West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Dogg_Pound_Gangsta on December 16, 2001, 11:20:33 PM
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me and suga foot were talkin about this and i think that some rappers are gettin lazy and dependin on their shit to sound the same as it used to without doin the work. suga said that they are appealin to different audiences now so they had to change their style. i think that both of us are right. what do y'all think???
Peace
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You have to keep evolving.. These songs about females, macking hoes, like Warren G's new album have really gotten old with me, shallow bullshit.
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my opinion always changes on this..sometimes i think..hip hop is so diverse...theres a huge underground scene...my own country's scene is gettin bigger and wether u into underground, deep, dark, party hip hop or whatever....its available and there for u....
other times im bitter and can barely stand to watch mtv for longer than 10 mins with all the 'shallow bullshit' as stated above..
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depends who you're talking about.... some artists evolve... a la common... other's just pander to whatevers popular... like jigga.
personally i get tired of certain stuff... like shock value rap gets old in a hurry...
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it depends on how you look at it, like kurupt, he has fallen off but he has changed his style to try to appeal to a larger audience
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artists fall off coz they sell out, they evolve but not for the good of the hiphop scene, but for the good of their own pockets
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i think that it has to change cuz times change and so do the artists. they mature and rap about things more relevant to them now(ie Dr Dre)
Peace
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"time brings change and change brings time" snoop dogg
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sure the game is fallin... dawm, i don'T know about ya'll but back in the days , rakim , ll cool j, big daddy kane .. the old school , gave us some good shit thats everybody was bumpin in front of their home at summer time and shit now all the song are made to dance expect fo some westcost n south artist but still , the beat changes n people didn't adapt yet t this new style , all they do is bump that shit cause their best friend bump it... so they putt it in the cd player in they car n drive
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hip hop is almost substanceless these days but i look at it like this
in rock shit can be OVERLY substanated with bands like stain'd and Nickleback talking about every single depressing thought of life and then in hip hop you got people like Juvenile and Fabulous being OVERLY materialistic
so i just look at it like this, if you limit yourself to just hip hop but your looking for deeper shit grab yourself a rock or soul album (hint hint not nickleback or staind) but if you wanna get down and party grab yourself some of that rap....both pretty much serve their purpose well
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Right now people are sayin' "What happened to the good ol days?" in reference to the death row era. Back then people were sayin "What happened to the good ol days?" in reference to Afrikka Bambaata & Sugar Hill Gang. In a few years we'll all be saying "What happened to the good ol days?" in reference to what's going on now. Shit doesn't get worse, it just changes. Hip Hop has to grow up with it's audience.
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Right now people are sayin' "What happened to the good ol days?" in reference to the death row era. Back then people were sayin "What happened to the good ol days?" in reference to Afrikka Bambaata & Sugar Hill Gang. In a few years we'll all be saying "What happened to the good ol days?" in reference to what's going on now. Shit doesn't get worse, it just changes. Hip Hop has to grow up with it's audience.
well put cuz.
Peace
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Right now people are sayin' "What happened to the good ol days?" in reference to the death row era. Back then people were sayin "What happened to the good ol days?" in reference to Afrikka Bambaata & Sugar Hill Gang. In a few years we'll all be saying "What happened to the good ol days?" in reference to what's going on now. Shit doesn't get worse, it just changes. Hip Hop has to grow up with it's audience.
Good point, but I don't agree.
I think too many "artists" are putting out too many albums.
Some summed it up with the phrase "shallow bullshit" and I think that was spot on.
Idiotic lyrics closer to nursery rhymes than songs, and music put together in about 5 minutes.
That's the problem.
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Right now people are sayin' "What happened to the good ol days?" in reference to the death row era. Back then people were sayin "What happened to the good ol days?" in reference to Afrikka Bambaata & Sugar Hill Gang. In a few years we'll all be saying "What happened to the good ol days?" in reference to what's going on now. Shit doesn't get worse, it just changes. Hip Hop has to grow up with it's audience.
Word... "Everything is everything just given a different name" besides I think theirs alot of great rap records coming out but they're below the radar, there's deep, spiritual, philisophical shit.. it's all out there, you just got to look....Hip-hop is the most diverse form of music, that's why I never need to listen to anything but hip-hop...peace
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"shallow bullshit" lol geez...
what i get tired of...is rappers who eitha play to the radio too much (puffy, jigga) shit like that. now THAS bullshit. Also these damn dictionary rappers. i mean, talk about sum REAL shit. im sicka hearin sum rappers tryna use big ass wordz, repeatedly, jus to make they song rhyme (wu-tang for instance). i mean, they can be tight. but shit, too many times do u hear wordz that they eitha dont know the meaning of, or jus think that the listeners dont cus they dont use it right. or they jus change it, n make up a fukin word....to make it rhyme. that shit iz wack. gimme sum shit i can relate too...that shit is jus jibberish sumtimez.
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i think that jayz is puttin out too much shit right now. thats what no limit did and look they faded quik cuz they ran outta ideas. to me vol. 3 is new shit, but hes put out 2 more after that. i think more artists need to take their time & put out only the best they can do(i.e. Dr Dre)
Peace
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too much bling shit, bitches, weed whatever its played out
more conscious rap!!!!!
and no more third class albums
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i think that jayz is puttin out too much shit right now. thats what no limit did and look they faded quik cuz they ran outta ideas. to me vol. 3 is new shit, but hes put out 2 more after that. i think more artists need to take their time & put out only the best they can do(i.e. Dr Dre)
Peace
im not sure if rapperz like jay-z and p...are fading because they put too much out, too fast....or....they put out too much, too fast...because they feel themselves fading. maybe jay-z is tryna milk it for all its worth before hez gone...which could be comin soon....
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"shallow bullshit" lol geez...
what i get tired of...is rappers who eitha play to the radio too much (puffy, jigga) shit like that. now THAS bullshit. Also these damn dictionary rappers. i mean, talk about sum REAL shit. im sicka hearin sum rappers tryna use big ass wordz, repeatedly, jus to make they song rhyme (wu-tang for instance). i mean, they can be tight. but shit, too many times do u hear wordz that they eitha dont know the meaning of, or jus think that the listeners dont cus they dont use it right. or they jus change it, n make up a fukin word....to make it rhyme. that shit iz wack. gimme sum shit i can relate too...that shit is jus jibberish sumtimez.
U sure u jus don't know what the 'long' words are?!?!?