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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Trauma-san on October 13, 2006, 02:24:19 PM
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? Gimme your reason, and then as the expert debater that I am, I'll anhilate it. Be prepared; do your homework.
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I'm probably not going to buy one, but it could be argued that someone wanted to get a Blu-ray player and a games console, then this would be a cheaper option than an X Box 360 or Wii and a standalone Blu-ray player.
Sorry, thats the best I could do ;D
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I don't think there's anybody alive hyped about a Bluray player, that does not work for Sony's promotional department. I mean, I haven't heard 1 fucking person ever even mention it in conversation. Alternatively, i have heard many people mention a PS3, and then say they weren't going to buy one. So not only do they not want to buy a ps3, and have made that decision, they aren't even considering talking about a blueray player.
So I don't think anybody wants to buy one for the player, so that's not a valid argument.... thank you for playing, though.
next.
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There is no reason to pick it up. Its going to flop like the sega saturn did and in a few years there will most likely be no "Blu Ray" or whatever you call it and its expensive as hell besides that.
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It's 4D :D
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yea there is no point in getting one at launch or even this year because there are no real exclusive games for it that would make it worth the purchase. Most of the launch titles have already been out on 360 for a few months or more.. I hear ppl sayin there gonna get one for the new final fantasy or MGS4 but both those games arent gonna come out for awhile..
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id shoot myself if i spent over $500 to get a PS3 just to play the new final fantasy
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Here we go............ ::)
I juss prefer the PS3 over the Wii and 360, but I'll still aim to get the Wii at a later date.
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Because you have no bitch and you're gonna have some extra time when you're not on dubcc.
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you have to buy a HDTV to use the bluray too. so thats like another fat dent in the bank acct.
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There is no reason to pick it up. Its going to flop like the sega saturn did and in a few years there will most likely be no "Blu Ray" or whatever you call it and its expensive as hell besides that.
I don't feel the ps3 will 'flop', but I think the sales will start to eventually trickle down, I don't see it being the powerhouse the ps2 has been.
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It's 4D :D
LOL
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Here we go............ ::)
I juss prefer the PS3 over the Wii and 360, but I'll still aim to get the Wii at a later date.
That's a pretty shitty reason. Even in my extreme fanaticism for Nintendo, I've never been so blind to buy one 'just cuz'. You lose but you've probably heard that in everything you do. Next.
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Because you have no bitch and you're gonna have some extra time when you're not on dubcc.
That's not console specific, though. You could do that with a 360. Next.
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you have to buy a HDTV to use the bluray too. so thats like another fat dent in the bank acct.
Yup. It's total bullshit, one of the absolute WORST examples of a company (Sony) selling us something we abso-fucking lutely do not need. Not only have they convinced us that our gaming system is not nice enough, now they're trying to convince us that the resolution on our televisions are not nice enough, PLUS, that our media to play movies (DVD) is not nice enough.
Well, I don't know about you, but I'm still having fun with my ps2. My t.v. with digital cable still looks fucking great. My DVD player I bought 5 years ago still looks lifelike as hell, and I don't mind having to change to another DVD every 6 hours of movietime! It's bullshit! I dont need anything they're pushing, yet they're trying to make me spend 600 bucks for the shit.
Think about it. Fucking MICROSOFT is giving people a better deal than this! If MICROSOFT is whipping your ass on 'consumer friendliness', you KNOW the company is fucking somebody. MICROSOFT! They're like fucking Satan and even their price is half what Sony's is!
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Oh, and here's another little quirky fact for you. How many of you had trouble out of a playstation? I know that everybody I've met has had a ps1, and a ps2 that simply burnt the fuck up. Some people have been through 3 or 4 each. These things are going to be the same, the shit's always fucked up in the design, especially at first.
On the other hand, how many of you have had a gameboy or a DS or a gamecube that fucked up? Nowhere NEAR as many problems out of Nintendo's shit because they consider it an obligation to make something half-assed bulletproof. I sell used games and systems on the weekends, and If it says "Nintendo" on it, it still works, period. I mean I've ran across the occasional gamecube that's fucked up, but most of their stuff is solid, even 20 year old NES systems work fine if you clean the connectors.
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only buy the PS3 of u can afford it...i think i can (a year or so after release)....so i'm gonaa buy it....i know once i get it i won't be disappointed
peace
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^ so you're waiting.. what if.. not enough people adopt it, and its seen as as turkey.. will you still bother?
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i'm only waiting because i just bought the xbox360...i was planning to buy the PS3 on launch....but ur righ, now it gives me the chance to see what other people think
peace
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Oh, and here's another little quirky fact for you. How many of you had trouble out of a playstation? I know that everybody I've met has had a ps1, and a ps2 that simply burnt the fuck up. Some people have been through 3 or 4 each. These things are going to be the same, the shit's always fucked up in the design, especially at first.
On the other hand, how many of you have had a gameboy or a DS or a gamecube that fucked up? Nowhere NEAR as many problems out of Nintendo's shit because they consider it an obligation to make something half-assed bulletproof. I sell used games and systems on the weekends, and If it says "Nintendo" on it, it still works, period. I mean I've ran across the occasional gamecube that's fucked up, but most of their stuff is solid, even 20 year old NES systems work fine if you clean the connectors.
i've had a ps2 since 2002...i live in 95% humidity with 30 degrees C temperatures....no issues from my ps2....ever....except that time when i put the fifa dvd in upside down
peace
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^ so you're waiting.. what if.. not enough people adopt it, and its seen as as turkey.. will you still bother?
lol i dont think that will happen,its gonna sell out when it comes out,theres alot of people that will only buy the ps3 because its the next playstation so they assume its the best, without taking a solid look at the competitors and see what great things they are doing. The Wii will be much more successfull then the gamecube and the 360 is much more better then xbox but some peeps just dont realise it..
