West Coast Connection Forum
Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: PLANT on October 09, 2006, 10:40:15 AM
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Todd from Santa Monica, CA: Chuck, I'm making plans to go to LA to see the Raps play the Lakers. Think Kobe will light the Raps up for 50 or more?
Chuck: This is the last time I will address the Kobe 81-point night. I have the plenty of respect for Kobe as a player. No one can question his incredible talent. That was last year. This is a different Raptors team with a different attitude. Will he get 50? I hope not. I believe in my heart the Raps have better talent than the Lakers.
Im with Chuck on this one...On paper anyways, the Raptors look better than the Lakers this season. What do you guys think?
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The Raptors got a lot of good young players.
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The starting lineup will most likely be
Rasho Nesterovich
Chris Bosh
Anthony Parker
Morris Peterson
TJ Ford
then, off the bench
Jorge Garbojsa
Fred Jones
Andrea Bargnani
Jose Calderon
Joey Graham
PJ Tucker
Kris Humphries
They got a sick team this year. Bargnani, Garbojsa and Fred Jones can all put up good numbers off the bench, and Calderon could be a solid backup to TJ Ford. PJ Tucker was the conference player of the year last year and he played on the same team as LaMarcus Aldrige. Tucker is the kind of guy you can stick at any position and he can flat out play. He averaged 16 PPG and 9 RPG last year at Texas and hes only 6'5.
Garbojsa and Calderon were they key players for Spain when they won gold at the worlds this summer. When Gasol got hurt, Garbojsa put up 20 and 10 in the gold medal game. Hes 6'9 and can play the SF or PF, but the guy can shoot the 3 bigtime. Toronto has alot of big guys who can play the perimeter and stretch the defense. Toronto is going to suprise alot of people this year.
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The Raptors are the Arizona Cardinals of Basketball. No matter what players they get, they will always suck. I don' see them going over 500 this year.
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The Raptors are the Arizona Cardinals of Basketball. No matter what players they get, they will always suck. I don' see them going over 500 this year.
How will they always suck? It was only 3 years ago when Vince was here, and we were a top team in the east. We made the playoffs 3 years in a row. Grow up, and do your homework. If you are going to reply, at least say something intelligent. And there is no way you can be the Cardinals of basketball when you have last years GM of the year running your franchise. The guy brought in 9 new players. thats a HUGE offseason. There is no denying the Raps are MUCH improved now. Not only that, Colangelo also gave us new uniforms and completely re-did the Raps locker room wich wasnt even 10 years old to being with. Its time to turn the page, this is the new era for raptors fans.
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The Raptors are the Arizona Cardinals of Basketball. No matter what players they get, they will always suck. I don' see them going over 500 this year.
How will they always suck? It was only 3 years ago when Vince was here, and we were a top team in the east. We made the playoffs 3 years in a row. Grow up, and do your homework. If you are going to reply, at least say something intelligent. And there is no way you can be the Cardinals of basketball when you have last years GM of the year heading your franchise.
They didn't do a damn thing in the playoffs and this year they are so overrated. They are not better than the Lakers homie, but I'll give you the Hawks ;D.
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The Raptors are the Arizona Cardinals of Basketball. No matter what players they get, they will always suck. I don' see them going over 500 this year.
How will they always suck? It was only 3 years ago when Vince was here, and we were a top team in the east. We made the playoffs 3 years in a row. Grow up, and do your homework. If you are going to reply, at least say something intelligent. And there is no way you can be the Cardinals of basketball when you have last years GM of the year heading your franchise.
They didn't do a damn thing in the playoffs and this year they are so overrated. They are not better than the Lakers homie, but I'll give you the Hawks ;D.
Id like to discuss this with a non-biased Lakers fan, or at least someone with some intelligence that I can take seriously.
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^^That guys not a Laker fan.
Anyways, LMAO@Raptors being better than the Lakers this year. That's a good one, homie...The Raptors are pretty much a new team, killing ANY chance they had of being better than the Lakers. I guarantee they will not have a better record than the Lakers, GUARANTEE, and this is in the eastern conference...And no, I'm not making any bets with you, because I'm still waiting on the stuff from our last bet!! ::)
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haha no way they're better than the Lakers.
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Honestly, I dont even see the Lakers making the playoffs this year. At best, the 8th spot. They didnt do shit in the offseason, so you should hope that Bynum is THAT much better this year. And you dont realy think that Farmer is going to make a difference, do you? The Raps will finish above 500 and make the playoffs. Book it.
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Why do you guys think the Lakers are better? Kobe is the only player thats better than someone on the Raptors. Bosh>> Odom. Fred Jones, Anthony Paker and Mo Peter are better than anyone else on the Lakers. Bargnani COULD be better than all your guys execpt Kobe and Lamar. TJ Ford>> Smush and Farmar, Calderon=Smush.
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Lakers-
PG Smush Parker...Jordan Farmar/Shammond Williams
SG Kobe Bryant...Sasha Vujacic/Aaron McKie
SF Vladimir Radmanovic...Luke Walton/Maurice Evans
PF Lamar Odom...Brian Cook/Ronny Turiad
C Kwame Brown...Chris Mihm/Andrew Bynum
Coach: Phil Jackson
vs.
