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Title: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: wcsoldier on August 18, 2006, 02:22:07 AM
Start tomorrow, le'ts discuss results, favorites...
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: akcranker - The Dangerous Crew Movement on August 18, 2006, 03:44:07 AM
Man I wish I had cable.. I haven't seen a single game yet.  When's the next game?  I might try and go over to a friends house to watch it.  When does the World Championships start?
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: wcsoldier on August 18, 2006, 04:01:13 AM
Man I wish I had cable.. I haven't seen a single game yet.  When's the next game?  I might try and go over to a friends house to watch it.  When does the World Championships start?
Start Saturday, well Japan time is 13 ahead E.T time so basically USA-Porto Rico is at 1.am this night for u americans.. Here is the schedule http://usabasketball.com/seniormen/2006/06_mwc_schedule.html
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: akcranker - The Dangerous Crew Movement on August 18, 2006, 10:26:56 AM
Thanks wcsoldier... if that's 1am EST then that's perfect for me because it would be 9PM here in Alaska.
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 18, 2006, 10:40:42 AM
Should be interesting, though I wont be watching as closely (no Odom or Kobe :-\)...PeACe
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: PLANT on August 18, 2006, 12:38:52 PM
Ill be watching....  Ive seen all the US games so far.  They look pretty dope, Im kinda suprised they've been playing this well.
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 18, 2006, 12:41:43 PM
Ill be watching....  Ive seen all the US games so far.  They look pretty dope, Im kinda suprised they've been playing this well.


^^You heard about Bosh making the final roster today?
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: PLANT on August 18, 2006, 12:52:44 PM
Ill be watching....  Ive seen all the US games so far.  They look pretty dope, Im kinda suprised they've been playing this well.


^^You heard about Bosh making the final roster today?
ya I was just reading that from nba.com

Im not suprised he made it tho, he looked good on the court during the exibition games.
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 18, 2006, 02:35:49 PM
Anthony, James and Wade will apparently be named Captains Of Team USA...
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: wcsoldier on August 19, 2006, 12:06:52 AM
US won 111-100 against Puerto Rico
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 19, 2006, 02:39:59 AM
^^Melo has really been holding his own with LeBron, and outplaying Wade... :-X
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Sparegeez on August 20, 2006, 04:37:17 PM
USA beat China. And guess who was the lead scorer... Wade. Why do Laker fans hate him so much?
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 20, 2006, 04:42:13 PM
USA beat China. And guess who was the lead scorer... Wade. Why do Laker fans hate him so much?


Laker fans don't hate him so much, it's just upsetting to see some morons actually believing he's on Kobe's level...PeACe
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Sparegeez on August 20, 2006, 06:09:13 PM
USA beat China. And guess who was the lead scorer... Wade. Why do Laker fans hate him so much?


Laker fans don't hate him so much, it's just upsetting to see some morons actually believing he's on Kobe's level...PeACe

Kobe is still the best in the NBA IMO, but Wade could develop into the best. He has potentiol of becoming better than Kobe.
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 20, 2006, 06:45:16 PM
USA beat China. And guess who was the lead scorer... Wade. Why do Laker fans hate him so much?


Laker fans don't hate him so much, it's just upsetting to see some morons actually believing he's on Kobe's level...PeACe

Kobe is still the best in the NBA IMO, but Wade could develop into the best. He has potentiol of becoming better than Kobe.


Yea, and Gerald Green has potential to be better than Wade, what's your point?
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Sparegeez on August 20, 2006, 07:36:19 PM
USA beat China. And guess who was the lead scorer... Wade. Why do Laker fans hate him so much?


Laker fans don't hate him so much, it's just upsetting to see some morons actually believing he's on Kobe's level...PeACe

Kobe is still the best in the NBA IMO, but Wade could develop into the best. He has potentiol of becoming better than Kobe.


Yea, and Gerald Green has potential to be better than Wade, what's your point?

ummm.... stop hating on Wade?  :-X
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 20, 2006, 11:17:13 PM
USA beat China. And guess who was the lead scorer... Wade. Why do Laker fans hate him so much?


Laker fans don't hate him so much, it's just upsetting to see some morons actually believing he's on Kobe's level...PeACe

Kobe is still the best in the NBA IMO, but Wade could develop into the best. He has potentiol of becoming better than Kobe.


Yea, and Gerald Green has potential to be better than Wade, what's your point?

ummm.... stop hating on Wade?  :-X


How am I hating, genius? Please stay out of basketball discussion if you don't watch...PeACe
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Antonio_ on August 21, 2006, 05:42:49 AM
GO ITALY!!!
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: wcsoldier on August 21, 2006, 05:45:55 AM
GO FRANCE !!!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Don Jacob on August 21, 2006, 03:12:28 PM
^this ain't world cup fellas
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Nutty on August 21, 2006, 03:23:31 PM
World cup.........of bball, lol.

They've only been showing the NZ games here, they've been disappointing so far.

