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Title: What would you rather have.....?
Post by: Suga Foot on November 26, 2001, 04:42:32 PM
When listening to a song, would you rather have dope lyrics or a dope beat.  Like which do you prefer?

I'd rather have a dope beat.  I listen to the beat of a song more than the lyrics.
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Post by: Big BpG on November 26, 2001, 06:55:57 PM
Lyrics... I despise people who like music for the beat... that's how we get these retarted TRL Rappers... Nelly, DMX, and so on... they bring weak lyrics, but they have good production... that catches our attention. I buy an album because of the rapper, not because Dr. Dre is producing 1 song, not because Timbaland hooked up JT Money with a nice beat... I'll be repeating the lryics, so I want something to dope... that's why I choose Snoop and Nas and so many others, because lyrically they are fun to listen to and they can turn their tongue like no other person. The beats important, but hey, its the words that count... stacey adams for example... people shit on this because of the beat, i admire it because of the lyrics, we see it differently i guess.

-Big BpG
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Post by: Nosak on November 26, 2001, 07:35:30 PM
                                                           ^
both , that y music is made , duh lol            "
                                                           "
both mostly lyrics like my homeboy              "
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Post by: bLaDe on November 26, 2001, 07:41:45 PM
Both really, thats what makes up the pefect song, ..like most of 2pacs songs

But it also depends on my mood, if i'm in a chilling mood, or want sumthing to bump to, imma play sum music with a gud beat
Or when i'm in a sad/emotional or thinking mood kinda, imma listn to meaning ful stuff with good lyrics.

A lotta rappers dont get famous cause like bpg said, they go after the beats, many kids dont know wht real rap is, so they like Nelly and shit like dat ...

Many artists dont get the recognition because of their weak beats, but they have awsome, influencial lyrics

peace

 -{bLaDe}
Title: Re: What would you rather have.....?
Post by: West Coast Veteran on November 26, 2001, 07:43:26 PM
Beat first. Lyrics have to be decent though. I can't listen to a song with a wack ass beat no matter how dope the lyrics are. I rather read a book.
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Post by: Dogg_Pound_Gangsta on November 26, 2001, 08:49:28 PM
as long as the lyrics flow to the beat then im happy.


Peace
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Post by: NEW_MINORITY on November 27, 2001, 05:14:09 AM
lyrics and beats go hand in hand
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Post by: HBKid_Jr on November 27, 2001, 06:57:49 AM
it depends,  like for example,  when i do my homework i rather listen to suptin more lyrically advance like illmatic or liquid swords,  but when im chillin i rather listen to suptin that emphasizes beats more tha lyrics,  it all depends on my mood
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Post by: CodeCaine on November 27, 2001, 07:57:24 AM
lyrics....cuz anyone can spit rhyming wordz over a dope beat...tha lyrics have to mean something but on tha otherhand tha beat has to fit tha lyrics also...
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Post by: Murrow on November 27, 2001, 08:08:06 AM
I depends...I know peeps like Dre have made some wack MC's sound tight over one of his beats, so we be like, "This song is ill."  That's even though the raps are wack.  Y'all gotta admit, a tight ass beat can make you like a song if the lyrics are all that, but there are mad songs I like with tight raps and hooks.
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Post by: Don Seer on November 27, 2001, 08:16:10 AM
'i need a dope beat, a dope beat'

dope beat + a nice flow that fits.

dope beat + wack flow -> no
wack beat + dope flow -> no
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Post by: TheShiznit227 on November 27, 2001, 08:16:11 AM
The rappers voice matters to me too...like the tone of it and shit...that's why i aint Eminem's biggest fan cuz his nasal high voice annoys the fuck outta me after awhile...
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Post by: deeznutz on November 27, 2001, 08:27:26 AM
I would rather have a tight beat cuzz you can't bump lyrics in your car it would'nt sound right
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Post by: Sub-Z on November 27, 2001, 09:08:23 AM
all depends on  what kinda mood im in
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Post by: Suga Foot on November 27, 2001, 11:47:04 AM
This may sound weird but whenever I listen to a song, I automatically focus on the beat.  I don't just listen for the tune, I study it.  I think how many different instruments they used, how they layered eveything together, and the drum programming.  If I want to listen to the lyics, I really have to concentrate.  The beat always takes over.  I find myself doing this for almost every song I listen to.  Fucked up, huh?
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Post by: Don Seer on November 27, 2001, 11:50:06 AM
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This may sound weird but whenever I listen to a song, I automatically focus on the beat.  I don't just listen for the tune, I study it.  I think how many different instruments they used, how they layered eveything together, and the drum programming.  If I want to listen to the lyics, I really have to concentrate.  The beat always takes over.  I find myself doing this for almost every song I listen to.  Fucked up, huh?


