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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: njswing on October 21, 2006, 03:26:24 AM
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Find this interesting.
G-Unit/Shady/Aftermath seems to be fucking up their album promotion every has flopped.
Busta only has sold 540,000 to date, not sure bout opening week, but I doubt it was anything crazy. Obie has only sold 150,000 to date. So he is for sure a major flop. Banks selling only 140,000 isn't terrible considering the sales of everyone else lately, but compared to what he first did, 400,000. It was a major flop. Game attacking G-Unit has certainly paid a toll on their sales. Before you all say it wasn't Game, believe me, if Game was still on G-Unit, none of yall would be screaming snitch when you see 50.
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what a fantastic thread and a very valid point.
i know i for one buy music based on what artists say about other artists
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come on man, the people that BUY music probably didnt even hear the diss tracks.
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Noone screams "snitch" when they see 50, you would be actually kissing his ass. Even Game won't scream that.
And I really doubt this is because of Game, it's because of the state of music industry.
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So I guess the Game is responsible for every other rapper not even on those labels not selling?
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Dre's Detox will flop and only sell an amount off 112,315 because no Game :'(
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hell no , stop giving Game credit that he don't deserve
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Yes, Game is responsible for the record industry's slump in sales ACROSS THE BOARD. It's so obvious, I don't know why I didn't see it earlier. ::)
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people are fickle so I'll buy that Game might have a hand in "some" of the decline in sales. But I'm pretty sure album sales across the board are down. I think another thing you have to think about is that Shady/Aftermath/G-Unit hasn't released all that much lately. And of what I've heard from them this year, the only thing I really liked was the new Obie Trice album.
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game was a factor but there r loads of other factors to why g unit aint selling.
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and Jim Jones too
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Find this interesting.
G-Unit/Shady/Aftermath seems to be fucking up their album promotion every has flopped.
Busta only has sold 540,000 to date, not sure bout opening week, but I doubt it was anything crazy. Obie has only sold 150,000 to date. So he is for sure a major flop. Banks selling only 140,000 isn't terrible considering the sales of everyone else lately, but compared to what he first did, 400,000. It was a major flop. Game attacking G-Unit has certainly paid a toll on their sales. Before you all say it wasn't Game, believe me, if Game was still on G-Unit, none of yall would be screaming snitch when you see 50.
how old are u?? are u fuccin stupid or what???. game didn't start this snitch shit. all that shit came from the streets of NYC and Murder Inc did a good job in tellin the world. and nobody gives a fucc what game sais. this nigga stabbed his own brother in the bacc. he's a disloyal nigga. and everybody in Compton and Watts know it. this nigga a clown and no matter how gangsta he tries to make himself sound it can never block the truth. i really dont give a shit if he was on change of heart but the nigga was a stripper in a club. what the fucc nigga??. is you a bitch or what. And I ain't no G-Unit fan. I got love for Spider Loc and Bucc tho. Nobodys perfect but at least they never stripped.
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Maybe its because only one of the albums had a hit single 'Touch It' and that was released long before the album came out...
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I think Game contributed to them (G-Unit) as being looked at as the old shit and not the "cool thing" in mainstream hip hop. Much like 50 contributed to Ja Rule being looked at as old, corny shit. Both Game and 50 were not the direct result of their rivals fading. Ja oversaturated the market and people were tired of him, if 50 would have began his attack say a year prior in full force it wouldn't have been the same. Game is a similar situation. G-Unit was oversaturating the market and just like everything in hip hop were starting to look like "old shit" (regardless of them not being that old) Game did get at them and put alot of shit out there that made people not fuck with G-Unit. Anyone who lives in Southern California can tell you that alot of people were or are still rocking G-Unot shirts. He however is not the direct reason.
The direct reason is not Game or the music industry lack of sales....its the fact that no one stays on top of hip hop for many many years in a row. Either people get tired of them, they fuck something up themself, or any other combination of reasons. Very few people have had longevity in hip hop and even those guys "fell off" at one point in time. For example look at Dr Dre, he has had one of the greatest runs in hip hop period. There was a point in time when people really were not checking for him like that. The G-Unit toy soldiers are pretty much done as solo artists, the buzz of 50 is not pushing units for those guys anymore. 50 however will continue to be a platnium selling artist for many years to come. His brand did take a hit from Game whether people want to admit it or not. Again, Game was not the direct reason, he wasnt even as big of a reason as oversaturation, but he contributed.
