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Title: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: WC Iz Active on November 03, 2006, 10:46:46 PM
I have had ps2 for 6 years and have loved it and I know ps3 is coming out and I didnt really care that much and figured I could wait a while to get it but that has all changed as of now.  Nba2k7 is my fav video game I just got it for ps2 but after watching videos for this game for PS3 I couldnt believe what I was seeing.  It was unreal, the crowd was so realistic it was scary, it honestly looked like a real game I couldnt believe how amazing it looked.  So I am now a believer in the sense that it is worth it to get the system based on how amazing the gameplay, AI, and graphics will be, however I am worried about the longevity of the system.    I guess this is my question, do you see the ps3 fading out in a couple of years like Dreamcast did or do you see it lasting a decade plus with tons if new games coming out all the time like ps2? Thanks guys.
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: Trauma-san on November 04, 2006, 05:43:07 AM
Personally, Honestly, I don't see it fazing out like the dreamcast.  I also don't see it being as successful as the PS2.  The games will still come, though, I'd say it'll have as much market penetration as the Xbox did last time around.  In purchasing one, if the price tag doesn't scare you, I would only be intimidated by Sony's history of releasing flawed systems early on.  The ps1 was flawed continuously; the ps2 wouldn't play some games depending on which system you got and then the lasers would die on them.  The psp had dead spots in the screen of all the early systems; I imagine from past performance of *EVERY* console they've released that the opening day ps3's will have issues with them.  Overheating has already been noticed and documented at the Tokyo Game Show with some attendees claiming half the machines were continuously malfunctioning.

So, for me, I would not buy one because of the price, and because I don't think the early machines will be solid.  I do believe there will be plenty of good games for the system and that it will be around for a very long time, though.  So if you dont' object to the price tag, you only have to worry about whether the machine will be functionally as they say it will be out of the box. 
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: Technodramon on November 04, 2006, 06:10:39 AM
Personally, Honestly, I don't see it fazing out like the dreamcast.  I also don't see it being as successful as the PS2.  The games will still come, though, I'd say it'll have as much market penetration as the Xbox did last time around.  In purchasing one, if the price tag doesn't scare you, I would only be intimidated by Sony's history of releasing flawed systems early on.  The ps1 was flawed continuously; the ps2 wouldn't play some games depending on which system you got and then the lasers would die on them.  The psp had dead spots in the screen of all the early systems; I imagine from past performance of *EVERY* console they've released that the opening day ps3's will have issues with them.  Overheating has already been noticed and documented at the Tokyo Game Show with some attendees claiming half the machines were continuously malfunctioning.

So, for me, I would not buy one because of the price, and because I don't think the early machines will be solid.  I do believe there will be plenty of good games for the system and that it will be around for a very long time, though.  So if you dont' object to the price tag, you only have to worry about whether the machine will be functionally as they say it will be out of the box. 

Every console has some problem with the first shipments, look at 360.

Wait til March for your PS3, or you can wait in line cop one and sell it on eBay.
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: I Am The Anton on November 04, 2006, 02:09:18 PM
I have had ps2 for 6 years and have loved it and I know ps3 is coming out and I didnt really care that much and figured I could wait a while to get it but that has all changed as of now.  Nba2k7 is my fav video game I just got it for ps2 but after watching videos for this game for PS3 I couldnt believe what I was seeing.  It was unreal, the crowd was so realistic it was scary, it honestly looked like a real game I couldnt believe how amazing it looked.  So I am now a believer in the sense that it is worth it to get the system based on how amazing the gameplay, AI, and graphics will be, however I am worried about the longevity of the system.    I guess this is my question, do you see the ps3 fading out in a couple of years like Dreamcast did or do you see it lasting a decade plus with tons if new games coming out all the time like ps2? Thanks guys.

The 360 version of nba2k7 has the same graphics and is already out...
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: WC Iz Active on November 04, 2006, 04:29:13 PM
^^I thought the ps3 was supposed to have better graphics then the 360 ???
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: I Am The Anton on November 04, 2006, 04:38:28 PM
^^I thought the ps3 was supposed to have better graphics then the 360 ???

