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Title: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on September 11, 2006, 06:35:38 AM
Well he is dropping it, "So So Gangsta" is in stores TOMORROW, and it's in my Top 3 of 2006. The album is banging from top to bottom, definitely Daz best effort since R.A.W...

Those of you saying the album is too short... go get your copy of Doggystyle, then think again. Better yet, go get your copy of Regulate, Illmatic, 36 Chambers..

Go get your copy tomorrow!
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Lil White Azz on September 11, 2006, 06:40:28 AM
well, i'm gon get it when it comes here
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Meho on September 11, 2006, 07:07:14 AM
The album shits on all his last DPG releases but its nothing outstanding.
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: ABN on September 11, 2006, 07:16:18 AM
shit´s gonna flop, why a label would drop an album with no buzz what so ever is beyond me.
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: BigBDrugStores on September 11, 2006, 07:17:40 AM
it happend with obie trice
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: OpTiCaL on September 11, 2006, 08:14:59 AM
Well he is dropping it, "So So Gangsta" is in stores TOMORROW, and it's in my Top 3 of 2006. The album is banging from top to bottom, definitely Daz best effort since R.A.W...

Those of you saying the album is too short... go get your copy of Doggystyle, then think again. Better yet, go get your copy of Regulate, Illmatic, 36 Chambers..

Go get your copy tomorrow!

It shouldnt be about the length of an album (unless the artist / company really taking the p*ss and releasing a full price 5 track "album" then i might complain lol its about the quality of whats on it...and Nima if u saying this will be up there with the likes of 36 chambers, regulate, diggystyle and illmatic then im copping it for sure  8)
 lol
Pe@cE
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Eddie G. on September 11, 2006, 08:36:52 AM
I'm copping it for sure, I hope he doesn't flop, but I can't see it selling any more than "Cali Iz Active," maybe even less because this doesn't have Snoop on the cover.
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: OpTiCaL on September 11, 2006, 08:39:03 AM
but I can't see it selling any more than "Cali Iz Active," maybe even less because this doesn't have Snoop on the cover.

damn i really hope this isnt truely the state we've gotten into  :(
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Conan on September 11, 2006, 08:53:52 AM
I'll be copping. Only full tracks I've heard so far are "On Some Real", "Weekend" and "Money On My Mind". Heard bits and pieces of the songs on MySpace ("Strizap" and "DPG Fo' Life") but neither all the way through. Hope it's as good as many people on here are claiming!
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Jome on September 11, 2006, 08:57:14 AM
The album shits on all his last DPG releases but its nothing outstanding.

Yep.
Best Daz album in a while, but not in the top 10 albums of 2006 or anything.
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: djkoast on September 11, 2006, 09:06:09 AM
nima fareal?  I wasn't sure about this album but if you are saying its his best effort since R.A.W then I might have to go cop it.  Haven't heard anything from the album but was debating on if it really was worth checking for.

Top 3 of this year though?  Alot of good westcoast albums this year.....
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Crip2Nite: South Central LA's HoOdSTAr on September 11, 2006, 09:08:59 AM
Not impressed with this album, so I won't be buying it.....This board is hyping this album up much more than it should be...Everyone is going crazy over this album and Kurupt's latest solo album, but hated the "Cali Iz Active" album, which was a really good album....Hope Daz does well with his major release, but I don't see it selling that much or at least what he said it would sell....Daz needs to bring bacc the heat he dropped on albums like "RR&G" and "R.A.W." and change the title to this album to either "So So Wacc", "So So Garbage" or "So So Dissapointing" or just "So So" :(
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Noname on September 11, 2006, 09:52:41 AM
I'm copping it for sure, I hope he doesn't flop, but I can't see it selling any more than "Cali Iz Active," maybe even less because this doesn't have Snoop on the cover.

