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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on July 20, 2006, 04:37:34 AM
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Nas
...I know, I know, he is very inconsistent. But he's had the greatest East Coast album ever, "Illmatic", and 4 other solid records in "It Was Written", "Stillmatic", "Lost Tapes" and "God's Son."
He's also done good work on guest appearances, and in groups like The Firm, stuff like that.
-He's an intelligent rapper, like he says, he's a "rappers rapper".
-His creativity in tracks like the one about his Gun on "It Was Written", probably gave 2pac his idea for "Me And My Girlfriend". Also, he comes out every now and then with a track like, "My Book of Rhymes", that is really creative and pushes the envelop lyrically, and conceptually.
-What really made him great was when he came back from his wack Nas Escobar phase and dropped "Stillmatic". That's when he really reclaimed the thrown. Tracks like Poison ("What Goes Around Comes Around"), "One Mic", "Yur The Man".. .these are classic Nas tracks, introspective, lyrical.
-Nas is a great lyricist, and he's still around, holdin it down today, when everyone was gets away from the lyrics, Nas is always the rapper who is still mainstream, and still puts 100% into his lyrics.
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2Pac.
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Nas
For once, you are not talking complete nonsense.
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G Rap,Rakim & Nas are the best rappers from NY.
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G Rap,Rakim & Nas are the best rappers from NY.
Rakim certainly has a right to be mentioned.
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Rakim, Nas, Jigga, Biggie, Chuck D, and Guru
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Biggie
I was wondering how long it would take before Mr. Over-rated himself would be mentioned.
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G Rap,Rakim & Nas are the best rappers from NY.
Rakim certainly has a right to be mentioned.
and G Rap doesn´t? hell ALL of the New York rappers stole their style and lyrical content from him.
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There would be no Nas, Biggie, Pac or Jigga without the GOAT Rakim. If any of you know about lyrical content and ryhme patterns you know Ra is untouchable. Don't just listen to Paid in Full (which is enough), check his whole body of work. Listen to every other rapper that calls him the greatest. And the best part about it is that he still demands respect even though he hasn't dropped an album in years, he still sell out shows, he still creates a buzz when his name is mentioned and he still hasn't given us his greatest album yet.....The Seventh Seal. Wait that shit drops...forget about it. So all you who think someone other than Ra is the greatest, have no clue what Rakim has done for and to this rap game.
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Nas and GhostFace Killah
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Either Nas, Rakim, KRS or BDK
definitely not Jay-Z
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Biggie or Jay for me.
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Biggie or Jay for me.
I'd say Jay could be in there as the Greatest of the modern era but I don't think either has a right to be named "Greatest East Coast Rapper Of All Time".
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Nas, Rakim and Masta Ace.. those are some of them
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Kool G Rap & Ghostface.
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I would say Wu Tang as group but solo something is still missing from Rae, Ghost and Meth(whom I like the most from the group)
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I would say Wu Tang as group but solo something is still missing from Rae, Ghost and Meth(whom I like the most from the group)
GZA>Meth,Rae and Ghost combined lol. maybe that´s taking it a lil too far but GZA´s nasty with the lyrics.
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Biggie
I was wondering how long it would take before Mr. Over-rated himself would be mentioned.
mr over-rated... please for the love of god put a bullet in your head... but b4 you do that be sure to kill your parents so there is no chance of them reproducing a offspring such as your self
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no order, nas, big, rakim, kool g rap, slick rick, and big daddy kane
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kool g rap, rakim, biggie, nas, jay-z
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Biggie
I was wondering how long it would take before Mr. Over-rated himself would be mentioned.
mr over-rated... please for the love of god put a bullet in your head... but b4 you do that be sure to kill your parents so there is no chance of them reproducing a offspring such as your self
how about...no
how about...fuck off and die
biggie is over-rated...deal with it
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Biggie
I was wondering how long it would take before Mr. Over-rated himself would be mentioned.
mr over-rated... please for the love of god put a bullet in your head... but b4 you do that be sure to kill your parents so there is no chance of them reproducing a offspring such as your self
how about...no
how about...fuck off and die
biggie is over-rated...deal with it
your life is worthless... for the love of god do yourself a favor and drink this
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your life is worthless... for the love of god do yourself a favor and drink this
i can ASSURE you, my life is better than yours. :)
please end yourself and stop being a bitch.