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only buy the PS3 of u can afford it...i think i can (a year or so after release)....so i'm gonaa buy it....i know once i get it i won't be disappointed
peace
yea i think u made the right decision in coppin the 360 espcially since u got sucha good deal on it to begin with. Just chill with that till next year and by then there should be some great games out for ps3(exclusives) , theres just not that solid lineup right now ,theres not that game that u see and ur like "god damn i gotta get a ps3 at launch". By next year though it will be different, i mean its gonna be hard for me to pass on MGS4,that game looks sick!, but again that game isnt coming out till next fall/winter,mayb there might even b a price drop by then lol that would b nice too
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you have to buy a HDTV to use the bluray too. so thats like another fat dent in the bank acct.
Yup. It's total bullshit, one of the absolute WORST examples of a company (Sony) selling us something we abso-fucking lutely do not need. Not only have they convinced us that our gaming system is not nice enough, now they're trying to convince us that the resolution on our televisions are not nice enough, PLUS, that our media to play movies (DVD) is not nice enough.
Well, I don't know about you, but I'm still having fun with my ps2. My t.v. with digital cable still looks fucking great. My DVD player I bought 5 years ago still looks lifelike as hell, and I don't mind having to change to another DVD every 6 hours of movietime! It's bullshit! I dont need anything they're pushing, yet they're trying to make me spend 600 bucks for the shit.
Think about it. Fucking MICROSOFT is giving people a better deal than this! If MICROSOFT is whipping your ass on 'consumer friendliness', you KNOW the company is fucking somebody. MICROSOFT! They're like fucking Satan and even their price is half what Sony's is!
I do agree with this. I'm even sceptical about getting a 360 now, because I'm heard a lot of people saying that on a normal tv it is hard to make out some features because they are designed to be played in HD. I just re-bought a Dreamcast after not having one for 4-5 years after mine packed up on me back then and that will keep me satisfied until I pick up a Wii next year (unless there are some avaliable between launch and xmas that are not already pre-ordered). DVDs look perfectly fine at the moment and I still sometimes watch videos and don't have any massive complaints at the picture, its more the sound on old VHS's.
I think in a way Nintendo has finally found a way to get more people into gaming. Sony and Microsoft thought the way to do that was brand their consoles as being entertainment centres, which made them expensive and over complicated. The way to really get non-gamers into gaming is to give them something they understand and Nintendo has certainly done that with the Wii, which is why it looks like being a great success.
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Damn, the kid's got sense, AND he has a good musical taste. Shit.
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you have to buy a HDTV to use the bluray too. so thats like another fat dent in the bank acct.
Yup. It's total bullshit, one of the absolute WORST examples of a company (Sony) selling us something we abso-fucking lutely do not need. Not only have they convinced us that our gaming system is not nice enough, now they're trying to convince us that the resolution on our televisions are not nice enough, PLUS, that our media to play movies (DVD) is not nice enough.
Well, I don't know about you, but I'm still having fun with my ps2. My t.v. with digital cable still looks fucking great. My DVD player I bought 5 years ago still looks lifelike as hell, and I don't mind having to change to another DVD every 6 hours of movietime! It's bullshit! I dont need anything they're pushing, yet they're trying to make me spend 600 bucks for the shit.
Think about it. Fucking MICROSOFT is giving people a better deal than this! If MICROSOFT is whipping your ass on 'consumer friendliness', you KNOW the company is fucking somebody. MICROSOFT! They're like fucking Satan and even their price is half what Sony's is!
I do agree with this. I'm even sceptical about getting a 360 now, because I'm heard a lot of people saying that on a normal tv it is hard to make out some features because they are designed to be played in HD. I just re-bought a Dreamcast after not having one for 4-5 years after mine packed up on me back then and that will keep me satisfied until I pick up a Wii next year (unless there are some avaliable between launch and xmas that are not already pre-ordered). DVDs look perfectly fine at the moment and I still sometimes watch videos and don't have any massive complaints at the picture, its more the sound on old VHS's.
I think in a way Nintendo has finally found a way to get more people into gaming. Sony and Microsoft thought the way to do that was brand their consoles as being entertainment centres, which made them expensive and over complicated. The way to really get non-gamers into gaming is to give them something they understand and Nintendo has certainly done that with the Wii, which is why it looks like being a great success.
all the features work..its just that some of the text fonts are optimized for HDTV resolution, so they look a little distorted on a regular....i doesnt really bother me that much, its still legible...if ur TV is big enough it shouldnt be a problem....the rest of the visuals look great
peace
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Do you work for nintendo or something lol
Your obsessed man!!!!
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cus Stone Cold said so.
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360< ps3
6 gb<40 gb
just better quailty...so as i hear...
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i was always a Sony guy, i loved my ps1 and ps2 in fact i still have them connected to my tv just in case i wanna play them. And when i heard about the PS3 i was all fuckin hyped and was talking mad shit about xbox360 but that was until i played the COD demo at Gamestop. I became a believer and then a follower 360 is the shit. I see no reason why to wait and purchase a ps3 when a 360 can do the same thing. For those comparing hard drive space 20 gb for me is enough space, especially for a game console, i seriously don't see myself feeling up those 20 gigs. Just wait til Halo 3 comes out next year, then we'll see Microsoft kill Sony. And my last point why 360>PS3.......
XBOX LIVE
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yeah seriously.. a game console isn't a PC (hdd) and isn't a DVD player.. its for games, and games only..
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i was always a Sony guy, i loved my ps1 and ps2 in fact i still have them connected to my tv just in case i wanna play them. And when i heard about the PS3 i was all fuckin hyped and was talking mad shit about xbox360 but that was until i played the COD demo at Gamestop. I became a believer and then a follower 360 is the shit. I see no reason why to wait and purchase a ps3 when a 360 can do the same thing. For those comparing hard drive space 20 gb for me is enough space, especially for a game console, i seriously don't see myself feeling up those 20 gigs. Just wait til Halo 3 comes out next year, then we'll see Microsoft kill Sony. And my last point why 360>PS3.......
