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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Liquid-Dogg on December 13, 2001, 01:10:39 PM
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I think his stuffs great, but the shit Tha Row's releasin now is jus gettin boring, they should let him R.I.P. Rather than Capitalizin off his Death, Same goes for Biggy. If a person dies then they should leave his shit alone, or if anything jus release it on the net, but the constant video's and shit. no wonder peeps still think he alive. lol. I know this ain't gonna happen cuz tha Row is some greedy Muther fuckers, but anyway, this jus my opinion
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everything from 91-96 was excellent and is STILL very very very very excellent
but all his leftovers being released are very disapointing
becuase
a) first and formost, they were NEVER meant to be released, shit 2pac NEVER wanted out there...hence left overs
b) some tracks were AWESOME but the row's new producer's and artists fuck them up hardcore so they're not even listenable anymore
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I liked "Until The End Of Time." My album of the year.
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whattup god?
i dont totally agree with that but i fucking hate these songs ya keep hearin they like new 2pac and then it comes on and shits got r'n'b hooks synths that are clearly not supposed to be there n shit like that
tis gettin a bit boring tho..
peace
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i still luv his old shit to death but the new shit they puttin out fo him his wack man , i mean it's listenable but it's all about remix are strange beat.. u know pac wouldn't sang on this track naww mean , dawm
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I think his stuffs great, but the shit Tha Row's releasin now is jus gettin boring, they should let him R.I.P. Rather than Capitalizin off his Death, Same goes for Biggy. If a person dies then they should leave his shit alone, or if anything jus release it on the net, but the constant video's and shit. no wonder peeps still think he alive. lol. I know this ain't gonna happen cuz tha Row is some greedy Muther fuckers, but anyway, this jus my opinion
I disagree with you 100%.... His memory, music, and legacy lives on forever.. and will continue to grow.. I still listen to his bootlegs.. posthumous releases and all his previous albums quite often... He's the G.O.A.T.
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yeah it's bigg but i doubt it's growin on again , the fans are already made kid may love it but when they grow up they will listen to jay-z and shit , u already know the scenario ::)
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I dissagree wit u man
i like listenen to his unreleased shit and seein new videos
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pac will never get boring . period .
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I dissagree wit u man
i like listenen to his unreleased shit and seein new videos
i ain't talkin bout u but the next generation
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i ain't talkin bout u but the next generation
o so ur Supreme-Clientele???
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yeah it's bigg but i doubt it's growin on again , the fans are already made kid may love it but when they grow up they will listen to jay-z and shit , u already know the scenario ::)
i think it's the other way around....
some kid will get into rap by hearing one of jay-z's numerous pop songs then relise theres better shit out there and get into pac......
it happens alll the time in rock, and that's why Metallica and Led Zeplin hae the highest back catelouge sales ...becuase some newbie rock fan might get into some flavor of the moment rock band like Limp Bizkit or Linkin Park....then realise there is better rock out there and convert to Metallica and Led Zeplin
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o so ur Supreme-Clientele???
[size=20]hell naww !!![/size]
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tha problem wit 2pac's new stuff is one, there too much outlawz an 2, tha production, they have runined a lot of songs wit shitty production, especially friends an when thugs cry, i have yet to listen to disc 2 more than 10 times b/c of what they did to when thugs cry
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pac will never get boring . period .
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ok i got a problem with people saying this
"his leftovers are wack because HE NEVER wanted them out"
mad people say that shit and it just isnt true
i garantee u wanted haven got a ghetto, changes to be out
y do u think he made 300 tracks so he coudl save them all?
if u look SUGE KNIGHT was the exec producer on his Deathrow albums... the Exec producer DECIDES what songs are ON the album... therefor the songs that made it on AEOM and Makaveli were not Pac's choice.... we dont know what PAC wanted out because SUGE picked them so to say these tracks were never meant to be heard is a misstatement
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I will continue to cop his stuff, even though alot of it is dissapointing production wise. His music is still getting released to continue his legacy and I appreciate that, but they should keep it in it's original format, as Pac would've wanted. I don't see his shit ever getting boring, I just see people moving on as they get older, which is natural, but then the younger kids will pick up on it because it's that dope. Thats why he is so legendary, no-one forgets a legend.
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on 12/13/01 at 20:44:29, Laker 4 LiFE wrote:pac will never get boring . period .