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your life is worthless... for the love of god do yourself a favor and drink this
i can ASSURE you, my life is better than yours. :)
please end yourself and stop being a bitch.
im talking about who has the better life... your hip hop pass is revoked dip shit :D
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your life is worthless... for the love of god do yourself a favor and drink this
i can ASSURE you, my life is better than yours. :)
please end yourself and stop being a bitch.
im talking about who has the better life... your hip hop pass is revoked dip shit :D
you don't get to decide shit bitch, better luck next time faggot
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I agree with you here, glad to open the thread and see the first word was Nas cause thats exactly what I had goin through my head
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your life is worthless... for the love of god do yourself a favor and drink this
i can ASSURE you, my life is better than yours. :)
please end yourself and stop being a bitch.
im talking about who has the better life... your hip hop pass is revoked dip shit :D
you don't get to decide shit bitch, better luck next time faggot
shouldnt you be sipping tea, eating crumpets, and playing soccer.. get out of my presence you peasant
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Biggie
I was wondering how long it would take before Mr. Over-rated himself would be mentioned.
mr over-rated... please for the love of god put a bullet in your head... but b4 you do that be sure to kill your parents so there is no chance of them reproducing a offspring such as your self
how about...no
how about...fuck off and die
biggie is over-rated...deal with it
word
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shouldnt you be sipping tea, eating crumpets, and playing soccer.. get out of my presence you peasant
No, no, maybe I should it's a nice day although it's called football..and no
any more questions?
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shouldnt you be sipping tea, eating crumpets, and playing soccer.. get out of my presence you peasant
No, no, maybe I should it's a nice day although it's called football..and no
any more questions?
yes... why havnt you deleted your membership here.... your hip hip pass is revoked and your opinion holds no weight... next time do not question a new yorkers authority
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I would say Wu Tang as group but solo something is still missing from Rae, Ghost and Meth(whom I like the most from the group)
GZA>Meth,Rae and Ghost combined lol. maybe that´s taking it a lil too far but GZA´s nasty with the lyrics.
Yeah its a matter of taste
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yes... why havnt you deleted your membership here.... your hip hip pass is revoked and your opinion holds no weight... next time do not question a new yorkers authority
You are a fucking moron, haven't they discovered a cure for you yet? Is there still hope?
And just bcoz u come from New York doesn't give you a golden pass to everything. you actually consider biggie to be ranked among the greats ever from New York, shows how fucking much you know.... :laugh:
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Biggie, Cam'Ron, Jay-z, Nas, Rakim
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Biggie
I was wondering how long it would take before Mr. Over-rated himself would be mentioned.
mr over-rated... please for the love of god put a bullet in your head... but b4 you do that be sure to kill your parents so there is no chance of them reproducing a offspring such as your self
how about...no
how about...fuck off and die
biggie is over-rated...deal with it
word
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yes... why havnt you deleted your membership here.... your hip hip pass is revoked and your opinion holds no weight... next time do not question a new yorkers authority
You are a fucking moron, haven't they discovered a cure for you yet? Is there still hope?
And just bcoz u come from New York doesn't give you a golden pass to everything. you actually consider biggie to be ranked among the greats ever from New York, shows how fucking much you know.... :laugh:
dont make me son you on my hip hop knowledge god
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biggie was fuckin great, he was impersonnating new york, he was not the best lyrically but he was fuckin tight he had a great flow and a great personnality. When i think of new york, i think of biggie
the best rapper from new york is rakim, followed by nas
other greats are biggie, gza, slick rick, krs one, kool keith, jay-z, kool g rap, big daddy kane, etc
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rakim, nas, gza, kool g rap, big daddy kane, krs one
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biggie was fuckin great, he was impersonnating new york, he was not the best lyrically but he was fuckin tight he had a great flow and a great personnality. When i think of new york, i think of biggie
the best rapper from new york is rakim, followed by nas
other greats are biggie, gza, slick rick, krs one, kool keith, jay-z
the point was that BIG should not be mentioned, he was good - but not that good. In fact for a thread like this there should be about 3, 4, maybe 5 names in the mix, no more. BIG's name wouldn't/shouldn't be one of them.
