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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: HBKid_Jr on December 12, 2001, 03:35:18 PM
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I was just how every feels about snoop, cuz i noticed in tha past few days a lot of people have mixed feeling about him. Personally I think he is mad overatted an lives off his death row days, he fell off hard, he has improved drastically over tha past few years, but he has yet to put out an equal to his work on tha chronic, doggystyle, an his other death row work, he puts out decent stuff an i'll continue to buy it, but tha thing is, over tha past 5 years he hasnt put out any classic tracks or anything groundbreakin like doggystyle except for tha exception of a few songs that have been 5/5, an they usually had a guest appearence on it. I just think a lot of people over rate him, if he was able to put out great stuff like he is capable of, i would have no problem callin him one of tha all-time greats but as it stands, he is an under achevier in my opinion
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I was just how every feels about snoop, cuz i noticed in tha past few days a lot of people have mixed feeling about him. Personally I think he is mad overatted an lives off his death row days, he fell off hard, he has improved drastically over tha past few years, but he has yet to put out an equal to his work on tha chronic, doggystyle, an his other death row work, he puts out decent stuff an i'll continue to buy it, but tha thing is, over tha past 5 years he hasnt put out any classic tracks or anything groundbreakin like doggystyle except for tha exception of a few songs that have been 5/5, an they usually had a guest appearence on it. I just think a lot of people over rate him, if he was able to put out great stuff like he is capable of, i would have no problem callin him one of tha all-time greats but as it stands, he is an under achevier in my opinion
i agree wit u 100%
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ya'll already know my feeling about him , but it's about people around here that i'm scared of , man over here , some people like snoop and some don't just like here , but people who dislike snoop here have some good point or some , no because he have beats by the pound, used the izzle thang, have some shitty lyric (nigga pleez ::)) etc if u don't like snoop dogg give a good reason why u don't like him , like if i say i don't like pac, people over here will diss me b4 i can even explain myself but ya'll know i luv pac as much as i luv snoop , so
thats my problem cause people hates just fo hate , thatssome bullshit , u know how it goes , don't hate the playa hate the game.... i ain't talkin just fo snoop hatin tho , just lettin u know
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over tha past 5 years he hasnt put out any classic tracks or anything groundbreakin like doggystyle except for tha exception of a few songs that have been 5/5, an they usually had a guest appearence on it
u goes against yourself sayin this , he hasn't put out any classic track but some exeption , so he did or he did not , thats is the question.... just bitch please, in luv with a thug , ya'll gonna miss me , thoses track may not be some classic but the over some other artist tracks... just lay low is considered as a classic by the east coast people the source... but in the BOARD , people are to much into detail n always want more, so ya'll can put a bigg X on the classic albums now , nobody gonna drop a classic no mo then , everytimes an artist as come near the classic mark , everyone was like " oh yeah that was hott but he could have done better "etc, jay-z puttin out a classic album , i disagree too but fo another reason i agree.. this classic is considerable cause of the person , they would gave this classic to nelly or someone.. they gave it too jay-z cause he was the most acclaimed in the streets , and they gave him the classic mark maybe not because his album was , his album may have get another 4.5/5 mark but nawww. classic , why , cause this classic had to shock people , thats what it did, now it's kind of a wake up call for the other artst to get real with there music n shit... some artist may have seen this and said "oh shit, i can't put this shit out if jay-z got a classic , whut the fuck , i got to putt some greatest shit ... n they puttin some better stuff on the streets. i'm thinkin of , ras kass .. he may have think like this or some , talkin about too much bootleggers like jay-z said.. busta rhymes , who got a great album .. i'm sure nobody remembers the world extention level events.. well genesis is way better let me tell u..... anyways ya know whut i'm talkin bout , n thats real . fa shizzle man
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snoop is straight biatch
i wouldnt hate on him if he wasent rappin about crips and bein a gangsta cause that what makes me so pissed off. That nigga aint bein to tha hood in over 8 years. and that nigga would never say shit to suge's face so he should just shut the fuck up and change his rappin style or just retire
like pac said:
All these old rappers tryin to advance/
its all over now take it like a man/
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snoop is straight biatch
kool
That nigga aint bein to tha hood in over 8 years.
hmmmm , how do u know ???
