West Coast Connection Forum
Lifestyle => Tha G-Spot => Topic started by: Noname on September 18, 2006, 12:03:32 PM
-
I saw this documentary on the TV yesterday, and it was about MS13. They were saying MS13 is the most dangerous and biggest gang in the US. They have more then 100,000 members, and their active in 6 countries. But i never heard about them. And i thought the Crips were the biggest gang in the US. Were bullshittin us, or is it really true?
-
I think thats the fed's codename for the mexican mafia or some shit, i remember something like that from school. And yeah they run shit, they got alllll the coke.
-
They aired that same documentary on Belgian television a few weeks ago but I missed it unfortunately.
-
I think thats the fed's codename for the mexican mafia or some shit, i remember something like that from school. And yeah they run shit, they got alllll the coke.
nah man, it isnt a mexican gang. MS stands for Mara Salvatrucha. And they are Salvadoran immigrants.
-
fuck it then
-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS13
the internet is a great thing.
-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS13
the internet is a great thing.
yeah i been there, but they didnt have the answers i was lookin for. And i dont really believe wikipedia most of the time.
-
Those dudes are deep homie. They don't play cats is down. You see feds goin around busting these cats tryin' to deport them back to Salvador.
-
Those dudes are deep homie. They don't play cats is down. You see feds goin around busting these cats tryin' to deport them back to Salvador.
Yeah they showed that shit, but it didnt help. Well it helped MS13 expand to other countries. Theyre some crazy motherfuckers. But are they really bigger that the crips? I thought they were the biggest gang in the US.
-
Those dudes are deep homie. They don't play cats is down. You see feds goin around busting these cats tryin' to deport them back to Salvador.
Yeah they showed that shit, but it didnt help. Well it helped MS13 expand to other countries. Theyre some crazy motherfuckers. But are they really bigger that the crips? I thought they were the biggest gang in the US.
I'm not sure. Could be, I wouldn't be surpirsed if they were.
-
There was a TV show on here last week that said they had conections in Spain.
-
fortunately in beautiful northern california we have nortenos to protect us from those dirty scraps, thats why our real estate is so high
-
Mara Salvartrucha is huge. No clue, still, why they include the 13 into their name (as that would mean they're aligned with the Mexican Mafia), but that's beside the point. They're deep throughout Los Angeles and since they get into it with everyone (18 St. and Armenian Pride would be the most evident), you hear about them often. A lot of their members are immigrants, so as they get into trouble they get deported. But, they're not always just Salvadorean though. They're real deep in Honduras and Guatemala. If they don't get deported to their home country, most of their families relocate themselves to Texas or New York, and then they set up shop again in those areas. I wouldn't doubt if they're bigger than the Crips by now. What people fail to realize is that L.A. has the largest Salvadorean population outside of El Salvador.
-
Yup, MS is huge, seen two different documentarys on them, one focused on MS activity in El Salvador the other one which you's have seen in the us... from what was explained, the gang was formed by kids who's familys (i.e. parents) had moved to the states to find work as cleaners and other poor standard of jobs.. so these children that were left to fend for them selves quickly formed groups to help survive and became each others new family and some how grew to huge numbers split up into neighbourhood cliques each with one general..
how they got so big in the states wasnt explained entirely but mainly was to do with certain individuals who were wanted for murder etc, by fleeing El Salvador to escape and gaining access into the states because of kin already there workin.. but when they saw gangs like the crips, bloods, latin kings etc controlling certain areas.. they formed together to protect each other then began recruiting relatives n former gang members from El Salvador to join them.. and basically blew up beyond anyones imagination..
It also criticised the feds overal involvement for taking actions such as deportation because it was seen that the american chapter had become more evolved and organised so by sending back these gangsters it allowed them to help create and change the struture of the original gang and inturn increase their notoriety.
in both programms it never explained why they adopted the number "13".. but did discuss to rules the gang had to abided by and how information gathered shows that there is supposedly one boss who has controll of the whole MS-13..
-
Those dudes are deep homie. They don't play cats is down. You see feds goin around busting these cats tryin' to deport them back to Salvador.
Yeah they showed that shit, but it didnt help. Well it helped MS13 expand to other countries. Theyre some crazy motherfuckers. But are they really bigger that the crips? I thought they were the biggest gang in the US.
WTF? The Mexican mafia is bigger than the crips homie. Theres no MS-13 up here in the bay area. If there is, their not that big around here.
-
Trust me theres a couple gangs bigger than crips. And these guys don't fuck around, they'll suicide bomb your crew if they have to
-
lol funny thread. ne wayz MM taxes all the big latino gangs thats y they have 13 on the end to show that they r or else they whole gang gets whackd
-
So can we say MS 13 is the biggest, richest and most powerfull gang in the US?
-
So can we say MS 13 is the biggest, richest and most powerfull gang in the US?
street gang probably
-
I read a story about the different gangs (street/all gangs) around the world and the MS were mentioned. I'll have to search that FHM again.
-
Those dudes are deep homie. They don't play cats is down. You see feds goin around busting these cats tryin' to deport them back to Salvador.
