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Title: You know hiphop is fucked up when............
Post by: teecee on August 15, 2006, 11:07:53 PM
Lil Wayne outshines Andre, Big Boi, and Snoop on Hollywood Divorce.  Think about the flow Snoop once possesed, and the rhymes AND flow Outkast had...........and think how wack Lil Wayne was even two years ago. 

I don't give a fuck if Lil Wayne has a ghostwriter, bottom line is his FLOW on Hollywood Divorce is the best i have heard all year, as much as it pains me to say it.  Damn, he even has me listening to his verse over and over again, this is fucking ridiculous.  Wayne was literally probably one of the worst emcee's in the game in like 2000.  I haven't checked any of his albums, but if his recent shit is actually diope, what should i check out?
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Post by: youngmessnucca on August 15, 2006, 11:16:21 PM
The last 2 Carter album are the shit. I'm not big on his voice and delievery, but Wayne is one of the best out there, and there is no denying it.
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Post by: Sikotic™ on August 15, 2006, 11:18:07 PM
I know what you mean. I HATED Wayne. Couldn't stand him in the late 90's. My opinion started changing after hearing The Carter. I realized this guy actually has some talent. Hollywood Divorce solidifies my feelings about the guy now. I heard some of The Carter II and there's some nice stuff too.

I recommend you listen to his last 2 albums.
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Post by: Turf Hitta on August 16, 2006, 12:22:06 AM
I know what you mean. I HATED Wayne. Couldn't stand him in the late 90's. My opinion started changing after hearing The Carter. I realized this guy actually has some talent.

Yup. I first listened to Tha Carter expecting to hear some bullshit, and all of a sudden I couldnt believe what I was hearing. At this point in his career, he is better than about 95% of the rappers out there
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Post by: Meho on August 16, 2006, 12:55:24 AM
Dunno why this is "fucked up" its nice to see a rapper actually improving with time, which Lil Wayne definetly did.
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Post by: Bojakabo on August 16, 2006, 12:59:14 AM
dope verse..but i think alla the verses are good on the song, hmm okey..not snoop doggs..but its "okey", good to be a snoop verse nowadays ;)
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Post by: wcsoldier on August 16, 2006, 01:08:20 AM
Well don't know what's wrong, Weezy has improved (I'm not into his music at all) but I guess he kinda fucked up himself by spitting horrible verses on mainstream tracks like Destiny Child one and Chris Brown one..
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Post by: truedupbluedup on August 16, 2006, 01:37:51 AM
Lil Wayne is a great lyricist, he just from the south so people just assume he cant rap, but i think he used to be kind of annoying, now i like listening to him a whole lot more.
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Post by: Sweet & Tender Hooligan on August 16, 2006, 01:50:31 AM
Lil Wayne = Best rapper alive. Finally people realizing this......


 got the game on ball and chain
I threw the key in the train
I'm like a key in a drought
I spent a G on these frames, though my vision is priceless
Seeing through you niggaz like a fuckin psychic
Hearing through the grapevine, niggaz wanna hate mine
Say my name and die in the daytime
You catch my drift, man you better be Peyton
Boy the heats on, they make a peace bond
I'm in this bitch, throwing up the seventeenth sign
Straight frowns, no daps, strapped three times
A Tec-11, AK 47, one Beretta, ready for whatever
Tell them pussy niggaz come together
Heavy wetter, nigga super soaker wetter, nigga
Six feet under flowers, you ain't nothing but a petal nigga
I'm just a little nigga, trying to be a civil nigga
Thirty years old, shit that'll be a given nigga
Quit it Wayne, your Mom is listenin
But she ain't really trippin, 'cause the pots is pissed in
Them niggaz trippin, unitl the shots whistling'
Hear them bullets sizzle, like a cobra at attention
I gotta bitch, and quit callin women bitches
As long as she don't worry 'bout the coke in the kitchen
No preventing the grind, I gotta get it
I'm admitted to the game, true playa, no quittin
There you go shittin on a way a nigga thinkin
Only history I know is Benjamin Franklin
Since the future aint promised to no one
I live everyday like this is the sure one
Train in the tidal wave, this is the ocean
Stand in the heat, 'til the mother fuckin snow come
And it feels so fuckin good
Throw my dope like a rope, let them tug and pull
No hope for the hopeless, rats and roaches
Runnin cross the porch, in the attic there's a fortune
Come and get it, automatics in motion
We bangin for the bread nigga, even the molded
I got my loaf, I got my toast
Chaperone of the south, I got my coast. Yea
And untill I die I'm Da. Da Da Da Da. Da BEST RAPPER ALIVE
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Post by: ABN on August 16, 2006, 03:15:32 AM
Wayne´s still extremely overrated IMO. people make him out to be this super lyricist but he´s not. he has improved since the Hot Boys days but he got an extremely long way to go before he should be mentioned with the greats.
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Post by: Elevz on August 16, 2006, 03:21:46 AM
Lil Wayne = Best rapper alive. Finally people realizing this......