XBOX LIVE
I'm pretty much the same.......I'm juss continuing the trend....PSX....to PS2.....to PS3 whenever it gets released, lol :P. I'd love to have all 3 systems for the exclusive games, but that will set me back an arm and a leg.
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i was always a Sony guy, i loved my ps1 and ps2 in fact i still have them connected to my tv just in case i wanna play them. And when i heard about the PS3 i was all fuckin hyped and was talking mad shit about xbox360 but that was until i played the COD demo at Gamestop. I became a believer and then a follower 360 is the shit. I see no reason why to wait and purchase a ps3 when a 360 can do the same thing. For those comparing hard drive space 20 gb for me is enough space, especially for a game console, i seriously don't see myself feeling up those 20 gigs. Just wait til Halo 3 comes out next year, then we'll see Microsoft kill Sony. And my last point why 360>PS3.......
XBOX LIVE
yup and its been heavily rumored that microsoft will release a larger hardrive in the near future too
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i was always a Sony guy, i loved my ps1 and ps2 in fact i still have them connected to my tv just in case i wanna play them. And when i heard about the PS3 i was all fuckin hyped and was talking mad shit about xbox360 but that was until i played the COD demo at Gamestop. I became a believer and then a follower 360 is the shit. I see no reason why to wait and purchase a ps3 when a 360 can do the same thing. For those comparing hard drive space 20 gb for me is enough space, especially for a game console, i seriously don't see myself feeling up those 20 gigs. Just wait til Halo 3 comes out next year, then we'll see Microsoft kill Sony. And my last point why 360>PS3.......
XBOX LIVE
yup and its been heavily rumored that microsoft will release a larger hardrive in the near future too
yeah i would like to see at least a 60 gig, just to shut up PS3 fans.
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i was always a Sony guy, i loved my ps1 and ps2 in fact i still have them connected to my tv just in case i wanna play them. And when i heard about the PS3 i was all fuckin hyped and was talking mad shit about xbox360 but that was until i played the COD demo at Gamestop. I became a believer and then a follower 360 is the shit. I see no reason why to wait and purchase a ps3 when a 360 can do the same thing. For those comparing hard drive space 20 gb for me is enough space, especially for a game console, i seriously don't see myself feeling up those 20 gigs. Just wait til Halo 3 comes out next year, then we'll see Microsoft kill Sony. And my last point why 360>PS3.......
XBOX LIVE
yup and its been heavily rumored that microsoft will release a larger hardrive in the near future too
yeah i would like to see at least a 60 gig, just to shut up PS3 fans.
lol yea i wouldnt b surprised fi we see a 60gig or larger HDD upgrade within a year from now
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is it possible to transfer a game onto the HDD and play from the HDD so the loaind times are less?
And does anyone have problems with game videos on the 360...when ever videos play during a game its very jerky and jittery....its happened in 2 games, both new so i doubt its a problem with the games...and it happens everytime a video plays...pls help
peace
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you have to buy a HDTV to use the bluray too. so thats like another fat dent in the bank acct.
Yup. It's total bullshit, one of the absolute WORST examples of a company (Sony) selling us something we abso-fucking lutely do not need. Not only have they convinced us that our gaming system is not nice enough, now they're trying to convince us that the resolution on our televisions are not nice enough, PLUS, that our media to play movies (DVD) is not nice enough.
Well, I don't know about you, but I'm still having fun with my ps2. My t.v. with digital cable still looks fucking great. My DVD player I bought 5 years ago still looks lifelike as hell, and I don't mind having to change to another DVD every 6 hours of movietime! It's bullshit! I dont need anything they're pushing, yet they're trying to make me spend 600 bucks for the shit.
Think about it. Fucking MICROSOFT is giving people a better deal than this! If MICROSOFT is whipping your ass on 'consumer friendliness', you KNOW the company is fucking somebody. MICROSOFT! They're like fucking Satan and even their price is half what Sony's is!
haha i agree on the microsoft part, theyre beasts... but i bet they have a long term plan, they want to take over the house, lure you in now, then pow in the kisser 10 years down the line...
and i disagree 100% about your HDTV talk... would you buy a colour tv to play colour games? or would you play your colour games in black and white?
the t'v needs to keep up with the graphics, it's not just on the console..
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for the HDTV dvd player idea,
I like what microsoft is doing, their hd-dvd player is OPTIONAL, meaning if you don't have an hdtv, you are not stuck with something you cannot use, and whenever you have an hdtv and want higher quality movies, you can buy their player for cheaper than what the stores offer you ($200)
I have a 360 and do not have an hdtv...still looks great and i've enver had a problem with any of the games, and still without the hdtv looks betters than current gen consoles...
i've hooked up my 360 to an hdtv and it looks awesome, so 've never had a major problem with playing these next gen games on my non hdtv,
as for purchasing a ps3, the only good reason to purchase one (but this applies if you purchase it early), is just to make more income out of it. If you reserved one and buy one when it comes out, yo ucan go on ebay and sell it for at least $1100+ and thus making you more money out of it. I knew a few people that did that with the 360 and were typicaly selling the $400 360 for about $900+ average
I wanted to do this, but all the pre-orders for the ps3 are gone now, which sux, I personally didn't want the ps3 for gaming in this case, just to make some money off of it lol
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The color t.v. analogy is bullshit. Real life is in color. A black in white t.v. doesn't resemble real life.
My 27" color t.v. looks realistic as hell. There's virtually no discernable difference between it and a hdtv. That's just how it is, sorry, I don't believe the hype. I think I'll keep my money, thank you very much... here, YOU buy the 2000$+ t.v.
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What if you already have/plan to buy an HDTV? Is a PS3 going to be better than a 360?
My 27" color t.v. looks realistic as hell. There's virtually no discernable difference between it and a hdtv. That's just how it is, sorry, I don't believe the hype. I think I'll keep my money, thank you very much... here, YOU buy the 2000$+ t.v.
HD has a much better picture quality and VERY noticeable difference than analog or digital.
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Bullshit.
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never judge a book by its cover, now that's an argument
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is it possible to transfer a game onto the HDD and play from the HDD so the loaind times are less?
