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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: i B 2 QUIK 2 c on August 08, 2006, 09:16:00 AM
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as promised... 8)
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PEACE
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Thanx! 8)
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props :P, even if it may not be worth
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Major props!
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Props man, +1
The artcle itself didnt say much of course, its obvious Dre will keep it on a low as long as he can.
Its good to see him say "Im working hard on my shit" though
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Various producers and mcs should shut the fuck up or not being asked about Detox coz it's obvious it's BS... Only person reliable is Dre...
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props 8)
Various producers and mcs should shut the fuck up or not being asked about Detox coz it's obvious it's BS... Only person reliable is Dre...
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props.. good read
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Good read......
I don't know how excited I am knowing that Dre won't be doing as much of the production as I'd hope. At the same time, he might be doing just as much as he did on Chronic, Doggystyle, or 2001, as far as taking other producer's layouts/structures for beats, and then giving them his own touch. And if his name is on it, we know it won't be anything near average. But at the same time, it makes you wonder why it takes SOOOO long when he's able to build off of other producer's songs, versus coming up with most of the ideas on his own.
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anyone wanna field a guess as to who this person dre has been working on records with. sounds like it could be the storch-man.
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I sware on my life his shit aint dropping till 08 if it ever drops, everybody knows hes not sure of himself anymore, why he was hesitant to put out another project...PRESSURE BUST PIPES!!
www.myspace.com/hectic
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Props! 8)
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Good read......
I don't know how excited I am knowing that Dre won't be doing as much of the production as I'd hope. At the same time, he might be doing just as much as he did on Chronic, Doggystyle, or 2001, as far as taking other producer's layouts/structures for beats, and then giving them his own touch. And if his name is on it, we know it won't be anything near average. But at the same time, it makes you wonder why it takes SOOOO long when he's able to build off of other producer's songs, versus coming up with most of the ideas on his own.
kinda like snoop said... the album says "produced by" not "beat thought up by"... any one can think up a creative beat, but dre turns an idea into a masterpiece
a brilliant conductor doesnt need to know how to play every instrument in the orchestra... PEACE
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who knows
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An entertaining read, props for that. But on the real, there's really nothing said in the article we haven't heard. I just hope it's true that he's working hard on his shit.
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Daps for the read.
Im glad he kept scrapping the project up until now.
All those older Detox rejected beats were dope, but he will come with a totally brand new fresh sound.
Take it back to being Original.
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Props 8)
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He needs to work with quik for the production...
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Good read......
I don't know how excited I am knowing that Dre won't be doing as much of the production as I'd hope. At the same time, he might be doing just as much as he did on Chronic, Doggystyle, or 2001, as far as taking other producer's layouts/structures for beats, and then giving them his own touch. And if his name is on it, we know it won't be anything near average. But at the same time, it makes you wonder why it takes SOOOO long when he's able to build off of other producer's songs, versus coming up with most of the ideas on his own.
kinda like snoop said... the album says "produced by" not "beat thought up by"... any one can think up a creative beat, but dre turns an idea into a masterpiece
a brilliant conductor doesnt need to know how to play every instrument in the orchestra... PEACE
That is true....but in this case, I wonder how it works....because Snoop was talking about Warren n Daz, who at the time weren't seasoned producers at all, and their beats may not have been good enough to stand on their own. But in this case, Dre is working with Producers who are proven to be capable of making beats that are 100% solid when they are done with them, so with that, I don't see Dre having to do as much work to make em good, you know? There are some beats from Just Blaze, J.R., and even Scott Storch, that I don't think could be made any better if Dre worked on them from their current form...but possibly, if they gave him a stripped down version, he'd be able to work it.
A good example of what I am talking about is how Dre re-mixed DJ Quik's "Addictive". If the original version had never dropped, and Quik just did that beat and gave it to Dre to do what he wanted and he came up with that remix as the real version, it would not have helped the beat at all. Quik's version sounded complete as it was, and it sounded like Dre just threw a couple of his signature sounds on there to have his feel to it...but it was really an unneccesary remix in my opinion.
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^^^ good points, but i think that even the most solid beat can always be tweeked, perfection is impossible to achieve in something so subjective as music... obviously, dre is not going to just sign his name to a beat that isnt his... he has a distinctive "sound" that will make him want to overhaul an entire track that most would consider bangin in order to put his own stamp on it... basically, he set the bar high with his last two solo lp's and he is going to use Detox in order to revolutionize rap music like he did after 2001 --- to produce a sound we never heard before...
i mean just blaze isnt really ground-breaking... to a lesser degree you can say the same about storch... also, these guys arent in a position where they can put everything on hold to change rap music history...
such a task is too much for any individual... thats why i think dre is accepting input from A-list producers... still, someone has to be the head chief among all the chiefs in the tribe, and that person is dre
peace
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big propz. How was the running beat gonna end on detox its trash
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I'm real pleased to hear Hi-Tek supposedly being involved, at least there's one I really like
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good article but wtf is with having jay z write about cali life for you? thats kinda bitchmade
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I'm real pleased to hear Hi-Tek supposedly being involved, at least there's one I really like
what? u dont like focus? all his beats are real nice
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got nothin against him, I'm just sayin I really like Hi-Tek's shit
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good article but wtf is with having jay z write about cali life for you? thats kinda bitchmade
Old story... But yeah, it's kinda weird. Worked out well in the end though, didn't it? And that's really what matters.
Didn't Jigga write a completely different song at first? And Dre told him to change it? Am I remembering shit right or am I making this shit up in my head?
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Dre's tha man!
