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Title: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 23, 2001, 12:51:09 PM
Me and Minoritism have been having a debate in the rap review forum about this album. He says its NOT a classic, while I say it is. He also went on to say this album had no impact whatsoever [LMAO], and its only an above average album.........Now, the point of this post is, I wanna get a consensus from this board. Is this album a classic?? I think so......so, rock the vote yall..........just say classic or not classic.........

CLASSIC
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on December 23, 2001, 01:08:41 PM
NO Impact??? RTLAMO..........Maybe minority should get into hip hop more........... ::)

But really though, this IS a classic in music, not just Hip Hop...........

Ah and dont concern yurself wit someone else's "Oppinion" Hellrazor, I learned not 2 do dat in this forum a while ago...........Tha only time u should concern yurself is when someone makes a dumb ass statement, like this album didn't have no impact, correct them, by proving it...........
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: topdogg187 on December 23, 2001, 01:12:46 PM
i agree it did have a huge impact on the music industry and introduced a lot of people to a new style of hip hop, but i guess i just don't like it as much as a lot of other peeps. even though is wuz a bangin album in my opinion its NOT A CLASSIC.
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 23, 2001, 01:18:55 PM
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NO Impact??? RTLAMO..........Maybe minority should get into hip hop more........... ::)

But really though, this IS a classic in music, not just Hip Hop...........

Ah and dont concern yurself wit someone else's "Oppinion" Hellrazor, I learned not 2 do dat in this forum a while ago...........Tha only time u should concern yurself is when someone makes a dumb ass statement, like this album didn't have no impact, correct them, by proving it...........


True that........This album most definatly had impact, and when an album has impact, 9/10 times, its gonna be deemed a classic. I dont think Minoritism read my review, cuz I pretty much broke it down.....And I still have memories of this album from 95'-96', and how big this album was.......EVERYONE was bitin that shit left and right. You couldnt go ANYWHERE w/o hearing someone bump that album......And it STILL sells like 10,000 copies a week 6 years later. This is the album by which ALL midwest hip hop albums are measured by.

I would explain the impact of this album to those who dont about it, but I wont bother.....just go peep my review in the album review forum. Its all there..........
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 23, 2001, 01:25:03 PM
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i agree it did have a huge impact on the music industry and introduced a lot of people to a new style of hip hop, but i guess i just don't like it as much as a lot of other peeps. even though is wuz a bangin album in my opinion its NOT A CLASSIC.


You kinda contradicted yourself there.....you admitted it had impact and was a bangin album, but then you said its not a classic.....???
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on December 23, 2001, 01:27:07 PM
Ill tell u wat tha problem is.......

"Some" people are just too used 2 "Normal" emcees and "Normal" rap styles.........nah'mean?
So when they hear some different ass shit like Bone's shit, they aint gonna like it b/c of tha style.........But Not liking should not get in tha way of u suggesting this aint a classic..........I mean I myself dont really like some of tha ol school shit like Run Dmc too much, although I like some songs, I dont really care bout dat shit too much, But I aint gonna Exclude dat those shit waz classic, b/c when I study bout wat those albums did and what they stand 4 then Im Automatically gonna label them classic.........

U see wha'm tryin 2 get across here?




Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 23, 2001, 01:31:49 PM
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Ill tell u wat tha problem is.......

"Some" people are just too used 2 "Normal" emcees and "Normal" rap styles.........nah'mean?
So when they hear some different ass shit like Bone's shit, they aint gonna like it b/c of tha style.........But Not liking should not get in tha way of u suggesting this aint a classic..........I mean I myself dont really like some of tha ol school shit like Run Dmc too much, although I like some songs, I dont really care bout dat shit too much, But I gonna Exclude dat those shit waz classic, b/c when I study bout wat those albums did and what they stand 4 then Im Automatically gonna label them classic.........

U see wha'm tryin 2 get across here?


True, you cant let personal opinion get in the way......I think Run Dmc's music is pretty boring myself, but they most definatly put out some classic shit. I dont like DMX very much, but his first album  was a near classic...

these young cats on here will never understand the impact that an album like E.1999 Eternal had......
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: Nosak on December 23, 2001, 01:33:48 PM
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I dont like DMX very much, but his first album  was a near classic...


hen hen , hell naww, it's wasn't near it was dawm classic
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Post by: Nosak on December 23, 2001, 01:34:32 PM
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I dont like DMX very much, but his first album  was a near classic...