Not really. Pretty much the exact same thing.
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: WC Iz Active on November 04, 2006, 04:40:22 PM
^^I thought the ps3 was supposed to have better graphics then the 360 ???

Not really. Pretty much the exact same thing.

oh wow I didnt know that.  I will still choose the ps3 cause I want to stick w/ Playstation but I didnt know the graphics were equal w/ each other.  I didnt even think about the fact that alot of the systems have flaws when they first get released, so I guess the smartest thing would be wait until March or April to get the PS3.
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: I Am The Anton on November 04, 2006, 04:53:51 PM
^^I thought the ps3 was supposed to have better graphics then the 360 ???

Not really. Pretty much the exact same thing.

oh wow I didnt know that.  I will still choose the ps3 cause I want to stick w/ Playstation but I didnt know the graphics were equal w/ each other.  I didnt even think about the fact that alot of the systems have flaws when they first get released, so I guess the smartest thing would be wait until March or April to get the PS3.

Oh well, i'd read up on the 360 and games coming out for it before you pay $600 for a ps3. 360 has probably the best lineups of games coming out and already has a lot of great games out. You could get a 360 and a wii for the same price as a ps3.
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: Nutty on November 04, 2006, 05:01:32 PM
Personally, Honestly, I don't see it fazing out like the dreamcast.  I also don't see it being as successful as the PS2.  The games will still come, though, I'd say it'll have as much market penetration as the Xbox did last time around.  In purchasing one, if the price tag doesn't scare you, I would only be intimidated by Sony's history of releasing flawed systems early on.  The ps1 was flawed continuously; the ps2 wouldn't play some games depending on which system you got and then the lasers would die on them.  The psp had dead spots in the screen of all the early systems; I imagine from past performance of *EVERY* console they've released that the opening day ps3's will have issues with them.  Overheating has already been noticed and documented at the Tokyo Game Show with some attendees claiming half the machines were continuously malfunctioning.

So, for me, I would not buy one because of the price, and because I don't think the early machines will be solid.  I do believe there will be plenty of good games for the system and that it will be around for a very long time, though.  So if you dont' object to the price tag, you only have to worry about whether the machine will be functionally as they say it will be out of the box. 

I dun see PS3 doing PS2 numbers either. I'm hoping they come up w/ something different for their next system.
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: Trauma-san on November 04, 2006, 09:11:49 PM


Every console has some problem with the first shipments, look at 360.



Consoles that didn't have problems with the first shipments.

1. Nintendo Gamecube.
2. Nintendo 64.
3. Super NES
4. NES
5. Gameboy
6. Gameboy Pocket
7. Gameboy Color
8. Gameboy Advance
9. Gameboy Advance SP
10. Nintendo DS Lite (I think the original ds had some systems with dead spots like the psp)
11. Sega Genesis
12. Sega Dreamcast
13. Sega Saturn
14. TurboGraffix 16
15. Neo Geo

Many, Many, Many consoles had no problems at launch.  This seems to be something specific to sony and microsoft. 
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: I Am The Anton on November 04, 2006, 09:54:24 PM


Every console has some problem with the first shipments, look at 360.



Consoles that didn't have problems with the first shipments.

1. Nintendo Gamecube.
2. Nintendo 64.
3. Super NES
4. NES
5. Gameboy
6. Gameboy Pocket
7. Gameboy Color
8. Gameboy Advance
9. Gameboy Advance SP
10. Nintendo DS Lite (I think the original ds had some systems with dead spots like the psp)
11. Sega Genesis
12. Sega Dreamcast
13. Sega Saturn
14. TurboGraffix 16
15. Neo Geo

Many, Many, Many consoles had no problems at launch.  This seems to be something specific to sony and microsoft. 

I don't really think you can count systems that were cartridge based. There were really no moving parts in those systems and they will pretty much last forever if yo utake care of them. Now the consoles themselves are more complex with a lot more moving parts inside, which means there are more things that can go wrong, and it will eventually wear out (thats guraranteed).