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biggie was fuckin great, he was impersonnating new york, he was not the best lyrically but he was fuckin tight he had a great flow and a great personnality. When i think of new york, i think of biggie
the best rapper from new york is rakim, followed by nas
other greats are biggie, gza, slick rick, krs one, kool keith, jay-z
the point was that BIG should not be mentioned, he was good - but not that good. In fact for a thread like this there should be about 3, 4, maybe 5 names in the mix, no more. BIG's name wouldn't/shouldn't be one of them.
and your opinion is wrong lmao.... dude could do everything...he may not of been the best in each catagory but he could do it all very good though.... as good as nas is his flow was nothing special... as good as rakim is he never made a crossover hit like big poppa that got love among the pop crowd and still got love in the streets. Big deserves to be mentioned. And anyone that disagrees was most likely a 2pac stan at one time or another and can never admit how good big is. Or is either a jack off like mack 10
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^^ Do you ever take a look at yourself and wonder why you live a lonely life? :-\
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^^ Do you ever take a look at yourself and wonder why you live a lonely life? :-\
Im not lonely tho :D... dont be mad i just proved you wrong though... too bad you were only 4 and living in a cottage in scotland when big was around. Then you would of realized the impact of biggie. Untill go play your bagpipes or toss the taber around.
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Untill go play your bagpipes or toss the taber around.
there have been several, but this will be the first mistake from you that I will highlight.
And it's strange how I believe Rakim to be a better contender for "Greatest East Coast Rapper Of All Time" rather than Biggie even tho Ra's career was mainly before Biggie's. Seems to work against your theory. Don't get me wrong, you did make some valid points but they were few and far between.
Then you would of realized the impact of biggie.
Yeh true, he did make an impact but that isn't the issue.
Also, I don't recall you proving me wrong AT ANY POINT during this, strange. ???
You stating your opinion after I stated mine? Was that perhaps you proving me wrong? ???
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Rakim
KRS-One
Nas
Big Daddy Kane
The Notorious B.I.G.
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Untill go play your bagpipes or toss the taber around.
there have been several, but this will be the first mistake from you that I will highlight.
And it's strange how I believe Rakim to be a better contender for "Greatest East Coast Rapper Of All Time" rather than Biggie even tho Ra's career was mainly before Biggie's. Seems to work against your theory. Don't get me wrong, you did make some valid points but they were few and far between.
Then you would of realized the impact of biggie.
Yeh true, he did make an impact but that isn't the issue.
Also, I don't recall you proving me wrong AT ANY POINT during this, strange. ???
You stating your opinion after I stated mine? Was that perhaps you proving me wrong? ???
How isnt impact a issue lolol. The impact he made in such a short time period shows how great he was. Look how many rappers bite his style lol. The fact every rapper and there mother still mentions him shows how great he was. Im not saying hes the greatest of all time but to try and say he doesnt even deserve to get mentioned and the fact he is over-rated.... thefuckouttahere
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Im not saying hes the greatest of all time
So when people say he is the greatest of all time - that is him being "over-rated". Get it now?
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Im not saying hes the greatest of all time
So when people say he is the greatest of all time - that is him being "over-rated". Get it now?
when majority of hip hop heads say he is one of the greatest, i think the person saying he isnt worthy of a mention might be a tad bias... no go make me some dinner bitch
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:sign_withstupid:
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:sign_withstupid:
u got no argument now bow down in praise for tom
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So when people say he is the greatest of all time - that is him being "over-rated". Get it now?
That was the end of the argument there son, you put yourself into a corner and now you can't get out of it.
Do yourself a favour, end it.
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So when people say he is the greatest of all time - that is him being "over-rated". Get it now?
That was the end of the argument there son, you put yourself into a corner and now you can't get out of it.
Do yourself a favour, end it.
i already sonned you lol. I disposed of your argument. The fact other people bite his whole style shows how great he was, not how he was overated. No one bites and over-rated persons style. Your a former 2pac stan. You were one of those cats that thought pac was still alive. So you argument holds no weight what so ever.
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i already sonned you lol. I disposed of your argument. The fact other people bite his whole style shows how great he was, not how he was overated. No one bites and over-rated persons style. Your a former 2pac stan. You were one of those cats that thought pac was still alive. So you argument holds no weight what so ever.
lol, your funny. slightly retarded but funny.
opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. even you, tho you are off the mark on this one. sorry.
big is good but over-rated, we seem to be goin around in circles.