i only do that when i'm fucked up... lol.. nah i do the same sometimes.
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Post by: TOSH on November 27, 2001, 11:52:54 AM
BEAT OVER LYRICS- NEDAY
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Post by: BossPlaya on November 27, 2001, 12:23:41 PM
it depends what kinda mood im in
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Post by: ToNe1904 on November 27, 2001, 11:42:57 PM
fah sho tha beat. tha beatz wha catchez yur attention when u first hear tha song. tha lyricz complete it. damn, i guess that mean cash money aint completed ONE song yet huh? wtf! lol
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Post by: BL7 on November 28, 2001, 12:24:47 AM
Beats are more important to me. Probably because I'm a BIG fan of music. Lyrics matter too, but if a Rapper has a tight flow, over a tight beat, but the lyrics ain't that much, I won't care.
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Post by: bLaDe on November 28, 2001, 12:52:54 AM

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This may sound weird but whenever I listen to a song, I automatically focus on the beat.  I don't just listen for the tune, I study it.  I think how many different instruments they used, how they layered eveything together, and the drum programming.  If I want to listen to the lyics, I really have to concentrate.  The beat always takes over.  I find myself doing this for almost every song I listen to.  Fucked up, huh?


Lolz i do thta too sumtimes, when i'm bumpin a song continusly on my discman, i start focusing on da beat, wht instraments used etc ... sumtimes i focus on the lyrics and the voice only

 -{bLaDe}
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Post by: infinite59 on November 28, 2001, 02:06:59 AM

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Lyrics... I despise people who like music for the beat... that's how we get these retarted TRL Rappers... Nelly, DMX, and so on... they bring weak lyrics, but they have good production... that catches our attention. I buy an album because of the rapper, not because Dr. Dre is producing 1 song, not because Timbaland hooked up JT Money with a nice beat... I'll be repeating the lryics, so I want something to dope... that's why I choose Snoop and Nas and so many others, because lyrically they are fun to listen to and they can turn their tongue like no other person. The beats important, but hey, its the words that count... stacey adams for example... people shit on this because of the beat, i admire it because of the lyrics, we see it differently i guess.

-Big BpG


Word.  I agree 100%.  Critics claim that the beats on Ras Kass's "Soul On Ice" are weak, but it doesn't matter because his lyrics make up for it.  And the Bass Brothers beats on "the Slim Shady LP" are average, but Eminem's lyrics more than make up for it.  peace.
Title: Re: What would you rather have.....?
Post by: Lil Jay on November 28, 2001, 02:31:24 AM
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Beat first. Lyrics have to be decent though. I can't listen to a song with a wack ass beat no matter how dope the lyrics are. I rather read a book.



hmm i gotta go with the vet this time. i mean it really depends on my mood, if i want a dope beat imma listen to a dope song with dope beat but yeah some days i want to bump so meaninful music and i listen to the lyrics.


See lyrics ain't nothin if the beat ain't crackin

thats what quik said, and its so true.
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Post by: caTASHtrophe on November 28, 2001, 06:20:32 AM
For me i like both but it probably goes 60% beats and 40% lyrics but it just depends on my mood.

Also i thought Stacy Adams was the shit. That  track is amazing.

Laterz.
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Post by: PLANT on November 28, 2001, 09:58:36 AM
when im crunked i need a beat to bounce to but when im sober i like more lyrics i thknk
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Post by: grimace on November 28, 2001, 01:37:51 PM

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This may sound weird but whenever I listen to a song, I automatically focus on the beat.  I don't just listen for the tune, I study it.  I think how many different instruments they used, how they layered eveything together, and the drum programming.  If I want to listen to the lyics, I really have to concentrate.  The beat always takes over.  I find myself doing this for almost every song I listen to.  Fucked up, huh?


Not really. it just means your into the music. I do the same thing a lot. Rap beats are too lame and generic a lot of times. I like music where you don't need lyrics to tell the story. Nowadays, you never get it. In any genre. The last song i've heard that does that for me in a while is The Isley Brothers: Contagious.


Since rap beats don't do it for me that much, i focus more on lyrics.
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Post by: Murrow on November 28, 2001, 01:41:51 PM
I'm into beats, I love analyzing and disecting them; picking out things, trying to pick up sounds that I didn't here before etc.  I love it beats.
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Post by: West Coast Veteran on November 28, 2001, 03:21:20 PM

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I'm into beats, I love analyzing and disecting them; picking out things, trying to pick up sounds that I didn't here before etc.  I love it beats.


Hey I love doin' that shit too...I always put on good quality headphones cause with them shits you can pick up a lot of the background sounds...
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Post by: Mighty Whitey on November 28, 2001, 04:18:37 PM
lyrics. I've had enough of Nelly & DMX to last 10 lifetimes
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Post by: Murrow on November 29, 2001, 07:55:32 AM

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Hey I love doin' that shit too...I always put on good quality headphones cause with them shits you can pick up a lot of the background sounds...


Yup, just sittin back and puttin them head phones on make the beat better for examination.   :)
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Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on November 30, 2001, 01:05:13 PM
I'd be the firs to tell ya that Lyrics come before beats...