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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Lil Jay on October 24, 2006, 03:25:56 PM
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39 XZIBIT KOCH 20,286
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here's the full list for this week:
LW TW artist / album label power index % change
-- 1 DIDDY BAD BOY/ATLANTIC/ATL G 176,332 --
PRESS PLAY
2 2 EVANESCENCE WIND-UP 107,435 -33%
THE OPEN DOOR
-- 3 JOJO BG/UNIVERSAL MOTOWN 105,770 --
THE HIGH ROAD
7 4 JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE JIVE/ZLG 95,697 +6%
FUTURE SEX/LOVE SOUNDS
-- 5 DIERKS BENTLEY CAPITOL NASHVILLE 81,298 --
LONG TRIP ALONE
1 6 ROD STEWART J RECORDS/RMG 76,666 -58%
STILL THE SAME: THE GREAT ROCK..
9 7 HINDER UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 76,435 0%
EXTREME BEHAVIOR
-- 8 RUBEN STUDDARD J RECORDS/RMG 69,769 --
THE RETURN
5 9 TONY BENNETT RPM RECORDS/COLUMBIA 66,496 -39%
DUETS: AN AMERICAN CLASSIC
6 10 THE KILLERS ISLAND/IDJMG 61,635 -41%
SAM'S TOWN
8 11 GEORGE STRAIT MCA NASHVILLE 58,835 -33%
IT JUST COMES NATURAL
10 12 LUDACRIS DEF JAM SOUTH/IDJMG 52,829 -29%
RELEASE THERAPY
4 13 JIMMY BUFFETT MAILBOAT/SBMG NASHVILLE 51,888 -57%
TAKE THE WEATHER WITH YOU
13 14 NICKELBACK ROADRUNNER/IDJMG 50,777 -5%
ALL THE RIGHT REASONS
11 15 JOHN MAYER AWARE/COLUMBIA/CRG 50,110 -23%
CONTINUUM
3 16 LLOYD BANKS G UNIT/INTERSCOPE 48,534 -68%
ROTTEN APPLE
-- 17 VINCE GILL MCA NASHVILLE 40,052 --
THESE DAYS
16 18 THE FRAY EPIC 38,479 -19%
HOW TO SAVE A LIFE
14 19 ALAN JACKSON SBMG NASHVILLE/ARISTA 36,138 -27%
LIKE RED ON A ROSE
17 20 FERGIE A&M/INTERSCOPE 34,891 -21%
THE DUTCHESS
22 21 RASCAL FLATTS LYRIC STREET 33,870 -7%
ME AND MY GANG
24 22 CARRIE UNDERWOOD ARISTA/RMG 33,166 +8%
SOME HEARTS
21 23 BEYONCE COLUMBIA/CRG 32,620 -13%
B'DAY
18 24 JANET JACKSON VIRGIN 29,348 -27%
20 Y.O.
20 25 BOB SEGER CAPITOL 28,449 -25%
FACE THE PROMISE
25 26 CHEETAH GIRLS 2 WALT DISNEY RECORDS 27,954 -6%
SOUNDTRACK
12 27 HEARTLAND LOFTON CREEK 27,675 -54%
I LOVED HER FIRST
26 28 STING DEUTSCHE GRAMMOPHON 27,345 -5%
SONGS FROM THE LABYRINTH
-- 29 FRANKIE J COLUMBIA/CRG 26,547 --
PRICELESS
-- 30 HI-TEK BABYGRANDE RECORDS 26,298 --
HI-TEKNOLOGY VOL.2
34 31 CHRISTINA AGUILERA RCA/RMG 23,843 0%
BACK TO BASICS
31 32 BOB DYLAN COLUMBIA/CRG 23,796 -9%
MODERN TIMES
-- 33 AEROSMITH SLG/LEGACY/COLUMBIA 23,397 --
DEVIL'S GOT A NEW DISGUISE:...
