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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Quadruple OG on August 06, 2006, 11:10:27 AM
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This poll isn't about who's the best on the west or who's the King of the west Coast. This poll is about what these artists have done for other West Coast artists to make them succeed.
E-40: Has brought the Hyphy movement to the mainstream, always promotes new and upcoming artists on his albums and on guest appearances, allows newer artists to shine, has put his family on and allowed them to have successful careers on their own, willing to work with anybody and does not hold many grudges (that the public know about at least)
Mack 10: Ressurrected the careers of MC Eiht, CJ Mac, and Techniec by making them relevant to the mainstream again, allowed other artists to shine on his albums, allowed his artists to drop albums on his label (he is a horrible lyricist so Mack 10 outshining someone on his label on the mic is out of the question), Hoo-Bangin' could have been the next Death Row had they gotten more exposure
DJ Quik: Has reinvented his sound over 15 years, brought out artists (AMG, 2nd II None, Hi-C, Mausberg, Suga Free) and allowed them to shine on his projects and expand on their own, has guided the careers of those artists to the point that they don't necessarily need an entirely DJ Quik produced album to make hot music,
Snoop Dogg: talks about West Coast unity every time he has a solo album that's about to be released, always overshadows artists on his label to make himself look better, gets jealous of those that do outshine him and tries to bury their careers, hops on a bandwagon to make it look like he's co-signing an artist or movement, good rapper and business man but when it comes to the business side of music he's a horrible CEO
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jt the bigga figga.
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i dont think ANYONE has done enough to help out the West, but out of those 4 it would have to be DJ Quik, close second being E-40
Dj Quik
E-40
Snoop Dogg
Mack 10
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Dre has helped out way more artists then these fuckers.
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LMAO at Mack10 on the list. Its Quik and 40 Easily, I dont believe Snoop is sincere in what hes doing so thats why I picked Quik and 40. And no Dre has not done as much for the west as 40 or Quik, not even close actually
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LMAO at Mack10 on the list. Its Quik and 40 Easily, I dont believe Snoop is sincere in what hes doing so thats why I picked Quik and 40. And no Dre has not done as much for the west as 40 or Quik, not even close actually
Ice Cube,Eazy-E,Ren,Snoop,Kurupt,Daz,Warren G,RBX,Xzibit,Game,Bishop Lamont,Hittman,Nate Dogg,The D.O.C. and these aren´t cats that he just produced a cut here and there for, he´s responsible for their careers.
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LMAO at Mack10 on the list. Its Quik and 40 Easily, I dont believe Snoop is sincere in what hes doing so thats why I picked Quik and 40. And no Dre has not done as much for the west as 40 or Quik, not even close actually
Ice Cube,Eazy-E,Ren,Snoop,Kurupt,Daz,Warren G,RBX,Xzibit,Game,Bishop Lamont,Hittman,Nate Dogg,The D.O.C. and these aren´t cats that he just produced a cut here and there for, he´s responsible for their careers.
I dont think he is responsible for all of thier careers, I meen shit Dre doesnt walk on water, he helped alot of those guys but hes not responsible for all of their careers lol
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LMAO at Mack10 on the list. Its Quik and 40 Easily, I dont believe Snoop is sincere in what hes doing so thats why I picked Quik and 40. And no Dre has not done as much for the west as 40 or Quik, not even close actually
Ice Cube,Eazy-E,Ren,Snoop,Kurupt,Daz,Warren G,RBX,Xzibit,Game,Bishop Lamont,Hittman,Nate Dogg,The D.O.C. and these aren´t cats that he just produced a cut here and there for, he´s responsible for their careers.
I dont think he is responsible for all of thier careers, I meen shit Dre doesnt walk on water, he helped alot of those guys but hes not responsible for all of their careers lol
he´s not? the only person that had somewhat of a name before fucking with Dre is Xzibit and he was a broke pack rapper before that. all of the other ones owe their careers to Dre, he´s the one that made Eazy start rapping. he brought Cube into N.W.A., he put the entire DPG crew on etc etc.
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warren g should be in that list too. he brought twinz, dove shack, 5 footaz, foesum and a r&b group (i don't remeber de name)
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LMAO at Mack10 on the list. Its Quik and 40 Easily, I dont believe Snoop is sincere in what hes doing so thats why I picked Quik and 40. And no Dre has not done as much for the west as 40 or Quik, not even close actually
Ice Cube,Eazy-E,Ren,Snoop,Kurupt,Daz,Warren G,RBX,Xzibit,Game,Bishop Lamont,Hittman,Nate Dogg,The D.O.C. and these aren´t cats that he just produced a cut here and there for, he´s responsible for their careers.
