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Title: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Nosak on December 11, 2001, 02:52:24 PM

still from sohh.com



In the second issue of FELON (From Every Level Of Neighborhood), Nas explains in detail the rift between him and Jay-Z, who he refers to as 'The Chameleon Man' for Jay's way to changing with the situation. "When Biggie came out, he was running around in Versace and gators...when DMX came out he started wearing bandannas...Who is he?" questions Nas in the 4 page piece. The article confirms that there will be an answer record to Cormega and Jay as well as a conversation between the two at a Steve Stout party. The conversation allegedly makes claims that Jay-Z does not feel that DMX or Tupac are lyricists.
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Don Jacob on December 11, 2001, 02:56:10 PM

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The conversation allegedly makes claims that Jay-Z does not feel that DMX or Tupac are lyricists.



i could give a fuck what jay-z thinks about dmx but PLEASE! both dmx an pac have deeper lyrics than jay-z will EVER have
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Post by: TheShiznit227 on December 11, 2001, 03:03:41 PM

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i could give a fuck what jay-z thinks about dmx but PLEASE! both dmx an pac have deeper lyrics than jay-z will EVER have


Word...
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Nosak on December 11, 2001, 03:08:58 PM
it's funny to see  how ya'll acting when tupac name is mentioned somewhere , dawm i posted this shit about 5 m agao with the other post and already reply  givin props to pac and shits , but when i do this ya'll call me dickrider or snoop something... ::) wow

and in the pos it says :"allegedly makes claims "  does that mean let think , well jay-z didn't say this.. anyways i don't really luv jay-z so i ain't talkshit shit to pac or z
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Don Jacob on December 11, 2001, 03:26:17 PM

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it's funny to see  how ya'll acting when tupac name is mentioned somewhere , dawm i posted this shit about 5 m agao with the other post and already reply  givin props to pac and shits , but when i do this ya'll call me dickrider or snoop something... ::) wow



yeah but 2pac is The Beatles of rap and snoop is like Pearl Jam ....both have a place i rock history but the beatle's place in history is more significant
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Nosak on December 11, 2001, 03:27:06 PM

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yeah but 2pac is The Beatles of rap and snoop is like Pearl Jam ....both have a place i rock history but the beatle's place in history is more significant

ha ha , pearl jam , nawwww pleez :-X
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Don Jacob on December 11, 2001, 03:28:29 PM
do you know how much of a compliment it is ??


Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Nosak on December 11, 2001, 03:29:50 PM
i ain't dissin you homeboy , i just don't like pearl jam so i can't imagine , sorry  ;D ha ha
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Braindead on December 11, 2001, 03:51:11 PM
Pear Jam is the shit
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: DPGC2001 on December 11, 2001, 03:57:04 PM
If Jay said this he is a fukkin idiot...Dude is getting too cocky...It's not like Jigga has the most complex wordplay out there...Nas is right Jay just fukin bites styles and shit and claims he made them hot...
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Nosak on December 11, 2001, 03:59:37 PM

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If Jay said this he is a fukkin idiot...Dude is getting too cocky...It's not like Jigga has the most complex wordplay out there...Nas is right Jay just fukin bites styles and shit and claims he made them hot...
people round here care but around the world people don't give a fuck no more about pac, yeah they say he's the shit but they claim jay-z as the best now , u betta ask somebody
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: HBKid_Jr on December 11, 2001, 04:44:27 PM

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people round here care but around the world people don't give a fuck no more about pac, yeah they say he's the shit but they claim jay-z as the best now , u betta ask somebody

no offense slickk but if no one gave a fuck about Pac than how come he still sells more than snoop
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Nosak on December 11, 2001, 04:48:24 PM
i'm not offence  , thank fo wondering , i said no one gave a fuck  but still think his the shits not the greatest  ;) jay-z take the 1st place, pac is number 2 n now u gonna tell me that pac sell more then jay-z  , i would like to see the new lp of pac an a jay-z album out the same day , n see wich album would get the first spot, my idea is already made but just fo fun
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: HBKid_Jr on December 11, 2001, 04:52:41 PM
bottom line slick,  20 years from now,  whos still goin be remembered an loved by many,  2pac or jay-z
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Nosak on December 11, 2001, 04:54:16 PM
both duhhh
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: HBKid_Jr on December 11, 2001, 05:15:22 PM

