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Title: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Antonio_ on October 08, 2006, 08:18:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5ye_Zx6tsA&mode=related&search=

Damn, if only he could stay in that shape.... what a dumbass!
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: OGB heard it before on October 08, 2006, 08:52:57 AM
i'd say this is probably the most exciting team ever.
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: 7even on October 08, 2006, 09:15:38 AM
It's called getting older
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on October 08, 2006, 09:24:15 AM
+1. That was some crazy shit.
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: GangstaBoogy on October 08, 2006, 01:44:55 PM
It's called getting older

no its called not working out. look at shaq in 2003. he was about a year out of his prime, but he started the season waaay out of shape
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Don Jacob on October 08, 2006, 11:47:42 PM
It's called getting older

no its called not working out. look at shaq in 2003. he was about a year out of his prime, but he started the season waaay out of shape

yeah and he started 2005 in great shape and almost won the mvp with his lowest number of his career....like 7even said its called getting older. shaq was 24/25 in those clips he's 34/35 now. WALTER PAYTON (probably the most in shape hardest working player ever) wasn't even close to doing the stuff he he did when he was 24/25, at least shaq shows glimpses. also look at centers like david robinson, hakeem, even tim duncan they declined a lot more rapidly than shaq at his age
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: R-Tistic on October 09, 2006, 12:26:00 AM
It's called getting older

no its called not working out. look at shaq in 2003. he was about a year out of his prime, but he started the season waaay out of shape

yeah and he started 2005 in great shape and almost won the mvp with his lowest number of his career....like 7even said its called getting older. shaq was 24/25 in those clips he's 34/35 now. WALTER PAYTON (probably the most in shape hardest working player ever) wasn't even close to doing the stuff he he did when he was 24/25, at least shaq shows glimpses. also look at centers like david robinson, hakeem, even tim duncan they declined a lot more rapidly than shaq at his age

Yeah....I mean Shaq did get hella lazy, but even if he tried to stay in top shape with all of his ability, it's no way in the world he could do what he did in the 90's. It happens to EVERYONE....Jordan, Magic, Tim Hardaway, etc. Give Kobe 3-4 years, and we'll be saying "damn....I remember when Kobe used to....." and I can see the same happening with Iverson in a year or two, because suprisingly, he's kept his speed for the most part since he came into the league.

But it's even worst for big men, because all of that weight just weighs down on them more and more throughout their careers.
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Citizen-Y on October 09, 2006, 08:20:41 AM
It's called getting older

no its called not working out. look at shaq in 2003. he was about a year out of his prime, but he started the season waaay out of shape

yeah and he started 2005 in great shape and almost won the mvp with his lowest number of his career....like 7even said its called getting older. shaq was 24/25 in those clips he's 34/35 now. WALTER PAYTON (probably the most in shape hardest working player ever) wasn't even close to doing the stuff he he did when he was 24/25, at least shaq shows glimpses. also look at centers like david robinson, hakeem, even tim duncan they declined a lot more rapidly than shaq at his age

Injuries and age killed Dream.  He relied so much on his athleticism. 

I remember watching a Raptors game when he got traded and watching him try a jumper and getting blocked by a forward.  I just turned the game off.
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 09, 2006, 10:22:12 AM
It's called getting older


It's called conditioning and keeping an NBA diet... :D
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 09, 2006, 10:27:00 AM
also look at centers like david robinson, hakeem, even tim duncan they declined a lot more rapidly than shaq at his age


LMFAO!!!!!!!!! Hakeem was in his prime winning championships in his 30's. David Robinson took a back-seat to Duncan despite still being a top player in his 30's and even won championships doing that...To compare those players and their work-ethic to Shaq's is a joke...And to compare Tim Duncan's decline to Shaq's is flat out outrageous...LOLLLLLLLL.
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 09, 2006, 10:28:55 AM
It's called getting older

no its called not working out. look at shaq in 2003. he was about a year out of his prime, but he started the season waaay out of shape

yeah and he started 2005 in great shape and almost won the mvp with his lowest number of his career....like 7even said its called getting older. shaq was 24/25 in those clips he's 34/35 now. WALTER PAYTON (probably the most in shape hardest working player ever) wasn't even close to doing the stuff he he did when he was 24/25, at least shaq shows glimpses. also look at centers like david robinson, hakeem, even tim duncan they declined a lot more rapidly than shaq at his age

Yeah....I mean Shaq did get hella lazy, but even if he tried to stay in top shape with all of his ability, it's no way in the world he could do what he did in the 90's. It happens to EVERYONE....Jordan, Magic, Tim Hardaway, etc. Give Kobe 3-4 years, and we'll be saying "damn....I remember when Kobe used to....." and I can see the same happening with Iverson in a year or two, because suprisingly, he's kept his speed for the most part since he came into the league.