And does anyone have problems with game videos on the 360...when ever videos play during a game its very jerky and jittery....its happened in 2 games, both new so i doubt its a problem with the games...and it happens everytime a video plays...pls help
peace
No its not possible,well do u mean legally? cuz that would never b avalible because of copyright laws n all that shit, illegally not yet,u could do that with the old xbox, install like a 160gb hardrive and then rip games onto it, i dunno if it will happen wit 360 tho.. What 2 games r they? do any other games besides the 2 work fine?
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Bullshit.
LMAO. Someone needs to stomp on your head.
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i was always a Sony guy, i loved my ps1 and ps2 in fact i still have them connected to my tv just in case i wanna play them. And when i heard about the PS3 i was all fuckin hyped and was talking mad shit about xbox360 but that was until i played the COD demo at Gamestop. I became a believer and then a follower 360 is the shit. I see no reason why to wait and purchase a ps3 when a 360 can do the same thing. For those comparing hard drive space 20 gb for me is enough space, especially for a game console, i seriously don't see myself feeling up those 20 gigs. Just wait til Halo 3 comes out next year, then we'll see Microsoft kill Sony. And my last point why 360>PS3.......
XBOX LIVE
yup and its been heavily rumored that microsoft will release a larger hardrive in the near future too
yeah i would like to see at least a 60 gig, just to shut up PS3 fans.
lol yea i wouldnt b surprised fi we see a 60gig or larger HDD upgrade within a year from now
Yep rumor goes that they are gonna release some kind of ''super'' 360. With a bigger hdd, hd player built inside and a couple of HDMI connections.
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is it possible to transfer a game onto the HDD and play from the HDD so the loaind times are less?
And does anyone have problems with game videos on the 360...when ever videos play during a game its very jerky and jittery....its happened in 2 games, both new so i doubt its a problem with the games...and it happens everytime a video plays...pls help
peace
No its not possible,well do u mean legally? cuz that would never b avalible because of copyright laws n all that shit, illegally not yet,u could do that with the old xbox, install like a 160gb hardrive and then rip games onto it, i dunno if it will happen wit 360 tho.. What 2 games r they? do any other games besides the 2 work fine?
It is possible already to mod your 360. You cant put the games on your HDD, but you can play burned games.
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is it possible to transfer a game onto the HDD and play from the HDD so the loaind times are less?
And does anyone have problems with game videos on the 360...when ever videos play during a game its very jerky and jittery....its happened in 2 games, both new so i doubt its a problem with the games...and it happens everytime a video plays...pls help
peace
No its not possible,well do u mean legally? cuz that would never b avalible because of copyright laws n all that shit, illegally not yet,u could do that with the old xbox, install like a 160gb hardrive and then rip games onto it, i dunno if it will happen wit 360 tho.. What 2 games r they? do any other games besides the 2 work fine?
It is possible already to mod your 360. You cant put the games on your HDD, but you can play burned games.
yeah i read IT IS possible but i wouldn't even try to fuck with mine.
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Oh, and here's another little quirky fact for you. How many of you had trouble out of a playstation? I know that everybody I've met has had a ps1, and a ps2 that simply burnt the fuck up. Some people have been through 3 or 4 each. These things are going to be the same, the shit's always fucked up in the design, especially at first.
On the other hand, how many of you have had a gameboy or a DS or a gamecube that fucked up? Nowhere NEAR as many problems out of Nintendo's shit because they consider it an obligation to make something half-assed bulletproof. I sell used games and systems on the weekends, and If it says "Nintendo" on it, it still works, period. I mean I've ran across the occasional gamecube that's fucked up, but most of their stuff is solid, even 20 year old NES systems work fine if you clean the connectors.
I must have 100 ps2's in at work with fucked lasers over a period of 3 years. Like irrepairable laser fualts.
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Yup. Xbox's are bad about burning up the power supply inside, too. I've seen several like that.
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is it possible to transfer a game onto the HDD and play from the HDD so the loaind times are less?
And does anyone have problems with game videos on the 360...when ever videos play during a game its very jerky and jittery....its happened in 2 games, both new so i doubt its a problem with the games...and it happens everytime a video plays...pls help
peace
What 2 games r they? do any other games besides the 2 work fine?
i fixed it...i called xbox customer service and they told me i just had to change a setting in the console's display confidguration...i had to change it from PAL-50 to PAL-60....videos run smooth now
peace
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Bullshit.
man is there a difference between a 15" monitor and a 19" TFT LCD or whatever the fuck the flat screen is?
if you cant see the difference, hey maybe dont spend the 2000 because you wont put it to good use...
yeah i know it's expensive to buy a big ass plasma or LCD whatever, but you goto understand that technology is moving, and not just the console industry, but everything with it................
it's like putting a sick ass F1 engine into a datsun, yeah it'll still boot, but you wont have the aero dynamics of a f1 car... and you wont get the performance the engine is designed for...
if you cant understand this, you are out of touch, and getting old. sorry.
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You should buy a PS3 because it's ran off of Linux which means homebrew out of the box meaning dope shit.
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You should buy a PS3 because it's ran off of Linux which means homebrew out of the box meaning dope shit.
and that doesnt mean that people can homebrew either..
and FYI .. wii IS linux too..
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Bullshit.
man is there a difference between a 15" monitor and a 19" TFT LCD or whatever the fuck the flat screen is?
if you cant see the difference, hey maybe dont spend the 2000 because you wont put it to good use...
yeah i know it's expensive to buy a big ass plasma or LCD whatever, but you goto understand that technology is moving, and not just the console industry, but everything with it................
it's like putting a sick ass F1 engine into a datsun, yeah it'll still boot, but you wont have the aero dynamics of a f1 car... and you wont get the performance the engine is designed for...
if you cant understand this, you are out of touch, and getting old. sorry.
lol, goooo the Datsun.