I hope they show the finals!
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: 7even on August 23, 2006, 03:16:43 PM
Germany has no chance of winning it  >:(
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: wcsoldier on August 24, 2006, 01:00:56 AM
^this ain't world cup fellas
Italy and France are good teams of B-Ball , lol at your poor knowledge of International game.. Italy destroyed the US in a friendly game in 04 by 17 pts.. and just lost by 9 yersterday ...
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Don Jacob on August 24, 2006, 02:14:26 AM
^this ain't world cup fellas
Italy and France are good teams of B-Ball , lol at your poor knowledge of International game.. Italy destroyed the US in a friendly game in 04 by 17 pts.. and just lost by 9 yersterday ...

again this ain't world cup fellas, The US ain't going to tie with Italy and drop out of the competition
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: wcsoldier on August 24, 2006, 02:51:56 AM
^this ain't world cup fellas
Italy and France are good teams of B-Ball , lol at your poor knowledge of International game.. Italy destroyed the US in a friendly game in 04 by 17 pts.. and just lost by 9 yersterday ...

again this ain't world cup fellas, The US ain't going to tie with Italy and drop out of the competition
again you are wrong by thinking only Team USA can play B-Ball on this earth..
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Antonio_ on August 24, 2006, 03:23:44 AM
^this ain't world cup fellas
Italy and France are good teams of B-Ball , lol at your poor knowledge of International game.. Italy destroyed the US in a friendly game in 04 by 17 pts.. and just lost by 9 yersterday ...

again this ain't world cup fellas, The US ain't going to tie with Italy and drop out of the competition

Just to let you know in the last international competition (Athens 2004) Italy arrived 2nd, and USA 3rd. Now you know it. ;D
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: 7even on August 24, 2006, 04:42:13 AM
what a game by dirk today  :o :o :o :o :o

I got hope again  ;D
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Nutty on August 24, 2006, 06:55:34 AM
Funny saying this isn't the world cup, when it basically is a world cup of sort.

Juss heard New Zealand came back to beat Japan and had another close encounter w/ Panama. Goooo the Tall Blacks....pity they didn't fire in their first 3 games.
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Don Jacob on August 26, 2006, 01:03:24 PM
^this ain't world cup fellas
Italy and France are good teams of B-Ball , lol at your poor knowledge of International game.. Italy destroyed the US in a friendly game in 04 by 17 pts.. and just lost by 9 yersterday ...

again this ain't world cup fellas, The US ain't going to tie with Italy and drop out of the competition

Just to let you know in the last international competition (Athens 2004) Italy arrived 2nd, and USA 3rd. Now you know it. ;D

yeah and it's 2006 and Italy just lost to lithuania just to let you know  ;)
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: 7even on August 27, 2006, 06:43:26 AM
This Wednesday Team USA is going to play Germany  8)
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Nutty on August 27, 2006, 06:51:33 AM
Just saw the replay of the USA/Aussie game......USA look quite good
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: wcsoldier on August 29, 2006, 08:57:59 AM
Argentina and Spain have great teams, this semifinal should be off the hook
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 29, 2006, 11:46:25 AM
Is it me, or is Melo proving that he's as good, if not better than Wade and LeBron in this tournament? NBA marketing sucks, but what sucks worse is fans who eat it up...PeACe
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: DipsetGeneral on August 29, 2006, 12:26:05 PM
Melo has been the best player on the team so far, but hes still not better than Wade or LB
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 29, 2006, 12:35:35 PM
Melo has been the best player on the team so far, but hes still not better than Wade or LB


I think all their skills are about even, with Wade being a little behind...But Wade and LeBron simply get the push that Melo doesn't...That's why NBA marketing sucks, and that's why MJ will probably always be considered the greatest, he was simply there at the right time, when marketing took off...PeACe
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: DipsetGeneral on August 29, 2006, 12:37:48 PM
Melo has been the best player on the team so far, but hes still not better than Wade or LB


I think all their skills are about even, with Wade being a little behind...But Wade and LeBron simply get the push that Melo doesn't...That's why NBA marketing sucks, and that's why MJ will probably always be considered the greatest, he was simply there at the right time, when marketing took off...PeACe
Ok I agree NBA marketing is BULLSHIT.  And I agree alot of time Wade gets away with murder but still Melo isnt quie as good as them.  He's damn close though and he has really elevated his game.
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 29, 2006, 12:48:44 PM
Melo has been the best player on the team so far, but hes still not better than Wade or LB


I think all their skills are about even, with Wade being a little behind...But Wade and LeBron simply get the push that Melo doesn't...That's why NBA marketing sucks, and that's why MJ will probably always be considered the greatest, he was simply there at the right time, when marketing took off...PeACe
Ok I agree NBA marketing is BULLSHIT.  And I agree alot of time Wade gets away with murder but still Melo isnt quie as good as them.  He's damn close though and he has really elevated his game.


Why is Carmelo playing at a higher level then? What makes LeBron and Wade better? Seeing them shoved in your face all the time? Carmelo has the same ability, plus he's a lot more clutch than they are..All I'm saying is that the NBA markets Wade and LeBron a lot stronger, making it seem to the average consumer that they are in a league of their own, when really, it's not the case...You can make an argument for all of them as to why they're the best of the 3, but because of marketing (probably due to Carmelo's history with trouble), Wade and LeBron are considered the next GOATS, while Carmelo struggles to make the all-star squad...Do you not see my point?
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Don Jacob on August 29, 2006, 01:08:18 PM
IMO  it goes like this in overall skill and leadership


1. wade
2. Melo
3. lebron
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 29, 2006, 01:21:34 PM
IMO  it goes like this in overall skill and leadership


