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Jay-Z's return revealed
11/09/2006 3:00 PM, Yahoo! Music
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Jay-Z makes his long-awaited return to the world of rap later this month and this week Yahoo! Music was one of a select few to hear Kingdom Come.
Below we present a blow-by-blow account of Kingdom Come, which features guest appearances and production from Chris Martin, Kanye West, Usher, Dr. Dre, and Beyonce, among many others.
"Prelude" (produced by Ghettobot)
Intro'd by Pain In Da Ass, known for vocal skits on earlier Jay-Z records, this is a fine opening salvo with Hova's wordplay customarily quick--he runs a lovely set of puns around the figure "38" referencing his next birthday, gun, and rims. Perfect.
"Oh My God" (produced by Just Blaze)
Apparently delivered just hours before a deadline seemingly imposed by Jay's target of releasing on the 10th anniversary of Reasonable Doubt, rather than sounding rushed, it comes across as incredibly urgent as horns and screaming soul samples are bent to the will of the sampler for pure sonic bravado.
"Kingdom Come" (produced by Just Blaze)
The title track started life as a hastily compiled beat for Just Blaze's MySpace page, chopping up the unlikely choice of Rick James's "Super Freak"--generally considered cursed after forming the foundation of MC Hammer's "U Can't Touch This." Apparently ?uestlove of the Roots heard it and insisted Jay-Z had to rhyme on it for his comeback.
"Show Me What You Got" (produced by Just Blaze)
The single. There's been some grumbling in some quarters but we like it.
"Lost One" feat Chrissette Michelle (produced by Dr. Dre)
Pretty good track and an obvious single. Marsha from Floetry was originally slated to do the vocal, but Def Jam marketing requirements became somewhat more pressing, it seems.
"Do You Want To Ride" with John Legend (produced by Kanye West)
Really disappointing croon-fest (other than the album, when was the last time Kanye delivered a winner?) The track is set up as a letter to a childhood friend in prison but, as our Def Jam friend explained: "Jay don't do letters, so he did a track."
"30 Something" (produced by Dr. Dre)
Dre on typically infectious form and Jay-Z with a cheeky glint in his eye as he tries to convince the younger generation that "30's the new 20." It'll probably be a single down the line, given its eligibility for video treatment in the style of "Girls, Girls, Girls."
"I Made It" (produced by Dr. Dre)
Another rather mawkish dedication to Moms on which Dr. Dre, amusingly, appears to be lampooning Just Blaze. Interesting to hear him playing with more organic sounds.
"Anything" with Usher & Pharrell (produced by the Neptunes)
"A strip club song," our Def Jam host explained. Or the Neptunes' audition for the next Bubba Sparxxx single. A pretty lame offering for which Usher apparently recorded his vocals in a matter of hours and faxed the track back to Jay-Z's tour bus.
"Hollywood" with Beyonce (produced by Scyience)
A new producer but it's an old sound. Plastered with vocals of enough velocity to give your ears hemorrhoids, courtesy of Beyonce. It's all about the ruins of Hollywood and its awful addictive powers. But, really, Beyonce's chorus is as close as pop music gets to a Gloria Swanson close-up.
"Trouble" (produced by Dr. Dre)
If it didn't say Dre here, you'd swear this was Timbaland, but apparently Timbaland didn't come up with anything that Jay wanted to use this time. An album highlight with a brutal drum clack and near-industrial elements.
"Dig A Hole" with Sterling Simms (produced by Swizz Beatz)
In which Jay adopts a Joe Pesci/Casino approach to his troubles with Cam'ron, featuring more bashing of gongs than Rank Screen Advertising. Does anyone really care about this Cam'ron beef? Wasn't it all because he dissed Jay-Z for wearing sandles??
"Minority Report" with Ne-Yo (produced by Dr. Dre)
Not Dre's finest moment and a ploddingly literal condemnation of the floods in New Orleans from Jay. Perhaps he should stick to boasting about his possessions.
"Beach Chair" with Chris Martin (produced by Chris Martin)
An odd one with fairly thunderous production and minor piano chords performed by Martin. He sings the chorus as well and you have the suspicion that both he and Jay-Z encouraged the engineer to turn everything up in order to drown out their embarrassment.
Kingdom Come is released by Def Jam on November 21.
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>:( i still have high hopes.
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That track with Pharell and Usher must be on another level of wackness, same for the Beyonce one, no surprise :laugh: for the rest I will make my own opinion
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cant wait to hear the Dr. Dre prod. tracks
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^^ word. I'm suprised they havn't leaked by now.