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both duhhh

nah,  lets compare pac an biggie,  honestly,  they both still get a lot of love but atleast to me,  Pac get a lot more,  Pac is a legend,  20 years  from now,  people will say jay-z who
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Big FC on December 11, 2001, 05:25:25 PM
Nirvana = Snoop
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: HBKid_Jr on December 11, 2001, 05:41:58 PM
IN rock who is dre equal to than
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Siberian_Wolf on December 11, 2001, 05:47:33 PM

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Nirvana = Snoop


Slap yoself! Snoop is still alive and kicking! I think he's the Metallica of rap: sounding fresh, gettin better & better and still havin attention of the mainstream!
And DrDre is..........I dont know!
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Don Jacob on December 11, 2001, 06:45:06 PM
Dr. Dre and Metallica sound about right


i mean when they first came out


metallica's sound wasn't fresh but it was a classic stand out on "kill em all" same with dre on "straight outta compton"

then every thing after tha was some of the most complex and and best production ever heard in both genres

then after their ultimate success both kinda disappeared and came back in 96' to anticipated but released luke warm material then came back and delivered the goods again

and both are the best at what they do

dr. dre -best producer in rap
metallica-best HEAVY METAL rock band
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on December 11, 2001, 06:52:33 PM
Pearl Jam use 2 be tha shit, now them Creed mofos try 2 copy em...........
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Don Jacob on December 11, 2001, 06:53:50 PM

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Pearl Jam use 2 be tha shit, now them Creed mofos try 2 copy em...........


WORD
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on December 11, 2001, 07:01:16 PM
^ya, Tha dude dat sings 4 creed CHANGES his voice when he sings so he can sound like his idol, (singer from PJ)...........He dont sound like dat when he talks...........He got a deep voice...........

Tha only reason their last album went diamond is b/c they bring back pearl jam memories..........lol

They're classified as wannabes in my eyes............
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Don Jacob on December 11, 2001, 07:05:22 PM

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^ya, Tha dude dat sings 4 creed CHANGES his voice when he sings so he can sound like his idol, (singer from PJ)...........He dont sound like dat when he talks...........He got a deep voice...........

Tha only reason their last album went diamond is b/c they bring back pearl jam memories..........lol

They're classified as wannabes in my eyes............



WORD to the 100th power! lol
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Dogg_Pound_Gangsta on December 11, 2001, 09:35:30 PM
jus cuz jayz said it doesnt make it a fact or true.  to me what jay z thinks of tupac will neva change my look at either artists.  he can say whateva the fuck he wants.  jus let it be.  we all know how great pac is.  keep yourself thinkin alone and not give a fuck what other people say bout him.IMO


Peace
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Ant on December 12, 2001, 07:23:01 AM
how are you gonna say jay z gets more love overalll but on this board tupac gets more love



man tupac just got voted #1 mc of all time so i dunno what your smokin..... the people have spoken
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: T-Dogg on December 12, 2001, 07:37:27 AM
There are the kind of artists like Elvis and John Lennon who never will be forgotten. Pac is one of those artists, nobody can deny that. Jay-z, well, will never be one of those artists.
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Nosak on December 12, 2001, 09:41:45 AM
pleebaleev jay-z gonna be remeber , just like dmx , they makin move so they can be remember , dawm people don't forget about artist just like that , it takes time , a lot , look at mc hammer , people didn't forgot about him  , so he's makin a comeback but he ain't the shit no mo
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: HBKid_Jr on December 12, 2001, 10:52:12 AM

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pleebaleev jay-z gonna be remeber , just like dmx , they makin move so they can be remember , dawm people don't forget about artist just like that , it takes time , a lot , look at mc hammer , people didn't forgot about him  , so he's makin a comeback but he ain't the shit no mo

your totally missin tha point here slickk,  jay-z is like janis joplin,  people remember her you never here people talk about her much,  now lets look at tha beatles,  people still talk about them all tha time,  they still have a large followin of supporters,  its like tha wit jay-z an pac,  jay-z is like janis joplin an pac it tha beatles of rap,  Pac is a legend,  when you get that status,  it doesnt go away,  jay-z is not a legend,  20 years from now,  people will remember him but he'll no where be remembered an loved like 2pac
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Password on December 12, 2001, 11:09:45 AM
*recovers from histerics*
snoop gets better and better? please....hes below wack since doggystyle...for real..last meal was average...the rest were way below that......his lyrics are horrible....can he create a sentence without sayin izzle?  he wouldnt be considered in my top 50 emcees of all time..struggle to make 100.
sure hes a funny guyetc but face it, the material he has released over the last 5 years or so has been poor.....IMO


and i dont know if jay z said that..but i hate when rappers who would once kill for a record deal..would get so big headed....arrogance...i hate it
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: jakeIII on December 12, 2001, 12:13:16 PM