1. wade
2. Melo
3. lebron



Sorry, man, Wade has the LEAST skill of the three, especially on the defensive end...And don't get me started on inside-outside game...PeACe
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Don Jacob on August 29, 2006, 10:39:26 PM
IMO  it goes like this in overall skill and leadership


1. wade
2. Melo
3. lebron
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: wcsoldier on August 29, 2006, 11:06:48 PM
Melo outplays them coz unlike Wade and Bron, he has a solid outside shot ... I always think FIBA game was useful to judge if a NBA player was overrated or not, I have my answer  8)
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: ecrazy on August 30, 2006, 04:50:06 AM
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Download the TVU PLAYER AND ENJOY!
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Don Jacob on August 30, 2006, 01:43:05 PM
Goodbye Germany, your ethinic clensing didin't work . ;)
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Nutty on August 30, 2006, 01:46:20 PM
Melo outplays them coz unlike Wade and Bron, he has a solid outside shot ... I always think FIBA game was useful to judge if a NBA player was overrated or not, I have my answer  8)

Wasn't he cold from everywhere at the last champs? or was it the olympics. I muss admit, he has the hot hand right now
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: 7even on August 30, 2006, 04:49:42 PM
In international basketball (FIBA) the ability to hit ranged jump shots is much more important than in the NBA, because in the NBA the field is bigger and the zone is bigger and you can make a first step before you dribble the ball, which makes penetrating and slashing much more convenient... it's not that easy in FIBA games, therefore teams have to rely on jump shots more, especially against zone defense. the 3pt line is also much nearer to the basket than in the NBA which makes 3pts / shooting more attractive. so in a nutshell one big reason why lebron and wade get outplayed by anthony is the fact that anthony has a hotter hand right now, doesn't mean he's the better player, pz

that's also why I said that it sucks for the US that Redd isn't going with them and everybody went on my nuts for it. I bet my ass that a Redd/Allen type of player would look better than LeBron and Wade as well, (if he's in shape and all, of course)... and we all know that Redd is far from being as special as Wade and LeBron are.
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 30, 2006, 04:56:59 PM
In international basketball (FIBA) the ability to hit ranged jump shots is much more important than in the NBA, because in the NBA the field is bigger and the zone is bigger and you can make a first step before you dribble the ball, which makes penetrating and slashing much more convenient... it's not that easy in FIBA games, therefore teams have to rely on jump shots more, especially against zone defense. the 3pt line is also much nearer to the basket than in the NBA which makes 3pts / shooting more attractive. so in a nutshell one big reason why lebron and wade get outplayed by anthony is the fact that anthony has a hotter hand right now, doesn't mean he's the better player, pz

that's also why I said that it sucks for the US that Redd isn't going with them and everybody went on my nuts for it. I bet my ass that a Redd/Allen type of player would look better than LeBron and Wade as well, (if he's in shape and all, of course)... and we all know that Redd is far from being as special as Wade and LeBron are.


You're full of shit, as if the US has to adjust to the European style of play more than the Europeans have to adjust to the American style of play...Someone like Kobe woulda' been a perfect balance...PeACe
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: 7even on August 30, 2006, 04:59:00 PM
In international basketball (FIBA) the ability to hit ranged jump shots is much more important than in the NBA, because in the NBA the field is bigger and the zone is bigger and you can make a first step before you dribble the ball, which makes penetrating and slashing much more convenient... it's not that easy in FIBA games, therefore teams have to rely on jump shots more, especially against zone defense. the 3pt line is also much nearer to the basket than in the NBA which makes 3pts / shooting more attractive. so in a nutshell one big reason why lebron and wade get outplayed by anthony is the fact that anthony has a hotter hand right now, doesn't mean he's the better player, pz

that's also why I said that it sucks for the US that Redd isn't going with them and everybody went on my nuts for it. I bet my ass that a Redd/Allen type of player would look better than LeBron and Wade as well, (if he's in shape and all, of course)... and we all know that Redd is far from being as special as Wade and LeBron are.


You're full of shit, as if the US has to adjust to the European style of play more than the Europeans have to adjust to the American style of play...Someone like Kobe woulda' been a perfect balance...PeACe

what does kobe or adjusting to the NBA style have to do with anything?
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 30, 2006, 05:01:43 PM
In international basketball (FIBA) the ability to hit ranged jump shots is much more important than in the NBA, because in the NBA the field is bigger and the zone is bigger and you can make a first step before you dribble the ball, which makes penetrating and slashing much more convenient... it's not that easy in FIBA games, therefore teams have to rely on jump shots more, especially against zone defense. the 3pt line is also much nearer to the basket than in the NBA which makes 3pts / shooting more attractive. so in a nutshell one big reason why lebron and wade get outplayed by anthony is the fact that anthony has a hotter hand right now, doesn't mean he's the better player, pz

that's also why I said that it sucks for the US that Redd isn't going with them and everybody went on my nuts for it. I bet my ass that a Redd/Allen type of player would look better than LeBron and Wade as well, (if he's in shape and all, of course)... and we all know that Redd is far from being as special as Wade and LeBron are.


You're full of shit, as if the US has to adjust to the European style of play more than the Europeans have to adjust to the American style of play...Someone like Kobe woulda' been a perfect balance...PeACe

what does kobe or adjusting to the NBA style have to do with anything?