32 34 DANITY KANE BAD BOY/ATLANTIC/ATL G 23,123 -8%
DANITY KANE
28 35 SNOW PATROL A&M/INTERSCOPE 23,059 -15%
EYES OPEN
33 36 JOSH TURNER MCA NASHVILLE 22,093 -12%
YOUR MAN
30 37 WEIRD AL YANKOVIC VOLCANO/ZOMBA 21,655 -19%
STRAIGHT OUT OF LYNWOOD
19 38 BECK GEFFEN 20,899 -46%
THE INFORMATION
-- 39 XZIBIT KOCH 20,286 --
FULL CIRCLE
29 40 RICK ROSS DEF JAM/IDJMG 19,313 -28%
PORT OF MIAMI
-- 41 LONESTAR SBMG NASHVILLE/BNA 18,401 --
MOUNTAINS
27 42 MONICA J RECORDS/RMG 17,896 -35%
THE TAKING OF ME
46 43 LIONEL RICHIE ISLAND/IDJMG 17,705 +4%
COMING HOME
37 44 DIANA KRALL VERVE 17,349 -21%
FROM THIS MOMENT ON
41 45 NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC V22 SONY LABEL GROUP 16,799 -8%
VARIOUS
39 46 LUPE FIASCO ATLANTIC/ATL G 16,537 -19%
LUPE FIASCO'S FOOD & LIQUOR
43 47 PUSSYCAT DOLLS A&M/INTERSCOPE 16,460 -8%
PCD
-- 48 SARAH MCLACHLAN ARISTA/RMG 15,520 --
WINTERSONG
35 49 CORINNE BAILEY RAE CAPITOL 15,448 -35%
CORINNE BAILEY RAE
40 50 BLUE OCTOBER UNIVERSAL MOTOWN 15,357 -16%
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Oh boy, now the haters are going to come in and say it's over for X. For today standards and the fact he is on Koch, that is not bad. Not great either but not bad.
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:rubeyes:
To say it's not bad is an understatement, I knew that the numbers would be low but that low is laughable. :grumpy:
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I don't know anymore what is good and bad. Really not alot of promotion for the album other than a Letterman appearance and what you see on the internet.
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damn thats bad, even hi-tek did better than him, and he's coming out real independently. I mean really what do you expect though, Concentrate isn't really making any noise as a single.
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:rubeyes:
To say it's not bad is an understatement, I knew that the numbers would be low but that low is laughable. :grumpy:
Yeah man, that's hella low. I dont get it, I mean the promo wasnt all that, but he's on tour, he has a video on rotation, performed on shows like Jimmy Kimmel and Letterman but it still aint doing shit. Koch is a major indie, so he should be able to sell at least 80K
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That's 160,000$ straight down his pockets, prolly more than most Interscope rappers get by going triple platinum lol.
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that concentrate song ain't goin home at all. My friend told me the other day that he really thought the album was gonna be like that song so he didn't even look for it. He said that song was the worse song he has ever heard. haha
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on a side note, props to hi tek for doing sum incredible #'s on babygrande.........
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The music industry is in BAD shape right now. Major labels are trimming the fat and only rollin with what is hot. So when that dies off they start all over again. I am a little surprised by the numbers for X and alot of other artists for that matter.
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I don't know anymore what is good and bad. Really not alot of promotion for the album other than a Letterman appearance and what you see on the internet.
The internet kills music
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You can't blame it on Koch. Since it's a Major Independent the artist NEEDS runs the show (for the most part). Xzibit just chose a bad first single.
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I don't know anymore what is good and bad. Really not alot of promotion for the album other than a Letterman appearance and what you see on the internet.
The internet kills music
True that. But outlets like Dubcnn, allhiphop, and others do help.
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Damn. Y'all know I love X, I ain't no hater, but I am a little suprised by the #s...They are very low. Isn't that lower then what Daz did? I hope that X don't be on some "Fuck the industry, I ain't making no more music" and shit. Aww well, hot album. I honestly thought 30,000 would be his minimum. Between that & 50,000. Whoever said 80,000, that would of been a complete shock 2 me. What bothers me is even when X makes a bitch track that he thinks will catch on, it don't. Yet, Jibbs will prolly sell thru the roof.
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So even Pimp my Ride didn't help him boost his sell.
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Damn....he did about 80,000 last time, and that wasn't too bad to me. But ah, 20,000....but what can you expect, I would have had NO IDEA it came out if I didn't visit this site every day.
Concentrate caught some ears...but most people didn't like it much. I know I don't feel it much, and I usually like most Rick Rock tracks.
