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Title: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on August 02, 2006, 06:56:53 PM
All this wait for this album , all this hype, the Dr. Dre cosign, several big tracks (touch it, I luv my bitch, NY Shit)



and like a month later he hasn't hit gold, this is prob his last album on Aftermath
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: big mat on August 02, 2006, 08:21:10 PM
most people don't buy good music.
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: Matty on August 02, 2006, 08:36:40 PM
wasn't promoted right, bad single choice, album wasn't as outstanding as it should have been (although it was very good). busta deserved to flop, hope somebody learns a lesson from this...
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on August 02, 2006, 09:02:44 PM
Big Bang > any album on west in 06
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: "THE" MoSav on August 02, 2006, 11:51:10 PM
Big Bang > any album on west in 06

I can agree with that...he comes off on that cd
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: Don Jacob on August 03, 2006, 12:13:18 AM
you know what i don't think new cats respect him and i think older cats still can't get past his crazy wildin out days, it's hard to take him serious
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: akcranker - The Dangerous Crew Movement on August 03, 2006, 12:16:14 AM
I think it was a great album.. one of the best of the year and it deserved to go multiy platinum.  I admit.. I haven't bought it yet.. but then again my one purchase isn't going to bump it up to Platinum status but I still need to go buy it.
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: Meho on August 03, 2006, 06:25:46 AM
Its a great album, if 2 or 3 tracks were changed it could have been a classic.

All the push backs, weak choices of singles made this cd flop
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Busta has 5 video out and the album is in stores for only 2 months ! ::)
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: QuietTruth on August 03, 2006, 06:29:07 AM
They released 'Ghetto' or is it still in the works?
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: Meho on August 03, 2006, 06:35:42 AM
They released 'Ghetto' or is it still in the works?

Still in the works
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: Digital Pimpin' on August 03, 2006, 06:40:24 AM
Most people downloaded before it came out; only those who really, really liked it bought it.

Sounds harsh, but that's the truth with a lot of new albums. I bet more people have Cali Iz Active on their hard drives than have the OG Cd.
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: I`m Wayne Brady bitch! on August 03, 2006, 07:16:20 AM
The albums is fucking horrible, that's why no one buys it. It sounds like shit
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: QuietTruth on August 03, 2006, 07:17:08 AM
Most people downloaded before it came out; only those who really, really liked it bought it.

Sounds harsh, but that's the truth with a lot of new albums. I bet more people have Cali Iz Active on their hard drives than have the OG Cd.

Exactly!

Everybody downloading albums, reviewing em and check if its worth pickin' up. Record sales ain't going high cuz no niggas are actually going into the stores and buying them.
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: Digital Pimpin' on August 03, 2006, 07:22:29 AM
Most people downloaded before it came out; only those who really, really liked it bought it.

Sounds harsh, but that's the truth with a lot of new albums. I bet more people have Cali Iz Active on their hard drives than have the OG Cd.

Exactly!

Everybody downloading albums, reviewing em and check if its worth pickin' up. Record sales ain't going high cuz no niggas are actually going into the stores and buying them.

Thats cuz buying Cds is a fucking lottery. you normally end up with a pick n mix of generic tracks from the "in" producers. The only albums I'll definitely cop this year are So So Gangsta, Bangin' West Coast, and Blue Carpet Treatment.

Anything else I'll d/l and listen to first before I decide if it's worth buying.
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: QuietTruth on August 03, 2006, 07:26:15 AM
Busta is worth buying....I thought.
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: T-Dogg on August 03, 2006, 08:40:49 AM
Busta's record is a solid record - but I think it doesn't sell 'cause it doesn't sound commercial enough.

It is surprising that he hasn't gone gold though, I admit it. Sales can be funny sometimes. But then again - few of the actually good records that have come out recently have sold very well. (e.g. Cube's record, 40's record, Fishcale, Big Bang all are under gold status... (Or is Fishscale gold?) But, Cube & 40 are indie, so in that league their sales are really good. However compared to usual "big seller" numbers they haven't succeeded well.)
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: $do11a biLL$ on August 03, 2006, 08:51:52 AM
So far Bustas album is the best of the year in my book. The only reason it isn't selling is because its not mainstream sounding enough. I bet you if he collaborated with someone from the south or had a song with fucking Mariah Carey or something the album would already be gold. Plus people only wanna hear a Dre produced album with Eminem or 50 Cent on it otherwise the album won't sell.
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Post by: Eddie G. on August 03, 2006, 09:39:29 AM
His problem is they were fucking around.  Touch It was HUGE early in the year, it was like #1 on 106 & Park.  I guarantee you if they dropped it in February or something, he would be platinum.
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on August 03, 2006, 10:36:33 AM
His problem is they were fucking around.  Touch It was HUGE early in the year, it was like #1 on 106 & Park.  I guarantee you if they dropped it in February or something, he would be platinum.


yeah, they kept pushing shit back



and I luv my btich was a bad choice for 2nd signle becuse there were several better tracks to chose from
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: dameons on August 03, 2006, 10:40:11 AM
Oh fuck, not even gold is huge frustration for Dre.
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: Matty on August 03, 2006, 11:27:18 AM
like people have pointed out they were stupid for not dropping the album when touch it was causing a buzz for busta. it had faded out when the lp actually dropped and i love my bitch was not a hype enough single to recreate the earlier buzz. interscope were idiots with this one. people are gonna buy a record based on singles released on or around its actual release date - not months earlier...
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: Meho on August 03, 2006, 11:29:02 AM
like people have pointed out they were stupid for not dropping the album when touch it was causing a buzz for busta. it had faded out when the lp actually dropped and i love my bitch was not a hype enough single to recreate the earlier buzz. interscope were idiots with this one. people are gonna buy a record based on singles released on or around its actual release date - not months earlier...