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fo' show
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ok i got a problem with people saying this
"his leftovers are wack because HE NEVER wanted them out"
mad people say that shit and it just isnt true
i garantee u wanted haven got a ghetto, changes to be out
y do u think he made 300 tracks so he coudl save them all?
if u look SUGE KNIGHT was the exec producer on his Deathrow albums... the Exec producer DECIDES what songs are ON the album... therefor the songs that made it on AEOM and Makaveli were not Pac's choice.... we dont know what PAC wanted out because SUGE picked them so to say these tracks were never meant to be heard is a misstatement
ummm actually it is FACT that 2pac wasn't going to release most of those songs....
and the ARTIST and the EXECUTIVE producer choose....sometimes the lable i.e. priority decide too
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Like Big Jake said. Everything from 91=96 was excellent however his leftovers I could have done without. I know this is messed up but I think it kind of ruined his legacy in my eyes alittle bit. I still think pac is one of the greatest in the history of rap but those leftovers messed up his legacy. I wish I hadn't heard some of them now
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i mean THEY shouldn't even be releasing his albums in the first place, let him rest in peace
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I disagree with you 100%.... His memory, music, and legacy lives on forever.. and will continue to grow.. I still listen to his bootlegs.. posthumous releases and all his previous albums quite often... He's the G.O.A.T.
Thats the main problem. You say you listen to his bootlegs. BOOTLEGS! Can you call UTEOT an album of pure bootlegs? Thats bullshit! its an album of some R&B wack shit, plus all that talkin about thug life, soldiers, game, haters. and fuck-yall-niggas really pisses me off since 1997, I got really tired of all that Pac talking. I heard Thug Nature the original version and I thought Damn, why didnt they just put it on there instead of turnin it into some R&B???
I got really tired of Pac same old same old blah blah blah. Yall diehard Pac fans really make me smile, sorry.
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honestly, i dont think this is a "rest in peace" issue. i dont think everybodys prollem is that this stuff is being released, its that its bein released by tha row. if it were a label releasing all this stuff, who every1 was confident had done right by pac....then no one would complain. not to mention, whos gettin paid off this stuff bein released?! u know whatta mean?! say if tha profitz was all goin to some good cause, or even strictly to pacs family...i dont think it would be as big of a deal. n perhapz, if Suge wanted to think in tha long run. He'd so jus that, n ratha then makin tha quik buck now, would gain SUM fanz by doin whas right. cus righ now tha row aint exactly tha most popular label. oh yah, by tha way...tha shit is gettin boring to me too. ;D
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I never got into 2pac... I can't say I was ever a fan of his music, but I hear it everyday because of my younger brothers addiction to his music... anyway... his new albums are sad and it's showing too... Deathrow's sales on his unreleased albums keep going down... I doubt it will go #1 again... i know sales don't matter, but in this instance it almost shows the fans un-interest in this material...
-Big BpG
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tha topic was brought up that Pac didnt want these songs released, but in a interview didnt he say that if anything was to happen to him he had a large amount of music to release if he was unable to make music again
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tha topic was brought up that Pac didnt want these songs released, but in a interview didnt he say that if anything was to happen to him he had a large amount of music to release if he was unable to make music again
I think he was talkin bout being in jail or some seriuos disease, not death. He prolly didnt hear about X-Raided who stays in jail 4 murder but keeps releasing albums every 1 or 2 years.
Anyways I think they should just release his bootlegs as they are, not polish them. At least a listener could feel what Pac would sound like, not Big Hutch introducing Pac.
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Siberian Wolf, Why You Bringing X-Raided Into This. Most Of His Shit Is Dope As Fuck, Even Though It Was Recoded Over The Phone.
Anyway, Whats All This Shit About RnB Hooks. Some Songs With RnB Hooks Can Be Straight Heat. Maybe Not A Full Album But The Odd Song Here And Now With RnB Hooks Are Fine. After All Ain't "I Aint Mad At Cha" Got A RnB Hook?
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Siberian Wolf, Why You Bringing X-Raided Into This. Most Of His Shit Is Dope As Fuck, Even Though It Was Recoded Over The Phone.
Anyway, Whats All This Shit About RnB Hooks. Some Songs With RnB Hooks Can Be Straight Heat. Maybe Not A Full Album But The Odd Song Here And Now With RnB Hooks Are Fine. After All Ain't "I Aint Mad At Cha" Got A RnB Hook?