I dont think he is responsible for all of thier careers, I meen shit Dre doesnt walk on water, he helped alot of those guys but hes not responsible for all of their careers lol
he´s not? the only person that had somewhat of a name before fucking with Dre is Xzibit and he was a broke pack rapper before that. all of the other ones owe their careers to Dre, he´s the one that made Eazy start rapping. he brought Cube into N.W.A., he put the entire DPG crew on etc etc.
gotta say he is right, dre put the west on the map and bought together all these artists u cant disagree, even if u hate dre u gotta admit that list shits on all the artists at the top put together
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I dont hate Dre at all, he is one my 2 fav producers ever, but I think sometimes he gets more credit then he should regarding his help to the West Coast
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Snoop Dogg, no doubt. When I think of Snoop and what hes brought, I think Bad Azz, Daz n Kurupt, Tray Deee, Goldie Loc, E White, helped put guys in the spotlight like Warren, Nate, Kokane I know Im forgetting people but you get the point.
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Snoop Dogg, no doubt. When I think of Snoop and what hes brought, I think Bad Azz, Daz n Kurupt, Tray Deee, Goldie Loc, E White, helped put guys in the spotlight like Warren, Nate, Kokane I know Im forgetting people but you get the point.
wtf? warren and nate exploded by themselves with "regulate".. now snoop brought tha eastsidaz, lbc crew, e-white and soopafly to the map
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damn good question.... can't really think... I wanna say 40 or Quik, but then Snoop Dogg has brought a lot to the table, bad and good
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SNOOP DOGG
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Dr. Dre no doubt, Snoop Dogg and Mack 10 wouldn't even be known this days without Dr. Dre... (Mack 10 is known because of Ice Cube who is known because of Dr. Dre) and the same goes for a lot of rappers from the westcoast, without Snoop Dogg a lot of these artists wouldn't eat today, the same goes for Mack 10, Ice Cube, WC, Eazy-E, Warren G, DPG and everyone they brought it the game, without Dr. Dre they couldn't bring noone in the game... Even Tupac some people could say that Dr. Dre got nothing to do with his succes but he got succes because of Death Row and without Dr. Dre there wouldn't be no Death Row 'cause he and Suge started it together..
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Dr. Dre no doubt, Snoop Dogg and Mack 10 wouldn't even be known this days without Dr. Dre... (Mack 10 is known because of Ice Cube who is known because of Dr. Dre) and the same goes for a lot of rappers from the westcoast, without Snoop Dogg a lot of these artists wouldn't eat today, the same goes for Mack 10, Ice Cube, WC, Eazy-E, Warren G, DPG and everyone they brought it the game, without Dr. Dre they couldn't bring noone in the game... Even Tupac some people could say that Dr. Dre got nothing to do with his succes but he got succes because of Death Row and without Dr. Dre there wouldn't be no Death Row 'cause he and Suge started it together..
then without eazy-e, where would be dre and cube?
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um, I think he meant out of the list of rappers you can select on the poll
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SNOOP DOGG
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no Eazy or Dre?..WOW....
Eazy - put NWA, kokane, above the law,black eyed peas,etc.
Dre - put kurupt,daz,snoop,etc.
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Dre - put kurupt,daz,snoop,etc.
Dre got Snoop, but Snoop brought Dre Tha Doggpound
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Dre - put kurupt,daz,snoop,etc.
Dre got Snoop, but Snoop brought Dre Tha Doggpound
Yup
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Snoop Dogg, no doubt. When I think of Snoop and what hes brought, I think Bad Azz, Daz n Kurupt, Tray Deee, Goldie Loc, E White, helped put guys in the spotlight like Warren, Nate, Kokane I know Im forgetting people but you get the point.
wtf? warren and nate exploded by themselves with "regulate".. now snoop brought tha eastsidaz, lbc crew, e-white and soopafly to the map
ever heard of The Chronic? Snoop was with Nate & Warren years before Regulate. Once Dre wanted Snoop all over the Chronic, Snoop brought in Nate, Warren, Daz, Kurupt and Rage with him.
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Suge Knight.