They did the same shit with Obie and Pharrell, who already flopped
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: Matty on August 03, 2006, 11:36:36 AM
the funny thing was busta was like 'the big bang is coming, you better be ready, flipmode aftermath etc etc' when touch it was released. fair enough, decent enough club single but we presume something really dope (presumably with DRE) is gonna follow this up. we get to the stage when this BIG BANG is supposed to connect before the lp's release and he drops i love my bitch, which was laughable...

how we do it over here would have been the best single choice, even though i think dre and busta should have come up with something a lot better, it atleast would have helped sales and got spins in the clubs. hell i even played it during some of my sets at university when the album leaked and people were feeling it, sounded pretty sick on a club system and was the right speed to blend into those countless hit g-unit records @ around 98bpm.
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: westkoastanostra on August 03, 2006, 12:03:37 PM
man...maybe we should just face it....busta might be done....he's been a monster for 10 years...but his album "it aint safe no more" only went gold...and now this album cant even hit gold....the mainstream aint checking for busta like they used to....they'd rather hear some youngster w/ his lolipop bubblegum rap bullshit....
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: rik on August 03, 2006, 12:33:21 PM
Big Bang > any album on west in 06

Not true.

Murray's Revenge >>>>>>>>>>> Any album in 06
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: Westcoastfanatic on August 03, 2006, 12:55:34 PM
Well, atleast he's nominated for sum MTV VMA's this month.
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: PLANT on August 03, 2006, 01:45:46 PM
I was really dissapointed with this album....and I didnt buy it
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: BigBDrugStores on August 03, 2006, 03:12:04 PM
I was really dissapointed with this album....and I didnt buy it
that album sucked. but ive never realy been a busta fan. hes just kinda wack.
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: Sikotic™ on August 03, 2006, 03:43:32 PM
I have never been and still am not a Busta fan. To me, this was his most listenable album. There were some heaters on it, but still nothing that great to me.
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on August 03, 2006, 03:44:52 PM
I have never been and still am not a Busta fan. To me, this was his most listenable album. There were some heaters on it, but still nothing that great to me.

Yeah I have never been a Busta fan and I dont like his other albums and havnt really heard them, but I really liked The Big Bang
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: "THE" MoSav on August 03, 2006, 03:58:25 PM
Ive always liked Busta but I like his style now better then that crazy shit he was doing before. But man i like the BIG BANG.  8)
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: WestCoasta on August 03, 2006, 04:18:22 PM
I haven't heard the album, but if everyone says it was dope and it flopped, what does that tell you?


SoundScan numbers mean nothing whatsoever, I still see people judging albums on sales like the sales represent the quality
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: jeromechickenbone on August 03, 2006, 05:04:03 PM
Interscope fucked this damn thing up.  Busta signed with Aftermath, but we get bullshit ass singles produced by Swizz Beatz and Will.i.Am?  Who's the genius that thought those guys could ignite album sales better than DRE?  I'm not hating on Swizz or Will, but the peeps anticipating this most weren't waiting this long to hear those type of joints from those producers.  I don't understand that logic at all.  I'm sure there were some dope ass tracks on there, but I didn't buy it cuz I hated the singles.  I'd be willing to bet had the first 2 singles were 2 dope Dre productions, I'd likely have spent money on the shit.  Interscope is wack.

At the same time, I only own 1 Busta solo prior to this.  Busta is def one of the sickest MC's ever, but for one reason or another I never really anticipate his albums.  Give me Leaders of the New School anyday.
Title: Re: How big a bomb is that Busta isn't even gold
Post by: "THE" MoSav on August 03, 2006, 05:44:10 PM
Interscope fucked this damn thing up.  Busta signed with Aftermath, but we get bullshit ass singles produced by Swizz Beatz and Will.i.Am?  Who's the genius that thought those guys could ignite album sales better than DRE?  I'm not hating on Swizz or Will, but the peeps anticipating this most weren't waiting this long to hear those type of joints from those producers.  I don't understand that logic at all.  I'm sure there were some dope ass tracks on there, but I didn't buy it cuz I hated the singles.  I'd be willing to bet had the first 2 singles were 2 dope Dre productions, I'd likely have spent money on the shit.  Interscope is wack.

At the same time, I only own 1 Busta solo prior to this.  Busta is def one of the sickest MC's ever, but for one reason or another I never really anticipate his albums.  Give me Leaders of the New School anyday.

Thats a sick as quote at the bottom doggie  8)
EPMD had that Piff