Raptors-
PG TJ Ford...Jose Calderon/Darrick Martin
SG Anthony Parker...Fred Jones/PJ Tucker
SF Morris Peterson...Joey Graham/Kris Humphries
PF Chris Bosh...Andrea Bargnani/Jorge Garbajosa
C Rasho Nesterovic...Pape Sow/Uros Slokar
Coach: Sam Mitchell
...Pretty clear as to who's the better team.
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Fact of the matter is the Lakers are better than the Raps. Lakers will have a better record than the Raptors. Lakers will make the playoffs and the Raptors won't.
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Honestly, I dont even see the Lakers making the playoffs this year. At best, the 8th spot. They didnt do shit in the offseason, so you should hope that Bynum is THAT much better this year. And you dont realy think that Farmer is going to make a difference, do you? The Raps will finish above 500 and make the playoffs. Book it.
LMAO. Dude, you're either a huge Raptors homer, or you simply don't know your basketball...Lakers addressed their biggest need for the triangle this off-season, and that was a pure shooter (Radman). We had a wonderful draft day (Jordan Farmar, JR Pinnock, Maurice Evans), we added vetern experience (Shammond Williams), we had major progress from our younger players (Devin Green, Andrew Bynum, Brian Cook, Kwame etc.)...basically, to say Lakers aren't making the playoffs is not only a huge joke, but a mockery of your own knowledge...PeACe
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Why do you guys think the Lakers are better? Kobe is the only player thats better than someone on the Raptors. Bosh>> Odom. Fred Jones, Anthony Paker and Mo Peter are better than anyone else on the Lakers. Bargnani COULD be better than all your guys execpt Kobe and Lamar. TJ Ford>> Smush and Farmar, Calderon=Smush.
Now you are talking crazy. I am a fan of both the Raptors and the Lakers, and I can tell you there is no way the Raps are better. They are loaded with talent, but they still are a young team. Don't be surprised if they miss the playoffs this year as they get time to meh with each other. Kobe is better then any 2 players combined from the raptors (minus Bosh). When it is all said and done Bosh will be seen as a better player then Odom, but as of 2006, Odom>Bosh. Plus the Lakers have a better coach.
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Why do you guys think the Lakers are better? Kobe is the only player thats better than someone on the Raptors. Bosh>> Odom. Fred Jones, Anthony Paker and Mo Peter are better than anyone else on the Lakers. Bargnani COULD be better than all your guys execpt Kobe and Lamar. TJ Ford>> Smush and Farmar, Calderon=Smush.
LOL@you comparing player by player on the roster...Fact is, Lakers are the much better team, and until Raptors actually do something as a team, shit's not even comparable...Kobe, Odom, and Phil could pick 10 guys from an NBDL roster, form a new Laker team, and they'd STILL be better than the Raptors...PeACe
PS...LOL@you dodging our bet at every chance you get. That's some bitch-made shit man, I have NO respect for that whatsoever. I definitely thought you'd be above something like that.
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Raptors better LOL funny shit ive read 2day
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Why do you guys think the Lakers are better? Kobe is the only player thats better than someone on the Raptors. Bosh>> Odom. Fred Jones, Anthony Paker and Mo Peter are better than anyone else on the Lakers. Bargnani COULD be better than all your guys execpt Kobe and Lamar. TJ Ford>> Smush and Farmar, Calderon=Smush.
LOL@you comparing player by player on the roster...Fact is, Lakers are the much better team, and until Raptors actually do something as a team, shit's not even comparable...Kobe, Odom, and Phil could pick 10 guys from an NBDL roster, form a new Laker team, and they'd STILL be better than the Raptors...PeACe
PS...LOL@you dodging our bet at every chance you get. That's some bitch-made shit man, I have NO respect for that whatsoever. I definitely thought you'd be above something like that.
Whats so funny about comparing player by player? You are the king of doing that shit. You dont have any facts that the Lakers are better. Besides Lamar and Kobe, the rest of the Lakers are shit. Bargnani and Garbojsa are both = or better than Vlad Radmonich. I understand this is a Laker infested board, but you could at least give the raps some credit. And you calling me a Raptors Homer is pretty pathetic considering you are the biggest lakers Homer in the history of sports homers and everyone on DubCC knows it.
Ive seen you call me out on our bet like 20 times now, so let it go already. My buddy just lost his shipment from BC and that was only shipping shit inside our own country. I dont really feel like taking the risk of shipping drugs outside of the country, especially for something as small as a half quarter. Im sure you can deal with it buddy. And you calling me a bitch and saying you have no respect aint gona make me send that shit any faster.
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LAKERS>>>> RAPER
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as stephen a would say...
raaasssho nasteriviooooch? ??? ::)
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as stephen a would say...
raaasssho nasteriviooooch? ??? ::)
WHAT?