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^^^^ this is the new trend for 90% of the albums : the retail only leaks one week before the release date
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I don't care much for Jay, but I'm really surprised he didn't use a Timbo track.
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i got the feeling through that review that the person who wrote it doesn't like jay-z very much...
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this albums gonna be gaaabaage. but:
cant wait to hear the Dr. Dre prod. tracks
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sounds like Dre fell off
why the are there 5 Dre tracks on Jay's album but not BCT?
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sounds like Dre fell off
why the are there 5 Dre tracks on Jay's album but not BCT?
Dre sent Jay 25 beats like a year ago. Dre and Snoop actually worked in the studio. So the quality will most likely be on Snoops album.
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sounds like Dre fell off
why the are there 5 Dre tracks on Jay's album but not BCT?
why is everyone saying this?....its snoop's album...its jay's album ...he chose what producers were going to be on his albuma nd how many tracks would be on it....
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has this leaked yet?
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So Dre is ripping off Timbaland and Just Blaze, the two hottest producers in the game, now?
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So Dre is ripping off Timbaland and Just Blaze, the two hottest producers in the game, now?
The so-called Just Blaze rip-off is produced by DJ Khalil, not Dre like the article claims.
But "Trouble" sounds kinda Timbalandish.. except the trademark Dre bass and piano..
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So Dre is ripping off Timbaland and Just Blaze, the two hottest producers in the game, now?
He sent Jay theese beats 1 year ago, so i dont think Dre could have heard Timbo´s beats for Justins new album... Cuz the "Trouble" beat reminds me of the "My Love" beat and sound nothing like any of Timbo´s earlier work...
So if someone have bite the other one, its timbo who bite dre without even hearing the beats dre sent jay a year ago and i dont find that possible..
Maybe its just a coincident?? Maybe they just choose the same direction in their musical evolution?? Its not impossible
Btw, "Trouble" is 2007´s "In da club" and it´s not even "hip pop" its dark and angry, it will earn respect from the true heads 2.
Peace
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I think Trouble is best Dre banger on KC. It just sounds so crisp and flawless in the ride!
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IMO Trouble sucks. The piano and the scratchy noise dont sound good together..
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IMO Trouble sucks. The piano and the scratchy noise dont sound good together..
And you have listened to this song how many times? One?
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30 something is the best dre beat on the album. all dre's beats are simple loops though the production isn't switching up...not even the hook. as cool as they are, these are just throwaway beats that didn't take him long to bang out.
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IMO Trouble sucks. The piano and the scratchy noise dont sound good together..
And you have listened to this song how many times? One?
You mad doggie?
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How many Big and Pac lines did he recycle for this CD?
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So Dre is ripping off Timbaland and Just Blaze, the two hottest producers in the game, now?
He sent Jay theese beats 1 year ago, so i dont think Dre could have heard Timbo´s beats for Justins new album... Cuz the "Trouble" beat reminds me of the "My Love" beat and sound nothing like any of Timbo´s earlier work...
So if someone have bite the other one, its timbo who bite dre without even hearing the beats dre sent jay a year ago and i dont find that possible..
Maybe its just a coincident?? Maybe they just choose the same direction in their musical evolution?? Its not impossible
Btw, "Trouble" is 2007´s "In da club" and it´s not even "hip pop" its dark and angry, it will earn respect from the true heads 2.
Peace
I think people mean that the drum pattern sounds a lot more Timbo than Dre....but for this bein "In da club", naaaahhh it's nowhere near that. I think Stat Quo's "Get low" is closer, and that's still not too close.
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So Dre is ripping off Timbaland and Just Blaze, the two hottest producers in the game, now?
He sent Jay theese beats 1 year ago, so i dont think Dre could have heard Timbo´s beats for Justins new album... Cuz the "Trouble" beat reminds me of the "My Love" beat and sound nothing like any of Timbo´s earlier work...
So if someone have bite the other one, its timbo who bite dre without even hearing the beats dre sent jay a year ago and i dont find that possible..
Maybe its just a coincident?? Maybe they just choose the same direction in their musical evolution?? Its not impossible
Btw, "Trouble" is 2007´s "In da club" and it´s not even "hip pop" its dark and angry, it will earn respect from the true heads 2.