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IN rock who is dre equal to than


I'd say Dre is the Rolling Stones - many many years of making classics. And Mick Jagger used to wear make-up & sequins too.....LOL.
This is a good idea for a thread - rappers compared to rockers, let's see.......
'Pac = Beatles
Snoop = Pearl Jam
Dre = Rolling Stones

Alright, what about....C Murder.......LOL
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Don Jacob on December 12, 2001, 12:26:36 PM

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Alright, what about....C Murder.......LOL


Flock of Seagulls
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: jakeIII on December 12, 2001, 12:38:32 PM

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Flock of Seagulls


LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Nosak on December 12, 2001, 03:26:22 PM

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your totally missin tha point here slickk,  jay-z is like janis joplin,  people remember her you never here people talk about her much,  now lets look at tha beatles,  people still talk about them all tha time,  they still have a large followin of supporters,  its like tha wit jay-z an pac,  jay-z is like janis joplin an pac it tha beatles of rap,  Pac is a legend,  when you get that status,  it doesnt go away,  jay-z is not a legend,  20 years from now,  people will remember him but he'll no where be remembered an loved like 2pac

anyways , u know why the beatle will be so remembered, cause of the death of the members during all theses years, how many of the group remian , 1 or 2 dawm , thats why , same thang fo pac , well if jay-z had to die now or near , he will be more ,much more infront of pac , everybody gonna yap about this ,, and they'll compared to pac just like we doing now etc etc.
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: HBKid_Jr on December 12, 2001, 03:28:36 PM
John Lennon died in tha late 70'2 tha next beatle to die didnt die untill a few weeks ago,  u act like they all died recently,  look at biggie though,  him an Pac died around tha same time,  but now who still gets huge amounts of love from fans an is constantly talked,  Pac.
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Nosak on December 12, 2001, 03:32:54 PM

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*recovers from histerics*
snoop gets better and better? please....hes below wack since doggystyle...for real..last meal was average...the rest were way below that......his lyrics are horrible....can he create a sentence without sayin izzle?  he wouldnt be considered in my top 50 emcees of all time..struggle to make 100.
sure hes a funny guyetc but face it, the material he has released over the last 5 years or so has been poor.....IMO


and i dont know if jay z said that..but i hate when rappers who would once kill for a record deal..would get so big headed....arrogance...i hate it


u know it ain't true fo most of the shit u said back there, so y don't u  just shut up if u don't know what's happenin, i can name u a lot of tracks were izzle or shit like that ain't there , niggaz trippin fo shit, if u ain't feeling right about west coast or hip hop music , get to classical , nobody gonna get u mad cause of the lyric there ...

dawm , i'ma take a resolution fo the next year  ya'll.... when i post some n the person who disagree with me reply but ain't proving no point , i'ma just stop there , i ain't gonna loose my time no mo , if he makes a good point i'm just gonna accept it or reply with another fact as much as i can cause this shit begins to be very "childish"(sorry fo the spelling tho  ;D)
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Password on December 13, 2001, 02:38:56 AM
"niggaz trippin fo shit, if u ain't feeling right about west coast or hip hop music , get to classical , nobody gonna get u mad cause of the lyric there "

because i think snoop's quality of material has drastically decreased i cant like west coast or hip hop in general?
The proof i have is chronic/doggystyle....to what?  utter bullshit,......theres all the proof u need....

not only has his lyrics changed, his voice, his overall effort has changed....i used to be a huge fan but any1 can see how bad he has fell off.....
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Cliche on December 13, 2001, 03:05:15 AM

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nah,  lets compare pac an biggie,  honestly,  they both still get a lot of love but atleast to me,  Pac get a lot more,  Pac is a legend,  20 years  from now,  people will say jay-z who


if you go to an east coast environment biggie is just as much of a legend....
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: HBKid_Jr on December 13, 2001, 06:47:31 AM