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I dont like DMX very much, but his first album  was a near classic...


hen hen , hell naww, it's wasn't near it was a dawm classic
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 23, 2001, 01:36:24 PM
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hen hen , hell naww, it's wasn't near it was a dawm classic


Its an "arguable" classic, but not a DEFINATE classic like E.1999 Eternal.
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Post by: D1G1T4L on December 23, 2001, 01:37:38 PM
yeah i know what you are saying, i personally think run dmc sucks, but since they started so early on mtv and everything, i guess it's classic lol............ anyways E.1999 Eternal is definatelly a classic album
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 23, 2001, 01:41:34 PM
Results so far:  3-1 in favor of classic..........
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: DPGC2001 on December 23, 2001, 01:58:11 PM
Classic...Art Of War is also very close to classic it's a personal favorite of mine...If it was just 1 CD instead of 2 we would be talking about 2 straight classic albums an a classic EP...
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: D1G1T4L on December 23, 2001, 02:02:42 PM
I just want to add that Notorious Thugs is prolly one of the best songs in rap/hip hop history
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: Cliche on December 23, 2001, 02:11:04 PM
I Disagree. E. 1999 isn't a classic. it may have contained a few classic joints (1st Of The Month) but the album overall... is pretty bland to me... i can't listen to a whole bone album at once though, not since Creepin On A Come Up
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 23, 2001, 02:26:12 PM
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I Disagree. E. 1999 isn't a classic. it may have contained a few classic joints (1st Of The Month) but the album overall... is pretty bland to me... i can't listen to a whole bone album at once though, not since Creepin On A Come Up


bland?? Whatever..... That album has some of the darkest production on a hip hop record.
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: HBKid_Jr on December 23, 2001, 02:29:58 PM
Classic,  an i think disk 1 of tha art of war is as close as classic as u can get,  i can listen to that all tha way through,  now i cant stay tha same thing about disk 2 cuz i dont got it,  bottom line e.1999.eternal is a classic
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: Ant on December 23, 2001, 02:42:36 PM
not classic i cant even listen to that shit
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 23, 2001, 02:52:11 PM
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not classic i cant even listen to that shit


Ant, you've never even heard the album so shut the fuck up......I saw you admit this on the y2hiphop board. You're vote will NOT count.

The current results of 5-2 in favor of classic will remain intact.
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: NEW_MINORITY on December 23, 2001, 03:02:36 PM
ok..ok.. fuck this bullshit i'm gonna break it down to ya'll


first of foremost, i would like to give a BIG FUCK YOU to the7th for constanly putting that annoying "rolling eyes" shit...don't do that no more that is irratating and it pisses me off.....(at the review forum)

last but not least, hellrazor, yo why are u so obsessed?? every time someone say bone shit isn't classic you clearly disrespect them just cuz of having an opinion.....its ridiculous, you still haven't proven the impact that bone had (except for the 8 million in sales but thats not impact), i mean yeah they had dope shit like crossroads etc. but couple classic tracks doesn't make a whole album classic....stop rating albums sales wise for real......bone's album is NOWHERE near REAL CLASSIC albums like illmatic, doggystyle, chronic, 7 day theory.....now these albums had influences but BONE???? r u kiddin???? its probably on the same level as REASONABLE DOUBT


so in conclusion.......NOT CLASSIC NEVER WILL BE
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: D1G1T4L on December 23, 2001, 03:08:30 PM
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bone's album is NOWHERE near REAL CLASSIC albums like illmatic, doggystyle, chronic, 7 day theory.....now these albums had influences but BONE???? r u kiddin???? its probably on the same level as REASONABLE DOUBT


so in conclusion.......NOT CLASSIC NEVER WILL BE


once again that's your opinion, and my opinion illmatic is not classic, so what's your point?
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 23, 2001, 03:12:27 PM
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ok..ok.. fuck this bullshit i'm gonna break it down to ya'll


first of foremost, i would like to give a BIG FUCK YOU to the7th for constanly putting that annoying "rolling eyes" shit...don't do that no more that is irratating and it pisses me off.....(at the review forum)

last but not least, hellrazor, yo why are u so obsessed?? every time someone say bone shit isn't classic you clearly disrespect them just cuz of having an opinion.....its ridiculous, you still haven't proven the impact that bone had (except for the 8 million in sales but thats not impact), i mean yeah they had dope shit like crossroads etc. but couple classic tracks doesn't make a whole album classic....stop rating albums sales wise for real......bone's album is NOWHERE near REAL CLASSIC albums like illmatic, doggystyle, chronic, 7 day theory.....now these albums had influences but BONE???? r u kiddin???? its probably on the same level as REASONABLE DOUBT


so in conclusion.......NOT CLASSIC NEVER WILL BE


Ive already proved its a classic, in my album review. The sales have NOTHING to do with it being classic. I dont care if the album only went gold, it would STILL be a classic. Quit saying I rate albums based on sales only, and go read my review already........or are you afraid to do so, cuz you KNOW im right and you wont be able to argue anymore? Every song on the album is a classic track.........go read the review homie.....