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bad sales but I'm not surprised. X should of picked a different single, and like Tistic said if it wasnt for this site I wouldnt even of known the album was getting released so it's not to surprising that the numbers are low, but I admit I am surprised a lil just cause 20,000 is real low for X.
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So, what should be the next single? :D
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So, what should be the next single? :D
lol. To be honest I'd be suprised if he does release another 1. Look at some west coast cd's that have flopped, most didn't have a 2nd single. Some that come 2 mind @ the moment Daz's So So Gangsta, Knoc's Way I Am, Too $hort's Blow the Whistle, Mack 10's Hustla Handbook.
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got damn, did the album only sell in L.A.?
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If you fuck wit the industry, you'd know that KOCH has been fuckin up their shippings lately, they don't put enough emphasis on 1st week sales anymore for some reason....they don't get product to some stores on time, and more importantly they tend not to ship enough. They push for longetivity, but I don't even know if that's working 4 their artists. The more artists they sign, the slower their push gets. Xzibit is doing alot of lil club and car shows, his promo isn't too bad, he in the streets pushing, but why he would choose such a poor single is beyond me.
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I think MAYBE this can be saved with a 2nd & 3rd single. Release Family Values next, and maybe like Thank You.
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Here is all the promotion for the album....
Interview on Allhiphop.com
David Letterman and Jimmy Kimmel
He performed at Knotts Scary Farm last wednesday for Scion Night. That however was not reported anywhere and he was nowhere on the lineup. He just showed up and performed a handful of songs.
20k is not great but he is still getting paid. I mean you people swear that he is not making more then most of us make in a year on 20k sold. WHO CARES THO!! Dont let sales dictate if its good or bad for you.
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Xzibit said it best himself back in 2004 on "Criminal Set" on "Weapons of Mass Destruction":
But lately I've been feelin like Will Smith
Why bother with rap when I can get 20 mill' on a flick?
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Damn that sucks. For a veteran of the rap game, the type of label Koch is, X's celebrity status, there is no way you can say this ain't a disapointment. O well, at least he's getting is money I guess. Like Rod said Koch usually gears towards 2 week and future sales, but I don't think he has a chance of selling a "good" amount of records.
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Xzibit said it best himself back in 2004 on "Criminal Set" on "Weapons of Mass Destruction":
But lately I've been feelin like Will Smith
Why bother with rap when I can get 20 mill' on a flick?
Lol, Yeah when I seen 20K I thought about that line. 20K got me thinking Full Circle is X's Last LP :(
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Just the fact he's on KOCH is funny to me. But I was at a couple of functions he was at in the past month and he looked like he just gettin drunk and havin a ball with his folks, he got money, I don't think that's even an issue anymore when it comes to puttin out albums. He prolly just taking a break from TV and having some fun, plus the folks at KOCH is easy to get along with from what I've heard, not too much label drama. Alot of artistic freedom.. they just gotta organize their bidness a bit more.
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Lol, Yeah when I seen 20K I thought about that line. 20K got me thinking Full Circle is X's Last LP :(
As long as he's still does the occasional rap, why shouldn't this be his last album? He's already had a crazy career and many classic songs. If he wants to quit while he's still ahead that good for him. Why should he continue until he fades into obscurity like other cats (eg Warren G).
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That's 160,000$ straight down his pockets, prolly more than most Interscope rappers get by going triple platinum lol.
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Here is all the promotion for the album....
Interview on Allhiphop.com
David Letterman and Jimmy Kimmel
He performed at Knotts Scary Farm last wednesday for Scion Night. That however was not reported anywhere and he was nowhere on the lineup. He just showed up and performed a handful of songs.
20k is not great but he is still getting paid. I mean you people swear that he is not making more then most of us make in a year on 20k sold. WHO CARES THO!! Dont let sales dictate if its good or bad for you.
It's not really about the money they get or if it dictates how good or bad somethin is for us....but with most of us being fans of these artists, we are hoping to see them sell as much as possible, mainly because sales have a MAJOR effect on what happens in the future. When artists sell, it opens the gate for other artists, and since most of us are rooting for the west coast to be a major factor, we are hoping that every major artist to come out will sell a lot more than a few thousand.