and that nigga would never say shit to suge's face so he should just shut the fuck up and change his rappin style or just retire
yeah right, so u gangsta now , nigga pleez ::)
i ain't gonna reply no more cause thats how people feel about snoop n i respect that , ain't everybody who can love snoop dogg, i accecpt it but what this nigga is sayin is straigh bullshit , he catch this shit on some sites n cut n paste them here , nigga you the bitch >:(
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i love him , but i wish he'd utilize his talents and would quit being lazy
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i ain't gonna reply no more cause thats how people feel about snoop n i respect that , ain't everybody who can love snoop dogg, i accecpt it but what this nigga is sayin is straigh bullshit , he catch this shit on some sites n cut n paste them here , nigga you the bitch >:(
get off snoops dick
that nigga is a biatch foe real
tell him to do that c-walk in a blood set with none of his home boyz
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::) nigga i luv his dick , hmmm feel good , hmmm u want some fagg ??? now , snoop doesn't have to do this , only a fool like u can be thinkin of a suicidal shit like this , plus bloods already know snoop is a crip fool... what ya sayin have no sense i can't even tell why u trippin over snoop like this , whut does the nigga does to you , if it was you brother or your dad , u would ask him to go fool around in front of blood set , nigga nobody's stupid like that even if u ain't in no gang shit they gonna bust yo ass off quick man fo foolin them .... anyways ::)
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i will agree that snoop's songs have dropped off since doggystyle, but i still love his music. He needs to achieve his full potential though, and he has a lot of potential too. I wish everyone would quit saying he ain't a thug anymore, who cares? he has a wife and kids, he doesn't need to go back to the ghetto or whatever. And people are always talking about rappers losing their street credibility, who cares...are your raps only cool if you came from the hood? are you cool cause you used to or still do sell drugs? people move on with their lives, and if i was a rapper and made a lot of money, i sure as hell wouldn't go back to the ghetto and live. I give snoop a lot of credit for getting out of the hood and making something of himself, and having a wife and kids. He has matured a lot over the past few years, and i think he sets a good example for other rappers as well. The world doesn't need feuds and beefs, the world needs love right now..i know a lot of people think they are cool cause they got street credibility and all, but it don't really matter if you do or you don't in my opinion, as long as you make good music. People can't help where they grow up, in the hood or not...Hopefully snoop will step up his game on his next album, and utilize some of his potential...
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Personally... he'll always be my favorite rapper, but I think anyone who is still waiting for another "Doggystyle" needs to stop waiting. That album was so fresh, so new that it would be so hard to even reach that level again. To me, people who want another Doggystyle aren't really fans of "music" ... Doggystyle was a party album the whole way... there is not one song on that album that has any moral relief what so ever. It's still my favorite album though. When I talk to people personally in my real life... they'll always tell me
"Snoop fell hard.... his first one was real good though"
these people are the average listeners... Snoop doesn't appeal to the "average" anymore... but I don't think that's bad at all... he's still bringing tight music, in fact I will say it loud and clear... his music now... is some of the best music in Rap and Hip Hop today... However his Doggystyle album Is on a Bar so high that people won't except it unless it's at the same level...
-Big BpG
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man , u hypin the album on my mind lol
yeah i agree with tha out the hood thang , if you're in the ghetto u always wish to exit and have a good life with wife n kids like snoop does... n artist don't give a fuck about whut ya'll sayin bout them , they makin money on your head any oddawm way man ;D
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well stated big bpg, people gotta be original with their music, and snoop's doggystyle along with his appearance on the chronic were original, and can't and shouldn't be recreated, this doesn't mean he shouldn't use that style anymore, its just that like big bpg said, there will never be another doggystyle or the chronic or illmatic or whatever, and as snoop says, "time brings change and change brings time" People's music evolves in time, for the better or for the worst, and when rappers have a classic debut album like those three are, its almost impossible to make something that people will like more than it. People always saying rappers are fallin off, which can be true, but a lot of times they experiment with different producers etc., and they need time to get in the groove again, and people will always have that person's best album in mind, and will always compare it to that, and a lot of times its not easy to top
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snoop is straight biatch
i wouldnt hate on him if he wasent rappin about crips and bein a gangsta cause that what makes me so pissed off. That nigga aint bein to tha hood in over 8 years. and that nigga would never say shit to suge's face so he should just shut the fuck up and change his rappin style or just retire
like pac said:
All these old rappers tryin to advance/
its all over now take it like a man/
That's a very ignorant comment... I mean seriously... the old Snoop who was saying.... "Put A Nigga On His Back" is the the same Snoop who was saying "Live by the Gun, Die By The Gun"
he's also the same Snoop that said... "You can take me out of the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto out of me" .... seriously though, I could give a fuck what he has to say about the ghetto... it's just a damn neighborhood in Long Beach California... If I move out to Seattle am I no longer real because I dont live in
"The Greentree Neighborhood Of Milwaukee Wisocnsin??"