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Bullshit.
man is there a difference between a 15" monitor and a 19" TFT LCD or whatever the fuck the flat screen is?
if you cant see the difference, hey maybe dont spend the 2000 because you wont put it to good use...
yeah i know it's expensive to buy a big ass plasma or LCD whatever, but you goto understand that technology is moving, and not just the console industry, but everything with it................
it's like putting a sick ass F1 engine into a datsun, yeah it'll still boot, but you wont have the aero dynamics of a f1 car... and you wont get the performance the engine is designed for...
if you cant understand this, you are out of touch, and getting old. sorry.
buuuuuulshit. Again, you ignore the obvious point and try to attack it from an incorrect analogy. A hdtv is not to a widescreen t.v. what a 19 inch lcd monitor is to a 15 inch crt. Sorry, you're mistaken. Nice try, next time don't insult me with easily destroyed analogies.
I'm saying, all things equal, two t.v.s of the same size do not look DRASTICALLY different if one's a regular digital t.v. and one's an hdtv. I'm sorry, they just don't. I was at Best Buy last night, I checked them all out side by side, and I swear to god, if ANYTHING, the plasmas had the WORST picture in the entire building.
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Trauma's new pro-Nintendo argument:
"HDTV IS THE SAME AS DIGITAL CABLE!"
LMAFO!
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Trauma's new pro-Nintendo argument:
"HDTV IS THE SAME AS DIGITAL CABLE!"
LMAFO!
uh no.. thats not what he said..
the truth is.
1) plasma's need an HDTV feed otherwise they make the normal digital feed look shitty
2) places like best buy do that.. they use repeaters to show the same shit across all tv types.. they make the plasma's etc LOOK BAD..
you put garbage in, you cant get anything but garbage out.
best buy should be using high quality sources for the high def tv's.
and fact is.. until everything is HD.. you are going to have in inputs sources that look wack on your expensive tv..
so unless you have HD games consoles and HD digital input for your satellite or cable.. an HD TV is pretty much not worth the hassle.. until you can afford an upscaling dvd player etc etc..
HDTVs aren't in enough homes yet.. especially over here.. dunno what the situation in the states is like..
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Trauma's new pro-Nintendo argument:
"HDTV IS THE SAME AS DIGITAL CABLE!"
LMAFO!
uh no.. thats not what he said..
the truth is.
1) plasma's need an HDTV feed otherwise they make the normal digital feed look shitty
2) places like best buy do that.. they use repeaters to show the same shit across all tv types.. they make the plasma's etc LOOK BAD..
you put garbage in, you cant get anything but garbage out.
best buy should be using high quality sources for the high def tv's.
and fact is.. until everything is HD.. you are going to have in inputs sources that look wack on your expensive tv..
so unless you have HD games consoles and HD digital input for your satellite or cable.. an HD TV is pretty much not worth the hassle.. until you can afford an upscaling dvd player etc etc..
HDTVs aren't in enough homes yet.. especially over here.. dunno what the situation in the states is like..
What do you mean it's not what he said? Part of his argument was that he couldn't tell the difference between a regular picture and a high definition picture...Every time Chief explains the difference, he simply denounces it as "bullshit". I understand that he also doesn't feel it's worth the hassle and money, but to say there's no difference is hilarious...PeACe
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Trauma's new pro-Nintendo argument:
"HDTV IS THE SAME AS DIGITAL CABLE!"
LMAFO!
uh no.. thats not what he said..
the truth is.
1) plasma's need an HDTV feed otherwise they make the normal digital feed look shitty
2) places like best buy do that.. they use repeaters to show the same shit across all tv types.. they make the plasma's etc LOOK BAD..
you put garbage in, you cant get anything but garbage out.
best buy should be using high quality sources for the high def tv's.
and fact is.. until everything is HD.. you are going to have in inputs sources that look wack on your expensive tv..
so unless you have HD games consoles and HD digital input for your satellite or cable.. an HD TV is pretty much not worth the hassle.. until you can afford an upscaling dvd player etc etc..
HDTVs aren't in enough homes yet.. especially over here.. dunno what the situation in the states is like..
What do you mean it's not what he said? Part of his argument was that he couldn't tell the difference between a regular picture and a high definition picture...Every time Chief explains the difference, he simply denounces it as "bullshit". I understand that he also doesn't feel it's worth the hassle and money, but to say there's no difference is hilarious...PeACe
yup. and i explained why tahts the case.. places like best buy don't use a HD feed to the digital equipment. which makes the expensive equipment look shitty as they're putting a low quality feed into a high quality tv. it makes the tv look shit when its not.
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Trauma's new pro-Nintendo argument:
"HDTV IS THE SAME AS DIGITAL CABLE!"
LMAFO!
uh no.. thats not what he said..
the truth is.
1) plasma's need an HDTV feed otherwise they make the normal digital feed look shitty
2) places like best buy do that.. they use repeaters to show the same shit across all tv types.. they make the plasma's etc LOOK BAD..
you put garbage in, you cant get anything but garbage out.
best buy should be using high quality sources for the high def tv's.
and fact is.. until everything is HD.. you are going to have in inputs sources that look wack on your expensive tv..
so unless you have HD games consoles and HD digital input for your satellite or cable.. an HD TV is pretty much not worth the hassle.. until you can afford an upscaling dvd player etc etc..
HDTVs aren't in enough homes yet.. especially over here.. dunno what the situation in the states is like..
What do you mean it's not what he said? Part of his argument was that he couldn't tell the difference between a regular picture and a high definition picture...Every time Chief explains the difference, he simply denounces it as "bullshit". I understand that he also doesn't feel it's worth the hassle and money, but to say there's no difference is hilarious...PeACe
yup. and i explained why tahts the case.. places like best buy don't use a HD feed to the digital equipment. which makes the expensive equipment look shitty as they're putting a low quality feed into a high quality tv. it makes the tv look shit when its not.
Yea, so his argument of it being "pretty much the same" is retarded...I have HDTV and it's 2 different worlds.
