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he's just fucked up now man, too much mileage on him
dude needs an oil change
Who's the chick in your AVI? That Jamie Kennedy or whatever her name is? Lol. :o
Jamie Presley
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^ you seem to be a straight up hater, so dont care for your opinion bro 8)
it's hating to think Yuk isn't one of the all time greats?
you're a fukkin fool mayne
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Kurupt has fallen off but i think its an over exaggeration to say he is now un listenable or terrible, he still shows flashes of the old kurupt.
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^ you seem to be a straight up hater, so dont care for your opinion bro 8)
it's hating to think Yuk isn't one of the all time greats?
you're a fukkin fool mayne
shut the fuck up you fool.. obviously you cant read!! i said he was one of my favourites wasnt talking for anyone else.. so keep you smart ass comments to your self bitch.. + every thread i read from you is about hating on another artist.. if you could do better then do it dick!!
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this a simple hater post.. ive got deathrow books that even has independant managers that worked with kurupt before the whole deathrow era that say kurupt wrote everything 101%.. dude ripped mic's apart period, homie :)
Yup in his prime I think he was BY FAR the illest allive but wow nowadays what a different story.
You had to throw that in didnt you?
I dont know what people are talking about, the last few years he hasnt sounded quite like he did in 95...but in Kuruption and Streetz iz a mutha he sounded damn GREAT to me.
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this a simple hater post.. ive got deathrow books that even has independant managers that worked with kurupt before the whole deathrow era that say kurupt wrote everything 101%.. dude ripped mic's apart period, homie :)
Yup in his prime I think he was BY FAR the illest allive but wow nowadays what a different story.
yeh with success comes a lack of hunger.. kurupt lost it big time.. is a modern day tragedy
but Kurupt hasn't had success in 10 years!!
HOW STUPID ARE YOU????? STREETZ, SPACE BOGGIE, and KURUPTION WERE ALL GREAT AND SOLD WELL!!!!
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this a simple hater post.. ive got deathrow books that even has independant managers that worked with kurupt before the whole deathrow era that say kurupt wrote everything 101%.. dude ripped mic's apart period, homie :)
Yup in his prime I think he was BY FAR the illest allive but wow nowadays what a different story.
You had to throw that in didnt you?
I dont know what people are talking about, the last few years he hasnt sounded quite like he did in 95...but in Kuruption and Streetz iz a mutha he sounded damn GREAT to me.
I agree I laugh when people say Gotti fell off in the 90's thats BULLSHIT. imo Kuruption was GREAT, imo Streetz was GREAT, AND imo Space Boogie was very, very, good. I dont think Kurupt fell off until he resigned back to tha row.
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this a simple hater post.. ive got deathrow books that even has independant managers that worked with kurupt before the whole deathrow era that say kurupt wrote everything 101%.. dude ripped mic's apart period, homie :)
Yup in his prime I think he was BY FAR the illest allive but wow nowadays what a different story.
You had to throw that in didnt you?
I dont know what people are talking about, the last few years he hasnt sounded quite like he did in 95...but in Kuruption and Streetz iz a mutha he sounded damn GREAT to me.
I agree I laugh when people say Gotti fell off in the 90's thats BULLSHIT. imo Kuruption was GREAT, imo Streetz was GREAT, AND imo Space Boogie was very, very, good. I dont think Kurupt fell off until he resigned back to tha row.
I can agree with that....But Why are people still dogging Kurupt Ive heard SDDS and He Spits Hot! Of Course not like 95! But his flow is Great, and his lyrics are much better then the last few years. And he soudns real good on the DAZ BEATS.
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this a simple hater post.. ive got deathrow books that even has independant managers that worked with kurupt before the whole deathrow era that say kurupt wrote everything 101%.. dude ripped mic's apart period, homie :)
Yup in his prime I think he was BY FAR the illest allive but wow nowadays what a different story.
You had to throw that in didnt you?
I dont know what people are talking about, the last few years he hasnt sounded quite like he did in 95...but in Kuruption and Streetz iz a mutha he sounded damn GREAT to me.
I agree I laugh when people say Gotti fell off in the 90's thats BULLSHIT. imo Kuruption was GREAT, imo Streetz was GREAT, AND imo Space Boogie was very, very, good. I dont think Kurupt fell off until he resigned back to tha row.
I can agree with that....But Why are people still dogging Kurupt Ive heard SDDS and He Spits Hot! Of Course not like 95! But his flow is Great, and his lyrics are much better then the last few years. And he soudns real good on the DAZ BEATS.
Yeah I enjoyed Same Day Different Shit alot more than Against the Grain. In his new album I still thought Kurupt's lyrics were just average but he fuckin flowed his ass off and yes he sounded tight rapping on daz's beats.