But it's even worst for big men, because all of that weight just weighs down on them more and more throughout their careers.


Nobody's downfall can be compared to Shaq's. If he was smart, he would barely be winding down his prime years right now, STILL winning championships behind Kobe and Phil...Too bad he's a big selfish lazy asshole who ruined his chances at being undisputedly the greatest big man to ever set foot on a basketball court.
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 09, 2006, 10:35:02 AM
It's called getting older

no its called not working out. look at shaq in 2003. he was about a year out of his prime, but he started the season waaay out of shape

yeah and he started 2005 in great shape and almost won the mvp with his lowest number of his career....like 7even said its called getting older. shaq was 24/25 in those clips he's 34/35 now. WALTER PAYTON (probably the most in shape hardest working player ever) wasn't even close to doing the stuff he he did when he was 24/25, at least shaq shows glimpses. also look at centers like david robinson, hakeem, even tim duncan they declined a lot more rapidly than shaq at his age

Injuries and age killed Dream.  He relied so much on his athleticism. 

I remember watching a Raptors game when he got traded and watching him try a jumper and getting blocked by a forward.  I just turned the game off.


Hakeem was so much more of a skilled player than Shaq and better overall...Does anyone remember him in his prime, it was amazing to see a center move like him, with such finess... unstoppable at the same time, he taught Shaq lesson after lesson in the '94 finals, made Shaq look really bad. He still played stellar basketball up into his late 30's until injuries set him back (not being out of shape). Shaq was a power player, once those cheeseburgers caught up, there was NOTHING he could do...Both great players, two different stories.
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Citizen-Y on October 09, 2006, 12:57:39 PM
It's called getting older

no its called not working out. look at shaq in 2003. he was about a year out of his prime, but he started the season waaay out of shape

yeah and he started 2005 in great shape and almost won the mvp with his lowest number of his career....like 7even said its called getting older. shaq was 24/25 in those clips he's 34/35 now. WALTER PAYTON (probably the most in shape hardest working player ever) wasn't even close to doing the stuff he he did when he was 24/25, at least shaq shows glimpses. also look at centers like david robinson, hakeem, even tim duncan they declined a lot more rapidly than shaq at his age

Injuries and age killed Dream.  He relied so much on his athleticism. 

I remember watching a Raptors game when he got traded and watching him try a jumper and getting blocked by a forward.  I just turned the game off.


Hakeem was so much more of a skilled player than Shaq and better overall...Does anyone remember him in his prime, it was amazing to see a center move like him, with such finess... unstoppable at the same time, he taught Shaq lesson after lesson in the '94 finals, made Shaq look really bad. He still played stellar basketball up into his late 30's until injuries set him back (not being out of shape). Shaq was a power player, once those cheeseburgers caught up, there was NOTHING he could do...Both great players, two different stories.

He is my favorite player of all time.  He was such a threat on both ends of the court, blocking shots or just baffling people on the offensive side with the Dream Shake. 

Fun fact, Dream destroyed all of his greatest opposition during the Rockets back to back years.  First Ewing, then Robinson, then Shaq.  No other player has defeated their rivals like that.
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 09, 2006, 01:02:47 PM
It's called getting older

no its called not working out. look at shaq in 2003. he was about a year out of his prime, but he started the season waaay out of shape

yeah and he started 2005 in great shape and almost won the mvp with his lowest number of his career....like 7even said its called getting older. shaq was 24/25 in those clips he's 34/35 now. WALTER PAYTON (probably the most in shape hardest working player ever) wasn't even close to doing the stuff he he did when he was 24/25, at least shaq shows glimpses. also look at centers like david robinson, hakeem, even tim duncan they declined a lot more rapidly than shaq at his age

Injuries and age killed Dream.  He relied so much on his athleticism. 