Heavy wetter, nigga super soaker wetter, nigga

Is he a close friend of Juelz and Cam'ron?
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Post by: XaNdEr on August 16, 2006, 06:17:03 AM
Dunno why this is "fucked up" its nice to see a rapper actually improving with time, which Lil Wayne definetly did.


props for saying that man, its exactly what i think too....everyone saying many rappers, and hiphop in general, is falling off (check the dpg-, g-unit- and whatever other threads) its good to see at least some rappers improving themselves

and all y'all saying wayne is wack are just hating, i suggest u go cop his last 2 albums and listen....then we continue this  ;)
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Post by: ωεεźγ ғ on August 16, 2006, 11:11:27 AM
So many doubt 'cause I come from the South
But when I open up my mouth, all bullets come out
Bang! Die bitch nigga die I hope you bleed a lake
I'ma play x-ray, helpin' y'all see the fake
I'm just tryin' to be the great, tryin' to get a piece of cake
Take it offa your plate, eat it right in your face
They got a whole lot to say but I don't listen
Call me automatic Weezy bitch I keep spittin',
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Post by: Diabolical on August 16, 2006, 11:42:12 AM
Best rapper alive = my ass.

ffs




I like him, always have.
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Post by: Minkaveli on August 16, 2006, 11:45:48 AM
He has improved a lot.  Does he use a ghostrider though??
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Post by: Turf Hitta on August 16, 2006, 02:10:21 PM
Wayne´s still extremely overrated IMO. people make him out to be this super lyricist but he´s not.

 Hmm, if you listened to Tha Carter and still say he's not a good lyricist, chances are are great deal of what he said flew over your head. Just listen to Birdman Jr. One of the hardest most lyrical songs of the last 5 years, easily.
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Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 16, 2006, 02:41:25 PM
I actually thought Wayne's early work was pretty decent...I guess that's what he's always been...Decent...PeACe
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Post by: Jome on August 16, 2006, 02:54:56 PM
He improved no doubt, but I still think he's wack, must be the voice.
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Post by: BigBDrugStores on August 16, 2006, 03:03:59 PM
the only wack album imo was 500 degreez. he tried to prove he didnt need juve bg and turk and kinda failed. wich was weird because the few sq tapes befor 500 were crack and all of the ones that followed were crack.  and i doubt he has a ghostwriter, he just releases too much metirial to have a writer.
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Post by: jeromechickenbone on August 16, 2006, 03:28:09 PM
I think Wayne is one of the most overated cats out.  Just cuz he's says he's the greatest rapper alive or has the greatest flow in america doesn't mean it's true.  He can come with a slick metaphor or punchline here or there, and he's got a swagger / confidence about him but that's where it ends for me.  It's not a coincidence that Dipset fans love Wayne - he's basically a southern version of Camron, except with a shitty annoying voice.

And for the record, I thought Andre and Big Boi were the highlights of that song.  Weezy was decent, Snoop was ass.
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Post by: Narrator on August 16, 2006, 06:21:29 PM
It's not a coincidence that Dipset fans love Wayne - he's basically a southern version of Camron, except with a shitty annoying voice.

I like Wayne and hate Dipset (well, mostly the fans...)

There's definitely nothing wrong with that.  Weezy has in fact become an ill lyricist.  The first "Carter" was overrated, but on the 2nd, I finally started to appreciate how dope he is now.  I agree his voice can be kinda annoying, but given how clever and smooth-flowing he's become these days, I can overlook that.  If y'all think Weezy is wack, you don't know what you're missing...no, he shouldn't call himself the "Best Rapper Alive", but mark my words, dude gon be on top of the game in another couple years.
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Post by: Doggystylin on August 16, 2006, 06:54:25 PM
thats exactly what i was thinking teecee, but i actually dont mind andre's singing on this one
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Post by: BigBDrugStores on August 16, 2006, 07:00:30 PM
did you know that there are 5 planned album in the carter series?
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Post by: GangstaBoogy on August 16, 2006, 09:30:54 PM
I know what you mean. I HATED Wayne. Couldn't stand him in the late 90's. My opinion started changing after hearing The Carter. I realized this guy actually has some talent. Hollywood Divorce solidifies my feelings about the guy now. I heard some of The Carter II and there's some nice stuff too.

I recommend you listen to his last 2 albums.

yeah i couldn't stand him. i actually just gave him a chance earlier this year and ended up buying "The Carter 2".
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Post by: teecee on August 16, 2006, 10:32:18 PM
I think Wayne is one of the most overated cats out.  Just cuz he's says he's the greatest rapper alive or has the greatest flow in america doesn't mean it's true.  He can come with a slick metaphor or punchline here or there, and he's got a swagger / confidence about him but that's where it ends for me.  It's not a coincidence that Dipset fans love Wayne - he's basically a southern version of Camron, except with a shitty annoying voice.

And for the record, I thought Andre and Big Boi were the highlights of that song.  Weezy was decent, Snoop was ass.


Well, i am a HUGE Outkast fan, but i'll call it how i see, er, how i hear it, and Wayne really shines on this song.  Of course he isn't the greatest rapper alive, but man, he really sounded nice on this song.  It's weird, i've always found hsi voice annoying as well, but i thought he sounded really dope on this Hollywood Divorce song, not annoying like usual.........