That said, Sega deserves a lot of praise for the Dreamcast for so many reasons (one being how well it was built) ive had my dreamcast for about 5-6 years now and it still works perfectly. Probably my favorite system ever.
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: Bomb-A® on November 04, 2006, 10:17:20 PM
^^I thought the ps3 was supposed to have better graphics then the 360 ???

Not really. Pretty much the exact same thing.

oh wow I didnt know that.  I will still choose the ps3 cause I want to stick w/ Playstation but I didnt know the graphics were equal w/ each other.  I didnt even think about the fact that alot of the systems have flaws when they first get released, so I guess the smartest thing would be wait until March or April to get the PS3.

i guess five years from now when eveyone has bigscreen hdtvs you'd be able to say that the PS3 has better graphics and you would appreciate the HDMI feature but as of now....no difference....u really need a 40" or more hi-res HDTV to tell the difference between the two

that's why i got me a 360 now and i'll probably buy a PS3 around next christmas or summ



peace
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: Technodramon on November 04, 2006, 10:35:03 PM
I don't really think you can count systems that were cartridge based. There were really no moving parts in those systems and they will pretty much last forever if yo utake care of them.

Word.

But we all had to blow a lot, no homo.

lol that gun was gangsta tho killing those ducks.

(http://img110.exs.cx/img110/9637/manhunt6bp.jpg)




Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: Trauma-san on November 05, 2006, 04:24:29 AM
Was gangsta? *IS* Gangsta.  LOL I still got all my stuff.

O.K., don't count the cartridge systems.  Sega and Nintendo both released systems that were laser based and didn't have a ton of them with fuck ups in the first shipment.  Like I said, it seems Microsoft and Sony are the only two that have had that problem. 
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: Noname on November 05, 2006, 04:38:39 AM
^^I thought the ps3 was supposed to have better graphics then the 360 ???

Not really. Pretty much the exact same thing.

oh wow I didnt know that.  I will still choose the ps3 cause I want to stick w/ Playstation but I didnt know the graphics were equal w/ each other.  I didnt even think about the fact that alot of the systems have flaws when they first get released, so I guess the smartest thing would be wait until March or April to get the PS3.

i guess five years from now when eveyone has bigscreen hdtvs you'd be able to say that the PS3 has better graphics and you would appreciate the HDMI feature but as of now....no difference....u really need a 40" or more hi-res HDTV to tell the difference between the two

that's why i got me a 360 now and i'll probably buy a PS3 around next christmas or summ



peace

With the new update, the 360 can also display 1080p. And the hd player also got hdmi. So their pretty much the same.
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: E. J. Rizo on November 05, 2006, 12:21:45 PM
funny when the original xbox had "better" graphics than the ps2 microsoft fan boys where all over it... thats all u would here in defense . . Xbox has better graphics...lol... even tho it was a very minor difference

now that the tables are turned... the opinions have changed... lol its just funny... ;) 8)
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: Noname on November 05, 2006, 12:45:48 PM
funny when the original xbox had "better" graphics than the ps2 microsoft fan boys where all over it... thats all u would here in defense . . Xbox has better graphics...lol... even tho it was a very minor difference

now that the tables are turned... the opinions have changed... lol its just funny... ;) 8)

Im not a xbox/sony or nintendo fanboy. But how do you know the ps3 got better graphics then the 360?
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: Digital Pimpin' on November 08, 2006, 03:14:31 AM
The 360 won't display 1080p for games - only movies.

The PS3 is more powerful on paper, but it'll take a couple of years before developers and programmers learn to utilise that power. Only then will there be a noticeable difference in graphics.
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on November 08, 2006, 04:40:34 AM
theres only one console imma be gettin, ps3 fo sho, all the hate n shit right now for it will stop once it drops, ofcourse it will always get hate from somepoeple but i know i dont give a shit about what cats gotta say dissin ps3, plus we all know once it drops, its gon be flying off shelves.........the bigger problem is about how many can sony make, not about the price n units, wii or xbox aint fuckin with it. if their was 10 million consoles of each system dropping tomorrow as if it was a launch for all three systems, i know for a fact even with the highest price, sony would have them all sold quickest....Another thing, all these reports about how much money sony is loosing on each system made n so on, why it a problem to the consumer? it only means your gettin more than your paying fo, i dunno if all this blu ray disk bullshit will blow up sometime but if it does, i know aint gon have to be coppin one cuz mine is bulit in nigga, niggas trippin about figures when really y'all should only be focused on the product.....and price ofcourse but thats a minor right now, i had ps2 since drop, was easily the best console for me, games wise n so on.......so i have no reason to go move on to another system/company.........still nobody gon be fuckin with ps3......lol

