West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: proverbs aka DD on October 10, 2006, 06:49:17 PM
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aiight ya'll.. Explain why you think Daz's So So Gangsta album flopped. I think it's all of the above.
1. Daz isnt sellable anymore. I think Daz's style is outdated. The album is stuck in the 90s. He needs to change his style if he wanna go commercial again.
2. JD shortchanged Daz.. Daz been on So So Def for 2-3 years now.. Yet you hear all these hits from JD (from Dem Franchise boys to Mariah Carey).. I'm suprised that JD didn't give Daz some of those songs..
3. West Coast rap can't sell.. The gangsta rap image is dying..
4. Rap music in general isn't selling. Rap music is starting to cool off now that you got the pop heavyweights releasing quality albums again..
5. This album is a good album if you're a die-hard Daz fan..
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Daz's time passed 10 years ago. He shoulda been a legend by now, not an up n comer.
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If you like the album, cool bump it, if not throw the shit away. Everybody is trying to come with this conspiracy theory as to why the album did not sell. Hell, I don't know. JUST ENJOY THE ALBUM!!!!
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becuz the single "on some real" wasnt that great
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i like the album..i dont give a fuck about sales
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i like the album..i dont give a fuck about sales
real talk
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I was the a HUGE supporter of this project until I realized how many tracks were not included on it... and from what I've heard A LOT of people are upset that he left off so many classics.
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Being a big daz fan I gota say this was an enjoyable album to me, however it missed a few of the previously leaked tracks which would have made it 10x better....
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i like the album..i dont give a fuck about sales
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i like the album..i dont give a fuck about sales
True True 8)
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dirty d u stupid mutha fucka who cares bout wht daz sold ths post is stupid u dumb fuck daz is wack and u are too u fuckin homo!
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I can't really answer the poll with just one question....
1. Choice of single wasn't bad, but it wasn't for Daz. If it had been a Rick Ross single that was attempting to get play in L.A., it would have worked. But this song ONLY got played in Miami from what I know, and it wasn't a party type song that could get pumped at clubs. At the same time....people who heard it in Miami probably figured "this is the only song on the album that sounds like this...so I'll just play it on DJ Miami Bass's mixtape instead of going to buy the album."
2. Promotion was actually decent compared to many releases, but still wasn't enough.
3. West Coast rap just has major problems selling nowadays.
4. Daz is actually one of the few older West Coast cats still marketable, because his voice and flow is stronger that it's ever been. But you just have to be hella careful on your choice of singles, because that will determine what audiences will catch it and want to buy it.
I could keep going....but those are the main issues to me.
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I liked the album and it surprised me that JD stayed behind the scenes, but the album doesnt have alot of replay value at all. just my opinion.
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dope album
the problem is no one buys good music anymore only shit sellin is garbage
people buy Ti, Jeezy, Joc.... people buy trash
no one likes good music no more
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the album is classic IMO (dont hate)
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the album is classic IMO (dont hate)
LMAO
but the reason he flopped is because no one is checkin for Daz anymore, people in the west don't even give a fukk about him
JD gave him a lot of coverage and hype, and ads were all over the place for this album
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i didn't have that chance, they don't sell it in canada
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Hiphop as a whole has no sense of history. Sure, the diehard fans know, and will always remember who the Dogg Pound are. I would put most of the people that come to these type of forums in the same category. If you like the music enough to come to a forum to read about it, you're probably going to know the history and check up on the old stuff. But your casual fans are only listening to stuff that came out in the last six months to a year. I think a lot of times, they sell off their cds that are any older than that. I also think that many of the causual hip hop fans are now too young to really even remember The Dogg Pound. Sure, they may remember Snoop, but he's almost become a cultural icon. I think the reality is that Daz and Kurupt are just as important to the history of the music, but by the casual fans will be largely overlooked.
Personally, I think "So So Gangsta" is a great album. It's actually the first Daz album I've bought since "R.A.W." I think it's very near classic if not classic. I was actually worried that it wouldn't sound westcoast at all, coming out on So So Def. But the production sounds great. The lyrics are solid. The track with Kurupt is one of my favorites (the hook on that one is damn catchy.) It's kind of nice for a change to not have an album that's 20 tracks deep when half of them are garbage. I'd take 12 solid tracks over twenty anyday, if only 10 out of the 20 are good.
I don't see the sales improving that much on this album, even with a good single and video. I think that's just the current state of hiphop. The westcoast scene has been largely overlooked for years anyway. But to be a westcoast artist who's carreer was probably at it's peak in 1995 is even more of a challenge, commercially.
At any rate, my hat's off to Daz for giving us a solid album.
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i didn't have that chance, they don't sell it in canada
wtf? and they sell it in sweden
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I think that's just the current state of hiphop. The westcoast scene has been largely overlooked for years anyway. But to be a westcoast artist who's carreer was probably at it's peak in 1995 is even more of a challenge, commercially.
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SO TRUE!!!
No need for any conspiracy theories here, people. West coast rap (outside Snoop) just isnt "in" right now, and what isnt in wont catch the eye of casual hip hop "fans" ( ::)) = it wont sell......
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aiight ya'll.. Explain why you think Daz's So So Gangsta album flopped. I think it's all of the above.
1. Daz isnt sellable anymore. I think Daz's style is outdated. The album is stuck in the 90s. He needs to change his style if he wanna go commercial again.
2. JD shortchanged Daz.. Daz been on So So Def for 2-3 years now.. Yet you hear all these hits from JD (from Dem Franchise boys to Mariah Carey).. I'm suprised that JD didn't give Daz some of those songs..
3. West Coast rap can't sell.. The gangsta rap image is dying..
4. Rap music in general isn't selling. Rap music is starting to cool off now that you got the pop heavyweights releasing quality albums again..
5. This album is a good album if you're a die-hard Daz fan..
chuuuuch the nigga stuck in 90s
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The album is dope, I wish he could've put "Git Drunk" & "Party People" on the album & used those songs as singles too...it probably would've helped...