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this a simple hater post.. ive got deathrow books that even has independant managers that worked with kurupt before the whole deathrow era that say kurupt wrote everything 101%.. dude ripped mic's apart period, homie :)
Yup in his prime I think he was BY FAR the illest allive but wow nowadays what a different story.
You had to throw that in didnt you?
I dont know what people are talking about, the last few years he hasnt sounded quite like he did in 95...but in Kuruption and Streetz iz a mutha he sounded damn GREAT to me.
I agree I laugh when people say Gotti fell off in the 90's thats BULLSHIT. imo Kuruption was GREAT, imo Streetz was GREAT, AND imo Space Boogie was very, very, good. I dont think Kurupt fell off until he resigned back to tha row.
I can agree with that....But Why are people still dogging Kurupt Ive heard SDDS and He Spits Hot! Of Course not like 95! But his flow is Great, and his lyrics are much better then the last few years. And he soudns real good on the DAZ BEATS.
Yeah I enjoyed Same Day Different Shit alot more than Against the Grain. In his new album I still thought Kurupt's lyrics were just average but he fuckin flowed his ass off and yes he sounded tight rapping on daz's beats.
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I think his lyrics will always be average from here on out, he just doesnt have it in him anymore to say shit like he said on Dogg Food....But he still was great to listen too on this Cd.
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this a simple hater post.. ive got deathrow books that even has independant managers that worked with kurupt before the whole deathrow era that say kurupt wrote everything 101%.. dude ripped mic's apart period, homie :)
Yup in his prime I think he was BY FAR the illest allive but wow nowadays what a different story.
You had to throw that in didnt you?
I dont know what people are talking about, the last few years he hasnt sounded quite like he did in 95...but in Kuruption and Streetz iz a mutha he sounded damn GREAT to me.
I agree I laugh when people say Gotti fell off in the 90's thats BULLSHIT. imo Kuruption was GREAT, imo Streetz was GREAT, AND imo Space Boogie was very, very, good. I dont think Kurupt fell off until he resigned back to tha row.
I can agree with that....But Why are people still dogging Kurupt Ive heard SDDS and He Spits Hot! Of Course not like 95! But his flow is Great, and his lyrics are much better then the last few years. And he soudns real good on the DAZ BEATS.
Yeah I enjoyed Same Day Different Shit alot more than Against the Grain. In his new album I still thought Kurupt's lyrics were just average but he fuckin flowed his ass off and yes he sounded tight rapping on daz's beats.
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I think his lyrics will always be average from here on out, he just doesnt have it in him anymore to say shit like he said on Dogg Food....But he still was great to listen too on this Cd.
I agree I thought Kurupts album was significantly better than Cali Iz Not Active
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^^^ yeah, you two seem to share my opinion on Kurupt
only difference between me and Spice is that I liked "Cali Iz Active"
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^^^ yeah, you two seem to share my opinion on Kurupt
only difference between me and Spice is that I liked "Cali Iz Active"
yeah but i did like Cali Iz Active. Spice didnt...
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a classic verse from Kurupt post Death Row:
(Kurupt)
Shut the fuck up bitch,
Eat a dick bitch,
Eat a bowl of shit bitch,
Munch on a mouthful of balls, in halls and malls
Just shut the fuck up bitch and work your jaws.
Take a pill bitch, chill bitch.
Jerk your jaws,
Eat the pussy in then work the walls.
I seen that nigga last week it's like this,
What a hoe ass nigga, he still in love wit the bitch.
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I was just bumpin Doggy Dogg World and Kurupt was 8) as usual during that time, but is not the same rapper after death row
you see, most rappers aren't as good as they used to but they at least show flashes of how good they used to be once in a while. Not Kurupt, even his flow has changed. Who was wrting his shit? DOC? RBX? Snoop? Rage?
DOC talked about writin all his lyrics in a source interview once
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i think dat ninja smoked himself bad into grade school and just cant bust like he used to
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nah i think kurupt freestyles everything and doesn't write anymore. i remember reading a interview of X-Raided and he talked about kurupt freestyling everything and that he ain't feelin many LA rappers n shit
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nah i think kurupt freestyles everything and doesn't write anymore. i remember reading a interview of X-Raided and he talked about kurupt freestyling everything and that he ain't feelin many LA rappers n shit
I know what interview you are talking bout it was one of the realest interviews I have ever read. Yeah XRaided mentions how he used to like kurupt but he wasnt feeling many LA rappers these days and he also said his favorite rapper by far was Yukmouth, hard to blame him.
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x-raided is a real dude.. hell his first album is what landed him in prison. ANYWAYS back on topic yeah it sounds like kurupt freestyles everything now and doesn't put too much work into shit like he used to
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kurupt is an alcoholic...but i still like alot of his shit 8)
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Kurupt ripped Streetz Iz A Mutha,thats his postdeathrow work!