NO! But I'll never forget my life while living there... I mean shit...... If you hate Snoop because he talks about a life that is 8 years behind him, then you should hate any rapper who raps today...period! You know damn well, there is not one "mainstream" rapper today who does not live in the same neighborhood... people never give Dre shit about rapping about the gang life... or Suge Knight... Deathrow Records is located in Hollywood... so are they now pimped by the celebrity high life.... I mean damn.... ignorance is all over this shit
-Big BpG
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i love him , but i wish he'd utilize his talents and would quit being lazy
Lazy? man, tell dat shit 2 bone thugs, them fools aint had an album out in nearly 3 years, and im goin crazy...........
Talk about lazy........lol.........u dont know wat lazy is........
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Personally... he'll always be my favorite rapper, but I think anyone who is still waiting for another "Doggystyle" needs to stop waiting. That album was so fresh, so new that it would be so hard to even reach that level again. To me, people who want another Doggystyle aren't really fans of "music" ... Doggystyle was a party album the whole way... there is not one song on that album that has any moral relief what so ever. It's still my favorite album though. When I talk to people personally in my real life... they'll always tell me
"Snoop fell hard.... his first one was real good though"
these people are the average listeners... Snoop doesn't appeal to the "average" anymore... but I don't think that's bad at all... he's still bringing tight music, in fact I will say it loud and clear... his music now... is some of the best music in Rap and Hip Hop today... However his Doggystyle album Is on a Bar so high that people won't except it unless it's at the same level...
-Big BpG
amen, reveran
nowadays u got to be a real fan to appreciate snoop music cause it's deep , it ain't about bling bling or fake shit
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get off snoops dick
that nigga is a biatch foe real
tell him to do that c-walk in a blood set with none of his home boyz
Name 1 crip who would, lol Come on now.
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Lazy? man, tell dat shit 2 bone thugs, them fools aint had an album out in nearly 3 years, and im goin crazy...........
Talk about lazy........lol.........u dont know wat lazy is........
lol yeah , lazy bones u talkin bout or lazy it term of lazy , the group ???... anyways i like excstasy , dawm this shit was deep , i will had it to my list of deep song , lol , anyways get back to TRUE FEELING PROGRAM !!
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Name 1 crip who would, lol Come on now.
Haha... fo real... In one of my classes we read about this theory called "emotions with you're mob" and basically what it was saying is that people act tougher, act stronger and have more arrogance when they have their friends with them or their gang with them... so seriously... do you think any crip would just c-walk with bloods around... ummmm .... yea that's what Trauma saying
-Big BpG
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That's a very ignorant comment... I mean seriously... the old Snoop who was saying.... "Put A Nigga On His Back" is the the same Snoop who was saying "Live by the Gun, Die By The Gun"
he's also the same Snoop that said... "You can take me out of the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto out of me" .... seriously though, I could give a fuck what he has to say about the ghetto... it's just a damn neighborhood in Long Beach California... If I move out to Seattle am I no longer real because I dont live in
"The Greentree Neighborhood Of Milwaukee Wisocnsin??"
NO! But I'll never forget my life while living there... I mean shit...... If you hate Snoop because he talks about a life that is 8 years behind him, then you should hate any rapper who raps today...period! You know damn well, there is not one "mainstream" rapper today who does not live in the same neighborhood... people never give Dre shit about rapping about the gang life... or Suge Knight... Deathrow Records is located in Hollywood... so are they now pimped by the celebrity high life.... I mean damn.... ignorance is all over this shit
-Big BpG
damn you made some REALLY GOOD points here man, especially about the whole "hood" thing and the deathrow thing....i mean c'mon deathrow's main headquarters is located in the heart and soul of hollywood and suge knight lives in a huge ass mansion in the hills, i ain't got a problem with that at ALL if you got the money get nice shit like that....but don't be a hypocrit and call someone "hoollywood" or unreal when the're doing the EXACT same thing in the industry as you.
props to big bpg
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Lazy? man, tell dat shit 2 bone thugs, them fools aint had an album out in nearly 3 years, and im goin crazy...........