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props for the scans
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Some people think that being a producer is the same as composing a beat from scratch. It isn't the same thing. It helps to have some musical understanding and a crew of talent to help you acheive your vision. Bringing that all together is the real genius. when you look at the end product he's made from his electro beat days in wrecking crew to his platinum singles for diverse artists all over, the man deserves his props. He invented the whole rap with an R&B hook thing. He took the grime out of a hip hop beat and still made it sound gangsta. He spawned a list of legendary artists and producers who learned under him. Maybe you have to actually produce and/or make beats to fully understand why he is the greatest of his time.
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Thanx 4 the scans!!!
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props on this. not alot of new information but still a cool article
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good article but wtf is with having jay z write about cali life for you? thats kinda bitchmade
Old story... But yeah, it's kinda weird. Worked out well in the end though, didn't it? And that's really what matters.
Didn't Jigga write a completely different song at first? And Dre told him to change it? Am I remembering shit right or am I making this shit up in my head?
You're not making it up. In a article with the now defunct magazine Blaze, Dre said that Jay Z first wrote a song talkin about bentleys and shit, and Dre told him people in LA drive lowriders not bentleys and then Jay wrote the song over again. Dre and Snoop were on the cover of the magazine, and if my memory is correct Snoop was wearing a shower cap like Bizarre from D-12 alwayz wears.
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Damn guys, I think I unearthed a Detox beat (and I'm sure others of you have heard this song but haven't found the connection).
Well, as we know from this article and JR interviews, JR sold a beat to Dre back before Game's album came out. This is an excerpt from an interview with him:
MVRemix: Can you tell us about the track Dre took from you for Detox? Because fans are going to want to know about that one.
JR: It was a crazy track! It is definitely a hot track, but it was in a lot of peoples hands before Dre's. It was first taken by a white rapper on Dreamworks by the name of Vicious, and we put Sticky Fingaz and Fredo Star on the track. But one of Dre's artists at the time, Joe Beast, he heard the beat and wanted it for his album. My manager Zach was managing Joe at the time. So he took it, and Dre ended up hearing it and wanted it for his album Detox. So Dre took it, laid vocals on it, and it came out amazing! But at the time, he put Detox down to work on Game's album. The track was then slid over towards Game, and they put Busta on the hook. Unfortunately, the track didn't make the final cut for Game's album, so now its still with Aftermath. But Dre sounded incredible on it!
MVRemix: What is the overall vibe of this beat?
JR: It sounds like some new shit, to be honest with you. I don't want to toot my own horn, but it had a crazy, I don't want to say Middle Eastern, but sort of a futuristic Indian kind of vibe. But the song is crazy!
A while back, I downloaded some "Vishiss" tracks, one of which happened to have Fredro Starr and Sticky Fingazz on it produced by JR. It's called FLATDAFUCCOUT...I upped it to yousendit: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=304A342A5740F7AD
The beat pretty much matches up with JR's description as it's very futuristic and aggressive. I took a closer listen, and in my opinion that beat is hard as hell.
So what do you guys think...was this the beat that Dre bought and rapped over??
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Thanks for the track, this definetly could be the track although it doesnt have that specific Indian sound to it.
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interesting article
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That JR beat is horrible. props though 8)
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That's what I thought at first listen. I think it's mostly due to the low quality mix of the track. But take a closer listen, there are definitely some experimental elements in there, I could totally see something in this vein popping up on Detox. It's really aggressive, and with Dre rapping over it it would sound better.
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Damn guys, I think I unearthed a Detox beat (and I'm sure others of you have heard this song but haven't found the connection).
Well, as we know from this article and JR interviews, JR sold a beat to Dre back before Game's album came out. This is an excerpt from an interview with him:
MVRemix: Can you tell us about the track Dre took from you for Detox? Because fans are going to want to know about that one.
JR: It was a crazy track! It is definitely a hot track, but it was in a lot of peoples hands before Dre's. It was first taken by a white rapper on Dreamworks by the name of Vicious, and we put Sticky Fingaz and Fredo Star on the track. But one of Dre's artists at the time, Joe Beast, he heard the beat and wanted it for his album. My manager Zach was managing Joe at the time. So he took it, and Dre ended up hearing it and wanted it for his album Detox. So Dre took it, laid vocals on it, and it came out amazing! But at the time, he put Detox down to work on Game's album. The track was then slid over towards Game, and they put Busta on the hook. Unfortunately, the track didn't make the final cut for Game's album, so now its still with Aftermath. But Dre sounded incredible on it!
MVRemix: What is the overall vibe of this beat?
JR: It sounds like some new shit, to be honest with you. I don't want to toot my own horn, but it had a crazy, I don't want to say Middle Eastern, but sort of a futuristic Indian kind of vibe. But the song is crazy!
A while back, I downloaded some "Vishiss" tracks, one of which happened to have Fredro Starr and Sticky Fingazz on it produced by JR. It's called FLATDAFUCCOUT...I upped it to yousendit: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=304A342A5740F7AD
The beat pretty much matches up with JR's description as it's very futuristic and aggressive. I took a closer listen, and in my opinion that beat is hard as hell.
So what do you guys think...was this the beat that Dre bought and rapped over??
Cheers for the hookup and can def feel wot u sayin bout this track and the description, it doesnt realli have a major indian feel to it but there is a bit of an middle eastern feel to it over the chorus. Once again cheers for the hookup and i think u cud b rite, props for lookin out !
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Fuck those other producers Dr. Dre needs to work on the album by himself since its his fucking album. No disrespect to those producers thats just what i think.
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Fuck those other producers Dr. Dre needs to work on the album by himself since its his fucking album. No disrespect to those producers thats just what i think.
Thats how Dre works the other producers are gonna make the beats and Dre iz gonna add shit to em and Say he produced it . I wonder who's gonna write Dre's Lyrics for this one ???
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Nice scans man. +1.