Yeah they showed that shit, but it didnt help. Well it helped MS13 expand to other countries. Theyre some crazy motherfuckers. But are they really bigger that the crips? I thought they were the biggest gang in the US.
I think the Hells Angels are the biggest gang in US.
-
18st gang is the biggest gang in the USA
-
18st gang is the biggest gang in the USA
who are they? And how do you know that?
-
who are they? And how do you know that?
Another Latino Gang based out of L.A. They're huge and for the most part aren't aligned with La Eme. They operate on their own. Always got problems with MS too.
-
Mara Salvartrucha is huge. No clue, still, why they include the 13 into their name (as that would mean they're aligned with the Mexican Mafia), but that's beside the point. They're deep throughout Los Angeles and since they get into it with everyone (18 St. and Armenian Pride would be the most evident), you hear about them often. A lot of their members are immigrants, so as they get into trouble they get deported. But, they're not always just Salvadorean though. They're real deep in Honduras and Guatemala. If they don't get deported to their home country, most of their families relocate themselves to Texas or New York, and then they set up shop again in those areas. I wouldn't doubt if they're bigger than the Crips by now. What people fail to realize is that L.A. has the largest Salvadorean population outside of El Salvador.
so SGV
La Eme is a prison coalition of most sureno gangs correct? theyre like the overseers.
i know there are some sureno sets that consider themselves tax free
18th street and ms 13 are both southern cali latino gangs but they dont affiliate with La Eme? theyre both independent? and how does this work in the prisons?
-
fortunately in beautiful northern california we have nortenos to protect us from those dirty scraps, thats why our real estate is so high
how is nurteno culture different then sureno ones? are they like, less "Eseish"
here in toronto ms 13 has set up shop, and tryin to click up spic gangs. but we also have some so called Latin Kings too, and a bunch of smaller clicks, i think they vbeefing with ms 13 tryin to run em out. i seen ms 13 tags near west side jungle.
-
man your us gangs are nothing compared to the UK
in my city theres a family who claim to be able to outshoot the police
now dats gangsta
-
man your us gangs are nothing compared to the UK
in my city theres a family who claim to be able to outshoot the police
now dats gangsta
If all they'rd doin is claiming, that is not gangsta at all. Shit anybody could claim to outshoot the police. That doesn't mean they're goin or can to do it.
-
so latino gangs are running shit these days. What happened to the Crips man? Arent they running shit anymore or were they never running shit?
-
man your us gangs are nothing compared to the UK
in my city theres a family who claim to be able to outshoot the police
now dats gangsta
man shut up, thats stupid.... Uk gangs dont even register on the world map mate.. i cant remember the name of that family you talking about, but i know after that documentary aired on them, the main family bloke was killed.. bloke was a fool anyway talkin bout out gunning the police.. only fake people boast of what they think they can do.. real people have no need to talk about these matters.
-
man your us gangs are nothing compared to the UK
in my city theres a family who claim to be able to outshoot the police
now dats gangsta
man shut up, thats stupid.... Uk gangs dont even register on the world map mate.. i cant remember that family you talking about, but i know after that documentary aired on them, the main family bloke was killed.. bloke was a fool anyway talkin bout out gunning the police.. only fake people boast of what they think they can do.. real people have no need to talk about these matters.
Real spit homie...Real cats don't brag about what they do or could do.
-
man your us gangs are nothing compared to the UK
in my city theres a family who claim to be able to outshoot the police
now dats gangsta
man shut up, thats stupid.... Uk gangs dont even register on the world map mate.. i cant remember that family you talking about, but i know after that documentary aired on them, the main family bloke was killed.. bloke was a fool anyway talkin bout out gunning the police.. only fake people boast of what they think they can do.. real people have no need to talk about these matters.
Real spit homie...Real cats don't brag about what they do or could do.
man i remember i used to work at a bar where they met up to film that documentary on the Noonans.
They came in and just went into out restaurant which was closed at the time, no one even tried to ask them to leave
I didnt realise what sort of shit they did at this time, if I had known at that time I woulda run a hundred miles in the other direction man
-
Check the current issue of Maxim:
They have a 2-page story on pages 58 & 59.
They say that MS-13 is about 60,000 deep spread out over the U.S. and Central America. They are primarily composed of Salvadoreans.
They don't say if they are the biggest, but they are considered the most deadly and violent street gang in the U.S. (and likely the world). The 18th Street Gang is right there with them though.
They started up in the early 80's in L.A.'s MacArthur Park.
The name: "MS-13 stands for Mara Salvatrucha 13. 'Mara' for 'gang,' 'Salva' for El Salvador, 'trucha' for 'fear us,' and '13' to signify the letter M (the 13th letter of the alphabet), a tribute to its early alliance with La Eme, the Mexican Mafia.
^ This all came from the current Maxim issue (October 2006) in which they quote the FBI which apparently has created an "MS-13 National Gang Task Force" dedicated just to deal with MS-13.