P.S. I like Makaveli, Doggystyle, The Chronic, and Illmatic just fine, but E.1999 Eternal is just as good if not better than any of those. The only one of those that is probably better is the Chronic, the most influential hip hop album of the 90's. Doggystyle?? Classic album, but only cuz of Snoop's flow and the production. Lyrically, the album is COMPLETE SHIT. Illmatic? I think this and Eternal are equal but Im a bigger Bone fan so Ill take Eternal. Makaveli?? One of my fav albums, but it doesnt touch E.1999 Eternal. Not even close. And im a bigger 2Pac fan than I am a Bone fan.
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 23, 2001, 03:13:35 PM
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once again that's your opinion, and my opinion illmatic is not classic, so what's your point?


I have to disagree there, Illmatic is definatly classic, but Illmatic aint the topic here..........E.1999 Eternal is.
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: NEW_MINORITY on December 23, 2001, 03:13:50 PM
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once again that's your opinion, and my opinion illmatic is not classic, so what's your point?


exactly...and once again THATS YOUR OPINION, you know what i'm saying??? i'm a HUGE nas fan but when you said illmatic in not classic....do you see me disrespecting you and verbally assaulting you?? no cuz i can't do shit to change your OPINION....hellrazor and the7th are clear dickriders...

oh yeah....its also funny how i say that bone's 2nd album is above average and all of a sudden fag like the7th(who i was cool with) calls me out and say I DON'T KNOW HIP-HOP........now thats 'CLASSIC'.......
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 23, 2001, 03:16:56 PM
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exactly...and once again THATS YOUR OPINION, you know what i'm saying??? i'm a HUGE nas fan but when you said illmatic in not classic....do you see me disrespecting you and verbally assaulting you?? no cuz i can't do shit to change your OPINION....hellrazor and the7th are clear dickriders...

oh yeah....its also funny how i say that bone's 2nd album is above average and all of a sudden fag like the7th(who i was cool with) calls me out and say I DON'T KNOW HIP-HOP........now thats 'CLASSIC'.......


Me and 7th are dickriders?? Man, fuuuuuuuuuuck you. You're just mad cuz I herbed you by proving the majority of people think E.1999 Eternal is a classic.
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Post by: D1G1T4L on December 23, 2001, 03:21:53 PM
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exactly...and once again THATS YOUR OPINION, you know what i'm saying??? i'm a HUGE nas fan but when you said illmatic in not classic....do you see me disrespecting you and verbally assaulting you?? no cuz i can't do shit to change your OPINION....hellrazor and the7th are clear dickriders...

oh yeah....its also funny how i say that bone's 2nd album is above average and all of a sudden fag like the7th(who i was cool with) calls me out and say I DON'T KNOW HIP-HOP........now thats 'CLASSIC'.......


yea i agree with u, that people shouldnt disrespect others for expressing their opinions,


p.s. i wanted to get a reaction from him when i said illmatic is not classic...
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: NEW_MINORITY on December 23, 2001, 03:22:50 PM
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Me and 7th are dickriders?? Man, fuuuuuuuuuuck you. You're just mad cuz I herbed you by proving the majority of people think E.1999 Eternal is a classic.


yawn............and fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccckk you, don't cuss at me fool.......you didn't prove shit...all of a sudden 4 peeps say its a classic its a classic???? i don't think so...i LIVE IN THE MIDWEST (minnesota) so i listen to shit like twista, psycho drama (whom you never heard of), who have the same style as bone (matter of fact they better) so there is no way i'm biase, how the fuck can i be biase with my own side???? btw, do you really have to cuss at me to get your point across?? that tells you already that your full of shit and we ain't believing you...
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 23, 2001, 03:24:48 PM
And whats more, Minoritism ALSO had the nerve to say my review of the album was complete bullshit [LMAO], even though it is one of the more detailed and thought out reviews on this site. I worked hard on that review.