Talk about lazy........lol.........u dont know wat lazy is........
lol yeah, but i was just saying snoop can seem lazy on the mic at times and it disappoints me a lot when he does that
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THe Way I see snoop, is I don't compare him to the past as often anymore (of course you're right, he's not as hard as he used to be) with him, it's you win some, you lose some, but yall gotta admit, he's got styyyyyle. You can tell it's a snoop song, ALWAYS and sometimes, when he's on point, he's tighter than anyone alive. I just wish he'd double time the vocals like he used to... check this...
The thing snoop used to do that just killed it on doggystyle, was he'd rhyme 1 line, then throw in a line @ twice the speed... like with twice the words... check it:
So get busy... i make your head dizzy.. .i blow up ya mouth like i was dizzy gilespie
i'm crazy, you can't faze me, (double timed) i'm the s-n-yes i'm fresh, i don't fuck wit tha stress
Or how about recently
- hit tha switch and let tha ass just drag -
(double time) 2-thous-and an 1 2 thous-and an 2 tags
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-ain't no fun and games, man these niggaz wuddn't playin'
(double time) i jumped my ass inside my coupe and tried to scoop back to the hood again -
Anyways. Snoop's got style, that's what I always like about his stuff, it's usually funny... "This ne-gro right here pimp hos"
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THe Way I see snoop, is I don't compare him to the past as often anymore (of course you're right, he's not as hard as he used to be) with him, it's you win some, you lose some, but yall gotta admit, he's got styyyyyle. You can tell it's a snoop song, ALWAYS and sometimes, when he's on point, he's tighter than anyone alive. I just wish he'd double time the vocals like he used to... check this...
The thing snoop used to do that just killed it on doggystyle, was he'd rhyme 1 line, then throw in a line @ twice the speed... like with twice the words... check it:
So get busy... i make your head dizzy.. .i blow up ya mouth like i was dizzy gilespie
i'm crazy, you can't faze me, (double timed) i'm the s-n-yes i'm fresh, i don't fuck wit tha stress
Or how about recently
- hit tha switch and let tha ass just drag -
(double time) 2-thous-and an 1 2 thous-and an 2 tags
or
-ain't no fun and games, man these niggaz wuddn't playin'
(double time) i jumped my ass inside my coupe and tried to scoop back to the hood again -
Anyways. Snoop's got style, that's what I always like about his stuff, it's usually funny... "This ne-gro right here pimp hos"
agreed...the 1-2 style his dope
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Damn Trauma now I gotta spit the whole verse
This negro right here pimps hoes
I smoke so much dope I have ya bloody at the nose
Since my buddy at these hoes wit a bud like a rose
It just so happens I'm the nigga that she chose
I flows above the rest, mos' def'
Got you shakin yo' ass, and you throwin up yo' set
Whatever you do, you keepin it true
Big Dogg and ODB, I thought you knew
Oooh, the Wu, is back up in this motherfucker
Oooh, and Snoop, is burnin rubber on these suckers
It's a dog day afternoon
The Clan go bang, and the bang go boom
-Big BpG
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lol yeah, but i was just saying snoop can seem lazy on the mic at times and it disappoints me a lot when he does that
lol yah i know, he doesnt organize his lyrics like he use 2...........it's prolly cause he rushes too much, he's doin like a million things, shoes, porn, movies, soundtracks, promoting, label stuff etc............In tha doggystylin dayz he waz concentrating strictly on tha album 24 hours a day, dats why perfection arose back then............now it's just gettin kinda sloppy, although last meal waz a good effort, we'll see wat happens in tha future...........
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Oooh, the Wu, is back up in this motherfucker
Oooh, and Snoop, is burnin rubber on these suckers
-Big BpG
ha ha
n fo snoop being lazy , i don't think so , i didn't do his best cause he wants his albums to sell just enough not too much but in mca shit gonna change , well i hope it gonna change , lol
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I still love Snoop. He's consistent with puttin music out, but sometimes it's half-assed. I'll always buy his new shit, cause he's one of my favorite MC's.