It does have a catchier single then cali iz active. So maybe its gonna blow a little bit up.
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: wcsoldier on September 11, 2006, 09:54:59 AM
The album shits on all his last DPG releases but its nothing outstanding.
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on September 11, 2006, 10:00:12 AM
Ive ordered this, ive always thought it would be a good album
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: P Nelson on September 11, 2006, 10:42:54 AM
I don't expect the album to have incredible first week sales, but when Weekend is gonna drop...look for the album to climb the charts. Any info on the video? Will there be one?
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Brazemac on September 11, 2006, 10:53:39 AM
its a banger one of my favourite albums this year.
top 5
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Regime Mob - Yuk on September 11, 2006, 10:57:37 AM
Yeah this was a really good album, it really surprised me, this is the best dpg release in years.
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on September 11, 2006, 10:58:53 AM
Any info on the video? Will there be one?
I was under the impression that there was already one.

Nima saying this is his best album since R.A.W. is a bold statement. If I'm in a record store anytime soon I'll get it.
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: It's All About 18 on September 11, 2006, 11:03:32 AM
I will cop it for sure. Tracks already leaked are dope 8)
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on September 11, 2006, 11:12:49 AM
I'm not saying this is up there with the classics at ALL, because it isn't. but for todays albums, it's a HOT west coat album to me, because he kept it west coast but it has a uniiversal sound to it.
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Eddie G. on September 11, 2006, 11:14:17 AM
I'm copping it for sure, I hope he doesn't flop, but I can't see it selling any more than "Cali Iz Active," maybe even less because this doesn't have Snoop on the cover.

It does have a catchier single then cali iz active.
I agree.  I don't understand why "On Some Real Shit" isn't the number one song in the country right now.  That song is so fucking tight, and I've been listening to it for almost 5 months now and its always in rotation, and its still not getting old.  But, for some reason, it ain't catching on, so I don't see why anyone would by this CD other than Dogg Pound fans and hardcore So So Def supporters.
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Conan on September 11, 2006, 11:48:58 AM
I'm copping it for sure, I hope he doesn't flop, but I can't see it selling any more than "Cali Iz Active," maybe even less because this doesn't have Snoop on the cover.

It does have a catchier single then cali iz active.
I agree.  I don't understand why "On Some Real Shit" isn't the number one song in the country right now.  That song is so fucking tight, and I've been listening to it for almost 5 months now and its always in rotation, and its still not getting old.  But, for some reason, it ain't catching on, so I don't see why anyone would by this CD other than Dogg Pound fans and hardcore So So Def supporters.

I think for a rap single to REALLY crossover, you need to get the females interested. Take "Ridin' Dirty" as a current example - I know PLENTY of girls (and guys) that love that song right now. For whatever reason, the girls bought into it. Daz's lyrics on "On Some Real..." aren't exactly female-oriented (granted, neither are Chamillionaire's), but, to be honest, any label is going to have a hard time promoting a vet like Daz to the ladies. Having said all that, I also expected it to perform a little better, seeing how big Rick Ross is right now and how JD has a reputation for crafting hits. Peaking at 90 on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop chart is pretty poor. :-\

Maybe "Weekend" will catch on since I'm pretty sure Virgin/So So will allow him a second official single, but if it does then I believe that Johnta Austin's chorus will have been a major selling point.
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: BigBDrugStores on September 11, 2006, 11:59:13 AM
seeing how big Rick Ross is right now
big=fat right?
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Conan on September 11, 2006, 12:27:35 PM
Quote from: BigBDrugStores link=topic=120javascript:void(0);084.msg1243873#msg1243873 date=1158001153
seeing how big Rick Ross is right now
big=fat right?

Nah, that would make D-A-Z big too. :D
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: J$crILLa on September 11, 2006, 12:34:43 PM
will def be a top 5 of 06...

i'll be gettin it tomorrow
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: WestCoasta on September 11, 2006, 12:35:17 PM
The album is banging from top to bottom, definitely Daz best effort since R.A.W...

not saying this is up there with the classics at ALL, because it isn't. but for todays albums, it's a HOT west coat album to me, because he kept it west coast but it has a uniiversal sound to it.

:sign_werd:

but for real, "Strizaps" is classic!  no backtalk
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Paul on September 11, 2006, 01:19:47 PM
The album is banging from top to bottom, definitely Daz best effort since R.A.W...

not saying this is up there with the classics at ALL, because it isn't. but for todays albums, it's a HOT west coat album to me, because he kept it west coast but it has a uniiversal sound to it.