Then he posts his plain-ass, non-detailed review and has the NERVE to playahate on my shit?? Mothafucka please......
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: NEW_MINORITY on December 23, 2001, 03:25:20 PM
anyways, so far its "4-4"
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: NEW_MINORITY on December 23, 2001, 03:26:36 PM
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And whats more, Minoritism ALSO had the nerve to say my review of the album was complete bullshit [LMAO], even though it is one of the more detailed and thought out reviews on this site. I worked hard on that review.

Then he posts his plain-ass, non-detailed review and has the NERVE to playahate on my shit?? Mothafucka please......


read my illmatic review fool
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 23, 2001, 03:26:49 PM
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yawn............and fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccckk you, don't cuss at me fool.......you didn't prove shit...all of a sudden 4 peeps say its a classic its a classic???? i don't think so...i LIVE IN THE MIDWEST (minnesota) so i listen to shit like twista, psycho drama (whom you never heard of), who have the same style as bone (matter of fact they better) so there is no way i'm biase, how the fuck can i be biase with my own side???? btw, do you really have to cuss at me to get your point across?? that tells you already that your full of shit and we ain't believing you...


Hahaha......Im not even gonna bless that bullshit ass post with a reply.
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Post by: NEW_MINORITY on December 23, 2001, 03:29:33 PM
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Hahaha......Im not even gonna bless that bullshit ass post with a reply.

cuz you know i'm right.....it ain't hard to tell....
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 23, 2001, 03:31:25 PM
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read my illmatic review fool


Hahahaha, I peeped it. You only consider FOUR [???] rap albums to be classic?? Hahaha thats a joke.............There are waaaaay more than 4 classic albums. Damn, thats worse than The Source [who have only given out 5 mics to like 12 albums].

Well, now that I know that, I see no need to argue with you anymore....lol
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 23, 2001, 03:32:24 PM
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cuz you know i'm right.....it ain't hard to tell....


If you really wanna think so, go right ahead........LMAO at you.
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 23, 2001, 03:33:57 PM
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anyways, so far its "4-4"



Um, you might wanna count again, its 5-2 in favor of classic.
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 23, 2001, 05:22:47 PM
Mr. Bump-A-Topic is back......

Keep the votes comin yall.........Oh, and if you havent heard the album before, dickride one coast, or think there are only 4 classic albums, please do us a favor and DONT vote, lol..........Intelligent heads ONLY please.....
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: TheShiznit227 on December 23, 2001, 05:51:22 PM
Fa'real minoritism it's yo opinion 'n all but i dont see how u dont think E.1999 Eternal isnt classic...If the argument was like is The Blueprint classic or somethin' like that i could understand...but wit'out a doubt Eternal IS CLASSIC...
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Post by: D1G1T4L on December 23, 2001, 06:25:17 PM
yea really, how can u say it's not classic, prolly u dont like their style? but it is though :(

on another hand, i cant understand how some people can even stand blueprint, it's not that i hate jigga man, but that cd just sucks :(         oh yeah new ludacris cd sucks too :(
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: Doggystylin on December 23, 2001, 06:39:33 PM
yall need new earz this shit is classix
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 23, 2001, 06:39:41 PM
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yea really, how can u say it's not classic, prolly u dont like their style? but it is though :(

on another hand, i cant understand how some people can even stand blueprint, it's not that i hate jigga man, but that cd just sucks :(         oh yeah new ludacris cd sucks too :(


Haha, I liked the Blueprint....but yea, I could definatly see people not thinking Blueprint is a classic. Its a strong album, but it isnt really having any impact or influence, other than the fact that it helped bring back Jiggaz original fanbase [the Reasonable Doubt fans].

Anyway, 7-2 in favor of classic for E.1999 Eternal.
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on December 23, 2001, 06:47:49 PM
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first of foremost, i would like to give a BIG FUCK YOU to the7th for constanly putting that annoying "rolling eyes" shit...don't do that no more that is irratating and it pisses me off.....(at the review forum)



A BIG FUCK U TOO THEN PUNK............And here's some rolly eyes, shove it up yur ass.......... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


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all of a sudden fag like the7th(who i was cool with) calls me out and say I DON'T KNOW HIP-HOP


Well it's clear u dont when u only count "4" albums as classics...........Dat aint hard 2 figure out ::) ::) ::)




And by tha way, how are u gonna sit there and tell me Psycho Drama is better than bone, I got hella their shit and they sound exactly like bone, they just dont got tha harmony, they just some Fast ass spitters who keep spittin and spittin..........At first it's some good hype up shit, but as u keep listenin it gets boring, same goes wit Twista, although Twista's fuckin sick, he just dont got tha harmony..........