You're making it seem like Redd and Allen would be better against international teams just because of their better shooting...Well, Wade and LeBron still have the physical skill advantage, which is what has made the US so succesful in international play all these years...That's why I'm saying Kobe would be the perfect balance, he can shoot, defend, AND has that superior physical ability...PeACe
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: 7even on August 30, 2006, 05:15:52 PM
Kobe would definitely be better than Wade or LeBron in FIBA games, no question but the thing is that even a person like Kyle Korver would be great if he has a hot hand, slashing/penetrating is not so easy in FIBA games, especially against zone defense. Of course Wade and LeBron can still do it now and then cause they are much, much better and athletic than most of their opponents. But if one looks at how Anthony got his points Im sure one gon find out that most of them were jump shots. Against Germany the Team USA was quite terrible from the 3pt line at times, but they forced turnovers and dominated the offensive board so ruthlessly that the missed shots didn't hurt them too much.

Now, against weaker opponents you can still win despite not having a hot shooter or the greatest team chemistry because of individual athleticism and talent alone. But I think it can be tough against Argentina or Spain if you don't knock down the jump shots and rely on athletic penetrating and slashing.
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Antonio_ on August 30, 2006, 05:26:06 PM
In international basketball (FIBA) the ability to hit ranged jump shots is much more important than in the NBA, because in the NBA the field is bigger and the zone is bigger and you can make a first step before you dribble the ball, which makes penetrating and slashing much more convenient... it's not that easy in FIBA games, therefore teams have to rely on jump shots more, especially against zone defense. the 3pt line is also much nearer to the basket than in the NBA which makes 3pts / shooting more attractive. so in a nutshell one big reason why lebron and wade get outplayed by anthony is the fact that anthony has a hotter hand right now, doesn't mean he's the better player, pz

that's also why I said that it sucks for the US that Redd isn't going with them and everybody went on my nuts for it. I bet my ass that a Redd/Allen type of player would look better than LeBron and Wade as well, (if he's in shape and all, of course)... and we all know that Redd is far from being as special as Wade and LeBron are.
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: PLANT on August 30, 2006, 05:45:26 PM
you guys see how well Bosh is playing now that hes getting minutes......finally
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: wcsoldier on August 31, 2006, 01:01:43 AM
Team USA better step it up , if not they're going to be in trouble.. The 3 others teams remaining are on another level... I still think Argentina and Spain have a good chance to beat them
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Don Jacob on August 31, 2006, 03:14:52 AM
i got to admit i'm starting to worry now
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Antonio_ on August 31, 2006, 04:29:15 AM
Team USA better step it up
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Nutty on August 31, 2006, 06:35:28 AM
Wow, France pipped Germany
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: wcsoldier on August 31, 2006, 10:55:32 AM
^^^ Yep Gomis hit a dope three.. playing for the fifth place is not bad , considering our best player didn't play (Parker).. With all these young talented players, we got a great future..
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: 187Proof on August 31, 2006, 01:40:14 PM
I called from the very start that team USA will not lose a game this entire tournament.....people are starting to say that the remaining teams are on the same level, if not better than team USA. So with that said, I'm asking for anyone to put their money where their mouth is......throw out any dollar figure and we'll bet through PayPal. Mark my words, team USA will not lose.
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Nutty on August 31, 2006, 03:06:07 PM
^^^ Yep Gomis hit a dope three.. playing for the fifth place is not bad , considering our best player didn't play (Parker).. With all these young talented players, we got a great future..

Oh I dunno, a good team would juss eat them up. They gave away dumb fouls, did you see the foul they committed at the end of the 3rd qtr (I think), beyond the 3pt line w/ the buzzer about to sound? Thas the dumbest shit I've ever seen, lol.

But hey, they did enough and played to the whistle and came away w/ the win, can't bag them for that, :)
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: ecrazy on September 01, 2006, 01:41:00 AM
WOW, Greece is winning, and tearing it up at the moment, im getting worried
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: ecrazy on September 01, 2006, 02:22:41 AM
WOW
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: wcsoldier on September 01, 2006, 02:43:09 AM
Lol at Team USA gettin destroyed by Greece... Wade and James are the future ?  :-X. Who can play defense in this team ? Nobody outside Battier. I'm glad for these so called experts who said it's better to have the new generation as leaders than Kobe  :-X. Kobe would take over this game and win it by himself.. the "homos" team destroy USA   :D
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: wcsoldier on September 01, 2006, 02:43:50 AM
I called from the very start that team USA will not lose a game this entire tournament.....people are starting to say that the remaining teams are on the same level, if not better than team USA. So with that said, I'm asking for anyone to put their money where their mouth is......throw out any dollar figure and we'll bet through PayPal. Mark my words, team USA will not lose.
  ::)
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Antonio_ on September 01, 2006, 03:24:07 AM
R.I.P.

And that's for good. U.S.A. ain't shit no more, nobody in Europe is scared no more. Y'all need to put Kobe & Shaq in the team: period.
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: 7even on September 01, 2006, 03:26:12 AM
carmelo anthony, the clutch shooter... CLUTCH AIRBALL, whuuuuut??  hahahahaha!!

nofuckinbody in this team has a reliable hot shot and that's the problem ma niccaz. say good bye to the olympics if you don't get no redd/allen/korver type of fella.

now team USA is lucky to get a fuckin medal cause spain/argentina are even better than greece in my book. the game starts right now, go watch it see some more euro basketball ownage.
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: HD on September 01, 2006, 03:40:46 AM
lmao
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: PLANT on September 01, 2006, 04:02:48 AM
cant believe they lost......thats fucked up considering how serious they made themselves sound about winning this year.....guess they have to wait till 2008 now maybe Kobe can bring them gold.
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: 7even on September 01, 2006, 05:19:20 AM
Damn Spain vs. Argentina is one hell of a close game... awesome shit. Btw the Team USA needs Jason Terry also.
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: 7even on September 01, 2006, 05:35:23 AM
Fuck Gasol is injured  >:( I hope he can play in the Final but it doesn't look like it...