:sign_werd:

but for real, "Strizaps" is classic!  no backtalk


yeah im thinkin tht ,it will be a modern day classic song

does sound like a HOT westcoast album so far.
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: youngmessnucca on September 11, 2006, 02:18:28 PM
To the people throwing the word flop around, yall are dumb as shit. Nobody expects this album to sell alot of units=no chance of a flop. If they spent millions of dollars promoting this and he still only sold 40K, then it would be a flop. No promotion=no chance of a flop.

And I dont get how people are already forming opinions on this CD when the web rip has only been out 3-4 days.
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: djkoast on September 11, 2006, 04:19:29 PM
To the people throwing the word flop around, yall are dumb as shit. Nobody expects this album to sell alot of units=no chance of a flop. If they spent millions of dollars promoting this and he still only sold 40K, then it would be a flop. No promotion=no chance of a flop.

And I dont get how people are already forming opinions on this CD when the web rip has only been out 3-4 days.

Seriously thats why I dislike the internet sometimes.  Everything is classic or trash, nothing inbetween, within 2 days of it leaking on the Internet.

And as far as 'flop' goes...only time a album should be labeled a flop is if its a horrible album music wise.  Why the fuck do any of us care about record sales?
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: PICA$$O on September 11, 2006, 04:27:42 PM
Well he is dropping it, "So So Gangsta" is in stores TOMORROW, and it's in my Top 3 of 2006. The album is banging from top to bottom, definitely Daz best effort since R.A.W...

Those of you saying the album is too short... go get your copy of Doggystyle, then think again. Better yet, go get your copy of Regulate, Illmatic, 36 Chambers..

Go get your copy tomorrow!

I'ma buy this muthafucka 2morrow... DAZ has always been good 2 my ears...
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: $Eg2$ on September 11, 2006, 04:28:59 PM
Daz will flop (get dropped from So So Def and make numerous dis records and DVDs so so def killa LOL)

Hope he does well West West Yall
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: WestCoasta on September 11, 2006, 04:29:57 PM
To the people throwing the word flop around, yall are dumb as shit. Nobody expects this album to sell alot of units=no chance of a flop. If they spent millions of dollars promoting this and he still only sold 40K, then it would be a flop. No promotion=no chance of a flop.



And I dont get how people are already forming opinions on this CD when the web rip has only been out 3-4 days.
I usually wouldn't but I've been listening to it too much since I got it so I'd say I got a valid opinion for myself

but you're right, within the first 30 minutes of leaking people be comin with "classic" or "wacK"  fuckers
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: PLANT on September 11, 2006, 04:48:40 PM
This album is dope....I'll be picking up a copy for sure.
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: hiphopalerts on September 11, 2006, 09:30:15 PM
shit´s gonna flop, why a label would drop an album with no buzz what so ever is beyond me.

u right that nigga dont got no buzz @ all.  i think jd gone drop him afta this album
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Darksider on September 11, 2006, 09:49:32 PM
i will def buy it
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Mr. O on September 11, 2006, 11:37:49 PM
The album is banging from top to bottom, definitely Daz best effort since R.A.W...

not saying this is up there with the classics at ALL, because it isn't. but for todays albums, it's a HOT west coat album to me, because he kept it west coast but it has a uniiversal sound to it.

:sign_werd:

but for real, "Strizaps" is classic!  no backtalk

it's good song..but it's nothing compared DAT"S DAT NIGGA...that shit real is real classic.
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Tha Crip on September 12, 2006, 05:27:36 AM
well lets see, ive bought all his albums except R.A.W., Tha Dogg Pound Gangsta and Gangsta Crunk (downloaded those ones) and i dont know what the fuck some of u are thinkin...So So Gangsta BLOWS "R.A.W." out of the water, i only liked one song on dat cd. So with that said im DEFINATELY buyin this new album  8), btw DPGC: You Know What Im Throwin Up is hella underated, that shit is a masterpiece (all those hot soopafly and fredwreck beats)
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: BigBDrugStores on September 12, 2006, 07:21:28 AM
the only daz song i realy listen to is 'tyme to ryde on em' off of the gangsta crunk cd. how does this cd compare to that song?
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Mr. O on September 12, 2006, 11:35:54 AM
well lets see, ive bought all his albums except R.A.W., Tha Dogg Pound Gangsta and Gangsta Crunk (downloaded those ones) and i dont know what the fuck some of u are thinkin...So So Gangsta BLOWS "R.A.W." out of the water, i only liked one song on dat cd. So with that said im DEFINATELY buyin this new album  8), btw DPGC: You Know What Im Throwin Up is hella underated, that shit is a masterpiece (all those hot soopafly and fredwreck beats)
buy R.A.W..if not ya ain't knowing daz..lol... hop to it.. :)
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: HD on September 13, 2006, 04:30:51 AM
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Daz :: So So Gangsta
So So Def/Virgin Records
Author: Steve 'Flash' Juon 

