West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: HBKid_Jr on December 27, 2001, 09:59:23 AM
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There has been a lot of talk about tha west is dead b/c of lack of sales, but who tha east goes platnium, theres jay-z but he is pop, nas only goes platnium, look at wutang i doubt there go platnium, they debuted at 32 on tha billboard chart, 2002 debuted at 39. Every1 says tha west is dead but how many rappers actually go platnium wit ease now, there dre, jay-z, nelly, ja fool, an snoop, if you think about it no1 in rap is really sellin too good wit tha exception of a few
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snoop
jay-z
nas
dmx, n i don'T give a fuck about them pop wannabe hip hop thang
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west:
snoop (solo)
dre
ice cube -struggles
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West:
Dr. Dre
Snoop Dogg
Xzibit
East:
Jay-Z
Nas
DMX
Ja Rule
South:
Ludacris
Outkast
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thatz tru aint nobody really sellin. everywhere (east, south, & mainly the west) needs to come wit some newer and younger artists.
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thatz tru aint nobody really sellin. everywhere (east, south, & mainly the west) needs to come wit some newer and younger artists.
whut do u think , u think knoc will sell multi platinum the first week, man we ain't in pop industry , we in rap, n in rap some good sales can be around 300.000 records , u wanted u shit , well go there n rap , i bet u won't sell 10.000 records
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If you're talking about right now, Dre, Jay Z, DMX, and Outkast all push mad units. Nas and Wu still sell well, and Bone has never gone less than platinum when they've made a group album [except Faces Of Death]. Snoop sells decently still. But I thought this thread was about older albums.....hahaha.
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If you're talking about right now, Dre, Jay Z, DMX, and Outkast all push mad units. Nas and Wu still sell well, and Bone has never gone less than platinum when they've made a group album [except Faces Of Death]. Snoop sells decently still. But I thought this thread was about older albums.....hahaha.
Jigga is rap's savior, basically. His music is respected by the streets and the casual music fan, as well. Also, he's respected by the critics as both XXL and the Source gave the Blueprint the highest rating possible.
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Jigga is rap's savior, basically. His music is respected by the streets and the casual music fan, as well. Also, he's respected by the critics as both XXL and the Source gave the Blueprint the highest rating possible.
actually jigga aint respected by a lot on tha streets, by some but nearly all, an he is respected by critics b/c he is straight pop an critics love that, i wouldnt say he is was rap's savior, tha only people i would consider saviors are nas, wu tang, an biggie b/c how they put tha east back on tha map in 94 an than dre saved tha west wit chronic 2001
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actualy , i think jigga get's luv n the street, it can't be else then this if he was #2 on the top 50.....
jigga n snoop are both on the top of their shape , the both sold around 400.000 on their first week, so i guest no one can go farther than that, even nas... and no , not knoc
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Lets not forget about Pac. He's dead, but he still outsells the likes of DMX, Jay Z, Snoop, and Ja Rule.
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it's ain't about pac , it's about death row promotion... the shit is wack compared to pac usual shit,, nowadays it's all about makin money so they flood the shit with wack remixes.... let's face it pac was good but until the ends of time wasn't comparable to tha blueprint, stillmatic, tha last meal, chronic 2001 etc
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Im not necessarily talking about Until The End Of Time.....im talking about Pac's OLDER albums. All Eyez On Me still sells like 15,000 copies a week.......
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the title is still
older don't mean still , still mean nowadays to me
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Of course "still" refers to older shit. All Eyez On Me is 6 years old and it STILL sells more than most of the garbage that comes out today. DMX's album is falling off the charts rapidly. I guarantee you that album will be pushing less units than AEOM in a few weeks, lol.....