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Bullshit.
man is there a difference between a 15" monitor and a 19" TFT LCD or whatever the fuck the flat screen is?
if you cant see the difference, hey maybe dont spend the 2000 because you wont put it to good use...
yeah i know it's expensive to buy a big ass plasma or LCD whatever, but you goto understand that technology is moving, and not just the console industry, but everything with it................
it's like putting a sick ass F1 engine into a datsun, yeah it'll still boot, but you wont have the aero dynamics of a f1 car... and you wont get the performance the engine is designed for...
if you cant understand this, you are out of touch, and getting old. sorry.
buuuuuulshit. Again, you ignore the obvious point and try to attack it from an incorrect analogy. A hdtv is not to a widescreen t.v. what a 19 inch lcd monitor is to a 15 inch crt. Sorry, you're mistaken. Nice try, next time don't insult me with easily destroyed analogies.
I'm saying, all things equal, two t.v.s of the same size do not look DRASTICALLY different if one's a regular digital t.v. and one's an hdtv. I'm sorry, they just don't. I was at Best Buy last night, I checked them all out side by side, and I swear to god, if ANYTHING, the plasmas had the WORST picture in the entire building.
Its a major difference with consoles. Check an 360 on a regular tv and a hd tv, youll see the difference.
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yeah but you gotta check on the same size.. they dont 'do' many small HDTVs..
and they dont do many large non HDTVs really..
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there's no comparision...if u have high definition video and an hdtv, u can def tell teh difference from a regular tv
no matter what the size, images on an hdtv are crisper and sharper
peace
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motherfuckin homo. u need net strangers to convince u to buy a PS3 ? fuckin fag. do u need us to approve the bitch ur gona fuck tonight too ? oh i wait, i meant to say do u want us to approve the guy ur gona get humped by tonight too ?
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LOL!
there's no comparision...if u have high definition video and an hdtv, u can def tell teh difference from a regular tv
no matter what the size, images on an hdtv are crisper and sharper
peace
yeah of course.. the point is.. that if you put garbage in (i.e. a crap non HD digital stream) its not gonna look any better than a tv the same size.. HOWEVER.. if you supply a good HD signal.. the HD vs non HD will of course be obvious..
the point again is.. you can't polish a turd.. if you don't have a HD signal in.. your HDTV isnt anything special.. it can't make something not HD magically look better.. in fact because of the better resolutions it can make things look worse..
i'm going flat tv/HD when it suits me.. (i.e. my tv breaks.. or they're cheap enough to not look over..) my current tv is 100hz (so flicker free) and has a 5.1 decoder built in.. so i lose out if i upgrade the tv..
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1 - Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
2 - Devil May Cry 4
3 - Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Sony usually has so many games being made for them that there are always great games being released on the system, wether exclusives like Shadow of the Colossus an God of War or multi-platform games. i could care less about the features of the console all i care about is if great games are been made for it and those 3 titles plus games like Resistance: Fall of Man and WarHawk, plus the possibily of continuing the God of War series on the PS3 plus i read that they are trying to develop a sequel th Shadow of the Colossus with co-op via online in which 2 people can face the colossi.
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i loved ninja gaiden on the xbox.. till i lost my save when the hdd died :(
team ninja can do no wrong..
i'm not a huge games player these days.. what with work, skateboarding, gym, a lady etc.. so i wanna pick something up and fuck around.. wii suits me..
10 years ago i'd have been all xbox360 or ps3.. but i know myself it'd be a waste..
the last console i bought myself was the original gameboy when the came out.. inbetween i had a CD32 and an XBOX but both were presents..
although i was a pretty hardcore GL Quake/ Quake 2 player.. i was damn good for a while..
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1 - Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
2 - Devil May Cry 4
3 - Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Sony usually has so many games being made for them that there are always great games being released on the system, wether exclusives like Shadow of the Colossus an God of War or multi-platform games. i could care less about the features of the console all i care about is if great games are been made for it and those 3 titles plus games like Resistance: Fall of Man and WarHawk, plus the possibily of continuing the God of War series on the PS3 plus i read that they are trying to develop a sequel th Shadow of the Colossus with co-op via online in which 2 people can face the colossi.
-Ninja Gaiden will most likely be coming out on 360,dont think its been confirmed as ps3 exclusive has it?
- The thread is about giving reasons to buy a ps3 now,like at launch. The games u listed wont be coming out until late 2007 or sometime in 2008..
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-Ninja Gaiden will most likely be coming out on 360,dont think its been confirmed as ps3 exclusive has it?
- The thread is about giving reasons to buy a ps3 now,like at launch. The games u listed wont be coming out until late 2007 or sometime in 2008..
no, he said give him a reason to purchase a PS3, he didn't say at launch. and for the Ninja Gaiden being PS3 exclusive,
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 360-bound?
Source: See below.
What we heard: With game press outlets in virtually every language but Esperanto, often things get lost in translation. Case in point: this week's rumor that Ninja Gaiden Sigma, the revamped and PS3-bound version of Ninja Gaiden Black, is coming to the Xbox 360.
The rumor got the most exposure on the widely ready NeoGAF forums, which sourced an article on the Japanese-language site GDEX--in which the only words in English were "PS3," "Ninja Gaiden," and "Xbox 360," followed by a "?". (NOTE: The title of the thread has since been changed.)
Obviously, that means that the PS3 version of Nina Gaiden Sigma is coming to the Xbox 360, right? In short, no. The GDEX story links in turn to an article on the German site Xboxfront, which bears the title "'Ninja Gaiden Sigma' nicht für Xbox 360." Auf Deutsch, that means "'Ninja Gaiden Sigma [is] not for the Xbox 360."
"Now it's official," reads the article. "The action title Ninja Gaiden Sigma, which was first announced at this year's Tokyo Game Show by Tecom, is staying PS3-exclusive...reports [Japanese magazine] Famitsu Xbox 360." The Xboxfront/Famitsu article goes on to say that Team Ninja head Tomonobu Itagaki will return his focus of development to the Xbox 360 in the future.