Call him Daz Dillinger, Dat Nigga Daz, or just plain Daz if you like. No matter which handle you use, there's only one Delmar Arnaud. Already a legend in the rap game at the young age of 33, Daz has been putting beats to the rhymes since 1992, back in the heyday of Death Row's brief ascendance to kingpins of the rap industry. Daz was more or less guaranteed a spot in the crew by virtue of being Snoop Dogg's cousin, but his ability to lace tracks and spit hard rhymes made him a virtuoso of West coast gangsta shit. In fact Daz's reputation grew so quickly that some argued he was "ghostwriting" beats for more famous producers and being paid under the table so they could put their name on his shit. By linking up with the charismatic Kurupt and creating a rap group named after Snoop's crew, Tha Dogg Pound quickly moved up in both artist respect and chart position. Undoubtedly you know the rest of the story - Death Row crumbled, the once amiable partners had creative differences, and everybody started releasing their own shit. Daz and Kurupt have managed to re-unite several times since with mixed results, but Daz is better known these days on his own, dropping beats and rhymes for dolo.

The track record of albums he has authored or co-authored since leaving Death Row is fairly extensive, but the ability to complete a catalogue of these albums can be challenging to even hardcore fans. His independently released albums have gotten better distribution than most, but you're still not going to find them in large chain retailers like Best Buy and Target. For that reason as much or more than any Daz has joined forces with fellow rapper/producer Jermaine Dupri and joined the fold of So So Def Recordings. Some might presume that's a mismatch since J.D. is known for crossover friendly hip-hop and R&B while Daz is known for some of the hardest G shit on the planet, but "So So Gangsta" is only an indication of their joint partnership and not of Daz changing up styles or going soft. In fact when you consider that the first single to chart is titled "On Some Real Shit" and features a guest appearance by Rick Ross, it's pretty evident that Daz is still Daz and ain't a damn thing changed:

Daz: "Got straps simple as dat, hand on the trigger
Need 30 mo' ohhhhh's, to add to these figures
See my neck's so heavy, gotta shine up the Chevy
See ya betta stay wit it or ya gon' get wet
Stay in the fresh shit, new fly kicks
Hundred thousand dolla whip, nigga don't set trip"

Ross: "It had to be a rope chain, started wit the dope game
All about the cocaine, tired of bein po' mayne
Cracks in a nigga roof, buckets just to catch the rain
Sellin crack on the roof, buckin just to get a name
Now I'm crackin a roof, open up the Bentley brains
No flaws in the stones, iced out e'rythang"

The beats are tight and so so right this time out. "Rat a Tat Tat" sounds like a throwback to the "Dogg Food" days for all the right reasons; speaking of which posse's ALL IN for the epic "DPG Fo' Life" featuring Kurupt, Snoop Dogg and Soopafly. THROW UP THAT W! Kurupt's also down for the smoothed out "Money on My Mind," while fellow West coast legend Ice Cube can be found spitting verses with Daz on "Strizap." It's not all G'd up though, because Daz still knows how to kick a song about partying and as such collaborates with Johnta Austin for the chillout anthem "Weekend":

Daz: "I had to immediately hit her with some West coast game
Cause uhh, all these people screamin - what's yo' name?
And uhh, buyin roses and the best champagne
She can see through the glass that yo' ass is lame
She cool, but she ain't trippin off no cash flow
Cause she went to school but still puff puff pass though
Right up my alley, as we sat there shootin the shit
I broke it down broke it down to the shorty like this"