Shit is a cycle in hip hop, no one stays on top forever, and when artists oversaturate the market....like G-Unit and Ja Rule most recenetly have, people move onto other shit.
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let's just wait and see how much Game's gonna sell
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The game is getting alot of love. i knew this was going to happen
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Another Game groupie....your given game too much credit here for this one...50 was a bitch and a "snitch" long before Game & 50 hooked up...How game is responsible for Busta and Obie not selling what everbody thought they were gonna sell is beyond me....Game will move units, but I doubt he'll move the same amouth of units as he did his first time....If anybody is responsible for the "decline" in sales for Aftermath/Shady/G-Unit it's Dre(Dr. Lazy)...Hi[ Hop/Rap fans aren't buying albums like they once did, when had to purchase albums just to hear the traccs on it or listen the radio late at night where they would premeier traccs off the album before they were released.
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If anybody is responsible for the "decline" in sales for Aftermath/Shady/G-Unit it's Dre(Dr. Lazy)
I agree with what you're saying but how is Dre responsible for albums released on Shady and G-Unit?
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I don't think game killed g unit let alone these artists he never even dissed...
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game might have had a little to do with it but i'll tell you the main reason everyone is anticipatin games album and no one cares about g-unit's
becuz g-unit's music is shitty and is only gettin shittier
most of game's shit is dope
and i like to listen to game, don't like to listen to g-unit
50's first album and the g-unit album is all i ever liked
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If anybody is responsible for the "decline" in sales for Aftermath/Shady/G-Unit it's Dre(Dr. Lazy)
I agree with what you're saying but how is Dre responsible for albums released on Shady and G-Unit?
Your right, I was thinking on a smaller scale and quality at the time...He's not "actually" or directly responsible for albums released on Shady/G-Unit, but Game is the last person I would say is responsible for the decline...I'm sure almost everyone would like an executive produced Dre album, an album mixed by Dre, or at least 3 or 4 cuts from him and who better then to receive that then your in-house team....Jimmy I or the artists themselves might be a better argument.
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g-unit is just played out.
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Busta only has sold 540,000 to date, not sure bout opening week, but I doubt it was anything crazy. Obie has only sold 150,000 to date. So he is for sure a major flop.
Forget G-Unit, how the hell can The Game caused Obie to flop? PLease answer this for me. Game never attacked Obie of Shady. Infact Game has love for Eminem. When Busta's album came out, Game was still on Aftermath and was showing majopr love to Dre. Game even had Busta and Eminem on his album. Think before you make such ridiculuos claims. This is a West Coast forum not the BWS forum, you can't get away with saying such stupid shit.
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Game did take a big piece of the G-Unit fanbase with him. But for the most part, their sales are down cuz they fuckin suck. Yayo, Mobb Deep, and Lloyd Banks all put out damn near the same album and no one liked either of them.
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Have you guys ever had the thought that maybe it just might be pirating? Think about it. People are starting to use the interent a lot more now and why waste 20 minutes of your time to go down and buy a $15 CD when you can get it in 3 minutes for free in your computer? That's just a thought.
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Have you guys ever had the thought that maybe it just might be pirating? Think about it. People are starting to use the interent a lot more now and why waste 20 minutes of your time to go down and buy a $15 CD when you can get it in 3 minutes for free in your computer? That's just a thought.
lol oh yeah bootlegging music just started this year ::)
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its not the THE GAME its the 'game'
the rap game is like this, trends come and go, their time has passed....
first it was ole school new york hip hop then we had ruthles/nwa, then deathrow. then no limit, then all the new york shit, then g-unit/shady, NOW SOUTH CLUB SHIT
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its not the THE GAME its the 'game'
Nicely put.
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you guys ever consider that the music they have put out lately is really garbage. ;D
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you guys ever consider that the music they have put out lately is really garbage. ;D
80% of the hip hop music on BET, MTV and the radio is wack, but artist manage to sell. These days the quality of your music is playing a smaller and smaller role in how much you sell.
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Game my ass, people don't like this shit anymore, simple as that
it's old and recycled, enough said
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Game has very little to do with G-Unit's falling sales, if anything. G-Unit is just gettin played out, it's that simple. It was the same way with Ja - getting killed on wax by 50, Em, Dre, Busta, and Obie definitely was embarrassing, but what really killed Ja was just the fact that he'd been doing the same shit over and over for the past 5 years and people were getting tired of it. Your argument that he's responsible for Busta and Obie fliopping doesn't make sense cause he never beefed with them or dissed them.