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Lol, Yeah when I seen 20K I thought about that line. 20K got me thinking Full Circle is X's Last LP :(
As long as he's still does the occasional rap, why shouldn't this be his last album? He's already had a crazy career and many classic songs. If he wants to quit while he's still ahead that good for him. Why should he continue until he fades into obscurity like other cats (eg Warren G).
Well to most fans, You really don't wanna see 1 of your fav. rappers retire. Yes, he's had a crazy career, but lol as a fan I want new music every 2/3 years from him. And he isn't showing signs of losing his skills, Full Circle is pretty dope. And I have to disagree with the Warren G comment. I think "In The Mid-Nite Hour" was a pretty dope album. Knoc-Turn'Al is my fav rapper, and his latest LP Return Of The Hustler was bad. But I'll take 10 more of those, then none at all. Fuck what all the haters say/would say about him. That's just me.
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Lol, Yeah when I seen 20K I thought about that line. 20K got me thinking Full Circle is X's Last LP :(
As long as he's still does the occasional rap, why shouldn't this be his last album? He's already had a crazy career and many classic songs. If he wants to quit while he's still ahead that good for him. Why should he continue until he fades into obscurity like other cats (eg Warren G).
Well to most fans, You really don't wanna see 1 of your fav. rappers retire. Yes, he's had a crazy career, but lol as a fan I want new music every 2/3 years from him. And he isn't showing signs of losing his skills, Full Circle is pretty dope. And I have to disagree with the Warren G comment. I think "In The Mid-Nite Hour" was a pretty dope album. Knoc-Turn'Al is my fav rapper, and his latest LP Return Of The Hustler was bad. But I'll take 10 more of those, then none at all. Fuck what all the haters say/would say about him. That's just me.
When I said "fades into obscurity" I didn't been talent wise. I ment fading hip hop fans' eyes. He use to be one of the hottests stars in rap (99-00 era) then he went to respected rapper. What I'm worried about is that he'd continue until no one cares about him. I used Warren G as an example because he went from multi-platinum selling rapper to nobody even knowing that In the Mid-Nite Hour dropped (except for hardcore West Coast rap fans). Don't want that happening to Xzibit.
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Lol, Yeah when I seen 20K I thought about that line. 20K got me thinking Full Circle is X's Last LP :(
As long as he's still does the occasional rap, why shouldn't this be his last album? He's already had a crazy career and many classic songs. If he wants to quit while he's still ahead that good for him. Why should he continue until he fades into obscurity like other cats (eg Warren G).
Well to most fans, You really don't wanna see 1 of your fav. rappers retire. Yes, he's had a crazy career, but lol as a fan I want new music every 2/3 years from him. And he isn't showing signs of losing his skills, Full Circle is pretty dope. And I have to disagree with the Warren G comment. I think "In The Mid-Nite Hour" was a pretty dope album. Knoc-Turn'Al is my fav rapper, and his latest LP Return Of The Hustler was bad. But I'll take 10 more of those, then none at all. Fuck what all the haters say/would say about him. That's just me.
When I said "fades into obscurity" I didn't been talent wise. I ment fading hip hop fans' eyes. He use to be one of the hottests stars in rap (99-00 era) then he went to respected rapper. What I'm worried about is that he'd continue until no one cares about him. I used Warren G as an example because he went from multi-platinum selling rapper to nobody even knowing that In the Mid-Nite Hour dropped (except for hardcore West Coast rap fans). Don't want that happening to Xzibit.
Iight, my bad. I totally agree with you thier, Commercially Warren G was a BIG disapointment after his 1st LP. What did "Look Over Your Shoulder" do #'s wise? I know after that, I Want It All went gold, Return of the Regulator & In The Mid-Nite Hour flopped.
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Not suprised by the numbers...I knew he wasn't going to sell that much anyway.....This album is pretty bad and has zero replay value.... A few songs are alright, but nothing really stands out on the album...The first single is garbage and doesn't really fit X's style...WOMD was 1000x better then this...Not even Quik could save this album from being a coaster...With X doing HOB tours, I would have expected him to move at least 50k first week, but again not surprised he moved what he did....I know X can put out a much better effort then this....This is almost as bad as MVM, in fact it is worse....