Fav MC's -
Snoop
Eminem
Kurupt
Xzibit
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imagine that.....snoop dogg featuring Knock-turn'al on snoop's new album and knock's upcoming album!
....strange that snoop hasn't signed knock-turn'al on his label,
knock is from long beach.
what's your thoughts?
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That's a very ignorant comment... I mean seriously... the old Snoop who was saying.... "Put A Nigga On His Back" is the the same Snoop who was saying "Live by the Gun, Die By The Gun"
he's also the same Snoop that said... "You can take me out of the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto out of me" .... seriously though, I could give a fuck what he has to say about the ghetto... it's just a damn neighborhood in Long Beach California... If I move out to Seattle am I no longer real because I dont live in
"The Greentree Neighborhood Of Milwaukee Wisocnsin??"
NO! But I'll never forget my life while living there... I mean shit...... If you hate Snoop because he talks about a life that is 8 years behind him, then you should hate any rapper who raps today...period! You know damn well, there is not one "mainstream" rapper today who does not live in the same neighborhood... people never give Dre shit about rapping about the gang life... or Suge Knight... Deathrow Records is located in Hollywood... so are they now pimped by the celebrity high life.... I mean damn.... ignorance is all over this shit
-Big BpG
tight shit right there!!
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Verry true Big BPG.
The average listeners,you have a extremely good point there.
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Hey, where's that line in the wu song
"I'm speedin' up and leavin' um, i'm buckin' em till they bleedin' bro"
That's the tightest line in that song, besides "This Ne-gro right here, pimp hos!"
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BPG was on point definatly....We have all these people saying that Snoop aint gangsta cause he moved out the hood.Why would someone with millions of dollars stay in the hood???Street Credibility aint shit..The real Credibility is earned because he made it out of the hood.Shit man if I got Millions of dollars ,do u think i would be in this shitty ass trailer.I'd Be out in a minute..
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BPG was on point definatly....We have all these people saying that Snoop aint gangsta cause he moved out the hood.Why would someone with millions of dollars stay in the hood???Street Credibility aint shit..The real Credibility is earned because he made it out of the hood.Shit man if I got Millions of dollars ,do u think i would be in this shitty ass trailer.I'd Be out in a minute..
I thought Snoop had a tight flow on "Yo Sassy Ways."
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Urgh, is that the warren g track? i didn't like it at all (snoop's part)
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It's hit or miss with Snoop. Doggfather, Da Game, were huge letdowns. But since then he's dropped 3 great albums, The first Eastsidaz album, Top Dogg, and the Last Meal were all up to par. And like Trauma said he's got style. He'll always be one of my favorites... he's the reason I got deep into rap in 93. Doggystyle and the Chronic were the first albums I ever bought. I'll always be there to pick up Snoop's albums the day they drop. Peace.
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imagine that.....snoop dogg featuring Knock-turn'al on snoop's new album and knock's upcoming album!
....strange that snoop hasn't signed knock-turn'al on his label,
knock is from long beach.
what's your thoughts?
dre found the boy , snoop found e white
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SNOOP DOGG IS THE FUCCKIN SHIT....AINT NO ONE LIKE HIM, AND NO ONE WILL EVER BE LIKE HIM...HE IS TOTALLY SEPERATED FROM EVERYONE...
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dre found the boy , snoop found e white
dre didn't find knoc
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who does , eminem ???
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who does , eminem ???
who does what? if you mean who DID..Knoc has BEEN signed to LA Confidential Records BEFORE "bad intensions"
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hey just outta curiosity, was knoc on LA Confidential when he appeared on 2001?
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oh aight.. i tought he was dr new protege , my bad
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hey just outta curiosity, was knoc on LA Confidential when he appeared on 2001?
not sure if it existed back then... we first heard of LA Confidential after 2001... still that dont mean shit. when the initial roster came out it also came with rumours that Dre and BattleCat were signed to production contracts. apparently the guy that runs the label Big D is a friend of Dre's.
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Knoc-Turn'al and Time Bomb were both on L.A. Confidential Records when "2001" came out.