I remember watching a Raptors game when he got traded and watching him try a jumper and getting blocked by a forward.  I just turned the game off.


Hakeem was so much more of a skilled player than Shaq and better overall...Does anyone remember him in his prime, it was amazing to see a center move like him, with such finess... unstoppable at the same time, he taught Shaq lesson after lesson in the '94 finals, made Shaq look really bad. He still played stellar basketball up into his late 30's until injuries set him back (not being out of shape). Shaq was a power player, once those cheeseburgers caught up, there was NOTHING he could do...Both great players, two different stories.

He is my favorite player of all time.  He was such a threat on both ends of the court, blocking shots or just baffling people on the offensive side with the Dream Shake. 

Fun fact, Dream destroyed all of his greatest opposition during the Rockets back to back years.  First Ewing, then Robinson, then Shaq.  No other player has defeated their rivals like that.


Yea...I honestly believe he's the only center who can give Kareem and Wilt a true run for their money.
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: GangstaBoogy on October 09, 2006, 04:36:51 PM
It's called getting older

no its called not working out. look at shaq in 2003. he was about a year out of his prime, but he started the season waaay out of shape

yeah and he started 2005 in great shape and almost won the mvp with his lowest number of his career....

yeah cuz he got back in shape. it had nothing to do with age. thanks for proving my point.
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Sanford - V. President of the Dangerous Crew Movement on October 09, 2006, 04:43:14 PM
nice.   8)

LOL at the part when Shaq grabed PJ Carlisimo's neck.   :laugh:

was g. Rice on that team in 97'?    ???
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 09, 2006, 05:23:06 PM
was g. Rice on that team in 97'?    ???


Naah...
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: R-Tistic on October 09, 2006, 09:18:06 PM
Glen came in 99 for Eddie Jones, and played for the 2000 Championship team. I don't think he was there in 2001.
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 10, 2006, 10:14:51 AM
Glen came in 99 for Eddie Jones, and played for the 2000 Championship team. I don't think he was there in 2001.


Actually, he came to the Lakers in the middle of the 1998-99 season, and was traded to New York (along with Travis Knight) in the summer of 2000 for Horace Grant, Greg Foster, Chuck Person, & Emanual Davis (in a 4 team deal).
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: R-Tistic on October 10, 2006, 01:58:43 PM
Glen came in 99 for Eddie Jones, and played for the 2000 Championship team. I don't think he was there in 2001.

Actually, he came to the Lakers in the middle of the 1998-99 season, and was traded to New York (along with Travis Knight) in the summer of 2000 for Horace Grant, Greg Foster, Chuck Person, & Emanual Davis (in a 4 team deal).

Yeah...I mean the 99 season. I remember it happening in that short ass season...my dad was mad as fuck...and my homegirl was literally crying in her room for hours.
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: GangstaBoogy on October 10, 2006, 02:53:15 PM
Glen came in 99 for Eddie Jones, and played for the 2000 Championship team. I don't think he was there in 2001.

Actually, he came to the Lakers in the middle of the 1998-99 season, and was traded to New York (along with Travis Knight) in the summer of 2000 for Horace Grant, Greg Foster, Chuck Person, & Emanual Davis (in a 4 team deal).

Yeah...I mean the 99 season. I remember it happening in that short ass season...my dad was mad as fuck...and my homegirl was literally crying in her room for hours.

lol damn crying? why?
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Antonio_ on October 11, 2006, 04:29:51 PM
I cried when we traded EJ for him.
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: R-Tistic on October 11, 2006, 07:33:27 PM
Glen came in 99 for Eddie Jones, and played for the 2000 Championship team. I don't think he was there in 2001.

Actually, he came to the Lakers in the middle of the 1998-99 season, and was traded to New York (along with Travis Knight) in the summer of 2000 for Horace Grant, Greg Foster, Chuck Person, & Emanual Davis (in a 4 team deal).

Yeah...I mean the 99 season. I remember it happening in that short ass season...my dad was mad as fuck...and my homegirl was literally crying in her room for hours.

lol damn crying? why?