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Why do you guys think the Lakers are better? Kobe is the only player thats better than someone on the Raptors. Bosh>> Odom. Fred Jones, Anthony Paker and Mo Peter are better than anyone else on the Lakers. Bargnani COULD be better than all your guys execpt Kobe and Lamar. TJ Ford>> Smush and Farmar, Calderon=Smush.
LOL@you comparing player by player on the roster...Fact is, Lakers are the much better team, and until Raptors actually do something as a team, shit's not even comparable...Kobe, Odom, and Phil could pick 10 guys from an NBDL roster, form a new Laker team, and they'd STILL be better than the Raptors...PeACe
PS...LOL@you dodging our bet at every chance you get. That's some bitch-made shit man, I have NO respect for that whatsoever. I definitely thought you'd be above something like that.
Whats so funny about comparing player by player? You are the king of doing that shit. You dont have any facts that the Lakers are better. Besides Lamar and Kobe, the rest of the Lakers are shit. Bargnani and Garbojsa are both = or better than Vlad Radmonich. I understand this is a Laker infested board, but you could at least give the raps some credit. And you calling me a Raptors Homer is pretty pathetic considering you are the biggest lakers Homer in the history of sports homers and everyone on DubCC knows it.
Ive seen you call me out on our bet like 20 times now, so let it go already. My buddy just lost his shipment from BC and that was only shipping shit inside our own country. I dont really feel like taking the risk of shipping drugs outside of the country, especially for something as small as a half quarter. Im sure you can deal with it buddy. And you calling me a bitch and saying you have no respect aint gona make me send that shit any faster.
NIK compares player to player when there is an arguement over who is the best player, not team (usually, anyways). How can you say Bargnani is better then Radmanovic, when he hasn't even played an NBA game? Radmanovic is going to flourish as a Laker.
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. Besides Lamar and Kobe, the rest of the Lakers are shit. Bargnani and Garbojsa are both = or better than Vlad Radmonich.
LMAO...See. This is the shit that makes you lose credibility. Bargnani and Garbojsa haven't played a game in the league yet! Vlad Rad is already an established NBA vet barely entering his prime and has already performed at all-star levels. The rest of the Lakers are shit? Kwame, Vlad Rad, Smush, Farmar, Bynum, Turiaf, Mihm are shit? Now you're just TALKING SHIT.
I understand this is a Laker infested board, but you could at least give the raps some credit. And you calling me a Raptors Homer is pretty pathetic considering you are the biggest lakers Homer in the history of sports homers and everyone on DubCC knows it.
Not really...I use common sense and have credibility...A statement like Raptors>>>Lakers holds no credibility (nor common sense), I didn't claim Lakers were better than the Pistons at the beginning of last season... ::)
Ive seen you call me out on our bet like 20 times now, so let it go already. My buddy just lost his shipment from BC and that was only shipping shit inside our own country. I dont really feel like taking the risk of shipping drugs outside of the country, especially for something as small as a half quarter. Im sure you can deal with it buddy. And you calling me a bitch and saying you have no respect aint gona make me send that shit any faster.
LOL@let it go...Fact is, had you won that bet, I woulda' shipped that shit a longggg time ago, that's on everything I love. You woulda' had an eight AND smoked it wayyy back, because I keep my word and don't bitch out on bets. There's no excuse man, anyone can ship out an EIGHT of some weed, you don't even need to put a return address! Just seal it well and drop it in the mailbox, it's that simple...I know you've had way more than an eight on you since MAY (when I won the bet)...The fact of the matter is, you haven't kept your part of the bet, and if it were me, I woulda' been an eigth down, because I definitely woulda' sent you some shit, and to me, that's straight up fucked up...No way around it, keep making excuses, it became obvious you weren't gunna send it after the first few months. Especially when you said you'd have it for me in 2 weeks back when we first established the shipping info etc... :-\
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The Raptors are not better then the Lakers and are not more talented...that Raptors line up looks like crap....It's going to be a nother long season in Toronto ;D
And lol @ the Lakers not making the playoffs..
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the lakers have kobe bryant that's all that needs to be said about which team is better. Lamar Odom is a very good player, and then they're coached by one of the greatest coaches ever.
the rapotors got
chris bosh....ok he's good but he's not a superstar player
they got tj ford....^^^^^ but to a lesser extent
rasho ....okay , but he's not that much of difference maker down in the lanes
we'll see though when the season starts
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we'll see though when the season starts
right
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:-* ;D
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The Raptors poor preformance gives me no joy, but this thread is making me smile. :D
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This thread doesnt need to be brought up yet. Plant is the only Rap fan here and there are tons of Laker fans, yes the Lakers are better right now but there is no need to rub it in this early in the season ;D
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^^^^^ Raptors won't better than us at the end of the season lol
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^^^^^ Raptors won't better than us at the end of the season lol
I know they wont but its way to early to start rubbing it in Plants face have a lil respect ;D
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This thread doesnt need to be brought up yet. Plant is the only Rap fan here and there are tons of Laker fans, yes the Lakers are better right now but there is no need to rub it in this early in the season ;D
How is it to early? Lakers just played the Raptors and won...Perfect timing. 8)