Man, in no way I tried to offend X-Raided. I thought that maybe Pac had recorded so much music so that if he was put into jail his music would still be released. He prolly aint heard that X-Raided successed in recording WHILE STAYING IN JAIL AND THATS GREAT OF HIM! And an R&B hook sucks most of the time, I never liked that I Aint Mad At Cha hook anyway.
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Thats Okay Then. Just Make Sure It Doesnt Happen Again. ;)
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Anyway, Whats All This Shit About RnB Hooks. Some Songs With RnB Hooks Can Be Straight Heat. Maybe Not A Full Album But The Odd Song Here And Now With RnB Hooks Are Fine. After All Ain't "I Aint Mad At Cha" Got A RnB Hook?
I agree, a hip-hop song with an RnB edge to it isn't always bad, I mean Nate is basically RnB, he's been included on alot of very dope hip-hop tunes, alot of the times he makes those songs even doper.
With the Pac issue, it's not that Death Row is releasing his shit, it's that the people who do release his recent shit fuck up the OG versions thinking they're doing the material justice when in most cases they're not.
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Never!
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honestly, i dont think this is a "rest in peace" issue. i dont think everybodys prollem is that this stuff is being released, its that its bein released by tha row. if it were a label releasing all this stuff, who every1 was confident had done right by pac....then no one would complain. not to mention, whos gettin paid off this stuff bein released?! u know whatta mean?! say if tha profitz was all goin to some good cause, or even strictly to pacs family...i dont think it would be as big of a deal. n perhapz, if Suge wanted to think in tha long run. He'd so jus that, n ratha then makin tha quik buck now, would gain SUM fanz by doin whas right. cus righ now tha row aint exactly tha most popular label. oh yah, by tha way...tha shit is gettin boring to me too. ;D
they should just let him rest in peace
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it's funny , i heard someone over here said that pac shit in rnb is wack n others diss him n they said pac rnb shit always sound tight, well not because i luv it but snoop sound much better on smooth shit like rnb then pac. ya'll can't deny it , snoop voice is do fo it ..but when someone say , "snoop dogg sound tight on this one" everyone replys hell no snoop is done fo hardcore, now we see that all those shit are biaise.... pac fan hate ( even if it a bit ) on snoop n meth fan hate on pac's one , etc , when can't luve everyshit we heard , it's true but that the opigion of each other n the should get diss fo this man , that shit is unfair .. that s why i ain't reply to those kind of post anymore , we ain't goin no where... fuckin bullshit this is >:(
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dude slick i didn't understand a damn word you were trying to say....english isn't your first language is it
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nop ;D
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nope*
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Naw i disagree, i mean, i admit the latest pac shit remixes aint as good ... but i still liked a lotta shit off UTEOT ...
Pac will always be a legend, his old stuff, wuz jusst banging, no one can make music like that, I always bump 2pac, i mean U cant live without most of his songs, they r unique, he wuz unique
So i dunno wht ya'll think, but i'll never get bored of 2pac
R.I.P
~uNo
-{bLaDe}
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nope*
what's wrong with the nop shit .. i know it's nope but i write it nop cause it's faster .. dawm . do hatin is just what u know about man ... ::)
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The original tracks never have and it never will get old for me. The remixed stuff is a different story.
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Thats the main problem. You say you listen to his bootlegs. BOOTLEGS! Can you call UTEOT an album of pure bootlegs? Thats bullshit! its an album of some R&B wack shit, plus all that talkin about thug life, soldiers, game, haters. and fuck-yall-niggas really pisses me off since 1997, I got really tired of all that Pac talking. I heard Thug Nature the original version and I thought Damn, why didnt they just put it on there instead of turnin it into some R&B???
I got really tired of Pac same old same old blah blah blah. Yall diehard Pac fans really make me smile, sorry.
yeah thats what I just realized at until the end of time.....all that thug like gets old.
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yeah i agree all that shit got old, but like 95% of that shit wasn't even suppose to be heard
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pac's shit will never get old, it'll just get better. although the last records put out by pac around 1996 & before were all classics, now they just don't sound the same. although "until the end of time" was still a great album.
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as long as they don change tha lyricz (editin and shit)...ill keep buyin it....cauze itz pac.....ya know?..and itz still better than anythang else out....
p.s fo me lyricz iz num1.....i ain listenin jus" fo tha beatz...