And like other people have said, let's see how well Game does before we draw conclusions one way or the other. His own label fell apart beneath him, his entire hood now claims his gangsta image was something they helped fabricate, he makes himself look like a bitch cause he puts out a new mixtape dedicated to beef every week, and people have been questioning whether or not he could shine on his own without Dre and 50 ever since he came out. Game's still got a lot to prove.
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I think you dont have to be a genius to know that the only reason Buck,Banks and Game too (and Yayo too) sold becuase of 50 Cents hype. Just like none of the Nsync sold as much as Justin Timberlake, or DTP members as much as Ludacros or DPG as much as Snoop....
The fact is Game shouldnt even talk about GUnit "flops". When he has a label when 3 artist go 1x plat and more, one does 700.000, a group album going 2x plat, a soundtrack going 2x times plat and 2 artists (Mobb Deep and Banks) probably going gold after some time ONLY THEN can he be such a cocky idiot like now.
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Have you guys ever had the thought that maybe it just might be pirating? Think about it. People are starting to use the interent a lot more now and why waste 20 minutes of your time to go down and buy a $15 CD when you can get it in 3 minutes for free in your computer? That's just a thought.
lol oh yeah bootlegging music just started this year ::)
lmao
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I think you dont have to be a genius to know that the only reason Buck,Banks and Game too (and Yayo too) sold becuase of 50 Cents hype. Just like none of the Nsync sold as much as Justin Timberlake, or DTP members as much as Ludacros or DPG as much as Snoop....
The fact is Game shouldnt even talk about GUnit "flops". When he has a label when 3 artist go 1x plat and more, one does 700.000, a group album going 2x plat, a soundtrack going 2x times plat and 2 artists (Mobb Deep and Banks) probably going gold after some time ONLY THEN can he be such a cocky idiot like now.
Good point as even after he releases this next album unless his label artists are amazing then he aint gonna be seein his artists sell. Games been too worried to release any bws stuff because he knows its likely none of it would go plat.
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Have you guys ever had the thought that maybe it just might be pirating? Think about it. People are starting to use the interent a lot more now and why waste 20 minutes of your time to go down and buy a $15 CD when you can get it in 3 minutes for free in your computer? That's just a thought.
lol oh yeah bootlegging music just started this year ::)
No of course not, but if you look at trends, people have been buying less and less each year. This hasn't been overnight, it's been gradual over the past 5 years or so.
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Have you guys ever had the thought that maybe it just might be pirating? Think about it. People are starting to use the interent a lot more now and why waste 20 minutes of your time to go down and buy a $15 CD when you can get it in 3 minutes for free in your computer? That's just a thought.
lol oh yeah bootlegging music just started this year ::)
No of course not, but if you look at trends, people have been buying less and less each year. This hasn't been overnight, it's been gradual over the past 5 years or so.
The growth of MP3 players means the mainstream public don't want to buy the original CD anymore; with faster broadband connections more widespread, it takes 10 minutes to get a fully zipped album with cover art and tracklists ready to transfer directly to your iPod. CDs are an afterthought.
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I think you dont have to be a genius to know that the only reason Buck,Banks and Game too (and Yayo too) sold becuase of 50 Cents hype. Just like none of the Nsync sold as much as Justin Timberlake, or DTP members as much as Ludacros or DPG as much as Snoop....
The fact is Game shouldnt even talk about GUnit "flops". When he has a label when 3 artist go 1x plat and more, one does 700.000, a group album going 2x plat, a soundtrack going 2x times plat and 2 artists (Mobb Deep and Banks) probably going gold after some time ONLY THEN can he be such a cocky idiot like now.
thats true,
the subject matter of g unit is fairly limited.
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I think Game will feel the pinch too...............He won't flop, but he won't sell as much as his first album. I do think this album will be better 'cause I didn't like the last one that much.
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The constant push backs with albums don't help sales, they release a video and then the album gets pushed back and all the buzz is lost. Plus iTunes and album leaks don't help.
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game album aint gonna sell as much as everybody thinks...not that its not good or somethin like that, but sales are just down right now and he shud be aware of that before makin bold statements like yo im gonna sell platinum first week, that aint gonna happen, remember my words til after 14 november