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Not suprised by the numbers...I knew he wasn't going to sell that much anyway.....This album is pretty bad and has zero replay value.... A few songs are alright, but nothing really stands out on the album...The first single is garbage and doesn't really fit X's style...WOMD was 1000x better then this...Not even Quik could save this album from being a coaster...With X doing HOB tours, I would have expected him to move at least 50k first week, but again not surprised he moved what he did....I know X can put out a much better effort then this....This is almost as bad as MVM, in fact it is worse....
I think this album has ok replay value. I'm still listening to it. I think that all 3 Jelly Roll tracks are dope, Poppin' Off, Thank You, Say It To My Face. The only tracks I really dis-like are "The Whole World" & "Rampart Division". I also thought MVM was dope 2. Symphony In X Major, Multiply, Break Yourself, Heart Of Man, Harder, My Name are dope. And then tracks like Choke Me, Spank Me (Pull My Hair) & Losin' Your Mind were ok. I thought the album got pretty weak at the end.
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wow daz sold more!.............I honestly think pimp my ride hurts him rap wise. He's a household name now but people just hink of him as that more of a joke.
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that concentrate song ain't goin home at all. My friend told me the other day that he really thought the album was gonna be like that song so he didn't even look for it. He said that song was the worse song he has ever heard. haha
I heard it on MTV and switched it straight off, that shit hurt my ears.. and im usually an X fan lol
wow daz sold more!.............I honestly think pimp my ride hurts him rap wise. He's a household name now but people just hink of him as that more of a joke.
People see the pimp my ride side of Xzibit and like it i think, but when hes doing songs like concentrate people just tune out because thats not what theyre used to from him in my opinion.
as for the sales :grumpy:
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I'm not surprised at all. Concentrate was FUCKING HORRIBLE. Like that shit was so wack I hope I never hear it again. So if I'm an average joe and I see that bullshit of course I'm not copping the album.
And by the way the internet isn't killing the music industry. Clueless executives, wack ass music, next to ZERO originality all hurt much worse.
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Wow, why all these L.A rappers keep floppin like that? 8)
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wow daz sold more!.............I honestly think pimp my ride hurts him rap wise. He's a household name now but people just hink of him as that more of a joke.
Damn...I don't know if I'd say it makes people think of him as a joke, but they don't take him nearly as serious as a rapper after seein him on there. But Xzibit has had TOO MANY changes of character throughout his career...and I think that has hurt him more than anything else, because no one is sure of what his identity really is. And he does some very stupid things when he's coked out.
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wow daz sold more!.............I honestly think pimp my ride hurts him rap wise. He's a household name now but people just hink of him as that more of a joke.
Damn...I don't know if I'd say it makes people think of him as a joke, but they don't take him nearly as serious as a rapper after seein him on there. But Xzibit has had TOO MANY changes of character throughout his career...and I think that has hurt him more than anything else, because no one is sure of what his identity really is. And he does some very stupid things when he's coked out.
That's the most interseting thing I've read in this post. What type of shit he get himself into? I though X was fucking with green, not that white.
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Wow, why all these L.A rappers keep floppin like that? 8)
Wow, why did Big Rich do about 1,128 his 1st week on Koch. Xzibit's first week sales still outsold every Bay record this year except for 40 & $hort.
LA>>>>Bay
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I expect he will do better the second week, with people having a whole week ahead of time to see it's available. And plus the people that did buy it this week will give feedback that it's not an album full of "Concentrate".
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i think alot of magazines are giving this poor reviews. Rolling Stone definitley does, I dunno bout The Source or XXl though.
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bad sales but I'm not surprised. X should of picked a different single, and like Tistic said if it wasnt for this site I wouldnt even of known the album was getting released so it's not to surprising that the numbers are low, but I admit I am surprised a lil just cause 20,000 is real low for X.
What's fuked up is that I LIVE in Cali and I didn't even realize his album came out last week until one of my boys said something about it.
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39 XZIBIT KOCH 20,286
Actually Full Circle debuted at 50 with sold 17,418.