Argentina might fuck the US up tomorrow. Get some players who can shoot a basketball or never win a big tournament again. Your choice.
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: wcsoldier on September 01, 2006, 05:46:40 AM
^^^^ yep I hope he can play the Final.. Spain Defense was great in 2nd half, Argentina stayed in the game thanks to his 3pt hot shooting... I expect Spain to win coz I hate Greece though I recognize their execution and team chemistry are incredible
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: wcsoldier on September 01, 2006, 05:51:01 AM
R.I.P.

And that's for good. U.S.A. ain't shit no more, nobody in Europe is scared no more. Y'all need to put Kobe & Shaq in the team: period.
Yep they need Kobe and a dominant center in the future ( maybe Howard will develop some offensive skills).. without saying outside shooters like 7 mentionned. The duo  Shaq (in his prime) and Kobe would had destroyed any teams in the world..  8)
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Nutty on September 01, 2006, 06:02:44 AM
Bugger, the US lost. When's the playoff for 3rd spot?
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: wcsoldier on September 01, 2006, 06:10:55 AM
^^^^ tomorrow at 6.30 am ET . By the way Wade 13% in 3pts in 7 games, James 28% and 47 % in free-throws  :-X.. and the 3 pt line is 1 meter ahead the NBA line...
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Antonio_ on September 01, 2006, 07:52:22 AM
Only difference is that opponents now defend. :P
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 01, 2006, 10:43:36 AM
Kobe will save the US, I guarantee gold in 2008 as long as Kobe and Odom are on the team...PeACe
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Shallow on September 01, 2006, 10:56:18 AM
the "homos" team destroy USA   :D


Homos? I resent that. Greece has a smaller gay percentage than the USA and while the US has 19 Gay Pride parades a year in various cities, Greece has none. No other country in the world celebrates homosexuality like the Americans do. If anything your quote should read "the "homos" team got destroyed".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_parade


That being said, as a Greek I'm very disappointed with US basketball. The Jordan, Magic, Bird, team would have ran through these guys.
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: wcsoldier on September 01, 2006, 10:58:15 AM
^^^^ Kobe is the best player on this earth and is the most talented offensive player by far.. with the 3pt line 1 meter ahead, it's gonna be too easy for him.. without saying he wouldn't had left alone the Greeks guards in the perimeter with his great D..  and Lamar versatility fits the FIBA game perfectly .
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: wcsoldier on September 01, 2006, 11:03:05 AM
the "homos" team destroy USA   :D


Homos? I resent that. Greece has a smaller gay percentage than the USA and while the US has 19 Gay Pride parades a year in various cities, Greece has none. No other country in the world celebrates homosexuality like the Americans do. If anything your quote should read "the "homos" team got destroyed".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_parade


That being said, as a Greek I'm very disappointed with US basketball. The Jordan, Magic, Bird, team would have ran through these guys.
stereotypes are stereotypes... No need of the Jordan ect. Kobe would have been enough, even without him.. with Allen, Redd, Billups it would have been enough.. US experts should study the FIBA games much better
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: GangstaBoogy on September 01, 2006, 11:16:38 AM
its crazy how much usa lost their confidence once the lead was cut to 3. after the lost the lead the game was over for usa.
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 01, 2006, 11:18:42 AM
the "homos" team destroy USA   :D


Homos? I resent that. Greece has a smaller gay percentage than the USA and while the US has 19 Gay Pride parades a year in various cities, Greece has none. No other country in the world celebrates homosexuality like the Americans do. If anything your quote should read "the "homos" team got destroyed".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_parade


That being said, as a Greek I'm very disappointed with US basketball. The Jordan, Magic, Bird, team would have ran through these guys.

You need to read up on the history of Greece if you don't know what he's talking about...
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Shallow on September 01, 2006, 01:21:53 PM
the "homos" team destroy USA   :D


Homos? I resent that. Greece has a smaller gay percentage than the USA and while the US has 19 Gay Pride parades a year in various cities, Greece has none. No other country in the world celebrates homosexuality like the Americans do. If anything your quote should read "the "homos" team got destroyed".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_parade


That being said, as a Greek I'm very disappointed with US basketball. The Jordan, Magic, Bird, team would have ran through these guys.

You need to read up on the history of Greece if you don't know what he's talking about...


I know all about the alleged history from the same kid of history books that were saying black slaves had fun being slaves. The truth is that the historical evidence claiming it so is very suspect. Most of the historians assume such things based on various pieces of literature. If USA was taken over today and 1000 years from now someone looked as Hollywood and Hollywood alone to capture what America really was people would think it was on average a leftist, liberal, abortionist, queer-like haven for fuits and nutcases. And evenb hen the word love used between men in Greek writings doesn't have to mean sex. Different languages can mean different things, it just so happens that mainstream historians won't even debate how homosexual Greece was and it's probably due to the "gay mafia's", as they call it, agenda tomake homosexuality appear more common than it really is. These people still claim that the US is 10% gay based on that idiot Kinsey's study conststing a disproportionate amount of inmates and pedophiles. The odds that most or many Greeks were gay are the same as the odds they were philosphers or mathematicians.