The official story: Tecmo reps did not respond to requests for comment. However, Itagaki himself professed his Xbox 360 loyalty in an interview on GameTrailers.com, in which he talked about how he has little to do with Sigma, which is being produced by his Team Ninja associate Yousuke Hayashi.
"People who are supporters of Xbox should view this as a good thing," he said. "What I've done is pass the baton over to someone else. I can focus even more of my attention on making new games for the Xbox 360. ... My home base is the Xbox 360, and I'm going to continue to make games [for it] at the same pace, if not faster."
As for which games, Itagaki would only say that after he finishes Dead or Alive Xtreme 2, "my next game is going to be what everyone's expecting."
Bogus or not bogus?: One sarcastic NeoGAF poster put it best: "A Japanese site reporting about a German site reporting about an article in a Japanese magazine? Makes sense." Bogus.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=25040134
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^well obviously he meant now,why would he ask that question now if he was talking about in 2 years?
Ill be surprised if NG doesnt make it to 360,interesting quote from the main man "my next game is going to be what everyone's expecting."
and everyones expecting Ninja Gaiden for 360 lol so i duno whats goin on..
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BowDown's never gonna get a PS3, he juss wants to spark crap........
He's like a disgruntled former PS fanboy, lol, bashing PS3 all day, every day
Someone close this thread already, it's going no where!!!!!!
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i loved ninja gaiden on the xbox.. till i lost my save when the hdd died :(
team ninja can do no wrong..
i'm not a huge games player these days.. what with work, skateboarding, gym, a lady etc.. so i wanna pick something up and fuck around.. wii suits me..
10 years ago i'd have been all xbox360 or ps3.. but i know myself it'd be a waste..
the last console i bought myself was the original gameboy when the came out.. inbetween i had a CD32 and an XBOX but both were presents..
although i was a pretty hardcore GL Quake/ Quake 2 player.. i was damn good for a while..
you are now the second person i know that actually likes ninja gaiden...
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i loved ninja gaiden on the xbox.. till i lost my save when the hdd died :(
team ninja can do no wrong..
i'm not a huge games player these days.. what with work, skateboarding, gym, a lady etc.. so i wanna pick something up and fuck around.. wii suits me..
10 years ago i'd have been all xbox360 or ps3.. but i know myself it'd be a waste..
the last console i bought myself was the original gameboy when the came out.. inbetween i had a CD32 and an XBOX but both were presents..
although i was a pretty hardcore GL Quake/ Quake 2 player.. i was damn good for a while..
you are now the second person i know that actually likes ninja gaiden...
you are the only person i know that doesnt like ninja gaiden
how can u not like it? game was a classic
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lol what did u not like about it? i seriously cant understand why someone wouldnt like it, not into action games or sumthin?
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lol what did u not like about it? i seriously cant understand why someone wouldnt like it, not into action games or sumthin?
Some people didnt like it because it was to diffucult for them. Games are getting to easy these days, so people start crying when a game gets a little more difficult. But Ninja gaiden doesnt even come close on how difficult games were back in the day.
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Yeah, I play the o.g. Ninja Gaiden's, fuck the new ones.
I went to wal-mart last night and checked out their hdtv's. Shit.
I will not be buying one, mine looks better than that, sorry, that's just how it is. If I need to buy an hdtv cable and an hdtv player and an hdtv sattelite hookup and an hdtv game console, how about I just keep what I got? It looks fine to me.
In the meanwhile, you guys should stop by my house and play my Genesis/Master System/NES/SNES/N64/Dreamcast/Saturn/2600/5200/ Gamecube/Xbox/PS2 I have hooked up to my 200 dollar 27" t.v. Looks fucking amazing.
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Yeah, I play the o.g. Ninja Gaiden's, fuck the new ones.
I went to wal-mart last night and checked out their hdtv's. Shit.
I will not be buying one, mine looks better than that, sorry, that's just how it is. If I need to buy an hdtv cable and an hdtv player and an hdtv sattelite hookup and an hdtv game console, how about I just keep what I got? It looks fine to me.
In the meanwhile, you guys should stop by my house and play my Genesis/Master System/NES/SNES/N64/Dreamcast/Saturn/2600/5200/ Gamecube/Xbox/PS2 I have hooked up to my 200 dollar 27" t.v. Looks fucking amazing.
Come on man stop lying. Have you ever seen a working 360 on a hdtv? If you have ever seen that youll understand what were talking about.
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he's not saying its not better.. he's showing its a trap.. using old equipment on HDTV makes your old shit look wack as it shows the flaws..
if you're not moving all your shit to HD.. whats the point in spending more on something that makes your old shit look bad that you won't fully use unless you spend 1000s more.
so flip that..
if you're only buying a console and don't have HDTV.. whats the point in going for a console that you need to spend 1000s on a tv to make look any good? (ok with the 360 you can use a PC monitor/flat or not that supports the resolutions)..
they're trying to sucker people into an upgrade cycle.. think about it.. sony makes all the AV equipment that you'd need to get your HDTV fix.
Graphically
fully loaded PC > xbox 360 or ps3 > wii > xbox > ps2 / gamecube
PCs will always be ahead of the game.. BUT.. shit i spent 270 pounds on my last pc graphics card JUST to play doom3 really..(i was running a bare bones intel onboard 2d thing until then)... i got bored of it within a week.. the wii is 180 plus i'm spending another 90 on bits.. oh look.. 270 pounds .. so roughly the same cost! 1 pc gfx card vs console with 5 games + buying 10 more (thats wii play + red steel + zelda) for another 90 ish..
they're trying to turn these games consoles into pc's.. microsofts influence on the game no doubt! it aint happening in my house!
my pc is for the internet n shit.. my wii will be for games.. thats it!
i remember back in the day the argument was "how many colours is it".. 8bit, 16 bit n all that.. now its full colour.. just screen size/resolution going up...
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Well were being forced into HD, but to be honest i dont mind. Im just waiting till 2007 to buy mine HD. Its a new progress in the tv, gaming etc business, and its a good one. Its a step further on gettin foto realistic games. Especially when PS3 is dropping with 1080P, thats gonna be crazy.