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Suge Knight.
fuck suge
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Out of that list, I'd say DJ Quik...but for ones not on the poll, I'd say Eazy & Dr. Dre... 8)
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this board is fucked up
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Dre - put kurupt,daz,snoop,etc.
Dre got Snoop, but Snoop brought Dre Tha Doggpound
yea and dre made the g-funk sound famous...and still going on today....
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2pac has done more than anybody for anybody, particulary westcoast artists
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If there was a way to go back and edit the poll to include an Other category, I would have...my bad.
LMAO at Mack10 on the list. Its Quik and 40 Easily, I dont believe Snoop is sincere in what hes doing so thats why I picked Quik and 40. And no Dre has not done as much for the west as 40 or Quik, not even close actually
gotta disagree with you on this. Between 97 and 2000, Mack 10 did a lot for up and coming and underground artists. He brought MC Eiht (who nearly signed to No Limit the same time as Snoop) back into the spotlight and also brought CJ Mac out of wherever he was after he dropped his first album. Then he promoted Techniec on pretty much all of the Hoo-Bangin' releases after Dubcc's God Snoop Dogg couldn't do anything with him. Not to mention that if Hoo-Bangin' got more publicity, it could have been the new Death Row. They had the talent and the distribution to blow up big, however it was lack of promotion that killed it.
And I agree, I doubt Snoop is sincere about any of the shit he has said, becuase every time he says this stuff about "west coast unity" and "checking people who use the west coast for their own style", it comes out around the time he starts promoting an album, and on top of that, he'll work with people who exploit the West Coast and ignore artists on the West (See Rhythm and Gangsta). Also, he purposely tanked the 213 and Dogg Pound albums so that he could start promotion on his new albums.
I voted for E-40 because he'll actually allow the young talent to shine, even if they're better than him. He won't hold anyone back because of jealousy.
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like it or not.. snoop dogg
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Where's the choice for Eazy E ???
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If there was a way to go back and edit the poll to include an Other category, I would have...my bad.
I voted for E-40 because he'll actually allow the young talent to shine, even if they're better than him. He won't hold anyone back because of jealousy.
i agree
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DJ Quik, Mack 10, and E-40 are unknown. They haven't done shit for westcoast artists outside of California. Snoop Dogg has took broke rappers nobody has ever heard of on tour with him to other parts of the world, and had the record company pay them, AND HIM, for it. It's not even comparable.
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DJ Quik, Mack 10, and E-40 are unknown. They haven't done shit for westcoast artists outside of California. Snoop Dogg has took broke rappers nobody has ever heard of on tour with him to other parts of the world, and had the record company pay them, AND HIM, for it. It's not even comparable.
E-40 unknown?? LMAO what the hell are you talking about and alot of people not from the west know Mack and Quik also, stupid post
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H-Wood
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Suge Knight.
Suge didnt help em, he killed em.
But I choose Eazy-E
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Suge Knight.
Suge didnt help em, he killed em.
Exactly.
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Dude, good topic, but one thing has to be clarified, Quik did not bring out AMG or Hi-C, those dudes did the majority of there own production, (AMG also discovered & produced female rapper boss) Hi-C actually had a deal before Quik, as well as a hit before Quik had one (I'm not your puppet). Quik initially did not like mausberg as a rapper(Even though we all know he was go blow up like Nitro), he was actually Blak Tones discovery as well as Suga Free. 2nd to none is the only group Quik actually played a major part in. Dont get me wrong, they were all crew, but they had there own individual movement's. Quik has not relly done shit for anybody, and before you Quik fans come with that groupie shit, let me explain. Quik could have had some of the coldest talent on the west-
Bishop Lamont-Passed on him
Young Dre-Passed on him
Spit Fiya-Slept on him
This cat had the head post at Warner and let Jim Jones come take his job. At the time Hi-C had the number 13 record in the country (Let me Know) and Quik aint fuck with him, he went and signed a cat from Louisiana. This dude makes cold ass music, but as far as helping people-please, dont get me started.
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And while you bullshittin Suge did the most. Aint nobody know none of those cats outside of Dre. Like him or not, he made those niggas household names.
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Snoop handsdown..