Yo I had enough man, fuck u, I dont wanna waste my time on u...........And oh, I KILLED yur ass in our battle in tha keystyle forum.............I have no idea how u had tha nerve 2 make peeps vote............




Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 23, 2001, 06:50:58 PM
Oh its a classic whether people don't wanna admit it or not.
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 23, 2001, 06:54:25 PM
^^^LMAO at all those rollie eyes!! Hahahaha. Minoritism got punked 3 times. I exposed him as a herb who thinks there are ONLY 4 rap classics, then he herbed himself by saying Physco Drama is better than Bone [yea fucking right] and saying his review on Eternal is better than mine. LMMFAO. Then 7th punked him just now. Pathetic......
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 23, 2001, 06:57:07 PM
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Oh its a classic whether people don't wanna admit it or not.


8-2 in favor of classic........

Sorry Minoritism, but its looking like E.1999 Eternal is classic by general consensus after all.......still alot more people that are gonna vote probably, but the percentage so far says pretty much says it all.....
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: .: God Is One :. on December 23, 2001, 08:59:11 PM
This is definately some classic shit, this album touched me in a way that no other album has, BTNH´s dark, smooth n´ poetic rap style brought something new to the rapgame.
And when i say that it touched me in a way that no other album has, it doesnt mean that its the best album ever, it means that they brought their own style and succeed, like Dre did with the chronic, you know what im saying?
If the Chronic is classic, then this shit here are classic 2!!!
AND I DONT SAY THAT THIS ALBUM IS EQUAL TO THE CHRONIC, JUST THAT BOTH(AND MANY OTHERS) BROUGHT SOMETHING NEW AND SUCCEEDED!!!

Peace & Merry Christmas yall!
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: HNIC on December 23, 2001, 09:37:40 PM
bones best work was on their first ep. eternal is no classic.

you guys throw the classic word about too cheaply, i suppose some of you think space boogie was a classic too. to have a classic youve got to have on point lyrics otherwise you could be any ass of the street with good production a bit of singing here and there and the bang - to all you its a classic.

bone did have some impact but not like you guys make out. i still believe them to be a gimmick masterminded by easy e - now thats what i call a business man.

minoritism has high standards which i have. i aint just gonna call sommat classic cos it had impact or good production.

what do you class as classic minoritism?
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Post by: Citizen-Y on December 23, 2001, 10:12:45 PM
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bones best work was on their first ep. eternal is no classic.

you guys throw the classic word about too cheaply, i suppose some of you think space boogie was a classic too. to have a classic youve got to have on point lyrics otherwise you could be any ass of the street with good production a bit of singing here and there and the bang - to all you its a classic.

bone did have some impact but not like you guys make out. i still believe them to be a gimmick masterminded by easy e - now thats what i call a business man.

minoritism has high standards which i have. i aint just gonna call sommat classic cos it had impact or good production.

what do you class as classic minoritism?


A classic album is an album where I can listen to almost 90% of the songs and say, "Damn, that shit is bad."  And I can listen to it over and over again for about 2 months straight.

And that same record never gets old, you can put it away but you can never keep it too far from you.
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: Citizen-Y on December 23, 2001, 10:16:11 PM
Oh yeah, FUCKING CLASSIC.
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: engelwood on December 23, 2001, 10:34:59 PM
Its a Classic. No question.

On a side note, I was helping a friend move, and we were driving in his car, and listening to it. I got out and put the CD in my pocket, and when helping him move his couch, I broke it! It was the OG one too, w/o the crossroads remix... Ive gotta get that album again....

-Engelwood
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: HNIC on December 23, 2001, 11:41:45 PM
'A classic album is an album where I can listen to almost 90% of the songs and say, "Damn, that shit is bad."  

your wrong.