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how is Jay-Z "straight pop"... i mean the mandatory 1st single's gotta be alittle bit Pop... and even Izzo was tight, had seemingly meaningful lyrics, and had a tight Beat with a tight sample. The rest of the album is full of bluesy, soulful thinkitive songs. Pretty much. I think it's weak to say that Jay is "straight Pop". He's not Ja-Rule. I aint hating on him, but his album is full of the same type of songs as his singles
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hizzo was tricky... i mean , he took the beat from tha jackson 5 n some lyric from the girl , so he do a little mix with some of his shit n voila he got another hit , but this hit i didn't like it , it's too much .. he wanted to hit a lot of people with this shit n he did, but i ain't fallin .. jay-z is wack now... i got some of my boys who back in the days live by jay-z , now they don't even want to listen to his shit, that hard, froma #1 fan to not at all. like on takeover.. but referring to him :-/
and hellrazor i don't think that the main idea of this post is about old shit, i don't know if i'm wrong but he wanna know who nowadays still sold well , mean who back in the days that was selling good n still selling good today
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Re: Who in rap still pushes major units
« Reply #15 on: Today at 00:30:06 » Quote Modify
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how is Jay-Z "straight pop"... i mean the mandatory 1st single's gotta be alittle bit Pop... and even Izzo was tight, had seemingly meaningful lyrics, and had a tight Beat with a tight sample. The rest of the album is full of bluesy, soulful thinkitive songs. Pretty much. I think it's weak to say that Jay is "straight Pop". He's not Ja-Rule. I aint hating on him, but his album is full of the same type of songs as his singles
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Finally somebody said it... When a single come out they all like him, then they hate on him and call him pop cuz he has catchy hooks and a lot of fans...Same shit happens with Snoop, Dre, Eminem,.. Etc we need haters to give dre some inspiration
lol
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the only peeps in the rap game that are actualy pushin major units have to be snoop, dre, outkast, nelly, ja fool, gay-z, and feminem. that's bout it. and only like the poppiest artists out of the artists i mentioned are sellin lots the others are only sellin around 2 or 3 million that's still good but not huge.
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Rappers still Pushing major units-
Eminem
Nas
Jay-Z
Dre
Snoop
Ludicris
Ja-Rule
DMX
Method Man
D-12
Outkast
Nelly
Xzibit
2pac
that's about the same as always num sayin... no more, no less
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Re: Who in rap still pushes major units
« Reply #15 on: Today at 00:30:06 » Quote Modify
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how is Jay-Z "straight pop"... i mean the mandatory 1st single's gotta be alittle bit Pop... and even Izzo was tight, had seemingly meaningful lyrics, and had a tight Beat with a tight sample. The rest of the album is full of bluesy, soulful thinkitive songs. Pretty much. I think it's weak to say that Jay is "straight Pop". He's not Ja-Rule. I aint hating on him, but his album is full of the same type of songs as his singles
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Finally somebody said it... When a single come out they all like him, then they hate on him and call him pop cuz he has catchy hooks and a lot of fans...Same shit happens with Snoop, Dre, Eminem,.. Etc we need haters to give dre some inspiration
lol
it's aight with one single but when all your single or most of em are pop , u don't have to ask u question about it
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it's ain't about pac , it's about death row promotion... the shit is wack compared to pac usual shit,, nowadays it's all about makin money so they flood the shit with wack remixes.... let's face it pac was good but until the ends of time wasn't comparable to tha blueprint, stillmatic, tha last meal, chronic 2001 etc
Comparing UTOET (which is all old material) to new albums like Blueprint and Stillmatic is like comparing Magic Johnson to Kobe Bryant. The newer one will always be a step above of the old one, cause the new one watches what the old one's tricks, and takes notes. In this case, you can hear 2pac's style in all the rappers you named. If Pac were still around, would you be saying the same thing? NO.
Circle
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mobb deeps last album murda muzik went platinum ...which is a real good thing for hip-hop...id like to see more artists like mobb deep go platinum...artists like redman and kurupt and shit definatly got what it takes and been payin dues...
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who still pushes ?? now weather y'all muvaphukaz iz down wit' 'pac or not...you can not deny that tha D-R-E iz still tha one that keepz a major part of tha west (and otha sidez 4 that matter) still in da game, and also...whether pac is dead or not...he iz still alive in his music and still keeps tha flow..and everytime his new records attracts a new fan...they find out what westcoast boys he iz affiliated with and start to like many of those too...snoop iz still in da game...nuff said much more could be said...but i'm goin' postin' uva shit right now!!