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i already sonned you lol. I disposed of your argument. The fact other people bite his whole style shows how great he was, not how he was overated. No one bites and over-rated persons style. Your a former 2pac stan. You were one of those cats that thought pac was still alive. So you argument holds no weight what so ever.
lol, your funny. slightly retarded but funny.
opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. even you, tho you are off the mark on this one. sorry.
big is good but over-rated, we seem to be goin around in circles.
your right we are running in circles, whats the point of arguing about bigs greatness with a person that is bias due to his 2pac stanism
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your right we are running in circles, whats the point of arguing about bigs greatness with a person that is bias due to his 2pac stanism
of course i'm right, that's a given. ;)
but yeh, it's over. biggie ain't close to #1.
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Rakim
G Rap
Krs-One
Nas
Chuck D
Honorable Mention: Notorious BIG
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Big L
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1. Jay-Z
2. Biggie Smalls
3. Nas
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BTW, Mac 10 should be ashamed of himself talking down Biggie like hes done in this thread...... :nawty:
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BIG was amazing, he was one of those rappers like pac who would just grow and get better with each album, shame he had to go, opposite of most rappers like snoop who decline with each album
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Obviously can't name one, but here's some off top:
Rakim
Big Daddy Kane
KRS One
Nas
Biggie
Some other greats that didn't have as profound an impact:
Jeru The Damaja
GZA
AZ
Kool Keith (grossly underrated)
CL Smooth
Busta (LOTNS days)
Grand Puba
Chubb Rock
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(http://www.universalmusic.ru/public/img/artists/jay-z.jpg) (http://www.airbrushfrankhazen.com/biggie_b_w_265x308.JPG)
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too be honest, i really surprised to see Jay get this much love especially from here.
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Gotta give it to JAy-z
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Nas
...I know, I know, he is very inconsistent. But he's had the greatest East Coast album ever, "Illmatic", and 4 other solid records in "It Was Written", "Stillmatic", "Lost Tapes" and "God's Son."
He's also done good work on guest appearances, and in groups like The Firm, stuff like that.
-He's an intelligent rapper, like he says, he's a "rappers rapper".
-His creativity in tracks like the one about his Gun on "It Was Written", probably gave 2pac his idea for "Me And My Girlfriend". Also, he comes out every now and then with a track like, "My Book of Rhymes", that is really creative and pushes the envelop lyrically, and conceptually.
-What really made him great was when he came back from his wack Nas Escobar phase and dropped "Stillmatic". That's when he really reclaimed the thrown. Tracks like Poison ("What Goes Around Comes Around"), "One Mic", "Yur The Man".. .these are classic Nas tracks, introspective, lyrical.
-Nas is a great lyricist, and he's still around, holdin it down today, when everyone was gets away from the lyrics, Nas is always the rapper who is still mainstream, and still puts 100% into his lyrics.
What was the song called from STILLMATIC where Nas rapped the whole song backwards?
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Biggie was great but how can anyone say that a guy that only put out 2 albums while he was alive is the GOAT of the east coast?
Rakim
Big Daddy Kane
KRS ONE
Jay-Z
Nas
Greatest Groups
Wu Tang Clan
Mobb Deep
BDP
Juice Crew
EPMD
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Nas
...I know, I know, he is very inconsistent. But he's had the greatest East Coast album ever, "Illmatic", and 4 other solid records in "It Was Written", "Stillmatic", "Lost Tapes" and "God's Son."
He's also done good work on guest appearances, and in groups like The Firm, stuff like that.
-He's an intelligent rapper, like he says, he's a "rappers rapper".
-His creativity in tracks like the one about his Gun on "It Was Written", probably gave 2pac his idea for "Me And My Girlfriend". Also, he comes out every now and then with a track like, "My Book of Rhymes", that is really creative and pushes the envelop lyrically, and conceptually.
-What really made him great was when he came back from his wack Nas Escobar phase and dropped "Stillmatic". That's when he really reclaimed the thrown. Tracks like Poison ("What Goes Around Comes Around"), "One Mic", "Yur The Man".. .these are classic Nas tracks, introspective, lyrical.
-Nas is a great lyricist, and he's still around, holdin it down today, when everyone was gets away from the lyrics, Nas is always the rapper who is still mainstream, and still puts 100% into his lyrics.
What was the song called from STILLMATIC where Nas rapped the whole song backwards?
rewind
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BTW, Mac 10 should be ashamed of himself talking down Biggie like hes done in this thread...... :nawty:
I stated an opinion on the 1st page, it was some asswipe that carried it on and dragged it out for another 2 pages.