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shitty numbers. surprised its done as bad as this, i thought hella more ppl would be checkin for xzibit
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y'all bitchin about some numbers, its about the music and about the quality of the album itself.....
cuz if i follow the way y'all thinking u wud say, to name one, mike jones' album is better then full circle cuz it sold more
and like someone already said b4 me, i bet more then half the ppl complainin bout his albumsales didnt even took the time to buy his cd and ripped it straight from the net.... ::)
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y'all bitchin about some numbers, its about the music and about the quality of the album itself.....
cuz if i follow the way y'all thinking u wud say, to name one, mike jones' album is better then full circle cuz it sold more
and like someone already said b4 me, i bet more then half the ppl complainin bout his albumsales didnt even took the time to buy his cd and ripped it straight from the net.... ::)
The reason why I care about his sales is because I like his music. Therefore I want him to be successful.
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damn, those are low numbers indeed.
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And these numbers ain't even official! Here's the Soundscan numbers..
#50 XZIBIT FULL CIRCLE 16,659 999 375 17,418
^^That boy X to the Z flopped harder than Bisquick
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Wow, why all these L.A rappers keep floppin like that? 8)
Xzibit's first week sales still outsold every Bay record this year except for 40 & $hort.
LA>>>>Bay
Duh! No one else dropped after short yet!.. You need to be talking about why ain't nobody doin shit in your home town...
Bay >>>> L.A >>>>> Philly
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What kills me is before a album comes out, people hype it, when it leaks, people are usually still high on it and say they will buy it. Once these soundscan numbers come out and they are low, people change their mind on the same album they were bumping the week before. It's like peer pressure or mind control not to like the album because "only 40,000 people copped it this week". If ya like the album, cool, bump it. If not leave it on the shelf or don't click the link.
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I still didn't get a chance to buy the fuckin' album.
When my money grows its legs back and magically reappears I'm goin' to SUPPORT X and buy the album. I still didn't even get to hear it...Is it really that bad??
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I still didn't get a chance to buy the fuckin' album.
When my money grows its legs back and magically reappears I'm goin' to SUPPORT X and buy the album. I still didn't even get to hear it...Is it really that bad??
lol. I think it's a pretty strong album.
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I still didn't get a chance to buy the fuckin' album.
When my money grows its legs back and magically reappears I'm goin' to SUPPORT X and buy the album. I still didn't even get to hear it...Is it really that bad??
lol. I think it's a pretty strong album.
Good...thats whats up.
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Wow, why all these L.A rappers keep floppin like that? 8)
Xzibit's first week sales still outsold every Bay record this year except for 40 & $hort.
LA>>>>Bay
Duh! No one else dropped after short yet!.. You need to be talking about why ain't nobody doin shit in your home town...
Bay >>>> L.A >>>>> Philly
Big Rich did, so right away you should edit your first sentence. you bay guys hyped it up like he was really gonna move units. 1,128 in week 1 HAHAHA! Federation wont sell neither were the Pack.
Plus if your gonna diss me fine, but get your facts straight, I'm from Jersey not Philly. Just click on my name, or are you to dumb to do so?
However Philly=Cassidy Jersey=Joe Buddens. They might not be releasing anything lately, but when they do, they put the entire bay to shame.
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Certainly not great numbers, but considering the #1 album debuted with only 176k+ it's not that bad. Especially since Diddy has insane amounts of money to spend on promotion.
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"Concentrate" is the worst Xzibit track of all time
Rick Rock musta ran out of ideas
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DISGHUSTING FLOP
Cali Iz Active?
those numbers are VERY pathetic
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Xzibit said it best himself back in 2004 on "Criminal Set" on "Weapons of Mass Destruction":
But lately I've been feelin like Will Smith
Why bother with rap when I can get 20 mill' on a flick?
LOL @ that, X aint seeing no where NEAR 20 mill a flick, at best he maybe making a cool mill
the TOP A-list actors be making 20mil a flick not another rapper turned actor ::)
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if X gets $5 or more per CD then thats an easy million....i aint no math matician but thats pretty damn good if ya ask me.
btw, why do the numbers matter so much?
if youre gonna support then support, why talk about low numbers....that is just gonna push people away from buying it.imo.
instead of making topics about how low and pathetic the numbers are, make topics about why people should buy this album. like everyone said, the industry is in a bad place right now, and we need to support indy rappers, especially WEST COAST indy rappers.
just my two cents.