A classic album is an album where IM GANGSTA can listen to almost 100% of the songs and say, "Damn, that shit is bad."

thats why there has only ever been about 10 classic albums (thats being generous) in rap history.

bones lyrics are too bland for their work to be classed as classic.
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: NEW_MINORITY on December 24, 2001, 04:43:40 AM
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^^^LMAO at all those rollie eyes!! Hahahaha. Minoritism got punked 3 times. I exposed him as a herb who thinks there are ONLY 4 rap classics, then he herbed himself by saying Physco Drama is better than Bone [yea fucking right] and saying his review on Eternal is better than mine. LMMFAO. Then 7th punked him just now. Pathetic......


yeah you "PUNK" me 3 times....hahahaha you have no life whatsoever.....you take internet shit too seriously....anyways, BONE isn't classic tell em learn how to speak right first
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: NEW_MINORITY on December 24, 2001, 04:49:35 AM
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A BIG FUCK U TOO THEN PUNK............And here's some rolly eyes, shove it up yur ass.......... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)



Well it's clear u dont when u only count "4" albums as classics...........Dat aint hard 2 figure out ::) ::) ::)




And by tha way, how are u gonna sit there and tell me Psycho Drama is better than bone, I got hella their shit and they sound exactly like bone, they just dont got tha harmony, they just some Fast ass spitters who keep spittin and spittin..........At first it's some good hype up shit, but as u keep listenin it gets boring, same goes wit Twista, although Twista's fuckin sick, he just dont got tha harmony..........


Yo I had enough man, fuck u, I dont wanna waste my time on u...........And oh, I KILLED yur ass in our battle in tha keystyle forum.............I have no idea how u had tha nerve 2 make peeps vote............







hahaha this kid is too funny....you NEVER KILLED my ass at the keystyle forum......is that why you have to ALWAYS rely on your crew votes???? shut the fuck up....fake rhymer....thats why you have to "type" your shit instead of actually rapping your shit cuz you CAN'T you whack.....is that why you got knocked out by a middleweight in the FIRST ROUND?????mawhahahahahahahah anyways, you and gayrazor are too obsessed by bone.....and when the FUCK did i say psycho drama is better than bone???? i mentioned them cuz they have the same style and NO ONE talks about them.......btw DON'T FRONT like you know who psycho drama is boy....oh yeah....dickriders like you and gayrazor didn't even know bone until you heard "crossroads" and when you saw the record sales....you call it a classic.....non-educated motherfuckers.....
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: NEW_MINORITY on December 24, 2001, 04:59:29 AM
p.s. YA'LL STILL haven't told me WHY this album is classic....all ya'll did was get meaningless votes to try to prove something but you ain't doing shit.......i mean you think if i see gangs of peeps say its classic then i'm gonna start thinking like that??? fuck no...so i really don't know what youre trying to achieve....after so many posts, gayrazor and that dicksucking bitch 7th STILL haven't told me a single impact they had or whatever......hahahahahaha this shit is too funny

btw the vote is 10-5 in favor of classic...learn how to do math first boy...but the votes don't even matter and i don't have to explain


oh yeah its also real funny how gayrazor counts ALL the votes that peeps say its classic but less than half of votes that peeps say its NOT classic....why?? do you want it classic that bad??? kekekekekee face the facts..its NOT CLASSIC also the7th me having no knowledge in hip-hop???? bitch pleez thats like saying me didn't fuck your mom(which i did btw) i have more knowledge than your whole fake rap wannabe family generation
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: NEW_MINORITY on December 24, 2001, 06:11:43 AM
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bones best work was on their first ep. eternal is no classic.

you guys throw the classic word about too cheaply, i suppose some of you think space boogie was a classic too. to have a classic youve got to have on point lyrics otherwise you could be any ass of the street with good production a bit of singing here and there and the bang - to all you its a classic.

bone did have some impact but not like you guys make out. i still believe them to be a gimmick masterminded by easy e - now thats what i call a business man.

minoritism has high standards which i have. i aint just gonna call sommat classic cos it had impact or good production.

what do you class as classic minoritism?



FINALLY!!!! someone has came correct by the meaning of "classic" yes...i have VERY high standands.....and speaking of classic albums i want to straighten out when i said i only consider 4 albums classic and they were:

illmatic
chronic
7 day theory
doggystyle

the reason why these albums are classics because they live up to every single hip-hop junkies expectations...if not even more....these are "heaven sent" albums seriously......i could listen to every single track and won't be disappointed....i still do matter of fact bump this shit in my car without any hesitation or embarrassment....regardless of fake motherfuckers say that "ohhh that shit is old" but i don't pay attention to one hit wonders and still bump those albums regardless...illmatic....i've already explain this in the review section..the lyricism THE BEST, makaveli=amazing album overall, chronic= best production, doggystyle= best production and snoop's hungry vocal delievery........perfect albums 5/5



now this is honorable mentions:(the albums that are 4.5-4.99 but NOT classic)

pac-me against the world 4.8/5
all eyez on me 4.9/5
mobb deep-da infamous 4.6/5
wu-tang-36 chambers 4.9/5
dj quik-safe + sound 4.5/5
notorious big-ready 2 die- 4.8/5
life after death 4.5/5
scarface(his 2nd album)-4.5/5
warren g the regulator-4.6/5
dogg pound dogg food-4.55/5
outkast-atliens-4.6/5
eric b. and rakim paid in full-4.9/5