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BTW, Mac 10 should be ashamed of himself talking down Biggie like hes done in this thread...... :nawty:
I stated an opinion on the 1st page, it was some asswipe that carried it on and dragged it out for another 2 pages.
dont be mad at me that other people think your a jack off lol.
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BTW, Mac 10 should be ashamed of himself talking down Biggie like hes done in this thread...... :nawty:
I stated an opinion on the 1st page, it was some asswipe that carried it on and dragged it out for another 2 pages.
dont be mad at me that other people think your a jack off lol.
I was just clearing things up boyo, so he understood.
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BIG was amazing, he was one of those rappers like pac who would just grow and get better with each album, shame he had to go, opposite of most rappers like snoop who decline with each album
Ready to Die was much better than Life After Death, don't see too much growth there, or any reason for you to have come to that opinion.
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^^I actually disagree with your comment, I think Life After Death was fuckin' amazing, there was a few fillers but if you look at the cd as a whole it was better than Ready To Die, but to each is own
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how come nobody has nominated Big Pun
(http://www.irregardless.net/punster/BigPun.jpg)
maybe not the best, but he is one of the top artists from the east
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Kool G Rap, Big Daddy Kane, C.L. Smooth
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Knowledge Reign Supreme Over Nearly Everyone
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much love to Notorious BIG
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how come nobody has nominated Big Pun
(http://www.irregardless.net/punster/BigPun.jpg)
maybe not the best, but he is one of the top artists from the east
bigpun.u happy now,ya toothless freak.
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^^ yes, quite happy
on a side-note, i have all my teeth and i am not a freak, thank u very much lol
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kool g rap
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how come nobody has nominated Big Pun
(http://www.irregardless.net/punster/BigPun.jpg)
maybe not the best, but he is one of the top artists from the east
I was gonna ask the same question.He's definetely at least an honorable mention, if not one of the greatest
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Nas
...I know, I know, he is very inconsistent. But he's had the greatest East Coast album ever, "Illmatic", and 4 other solid records in "It Was Written", "Stillmatic", "Lost Tapes" and "God's Son."
He's also done good work on guest appearances, and in groups like The Firm, stuff like that.
-He's an intelligent rapper, like he says, he's a "rappers rapper".
-His creativity in tracks like the one about his Gun on "It Was Written", probably gave 2pac his idea for "Me And My Girlfriend". Also, he comes out every now and then with a track like, "My Book of Rhymes", that is really creative and pushes the envelop lyrically, and conceptually.
-What really made him great was when he came back from his wack Nas Escobar phase and dropped "Stillmatic". That's when he really reclaimed the thrown. Tracks like Poison ("What Goes Around Comes Around"), "One Mic", "Yur The Man".. .these are classic Nas tracks, introspective, lyrical.
-Nas is a great lyricist, and he's still around, holdin it down today, when everyone was gets away from the lyrics, Nas is always the rapper who is still mainstream, and still puts 100% into his lyrics.
What was the song called from STILLMATIC where Nas rapped the whole song backwards?
He doesn't rap backwards he just tells the story backwards.
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Nas
...I know, I know, he is very inconsistent. But he's had the greatest East Coast album ever, "Illmatic", and 4 other solid records in "It Was Written", "Stillmatic", "Lost Tapes" and "God's Son."
He's also done good work on guest appearances, and in groups like The Firm, stuff like that.
-He's an intelligent rapper, like he says, he's a "rappers rapper".
-His creativity in tracks like the one about his Gun on "It Was Written", probably gave 2pac his idea for "Me And My Girlfriend". Also, he comes out every now and then with a track like, "My Book of Rhymes", that is really creative and pushes the envelop lyrically, and conceptually.
-What really made him great was when he came back from his wack Nas Escobar phase and dropped "Stillmatic". That's when he really reclaimed the thrown. Tracks like Poison ("What Goes Around Comes Around"), "One Mic", "Yur The Man".. .these are classic Nas tracks, introspective, lyrical.
-Nas is a great lyricist, and he's still around, holdin it down today, when everyone was gets away from the lyrics, Nas is always the rapper who is still mainstream, and still puts 100% into his lyrics.
What was the song called from STILLMATIC where Nas rapped the whole song backwards?
He doesn't rap backwards he just tells the story backwards.
Whatever you know what i meant