Of course this is modern Greece we're talking about. Modern Greece is a very backwards homophobic, anti-semitic, racist haven for the set in their ways stubborn people. A TV station was fined 100 grand for showing two guys kissing, and they were trying to pass a law where you could arrest gays for kissing in daylight. Greece is hardly homosexual these days, and how come no one ever calls modern Greeks math whizzes, or scientists, when they throw out the gay slurs?
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 01, 2006, 02:16:26 PM
the "homos" team destroy USA   :D


Homos? I resent that. Greece has a smaller gay percentage than the USA and while the US has 19 Gay Pride parades a year in various cities, Greece has none. No other country in the world celebrates homosexuality like the Americans do. If anything your quote should read "the "homos" team got destroyed".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_parade


That being said, as a Greek I'm very disappointed with US basketball. The Jordan, Magic, Bird, team would have ran through these guys.

You need to read up on the history of Greece if you don't know what he's talking about...


I know all about the alleged history from the same kid of history books that were saying black slaves had fun being slaves. The truth is that the historical evidence claiming it so is very suspect. Most of the historians assume such things based on various pieces of literature. If USA was taken over today and 1000 years from now someone looked as Hollywood and Hollywood alone to capture what America really was people would think it was on average a leftist, liberal, abortionist, queer-like haven for fuits and nutcases. And evenb hen the word love used between men in Greek writings doesn't have to mean sex. Different languages can mean different things, it just so happens that mainstream historians won't even debate how homosexual Greece was and it's probably due to the "gay mafia's", as they call it, agenda tomake homosexuality appear more common than it really is. These people still claim that the US is 10% gay based on that idiot Kinsey's study conststing a disproportionate amount of inmates and pedophiles. The odds that most or many Greeks were gay are the same as the odds they were philosphers or mathematicians.

Of course this is modern Greece we're talking about. Modern Greece is a very backwards homophobic, anti-semitic, racist haven for the set in their ways stubborn people. A TV station was fined 100 grand for showing two guys kissing, and they were trying to pass a law where you could arrest gays for kissing in daylight. Greece is hardly homosexual these days, and how come no one ever calls modern Greeks math whizzes, or scientists, when they throw out the gay slurs?


Are you from Greece or something? LOL...Dude, who really cares, we'll never know 100%, it's just a common belief that homosexuality was very accepted in ancient Greece...

lyrics from Ras Kass - Nature of the Threat...

"The word gymnasium is Greek for "naked"
This was the place where adolescent boys were educated and molested
This was accepted cuz Greek culture was homosexual
for example, Sappho trained girls on the island of Lesbos
Hence, the word lesbian (let these muthafuckas know)
December 25, the birth of Saturn
A homosexual god, now check the historical pattern
December 25, now thought the birth of Christ
Was Saturnalia, when men got drunk, fucked each other then they beat
their wife
Fact is, it was still practiced, until they called it Christmas
So put a gerbil on your Christmas list

The Hellenistic Era, Alexander the Great
Conquers all the way to India leaving four successor states
By the Fifth century B.C.
R.O.M.E. succeeds to be
The conqueror of Egypt and Greece
But had the threat of the Black Phoenicians in Sicily
The Punic Wars began 264 B.C.
The Black general Hannibal and Carthaginian Peace
In 146 B.C. Carthage fell after a six-month siege
Rome sold every citizen into slavery, the first genocide in history
And more bisexuality in sight
Julius Caesar was known as 'every woman's husband and every man's wife' "
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Fonky Fresh on September 01, 2006, 06:00:34 PM
the "homos" team destroy USA   :D


Homos? I resent that. Greece has a smaller gay percentage than the USA and while the US has 19 Gay Pride parades a year in various cities, Greece has none. No other country in the world celebrates homosexuality like the Americans do. If anything your quote should read "the "homos" team got destroyed".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_parade


That being said, as a Greek I'm very disappointed with US basketball. The Jordan, Magic, Bird, team would have ran through these guys.

You need to read up on the history of Greece if you don't know what he's talking about...


I know all about the alleged history from the same kid of history books that were saying black slaves had fun being slaves. The truth is that the historical evidence claiming it so is very suspect. Most of the historians assume such things based on various pieces of literature. If USA was taken over today and 1000 years from now someone looked as Hollywood and Hollywood alone to capture what America really was people would think it was on average a leftist, liberal, abortionist, queer-like haven for fuits and nutcases. And evenb hen the word love used between men in Greek writings doesn't have to mean sex. Different languages can mean different things, it just so happens that mainstream historians won't even debate how homosexual Greece was and it's probably due to the "gay mafia's", as they call it, agenda tomake homosexuality appear more common than it really is. These people still claim that the US is 10% gay based on that idiot Kinsey's study conststing a disproportionate amount of inmates and pedophiles. The odds that most or many Greeks were gay are the same as the odds they were philosphers or mathematicians.