But he's right its not logical to buy an HD tv if you dont have a 360 or PS3, or the otherway around. Im one of those who bought a 360 without a HD tv, just because i couldnt afford a new pc at the time. I dont have no regrets, cuz the main thing for me was to play all the newest games, with no problems. Off course i rather have a new pc, but just a good video card is more expensive then a 360.
But think about it, your gettin for 400 euro a fully loaded PC, dedicated for playing games. What do you want more?
Its a good move from Nintendo for not competing on graphics but gameplay. I support them 100% thats why im also gonna buy a WI. But i probably gonna end up buying them all lol.
But the point is, HD is the future/next step (for now).
I dont understand what your point is. Do you mean you want everybody to boycot HD and continue on the same way?
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nah but people are making it sound like HD = better games.. when HD doesnt make gameplay better.. and is actually making game development for consoles more expensive, harder, longer and reducing the size of games, but just decorating them better. things reach a point where they're not worth the effort. i believe we're nearly there. some PC games have taken yeaaaaaaaars to produce.. this doesn't wash in the console world.
i'm gonna get a HDTV.. either when my tv breaks or whatever.. and i may be sucked into a xbox360 down the line.. but only for a couple reasons.
1 - i use a hacked xbox to stream movies (mostly skate videos and downloaded music videos) through on to my tv. its not got enough power to decode some videos.. so when a xbox360 is hacked.. and an XBMC equivalent comes out.. then i'm down for it.. although equivalents are in the market place.
2 - tony hawks project 8
HDTVs are just a merging of PC flat screen tech and TVs.. more money for old rope.. the main thing is actually practical. they're smaller depth size, but are capable of being bigger + wider at the same time. a dual attraction but worthless until you have xbox360 + sky hd (or hd cable) + an upscaling dvd player or HD DVD/blue ray to drive it (which means relpacing your dvd collection just like you did frmo VHS to DVD right? lol) outside the screen size and space saving benefits you don't "gain" quality unless you spend another wedge of cash on components..
All PC monitors are capable of 1080p and have been for many years.. hell most newer high end laptops can do it.
HDTVs are here to stay and will be super common place soon.. the electronics stores have ditched their CRTs already..
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The only reason I'm not getting a HDTV is because I still want to use my "old" equipment, i.e. DVD player, video player, Dreamcast, PS1, Megadrive, without them looking shitty on the HDTV. The whole concept of HDTV is forcing people to buy all the new gear because it makes their old stuff look bad, the fact that they couldn't make it "backwards technology friendly" is stupid to me. SCART tvs didn't start making a standard aerial single look rubbish and RGB TVs didn't make SCART look bad, so why does the HDTV have to make any of these signals look bad? You're going to end up with a load of households who have a HDTV and a standard digital tv just so they can use all of their equipment.
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part of the problem is colour bleed.
essentially there is a slightly bleeding of colours on standard TVs. whereas with HDTV/computer monitors (they're essentially the same shit).. things are so damn pixel perfect you get jagged edges on stuff where you'd never notice them on a normal tv.
this is then magnified by the increased size of the screens possible with flat screens (which CRT just wasnt capaable of)... so the pixelated edges on a similar screen size wouldnt be 'so' bad.. but look damn awful when you blow them up
so HDTV makes old shit look doubley bad
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O-san perfectly understood what I was saying. I enjoy old things, I find value in something's intrinsic qualities, not it's newness or freshness. I'm quite happy with the t.v. I have now, and I paid 200 dollars for it brand new. 10 years ago, I wouldn't have bought the t.v. I have now because it would have been 1000 dollars. I'm well behind the curve and quite happy there. There is no way I can justify spending money on an hdtv right now when so many of the things I use a t.v. for would have absolutely no benefit from it and would actually even look worse in many instances. Just the other night I was watching a vhs tape of "American Hot Wax" that I taped off the television when I was like 8. It wouldn't even be watchable on an hdtv. I'm in a totally different league, I dont' drive a brand new car, I drive a 1969 mustang. I don't run out and buy the newest nickelback cd, I go buy the new Chuck Berry greatest hits or something. I have a record player from the 40's in my bedroom. I bought a Donkey Kong arcade game monday from a guy for 50 bucks. New technology does not impress me, and doesn't even interest me.
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edit: the Wii is new technology, and impresses me as well as interests me, but that's because it has intrinsic value. There is true, timeless creativity in the machine, and it carries the passion it's developers poured into it from their hearts. Kind of like the guys who designed my timeless mustang, or the folks who made my record player's mahogany cabinet in the 40's, or Shigeru Miyamoto who developed that Donkey Kong arcade game I bought, timeless, true objects in a world full of bullshit and flashy imposters.
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lol what did u not like about it? i seriously cant understand why someone wouldnt like it, not into action games or sumthin?
Some people didnt like it because it was to diffucult for them. Games are getting to easy these days, so people start crying when a game gets a little more difficult. But Ninja gaiden doesnt even come close on how difficult games were back in the day.
correct me if i'm wrong... but all you do in ninka gaiden is press jump and attack button ???
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^ which version of ninja gaiden did you last play???
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His was red and shit. LOL
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^ which version of ninja gaiden did you last play???
ninja gaiden on x-box... it was crap, all you do is run around levels, that all look similar, and press one attack button, and theres probably a special button too..
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^ which version of ninja gaiden did you last play???
ninja gaiden on x-box... it was crap, all you do is run around levels, that all look similar, and press one attack button, and theres probably a special button too..
Did you finished the game?
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i didn't coz my xbox harddrive died.. oh what a same i had to update it to an 80 gig one :D
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^ which version of ninja gaiden did you last play???
ninja gaiden on x-box... it was crap, all you do is run around levels, that all look similar, and press one attack button, and theres probably a special button too..
Did you finished the game?
bs.. if u tried running around pressing one button in ninja gaiden ud b dead in a second,that game was fuckin hard, takes serious skill to beat...