!!!note!!!  i might've forget some albums but oh well....






here is solid albums(4-4.49):

bone creepin on a come up 4.3/5
stillmatic 4.46/5
reasonable doubt 4.4/5
bone e.1999 4.2/5 (i know i know i gave 3.8 but that was so i could piss those 2 gay fucks off)
vol.1 in my lifetime 4/5

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man fuck this you get my point.........it would take me forever to name every single album....

Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: NEW_MINORITY on December 24, 2001, 06:15:18 AM
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Ive already proved its a classic, in my album review. The sales have NOTHING to do with it being classic. I dont care if the album only went gold, it would STILL be a classic. Quit saying I rate albums based on sales only, and go read my review already........or are you afraid to do so, cuz you KNOW im right and you wont be able to argue anymore? Every song on the album is a classic track.........go read the review homie.....

P.S. I like Makaveli, Doggystyle, The Chronic, and Illmatic just fine, but E.1999 Eternal is just as good if not better than any of those. The only one of those that is probably better is the Chronic, the most influential hip hop album of the 90's. Doggystyle?? Classic album, but only cuz of Snoop's flow and the production. Lyrically, the album is COMPLETE SHIT. Illmatic? I think this and Eternal are equal but Im a bigger Bone fan so Ill take Eternal. Makaveli?? One of my fav albums, but it doesnt touch E.1999 Eternal. Not even close. And im a bigger 2Pac fan than I am a Bone fan.


oh HELL NO..i know you didn't......now i know you are just a straight up bone dickrider and a ignorant one matter of fact.....just read what i quote about gayrazor's comments what??? bone's album better than makaveli, illmatic???? nigga you CRAZY?!?!?!?!?!!?
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on December 24, 2001, 06:55:42 AM
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you NEVER KILLED my ass at the keystyle forum......is that why you have to ALWAYS rely on your crew votes? shut the fuck up....fake rhymer....thats why you have to "type" your shit instead of actually rapping your shit cuz you CAN'T you whack.....is that why you got knocked out by a middleweight in the FIRST ROUND??


Crew Votes? show me one.........I told Doggystylin not 2 vote, and IBO knows not to.........
And as I said again u dont know me, I do fuckin rap my shit on audio faggot, my brother is a Recording Engineer dumbass, Just ask Doggystylin.......Rappin aint even wat I wanna do when I get outta school, I just do it 4 fun........
And I kicked yo ass, If u wanna battle again, be my guest punk....... ::)


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is that why you got knocked out by a middleweight in the FIRST ROUND


Punk, dats Infinite's fault, b/c he didnt let maxi vote, he just started tha second round without tha votes being done.........And I should be in tha fuckin Heavyweights but "someone" replaced u instead of me..........lmao, Ill beat anyone in tha keystyle forum, Tha only challenges are Maxi, Pr1mo, and AlerG, but Ill see take on them any day.........Shit man, dont front about rhymes, dat aint yur area...........









Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on December 24, 2001, 06:59:42 AM
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IM GANGSTA said:
A classic album is an album where IM GANGSTA can listen to almost 100% of the songs and say, "Damn, that shit is bad."


lmao, This guy has no idea wat a classic album is..........Let BigJake explain dat shit to yall...........Yall dont got a clue...........


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illmatic
chronic
7 day theory
doggystyle

the reason why these albums are classics because they live up to every single hip-hop junkies expectations...