Of course this is modern Greece we're talking about. Modern Greece is a very backwards homophobic, anti-semitic, racist haven for the set in their ways stubborn people. A TV station was fined 100 grand for showing two guys kissing, and they were trying to pass a law where you could arrest gays for kissing in daylight. Greece is hardly homosexual these days, and how come no one ever calls modern Greeks math whizzes, or scientists, when they throw out the gay slurs?


Are you from Greece or something? LOL...Dude, who really cares, we'll never know 100%, it's just a common belief that homosexuality was very accepted in ancient Greece...

lyrics from Ras Kass - Nature of the Threat...

"The word gymnasium is Greek for "naked"
This was the place where adolescent boys were educated and molested
This was accepted cuz Greek culture was homosexual
for example, Sappho trained girls on the island of Lesbos
Hence, the word lesbian (let these muthafuckas know)
December 25, the birth of Saturn
A homosexual god, now check the historical pattern
December 25, now thought the birth of Christ
Was Saturnalia, when men got drunk, fucked each other then they beat
their wife
Fact is, it was still practiced, until they called it Christmas
So put a gerbil on your Christmas list

The Hellenistic Era, Alexander the Great
Conquers all the way to India leaving four successor states
By the Fifth century B.C.
R.O.M.E. succeeds to be
The conqueror of Egypt and Greece
But had the threat of the Black Phoenicians in Sicily
The Punic Wars began 264 B.C.
The Black general Hannibal and Carthaginian Peace
In 146 B.C. Carthage fell after a six-month siege
Rome sold every citizen into slavery, the first genocide in history
And more bisexuality in sight
Julius Caesar was known as 'every woman's husband and every man's wife' "


Admit u angry hehe

well too bad for the u.s no trophy (again) in a bbwcs

The only dream team was the 92' one now it's 100% sure
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Nutty on September 02, 2006, 06:17:11 AM
Happy with the win over Argentina, other teams are boring to watch
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Don Jacob on September 02, 2006, 01:59:18 PM
thank god we beat argentina, i can't believe we lost to greece though, fuck ! Kobe u better win the NBA championship on that new knee
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on September 02, 2006, 02:37:41 PM
LeBRONZE Keeps Livin up to his Name.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: DipsetGeneral on September 02, 2006, 02:41:19 PM
LeBRONZE Keeps Livin up to his Name.  ;D

See NIK this is what I mean when I said alot of Laker fans are Lebron haters
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 02, 2006, 04:10:05 PM
LeBRONZE Keeps Livin up to his Name.  ;D

See NIK this is what I mean when I said alot of Laker fans are Lebron haters


I know, but that's due to those placing LeBron on Kobe's level...
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: DipsetGeneral on September 02, 2006, 07:24:39 PM
LeBRONZE Keeps Livin up to his Name.  ;D

See NIK this is what I mean when I said alot of Laker fans are Lebron haters


I know, but that's due to those placing LeBron on Kobe's level...
Well its fuckin stupid, Kobe > Lebron!  Ok there ya'll go I know its true!  But to use that as a reason to discredit Lebron is absurd.  Im not talking about you Nik, but "Lebronze" wow how creative ::)   And Kobe is better CLEARLY, but Lebron is on his level lol
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 02, 2006, 07:27:38 PM
LeBRONZE Keeps Livin up to his Name.  ;D

See NIK this is what I mean when I said alot of Laker fans are Lebron haters


I know, but that's due to those placing LeBron on Kobe's level...
Well its fuckin stupid, Kobe > Lebron!  Ok there ya'll go I know its true!  But to use that as a reason to discredit Lebron is absurd.  Im not talking about you Nik, but "Lebronze" wow how creative ::)   And Kobe is better CLEARLY, but Lebron is on his level lol


It's about how the media makes him out to be a lot better than he really is...PeACe
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: DipsetGeneral on September 02, 2006, 07:33:09 PM
^^^I agree he isnt a great shooter and he plays no d but because he is a all around amazing scorer he's going to get that credit, and I do believe his D will get better as he gets older.
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: 7even on September 02, 2006, 07:55:30 PM
with lebron the thing is this:

he's one of the most athletic persons that ever walked on earth
he's strong and tall as fuck
he's STILL - despite the 2nd point - a GREAT ball handler, a great assist man, great court vision
he ain't got no attitude problem - he's willing to work hard, he's a nice guy too

BUT

he ain't got the best touch, well, he ain't a great shooter
he's never been coached about how to play elite D
he's too introverted to have a KILLER sense, to KILL opponents, to take clutch shots, to do 360 dunks etc.



BUT


love him or hate him, he's better at 21 than Jordan and Bryant ... were back then.
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on September 02, 2006, 07:55:56 PM
Get off my nuts, wigger   :D
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 02, 2006, 08:05:46 PM

BUT


love him or hate him, he's better at 21 than Jordan and Bryant ... were back then.


I don't really think so...Kobe was already winning championships, getting amazing numbers, while deferring to Shaq as a second option at 21...I mean, it's debatable, but I don't really think LeBron was "better", I just think the situation he was placed in gave him the chance to develop quicker, not better, but since he was the 1st option right off the bat, it was quicker...I honestly think Cleveland would be contenders right now if they coulda' drafted an 18 year old Kobe instead of James in 2003..PeACe
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: DipsetGeneral on September 02, 2006, 08:07:43 PM
Get off my nuts, wigger   :D

 :sleep: :sleep:
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Nutty on September 02, 2006, 08:40:25 PM
A great player cannot win a championship on their own!
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: DipsetGeneral on September 02, 2006, 08:42:03 PM
A great player cannot win a championship on their own!

Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Antonio_ on September 03, 2006, 03:26:20 AM
LeBron James at 22:
# NBA All-Star: 2005, 2006
# NBA All-Star Game MVP: 2006
# All-NBA First Team: 2006
# All-NBA Second Team: 2005
# NBA All-Rookie First Team: 2004
# NBA Rookie of the Year: 2004

Kobe Bryant at 22:
# NBA Champion: 2000
# NBA All-Star Game: 1998, 1999*, 2000 (*No All-Star game in 1999 due to league-wide lock-out)
# All-NBA Second Team: 2000
# All-NBA Third Team: 1999
# All-NBA Defensive First Team: 2000
# NBA All-Rookie Second Team: 1997
# NBA All-Star Slam Dunk Champion: 1997

P.S. To became a leader and a great player in a team with Shaq being the boss and with the NBA title as the main target is 10x harder than to do it in Cleveland. LeBron should have move to a better team to really prove himself and to really start playing the real hot games like Lakers-Kings, Lakers-Spurs, Lakers-Pistons... games he has never played.
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Nutty on September 03, 2006, 04:51:48 AM
Dun think the game's live, but nonetheless, Spain's rippin' shit up so far.

 ::)@ all the Kobe/other player comparisons

LeBron James at 22:
# NBA All-Star: 2005, 2006
# NBA All-Star Game MVP: 2006
# All-NBA First Team: 2006
# All-NBA Second Team: 2005

# NBA All-Rookie First Team: 2004
# NBA Rookie of the Year: 2004

Kobe Bryant at 22:
# NBA Champion: 2000
# NBA All-Star Game: 1998, 1999*, 2000 (*No All-Star game in 1999 due to league-wide lock-out)
# All-NBA Second Team: 2000
# All-NBA Third Team: 1999

# All-NBA Defensive First Team: 2000
# NBA All-Rookie Second Team: 1997
# NBA All-Star Slam Dunk Champion: 1997


Kobe has by far accomplished more, they are both talented mofos.

From these stats, I dunno, they seem pretty even there (minus the championship), Cavs & the 2000 Lakers.....no comparison, Kobe didn't do it by himself though.
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: wcsoldier on September 03, 2006, 06:09:46 AM
Bron won't see Kobe level.. never, when Bron gonna have crazy 4th quarters takeover, crazy clutch shots like Kobe against Portland, Detroit... and when Bron gonna be in 1st Defense Team you can holla at me.. that won't happen
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Antonio_ on September 03, 2006, 06:33:25 AM
Dun think the game's live, but nonetheless, Spain's rippin' shit up so far.

 ::)@ all the Kobe/other player comparisons

LeBron James at 22:
# NBA All-Star: 2005, 2006
# NBA All-Star Game MVP: 2006
# All-NBA First Team: 2006
# All-NBA Second Team: 2005

# NBA All-Rookie First Team: 2004
# NBA Rookie of the Year: 2004

Kobe Bryant at 22:
# NBA Champion: 2000
# NBA All-Star Game: 1998, 1999*, 2000 (*No All-Star game in 1999 due to league-wide lock-out)
# All-NBA Second Team: 2000
# All-NBA Third Team: 1999

# All-NBA Defensive First Team: 2000
# NBA All-Rookie Second Team: 1997
# NBA All-Star Slam Dunk Champion: 1997


Kobe has by far accomplished more, they are both talented mofos.

From these stats, I dunno, they seem pretty even there (minus the championship), Cavs & the 2000 Lakers.....no comparison, Kobe didn't do it by himself though.

Just like LeBron didn't reach the Play Offs by himself in his first 2 years. The thing you guys should understand is that to have the keys of a franchise and to be the most publicized and loved player EVER (after MJ) BEFORE joining the NBA is T-O-T-A-L-L-Y different that what Kobe did. Kobe was a 17 years old kid in a league where they didn't like yet guys who jumped from college to the NBA (without going to Uni). Veterans didn't like it, the media didn't like it. He was a kid in a grown man's world. Plus he went to the arguably the best franchise in the history of the NBA (sorry Boston fans!), with the fan favourite Eddie Jones playing SG, and with Shaq having the keys of the CITY and being dickrode so hard. He had Shaq being jealous of him (see Phil Jackson and Tex Winter's books) and litterally hating on him, and instead of collapsing, he had the balls to put the hate behind him and the develope into a starting SG first, and into the best SG in the league the next year. 3 titles, another one lost in the final. A totally different scenario, different history, def harder imo.
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: Antonio_ on September 03, 2006, 06:34:58 AM
Bron won't see Kobe level.. never, when Bron gonna have crazy 4th quarters takeover, crazy clutch shots like Kobe against Portland, Detroit... and when Bron gonna be in 1st Defense Team you can holla at me.. that won't happen

True that. Kobe is a 6-time All-Defensive Selection (First Team: 2000, 2003, 2004, 2006; Second Team: 2001, 2002)
Title: Re: The Official B-Ball World Championship thread
Post by: wcsoldier on September 03, 2006, 08:01:08 AM
^^^^ yep I mean the better scorers who plays guard or small forward aren't known for their Defense (James, Wade, Carter, McGrady, Allen...), that's one of the reason I think Kobe is way better than others becoz he can play hard on both sides on the floor AND a very few players can do that