Peace
I think people mean that the drum pattern sounds a lot more Timbo than Dre....but for this bein "In da club", naaaahhh it's nowhere near that. I think Stat Quo's "Get low" is closer, and that's still not too close.
lol yeah this and "Get Low" arent even in the same league as "In Da Club"
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Leaked already. Nothin special upon first listen. "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
BANNED DONT POST ALBUM LINKS!
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shit, just saw that link is dead. But it's out there.
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How many Big and Pac lines did he recycle for this CD?
jeez..get the fuck outta here with that shit, you can ask the same question for anyone nowadays...recycling lines is as commonplace in hip hop as sampling...get over it...
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So Dre is ripping off Timbaland and Just Blaze, the two hottest producers in the game, now?
He sent Jay theese beats 1 year ago, so i dont think Dre could have heard Timbo´s beats for Justins new album... Cuz the "Trouble" beat reminds me of the "My Love" beat and sound nothing like any of Timbo´s earlier work...
So if someone have bite the other one, its timbo who bite dre without even hearing the beats dre sent jay a year ago and i dont find that possible..
Maybe its just a coincident?? Maybe they just choose the same direction in their musical evolution?? Its not impossible
Btw, "Trouble" is 2007´s "In da club" and it´s not even "hip pop" its dark and angry, it will earn respect from the true heads 2.
Peace
I think people mean that the drum pattern sounds a lot more Timbo than Dre....but for this bein "In da club", naaaahhh it's nowhere near that. I think Stat Quo's "Get low" is closer, and that's still not too close.
lol yeah this and "Get Low" arent even in the same league as "In Da Club"
Well did you think "In the club" were in the same leauge as "Still dre" as an example, one week after 50 released GRODT??
It´s a grower, a BIG one!
Like i said, if they shoot a video for this yall will be calling the song a classic after the first wiew...
Peace
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The into was nice but for every other beat Jay got hustled.
Damn one of Just blaze's tracks i think it was 'Oh My god' sounded like psycho elephants on the rampage. Terrible.
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How many Big and Pac lines did he recycle for this CD?
jeez..get the fuck outta here with that shit, you can ask the same question for anyone nowadays...recycling lines is as commonplace in hip hop as sampling...get over it...
Don't get mad at me cause Jay-Z is a swagger jacker.
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Leaked already. Nothin special upon first listen. "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
BANNED DONT POST ALBUM LINKS!
lmao
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So Dre is ripping off Timbaland and Just Blaze, the two hottest producers in the game, now?
He sent Jay theese beats 1 year ago, so i dont think Dre could have heard Timbo´s beats for Justins new album... Cuz the "Trouble" beat reminds me of the "My Love" beat and sound nothing like any of Timbo´s earlier work...
So if someone have bite the other one, its timbo who bite dre without even hearing the beats dre sent jay a year ago and i dont find that possible..
Maybe its just a coincident?? Maybe they just choose the same direction in their musical evolution?? Its not impossible
Btw, "Trouble" is 2007´s "In da club" and it´s not even "hip pop" its dark and angry, it will earn respect from the true heads 2.
Peace
I think people mean that the drum pattern sounds a lot more Timbo than Dre....but for this bein "In da club", naaaahhh it's nowhere near that. I think Stat Quo's "Get low" is closer, and that's still not too close.
lol yeah this and "Get Low" arent even in the same league as "In Da Club"
Well did you think "In the club" were in the same leauge as "Still dre" as an example, one week after 50 released GRODT??
It´s a grower, a BIG one!
Like i said, if they shoot a video for this yall will be calling the song a classic after the first wiew...
Peace
When I first heard In Da Club I was like WHOA.. this shit was crazy when it came out. I actually heard it a few months before they gave it radio spins and I kept trying to rip it off the net so I could show all my friends this new rapper with this dope ass club track. When that CD came out that track was played everywhere.
I like this Trouble track but I also don't see it on the level of In Da Club.
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Is it just me or does "30 Something" sound like some DJ Quik shit?
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Do You Wanna Ride is an amazing track, I'm loving how this album has songs that hit you at different times - Trouble caught my ear first and got heavy spins and now its Ride with its ill flip of the Jade sample.
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Honestly, this is a decent album. Not as good as Black Album, but still good.
To be real though, the production makes this album. Jay just bores the hell outta me.
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Another decent thing about Kingdom Come: it didnt have a wack ass Jamie Foxx track like every albums does lately.
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This review and these comments furhter strenghten my stand on getting the album: Other albums get priority and I'll get it when I got some extra cash.