LOL, she was a MAAAAAAAAAAJOR Eddie Jones fan...bigger EJ fan than most females were Kobe fans during the championship run.
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: SGV on October 13, 2006, 10:27:11 AM
I think some people here are homo-ass-haters for not giving Shaq his due respect. He's STILL winning Championships, while Kobe isn't.

(http://img79.echo.cx/img79/1862/hater0jt.jpg)

People have ate a few too many of those.
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 13, 2006, 10:47:28 AM
I think some people here are homo-ass-haters for not giving Shaq his due respect. He's STILL winning Championships, while Kobe isn't.

(http://img79.echo.cx/img79/1862/hater0jt.jpg)

People have ate a few too many of those.


LOL. This fatso only comes in basketball threads to either a.) ride my dick or b.) talk shit. ::)
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: SGV on October 13, 2006, 10:54:27 AM
You came in here to do what? Talk shit right. Cuz thats what you're doing. Don't be mad when someone points out what a hater you are. LMAO @ Shaq winning a title without Kobe and Kobe fans still trying to down him.
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Antonio_ on October 13, 2006, 11:06:30 AM
Since i started this topic, let me clarify i'm mad about Shaq's work attitude from his Lakers days. I don't give a fuck no more about the Miami Shaq. Simple as that. I stopped watching the NBA when Phoenix won Game-7 against us.
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Juronimo on October 13, 2006, 11:07:19 AM
Shaq is still one of my favorite all time players, I don't care that he's not a Laker any more. Without Shaq, we would have barely made the playoffs those years we won championships. Every Laker fan should be grateful to Shaq for that, I know I am.
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Antonio_ on October 13, 2006, 11:15:52 AM
Shaq is still one of my favorite all time players, I don't care that he's not a Laker any more. Without Shaq, we would have barely made the playoffs those years we won championships. Every Laker fan should be grateful to Shaq for that, I know I am.

Man obviously i'm grateful to Shaq for the titles.
BUT i'm mad at him about his work attitude and his big ego.
And i'm mad at him because he dissed Laker fans and the whole organization (lol he even dissed the city of L.A.) when he left.
3 separate things.
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 13, 2006, 11:45:50 AM
You came in here to do what? Talk shit right. Cuz thats what you're doing. Don't be mad when someone points out what a hater you are. LMAO @ Shaq winning a title without Kobe and Kobe fans still trying to down him.


Did HE win the title or did Wade and the refs? Watch basketball, THEN speak. :-*
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: SGV on October 13, 2006, 10:43:18 PM
Shaq is still one of my favorite all time players, I don't care that he's not a Laker any more. Without Shaq, we would have barely made the playoffs those years we won championships. Every Laker fan should be grateful to Shaq for that, I know I am.

Thank you. Though NIK will say you're not a true Laker fan.


Did HE win the title or did Wade and the refs? Watch basketball, THEN speak. :-*

Ask yourself this: Without Shaq, would the Heat have made it that far? Without Shaq, would the Lakers (with Kobe) have won any titles?

Think real hard on that one. Then speak.
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Don Jacob on October 13, 2006, 11:51:51 PM
check out number plays 5, 4, and 1....that's what fat lazy slobs are capable of in the nba  ::)
http://www.youtube.com/v/xzCVm4OXOS4

http://www.youtube.com/v/Bw1u6pxjT1M
http://www.youtube.com/v/cYJH4t6b0WQ
http://www.youtube.com/v/8Ih2EnUeCyU
http://www.youtube.com/v/9WGJCp4eJa4
http://www.youtube.com/v/Drj_IpXWkGo
http://www.youtube.com/v/95121hHTqbI
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Don Jacob on October 14, 2006, 12:18:01 AM
You came in here to do what? Talk shit right. Cuz thats what you're doing. Don't be mad when someone points out what a hater you are. LMAO @ Shaq winning a title without Kobe and Kobe fans still trying to down him.