-
MS is everywhere. They are real political these days though because of the huge deportation rate. They go after big fish, they're starting to stray away from pety street shit. Whoever said there's no MS in Northern California ain't out there like that. Their main block in San Francisco is 20th street in the Mission District. The biggest Sureno set is a block away on 19th. They use MS-13 due to their alliance with the Surenos which initially comes from the prison officials and generals that control that part of the country. Not all MS are allied with Surenos however, especially in many parts of LA. Over the years some connected because of politics, that's why street gangs right now are all fucked up to the core, bangin these days is the most stressful thing you could be a part of. Initially MS was created to protect themselves from Surenos, so go figure. Them muthafucaz fuck wit real drug lords in South America and distribute to anywhere and everywhere. Don't be surprised to find out that some of ure more famous gangs like the Crips get their work from these cats although they're not even supposed to be cool wit em like that, it's business. Some shit doesn't even need to be mentioned, but put it this way.. on the street level, who do you think alot of the terrorist malitias in the Middle East fuck with when it comes to America? It ain't the blacks, whites or the asians!
-
one thing u guys have it twisted is that 18th st. was originaly an ALL LATINO gang but now a days they has every ethnicity u can imagine in the gang. ive meet armenians and blacks from 18th st. even a white dude
-
one thing u guys have it twisted is that 18th st. was originaly an ALL LATINO gang but now a days they has every ethnicity u can imagine in the gang. ive meet armenians and blacks from 18th st. even a white dude
That's because they'll let ANYONE in 18. LOL.
FBI has a task force against MS... But they ain't doing shit. In Honduras they locked up a whole bunch of MS members in a Jail and burned the shit down. That's a task force. hahaha.
Tuesday May 18, 01:26 PM
Fire Kills 103 Gang Members in Honduras Prison
SAN PEDRO SULA, Honduras (Reuters) - A huge fire at a prison in northern Honduras killed 103 inmates on Monday, all of them members of a violent street gang the government has targeted in a controversial crackdown.
Police said the early-morning fire at the prison in the northern city of San Pedro Sula followed an explosion caused by a short circuit. Some inmates speculate prisoners threw a homemade incendiary device, or fire bomb, in the gang members' cell area.
The fire spread rapidly through an area housing members of the infamous Mara Salvatrucha youth gang. Most died from suffocation and about 25 more were being treated in hospital.
About 50 bodies, many of them charred, lay in rows on the floor of an outhouse in the ramshackle jail. Most were semi-naked and bore tattoos often sported by Central American gang members.
It was the worst jail disaster in Honduras and the second time that dozens of gang members have been killed inside a Honduran prison in a little over a year. Inmates complained that security forces were slow to help on Monday and family members suspected it was no accident.
About 200 people gathered outside the prison and screamed: "Murderers, murderers."
Inmates who survived the fire said guards at the prison shouted abuse at the prisoners trapped inside a burning ward.
"The police were saying to us, 'It's better that you die, dogs,"' said Javier Hernandez, a 23-year-old also known as "Sniper," who is serving 17 years for a gang murder. He said he stayed alive by crawling into a ventilation shaft in a toilet.
Other inmates said guards opened up cells 2 hours after the fire started.
CRACKDOWN ON GANGS
All of the dead were members of the Mara Salvatrucha, one of two dominant gangs that operate in this poor Central American country. More than 1,000 suspected gang members have been arrested and sent to jail since President Ricardo Maduro ordered a crackdown last August.
Maduro cut short a visit to Europe to return home after hearing of the fire.
"The objective is to be sure the necessary investigations are carried out immediately," Maduro said in Rome, where he met with Pope John Paul.
Gang members are often housed together in prisons because of frequent clashes with other groups of inmates. Under tough anti-gang legislation, suspected gang members are put in prison while they wait for their trials on charges ranging from murder and drug smuggling to robbery or "criminal association."
Prisoners said most of the people who died in the fire, about 60 percent, were in jail for "criminal association" and not because they had been charged with any crimes.
"Why was the fire only in the area of the gang members? Why wasn't it in another area where the other prisoners are?" asked Sara Gomez, the mother of a Mara Salvatrucha member.
The Mara Salvatrucha was formed in Los Angeles in the 1980s by Salvadoran immigrants and spread from there back to Central America. Its members are identified by indigo tattoos, often on their faces.
In April of 2003, 68 people were killed -- most of them gang members -- at another prison in the northern city of La Ceiba.
Then, a riot began with gang members and other prisoners attacking each other, but most of the victims were killed when a fire was set deliberately by one group of prisoners and when security forces burst in and opened fire.
More than 50 officials, army soldiers and police officers have been charged in connection with their roles in that incident. Attorney General Ovidio Navarro said an investigation had been ordered into the latest tragedy.
Vaijo Arnas Strom, a Finnish evangelical priest and ex-convict who works in the jail, said the theory that the fire was started by a short circuit was believable,
"This is no surprise. The place was full of cables, a mess. People had everything wired up in there, TVs, fans, air conditioners. There were too many people in there."
San Pedro Sula has been a center of street gang violence in Honduras. Since Maduro launched his crackdown, at least 10 decapitated bodies have been dumped in streets across the country with warning messages attached to them.
Police blame the gangs, but gang members say the security forces are doing it to justify their campaign.