Austin: "Tell yo' friends, to get with my friends
And we can be friends, and do it all weekend
Smoke blunts, get drunk, do it all weekend
From Thursday to Friday to Saturday to Sunday"

For those looking for an advanced degree in political science or philosophy, sorry this ain't your fuckin' album. For those looking for the best written lyrics with the most advanced concepts, punchlines, and rhyme schemes you picked up the wrong fuckin' shit. Ironically even though Kurupt got the most credit as the lyrical kingpin during Dogg Pound's first run in the early 90's, Daz knows how to keep a beat and stick to the script without fucking shit up; while Kurupt often overexerts himself so much he ends up rhyming "bitch" with "bitch" and looking like a clown. To put it simply, Daz exerts cool. He doesn't have to try the hardest to be the hardest - Daz is just Daz, or as he says on the albums closing track when you hear his rap you go "Dat's Dat Nigga." If you're looking for some certified fly West coast shit it's hard to go wrong with "So So Gangsta," easily one of Daz's best solo albums of the past 10 years.

Music Vibes: 8.5 of 10 Lyric Vibes: 7.5 of 10 TOTAL Vibes: 8 of 10

Originally posted: September 12, 2006
source: www.RapReviews.com
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Minkaveli on September 13, 2006, 09:10:28 AM
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shit´s gonna flop, why a label would drop an album with no buzz what so ever is beyond me


Co-sign.  As much as I hate to say it, the single with Lip Gloss, I mean Rick Ross, gets no airplay.  I would like to see Daz go gold because he is one of the iller producers in the game but he is gonna get the Obie treatment.
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Tha G In Deee on September 14, 2006, 01:41:11 AM
Today I had a chance of listenin' to the whole album in full..."Thang On My Hip", "Weekend", "DPG Fo' Life", "Money On My Mind", "Strizap" & "Dat's Dat Nigga" are all dope...the other tracks are good but those are the ones that stood out the most to me on the 1st couple of listens...I would've added "On Some Real" but it's been out for a long time, I still think it's a dope track though...too bad "All I Need" didn't come on the album as the remix with Kurupt & Snoop but overall I thought the album is real dope, & 12 tracks is enough for me...I'd rather have 12 dope tracks than 20 & only 1/2 of them are good and full of useless skits...
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Antonio_ on September 14, 2006, 04:31:44 PM
Those of you saying the album is too short... go get your copy of Doggystyle, then think again. Better yet, go get your copy of Regulate, Illmatic, 36 Chambers..

C'mon homie, i know you're cool with Daz and everything, but maybe i should remember you

NY State Of Mind > Daz's entire solo career
Regulate > Daz's entire solo career
Ain't No Fun > Daz's entire solo career
CREAM > Daz's entire solo career

Don't make those kind of comparision: the albums you quoted are 5 MICS CLASSICS. This one is a pretty good one but it's far from being comparable with the ones you quoted.

It's a 3.5/4 mics to me.
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on September 14, 2006, 04:34:36 PM
Read my post again, I said "for those saying the album is too short, check those albums", speaking of ALBUM LENGH, and that an album with 20 tracks isnt necessarily better than an album with 12 tracks, and I quote some classic records that were not long.

Where did I compare the Daz album to those?!
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: Antonio_ on September 14, 2006, 06:01:14 PM
Read my post again, I said "for those saying the album is too short, check those albums", speaking of ALBUM LENGH, and that an album with 20 tracks isnt necessarily better than an album with 12 tracks, and I quote some classic records that were not long.

Where did I compare the Daz album to those?!

I'm saying one could accept them albums being so short because of their quality, because they're 5 mics material. But this Daz isn't classic. It's still a very enjoyable album and i'm happy he finally made it big, but to be honest i was expecting it to be longer. The fact it is so short is probably causing it to be just a "pretty good" album and not "very good" one. Anyway i'm not hating on it, it's a good album and i'll end up buying it. But i wanted it to be longer, that's all.
Title: Re: Remember everybody saying JD would never drop a Daz album on So So Def?
Post by: BigBDrugStores on September 16, 2006, 07:04:01 AM
the only daz song i realy listen to is 'tyme to ryde on em' off of the gangsta crunk cd. how does this cd compare to that song?