Did HE win the title or did Wade and the refs? Watch basketball, THEN speak. :-*

well without shaq they probably would have exited out in the second round....like the year before they didn't have shaq and had 3+ other players  instead of him
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Citizen-Y on October 14, 2006, 12:34:22 AM

http://www.youtube.com/v/95121hHTqbI


Argh, Yao and his stupid fouls!
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 14, 2006, 06:26:03 PM
Shaq is still one of my favorite all time players, I don't care that he's not a Laker any more. Without Shaq, we would have barely made the playoffs those years we won championships. Every Laker fan should be grateful to Shaq for that, I know I am.

Thank you. Though NIK will say you're not a true Laker fan.

Not true, you can be a Laker fan and still have Shaq as one of your favorite players, as long as you recognize he was a selfish immature asshole and understand the disrespect he showed our organization and fans...


Did HE win the title or did Wade and the refs? Watch basketball, THEN speak. :-*

Ask yourself this: Without Shaq, would the Heat have made it that far? Without Shaq, would the Lakers (with Kobe) have won any titles?

Think real hard on that one. Then speak.

The same stands for Alonzo Mourning...Does that indicate that Mourning brought the Heat the championship? Please make sense.
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: SGV on October 14, 2006, 06:30:11 PM
NIK, don't skip the question. Could the Heat have made it as far without Shaq. Don't try to pull your typical bullshit. Only answer this question.

Could the Heat have made it as far without Shaq?
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 14, 2006, 06:31:14 PM
check out number plays 5, 4, and 1....that's what fat lazy slobs are capable of in the nba  ::)
http://www.youtube.com/v/xzCVm4OXOS4

http://www.youtube.com/v/Bw1u6pxjT1M
http://www.youtube.com/v/cYJH4t6b0WQ
http://www.youtube.com/v/8Ih2EnUeCyU
http://www.youtube.com/v/9WGJCp4eJa4
http://www.youtube.com/v/Drj_IpXWkGo
http://www.youtube.com/v/95121hHTqbI




What's your point? Are you denying the fact that he subsided drastically? I can put together a mix-tape of highlights for Slava Medvedenko...PeACe
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 14, 2006, 06:34:12 PM
NIK, don't skip the question. Could the Heat have made it as far without Shaq. Don't try to pull your typical bullshit. Only answer this question.

Could the Heat have made it as far without Shaq?


Of course not, they'd be down a center, where did I deny this?
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: grasshiphopper on October 14, 2006, 09:32:52 PM
damn i miss nick van exel after watching that vid.
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Don Jacob on October 15, 2006, 01:05:16 AM
check out number plays 5, 4, and 1....that's what fat lazy slobs are capable of in the nba  ::)
http://www.youtube.com/v/xzCVm4OXOS4

http://www.youtube.com/v/Bw1u6pxjT1M
http://www.youtube.com/v/cYJH4t6b0WQ
http://www.youtube.com/v/8Ih2EnUeCyU
http://www.youtube.com/v/9WGJCp4eJa4
http://www.youtube.com/v/Drj_IpXWkGo
http://www.youtube.com/v/95121hHTqbI




What's your point? Are you denying the fact that he subsided drastically? I can put together a mix-tape of highlights for Slava Medvedenko...PeACe

well the first video was just the 2005-2006 season  that was the point but then i just kept finding tight videos so i added them as well. still shaq in 2005-2006 is still a force
Title: Re: Watch Shaq back in the '97 Lakers
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 15, 2006, 02:43:47 PM
check out number plays 5, 4, and 1....that's what fat lazy slobs are capable of in the nba  ::)
http://www.youtube.com/v/xzCVm4OXOS4

http://www.youtube.com/v/Bw1u6pxjT1M
http://www.youtube.com/v/cYJH4t6b0WQ
http://www.youtube.com/v/8Ih2EnUeCyU
http://www.youtube.com/v/9WGJCp4eJa4
http://www.youtube.com/v/Drj_IpXWkGo
http://www.youtube.com/v/95121hHTqbI




What's your point? Are you denying the fact that he subsided drastically? I can put together a mix-tape of highlights for Slava Medvedenko...PeACe

well the first video was just the 2005-2006 season  that was the point but then i just kept finding tight videos so i added them as well. still shaq in 2005-2006 is still a force


Yea, but the only claim we've made is that he really subsided once the 3peat era was over, which is undeniable...PeACe