peace
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: Digital Pimpin' on November 08, 2006, 04:56:30 AM
The price thing is funny - the PS3 wiil cost £400 ($700), same as the PS2 and the PS1, shit even the Sega Mega CD cost nearly £500 back in the day.

There won't be PS3s left on the shelf on launch day because people are willing to pay that amount of money to get one; there'll be a price drop eventually (probably 12-18months after launch, when the really good games start coming out).

There's gonna be problems with the first shipments, but it's not like the machines will blow up the day after the warranty runs out.

My friend still has his PS2 from launch day (cost him £400), he's fucked around with it a hell of a lot: installed his own mod chip, hard drive, even the funky knife trick to play copied games. It's still going strong.

Anyway, although the PS3 won't have as much success as the PS2, it will still be number one this generation albeit with a smaller market share.
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: Trauma-san on November 08, 2006, 05:10:17 AM
You're missing the point.  You don't mind paying for it, but I and many others do.... so you're acting like my opinion is invalid.  I'm straight out telling you I ain't paying 600 bucks for a ps3.  That's why it's a bad platform for me. 

Your mileage may be different.... but no matter how you want to throw it, to many people, a significant number of people, the machine is too expensive and is priced out of their range.  The ps2 was still half-ass affordable (to me). 
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: Digital Pimpin' on November 08, 2006, 05:13:26 AM
I wouldn't pay 600 bucks for a PS3 either; the launch games will be shit too.

Give it a year or so, and I'll be able to pay 2/3 of the launch price with a better selection of games.

The Wii is benefitting from a low starting price (like all Nintendo consoles) plus the best launch line up for a looooong time.
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: Noname on November 08, 2006, 09:26:42 AM
The 360 won't display 1080p for games - only movies.

The PS3 is more powerful on paper, but it'll take a couple of years before developers and programmers learn to utilise that power. Only then will there be a noticeable difference in graphics.

Thats not true. With the last update you can play 1080p movies AND you can play 1080p games. But there arent any games available yet.
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: Nutty on November 08, 2006, 04:48:42 PM
Just because you can't afford it or choose not to fork so much for it dun mean it's a bad console......
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: I Am The Anton on November 08, 2006, 05:16:38 PM
Just because you can't afford it or choose not to fork so much for it dun mean it's a bad console......
True, but the lack of good games does
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: WC Iz Active on November 08, 2006, 05:28:26 PM
Thanks for all the info guys.  I have always been a playstation guy but I think I am leaning towards the 360 right now.  I dont think I would be able to utilize the ps3 to the fullest cause I dont have a HD tv.  And also the 360 is half of the price, I think I'm leaning towards XBox.
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: Trauma-san on November 08, 2006, 08:59:32 PM
Just because you can't afford it or choose not to fork so much for it dun mean it's a bad console......

Yes it does.  It's a shitty console because it's not worth the money.  No console is worth 600 bucks.  That's of course my opinion, I shouldn't have to tell you that. 
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: Noname on November 09, 2006, 10:35:54 AM
Just because you can't afford it or choose not to fork so much for it dun mean it's a bad console......

Yes it does.  It's a shitty console because it's not worth the money.  No console is worth 600 bucks.  That's of course my opinion, I shouldn't have to tell you that. 

lol you already saying its a bad console before its even out. Maybe its not worth 600 dollars to you, but their are a couple of million other people who disagree. Like you said its your opinion. And most likely the ps3 will outsell the Wii. So there are enough willing to pay 600 dollars.
Title: Re: I'm still nervous about ps3
Post by: Nutty on November 09, 2006, 04:47:06 PM
The thought of owning all 3 systems never crossed my mind before, but I think I may well get all 3......

I'm leaning towards Gears Of War w/ the 360...