Chronic and Doggystyle, he brought RBX, Rage, Dogg Pound, Nate Dogg to share his shine. Murder Was The Case is the reason I know DJ Quik, Tray Deee, Swoop G and all the artists featured there, Sam Sneed, etc. And then you follow their solo albums and discover more artist. Snoop put it on the map. He did the same for No Limit Artist but people in the states don't get that that is the biggest dude in rap worldwide. While Biggie and Pac were dissin' Nas they were biggin' Snoop up! Being seen with him helps your career if you're smart about it.
Doggfather put the LBC Crew on there, and once he brought his sound back west he stopped working with DPG coz “Money is thicker than blood”. I say he “Last Mealed” them. But he introduced westcoast producers to the game, Meech Wells, Jelly Roll, Battlecat, LT Hutton, among others.
He worked with more women westcoast rappers than others. At least they can put that on their CV’s if nothing else. There are guys we’ve heard of that we never would have heard of out side of US. He’s a generous dude but no one in hip hop wants to grow up.
Dre don't have to help the Westcoast. In 1996 the Westcoast betrayed Dr.Dre and co-signed what the late great Makaveli was saying.
Also, do you ever think that by working with Eastcoast and other artist Dre is actually proving to the rap industry that the Westcoast beat is superior. That's reppin' if there ever was. Coz eastcoast emulate and playahate, the major artists that is. That's why Wu Tang is quiet, artist are biting the West to sell records. The real east coast style has almost been abandoned, only Nas is doing it East and making an impact.
Even in South Africa we can see it!
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Gotta go for Snoop. He made the West famous back in the Death Row days, and n ow he's trying to bring the West back.
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Snoop Dogg.
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Out of those, it's definately Snoop and for these reasons:
- Snoop has been exposing new people on his albums and projects ever since he started out.
- E-40,DJ Quik and Mack 10 are largely unknowns outside of the USA, or even outside their coast. In all honesty, they couldn't bring shine to their own shoes, much less to anyone besides themselves. When do you actually hear something about E-40's numerous proteges? Never.
- Unlike the others, Snoop appeals to people that do not love westcoast rap, which means he has much more pull.
- Snoop has actually run away with other people's proteges and exposed them to much larger audiences, at least for some time. Need I mention Kokane and Suga Free to prove my point?
- Only when Snoop actually talks about promoting westcoast unity, genuine or not, do people actually get excited which must be saying something.
Oh and to correct a point made twice in this thread, Rage was NOT put on by Snoop. This was actually done by Dre himself. Snoop did revive her career (somewhat) in 2000 though.
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DJ Quik, Mack 10, and E-40 are unknown. They haven't done shit for westcoast artists outside of California. Snoop Dogg has took broke rappers nobody has ever heard of on tour with him to other parts of the world, and had the record company pay them, AND HIM, for it. It's not even comparable.
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People can hate on Snoop all they want but to say he hasn't done anything for the westcoast is ridiculous.
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DJ Quik, Mack 10, and E-40 are unknown. They haven't done shit for westcoast artists outside of California. Snoop Dogg has took broke rappers nobody has ever heard of on tour with him to other parts of the world, and had the record company pay them, AND HIM, for it. It's not even comparable.
E-40 unknown?? LMAO what the hell are you talking about and alot of people not from the west know Mack and Quik also, stupid post
Open your eyes a little bit. You don't sell records and "bring the westcoast back!" by selling to a few black guys on a message board or in the hood. The success they're talking about rolls over into the pop world, which E-40, Mack 10, and DJ Quik have no success in. We're talking in absolutes of course and nothing is, but to compare Snoop's clout with any of those three, or all of those three COMBINED is rediculous. Everybody from children to grandmas know who "Snoop Doggy Dogg" is, so of course he's the one who would 'bring the westcoast back", E40, Quik, and Mack 10 need their OWN charity, and are in no position to help anybody else. Out of the 4, who's never had trouble getting a record deal? Out of the 4, who's signed, to major labels, unknown westcoast cats? Out of the 4, who's actually got records on the shelves of other countries? Can you even get an e-40 album in England, or do you have to order it off Amazon?
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Out of the mentioned group I'ma go with Dj Quik,
I think Ice Cube has done more for the WestCoast post N.W.A & Amerikkka's Most....He brought W.C., MaCC 10, K-Dee, Yo-Yo, Da Lench Mob, Kausion, Mr. Short Khop, Kam, Sir Jinx, Dj Pooh(?), Dj Crazy Toons, as well as the Friday movies which 2 of the 3 were set in SCLA and add the classic album Death Certificate to the list.