U mean 2 tell me those 4 albums satisfy Every single Hip-Hop Junkie there is? c'mon man, think about it, SOO many peeps out here Hate Nas's shit, but they dont exclude dat it's a classic.........
It is a classic, but just aint their taste.........<<Dat rite there is da conclusion of this thread..........
Just admitit , East 1999 Eternal is a classic, but it aint yur taste.........And I could undrestand dat it aint yur taste b/c of Bone's Alternative style...........
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: West Coast Veteran on December 24, 2001, 08:59:47 AM
CLASSIC!
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: NEW_MINORITY on December 24, 2001, 09:02:26 AM
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Crew Votes? show me one.........I told Doggystylin not 2 vote, and IBO knows not to.........
And as I said again u dont know me, I do fuckin rap my shit on audio faggot, my brother is a Recording Engineer dumbass, Just ask Doggystylin.......Rappin aint even wat I wanna do when I get outta school, I just do it 4 fun........
And I kicked yo ass, If u wanna battle again, be my guest punk....... ::)



Punk, dats Infinite's fault, b/c he didnt let maxi vote, he just started tha second round without tha votes being done.........And I should be in tha fuckin Heavyweights but "someone" replaced u instead of me..........lmao, Ill beat anyone in tha keystyle forum, Tha only challenges are Maxi, Pr1mo, and AlerG, but Ill see take on them any day.........Shit man, dont front about rhymes, dat aint yur area...........












haha this ain't my area??? hahahahaha you should hear REAL songs i did that i have on TAPE, you can't judge me over the internet.....and like you this ain't my occupation either, just extra shit....

btw you NEVER beaten me EVER....if you wanna battle bring it anytime.....you call yourself the GOAT but steadily you lost to maxi (49837489374 times lol), skillatiz, alerg, primo, and you haven't beaten me ........so whatever, at least i don't take keystyles seriously like others (you depend your life on it)

p.s. NOBODY replaced me over you in the heavyweights.....besides i don't give a fuck if i'm heavy middle light whatever....stop taking shit so serious fool
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: NEW_MINORITY on December 24, 2001, 09:07:58 AM
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lmao, This guy has no idea wat a classic album is..........Let BigJake explain dat shit to yall...........Yall dont got a clue...........




U mean 2 tell me those 4 albums satisfy Every single Hip-Hop Junkie there is? c'mon man, think about it, SOO many peeps out here Hate Nas's shit, but they dont exclude dat it's a classic.........
It is a classic, but just aint their taste.........<<Dat rite there is da conclusion of this thread..........
Just admitit , East 1999 Eternal is a classic, but it aint yur taste.........And I could undrestand dat it aint yur taste b/c of Bone's Alternative style...........


wtf???? yo I'M FROM THE MIDWEST.....(minneapolis) so how the fuck couldn't this be my taste??? i love twista, crucial conflict, do or die, bone (ONLY NAMING some of the fast rapping type rappers) whatever, i just don't think bone's 2nd album is classic thats all....you don't gotta have an orgasm about it....

btw...it ain't classic althought it IS my taste...
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: Hades on December 24, 2001, 10:37:55 AM
I agree with minoritism, the album ain't classic in his opinion and mine. and hellrazor, I remember back on the Thugology board when u said Wu Tang wasn't shit compared to Bone and u also said Pac wasn't shit compared to Bone, don't reply saying u didn't say that cause u know i can prove that.

What impact did Bone have, really none, since Twista was rapping fast even before Bone came out. I rather listen to Twista then Bone cause I can understand what Twista says and with Bone, they fuckin mumbling. And what harmony? all I fuckin hear is annoyance.

Here's a little truth about Bone, Krayzie is a fuckin retard. He's let the X go straight to his head. Wish is a lazy fat fuck who won't get off the PS2 to record anything. Layzie is a fuckin drunk who's only word in his vocabulary is "nigga".

I'll finish later, gotta go.
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: ImmortalOne on December 24, 2001, 01:20:55 PM
Ok, I just tallied up all the votes, and the score is 12-4 in favor of CLASSIC.

Im Gangsta and Minoritism are complete herbs to think there are less than 10 rap albums that are classic. What a crock of bullshit. Yall need to stay the fuck away from hip hop and stick to rock music or something. I can name 30 hip hop classics off the top of my head w/o even thinking, and there are probably way more than that.

Anyways, E.1999 Eternal IS a classic, and thats already been decided by an OVERWHELMING general consensus with a crushing score of 12-4.........

Jake, you may lock this now.
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: Don Jacob on December 24, 2001, 04:12:39 PM
is it a classic?

yes



did it have a BIG impact?

no, not really it was just a really good album
Title: Re: E.1999 Eternal not a classic album???
Post by: Don Jacob on December 24, 2001, 04:14:49 PM
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Ok, Jake, you may lock this now.



make that 13 to 4 ;)


and sure if you want me to  :)