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if you go to an east coast environment biggie is just as much of a legend....

im from NY,  an i see a lot of people give Pac just as much love as Biggie,  if you go into brooklyn an shit,  big gets more love but in tha whole world of hip-hop,  Pac gets more
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Post by: SugeFight on December 13, 2001, 11:02:13 AM

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nah,  lets compare pac an biggie,  honestly,  they both still get a lot of love but atleast to me,  Pac get a lot more,  Pac is a legend,  20 years  from now,  people will say jay-z who


They will not say Jay-Z who..trust me.  Jay Z has held it down for a long minute now and brings hit after hit and sells millions after millions.  I know yall dont like Jay Z, but to say hes not important in hip hop proves that youre not important to this board.
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Nosak on December 13, 2001, 12:19:26 PM

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"niggaz trippin fo shit, if u ain't feeling right about west coast or hip hop music , get to classical , nobody gonna get u mad cause of the lyric there "

because i think snoop's quality of material has drastically decreased i cant like west coast or hip hop in general?
The proof i have is chronic/doggystyle....to what?  utter bullshit,......theres all the proof u need....

not only has his lyrics changed, his voice, his overall effort has changed....i used to be a huge fan but any1 can see how bad he has fell off.....


whut i'm sayin is tha u ain't no fan u just a listener. u move with the flow , if people goes with dmx ya go with dmx , if the flow move toward britney spears ya move toward britney ,, ya some fallowing motherfucka... pleezbaleevit  ;D
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Password on December 14, 2001, 01:20:32 AM
haahahahah
my god man, nah u know what i am? a hip hop fan! what i listen to what i feel....i odnt have to be a mechanical robot and praise EVERY single thing one man makes.....that is called bein attached to some1s genitals...i do not...
u know..the 'flow' already has went to dmx and already has went to britney spears...and i can assure im a fan of neither...

it cracks me up, some cum guzzler who doesnt know me comes judges me....lmao

go check some UK hiphop
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Nosak on December 14, 2001, 03:50:29 PM

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haahahahah
my god man, nah u know what i am? a hip hop fan! what i listen to what i feel....i odnt have to be a mechanical robot and praise EVERY single thing one man makes.....that is called bein attached to some1s genitals...i do not...
u know..the 'flow' already has went to dmx and already has went to britney spears...and i can assure im a fan of neither...

it cracks me up, some cum guzzler who doesnt know me comes judges me....lmao

go check some UK hiphop

whatever i ain'T gonna diss uk or some like u wanted me too do i'ma remain quiet n u do the same aighttt ::) shiiiiiiiiiiiiish
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Don Jacob on December 14, 2001, 03:54:29 PM
i know i agree with what password was trying to get across


in your eyes...snoop can do NO wrong, if snoop some how was behind the WTC bombing you'd some how find a way to justify it , it seems
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Nosak on December 14, 2001, 04:06:28 PM

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i know i agree with what password was trying to get across


in your eyes...snoop can do NO wrong, if snoop some how was behind the WTC bombing you'd some how find a way to justify it , it seems

i don'T know what u wanna tell about this theory , ask u the same with pac , u see u ain't stupid enough  to do shit like this
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Don Jacob on December 14, 2001, 04:16:45 PM
i'm just saying ...i doubt anyone really would do that , but the way you defend him , it gets that crazy sometimes


and when people defend pac....it's well deserved, pac is the michael jordan of this shit so it's not too ludicris to defend him a lot , snoop's like the James Worthy or George Girvin of this


but i can admit when 2pac slipped


pac got served by chino....why do you think he never REALLY responded??
Title: Re: Gossip, Rumors and Innuendo
Post by: Nosak on December 14, 2001, 04:27:21 PM

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and when people defend pac....it's well deserved, pac is the michael jordan of this shit so it's not too ludicris to defend him a lot , snoop's like the James Worthy or George Girvin of this : yeah pac may be tight but even if he's great , the others ain't bullshit man , dawm  pac n bigg or out this game , forget a bit about them n think about now,  u ain't living from the past . thats was a great period but it fade with time . but it will always be there


but i can admit when 2pac slipped
:  who told u i can't