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Title: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or not!!!
Post by: RivieraIII on November 24, 2001, 07:37:15 AM
Dre was on BET 2mns ago saying that his 5 greatest MCs ever were IN NO SPECIFIC ORDER:
+ Rakim
+ Nas
+ Jay-Z
+ Ras Kass
+ Eminem

I knew he really loved Em coz he always talks about how lyrical Em is. And I knew he loved Nas (that's why Nas was the 1st East Coast MC to work with him) and Rakim... But I didn't know for Jigga and Ras Kass... BEFORE 2PAC, CUBE, XZIBIT OR SNOOP, believe it or not???!!! I respect that though... I'm feelin' that... even though I would have put Pac and Cube up there. But again Ras Kass is so fucking ILL lyrically...
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: DPGC2001 on November 24, 2001, 07:49:31 AM
I'm a little surprised at that list...I didn't know he regarded Jigga so highly...Ras Kass is ill but I don't know if he is top 5 ever...I would put Krs-1 and Cube instead of Em and Jigga...
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: Top-Dogg2001 on November 24, 2001, 07:57:52 AM
I thought he might have jay-z on his list considering he had him write still d.r.e. The only thing that shocks me is ras kass and eminem. They are good but aren't top 5.
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: Murrow on November 24, 2001, 08:13:19 AM
Ras Kass is the only shocking MC on the list.
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 24, 2001, 08:14:50 AM
nothin realy suprised me on this list...we could kinda guess drez tastes in mcz by those who he works wit and by all kinds of other shitz....weird he didnt put biggie, pac or cube up there but hell... mceein iz a lil dif thing from bein a rappa ....em waz once sayin dat he seez mceein and rappin as a lil dif things he said he alwayz could feel pacz lyricz but pac waznt neceserly hiz fav mc...dre would probly put pac, cube and big under best rappaz...
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: Top-Dogg2001 on November 24, 2001, 08:22:26 AM
I swear cube better make it to atleast the teens in this list. He is so slept on these days because of all the movies he makes people actually forget he was a great rapper.  This countdown is already a disgrace considering mobb deep is  49, raekwon is #47, epmd is a #43, big pun is a #42 and master p is above them at a #38 what makes it worst is that the brat is over them at a #37. MP shouldn't even be on the list.
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: RivieraIII on November 24, 2001, 08:32:46 AM
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I swear cube better make it to atleast the teens in this list. He is so slept on these days because of all the movies he makes people actually forget he was a great rapper.  This countdown is already a disgrace considering mobb deep is  49, raekwon is #47, epmd is a #43, big pun is a #42 and master p is above them at a #38 what makes it worst is that the brat is over them at a #37. MP shouldn't even be on the list.


So far they have Mobb Deep/Prodigy at #49 (!!!!!!), Luke at #40 and Master P at #38... That's when you know there's something wrong... I'll post the whole BET Top 50 later so we can discuss it... Da Brat deserves her spot somewhere on the list though. A lot of people sleep on Da Brat coz she's fuckin' with JD. But she got one of the most incredible flow in Hip Hop history... YEAH, I said it...
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: WS on November 24, 2001, 08:48:27 AM
no pac?
guess pacs disses really did hurt him
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: .:N-Imy:. on November 24, 2001, 08:56:01 AM
That ain't really a gr8 top 5, I mean Jay Z.. ::)...Em & Nas are ok but I guess Pac did't get on it becos of Pac dissin Dre a lot befo Pac's death....I mean would oyu put a person on your top 5 MC's list if he dissed you quite a few times (I know, I know...it was supposedly Suge Knight that made Pac diss Dre) but no Snoop prolyl becos every1 know Snoop & Dre are close so no point, Cube?..Dre prolly forgot about him....anyways it an aight list but could do with sum more MC's...shoulda done a top 10 cos it easier to pick ppl rather than askin some1 for their top5.
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: RivieraIII on November 24, 2001, 09:05:18 AM
Some of y'all be tryin to find excuses for Snoop but DRE DIDN'T PUT HIM IN THE LIST, PERIOD!!!! Top 10, he would be on it... yeah  yeah, whateva, maybe... (he's in MINE fo' sure) but he ain't in the Dre's Top 5. All y'all sayin' DRE forgot Snoop and Cube, that's bullshit!!! HE PREFERS OTHERS. It's simple as that. It doesn't mean Snoop or Cube are wack (no one in his fuckin' right mind would say they ain't 2 of the illest) but kill the excuses, pleeeze... I was surprised myself by Dre's choice (that's why I posted the thread) but RA, EM, RAS, JIGGA and ESCO, that's DRE's muthafuckin' list... PE-fuckin'-RIOD!!!!!! We can all post our thoughts on it, but again, kill the dumb excuses ("everyone know Dre and Snoop are close" and that kinda shit; fuck that...)
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: Hittman on November 24, 2001, 09:14:20 AM

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but I guess Pac did't get on it becos of Pac dissin Dre a lot befo Pac's death....I mean would oyu put a person on your top 5 MC's list if he dissed you quite a few times


LOL. Thats Not The Reason At All. Dr Dre Always Gives Props To Tupac.
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: RivieraIII on November 24, 2001, 09:17:45 AM
Thank you, LOGIC... Cats be tryin to find excuses for Pac, Snoop and Cube... Nonsense!! Dre doesn't have to agree with all y'all...
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: WS on November 24, 2001, 09:19:12 AM
They probably paid Dre to say Nas Jay Z and Raskass
cause u know dre would sell out on his friends in a second for $$$$
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: RivieraIII on November 24, 2001, 09:22:55 AM

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They probably paid Dre to say Nas Jay Z and Raskass
cause u know dre would sell out on his friends in a second for $$$$


No diss, but that's ONE OF THE MOST STUPID SHIT I'VE HEARD IN A LONG ASS MUTHAFUCKIN' TIME...
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: WS on November 24, 2001, 09:43:06 AM
why else would he vote Ras Kass over snoop/cube?
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: teecee on November 24, 2001, 10:14:23 AM
Because Ras Kass is an amazing lyrisist and MC, thats why so stop with your dumbass statements.

The question is top MC's, if it was top 5 rappers i am sure Dre woulda put Snoop and Pac in there; i am surprised however that Cube ain't on his list but oh well/
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: Maestro Minded on November 24, 2001, 10:29:14 AM
hate on me if y'all want... but i think that list is 100 bull...... .. it's all a commersial thang....

if dre likes jay z and nas and rakim that much... how comes he (almost) never done tracks with them?? cuz y'all know the doctor can hook up with any rapper he want to....
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: RivieraIII on November 24, 2001, 10:56:49 AM

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Because Ras Kass is an amazing lyrisist and MC, thats why so stop with your dumbass statements.

The question is top MC's, if it was top 5 rappers i am sure Dre woulda put Snoop and Pac in there; i am surprised however that Cube ain't on his list but oh well/


Props to you, homie... U got it...
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: RivieraIII on November 24, 2001, 10:59:44 AM

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hate on me if y'all want... but i think that list is 100 bull...... .. it's all a commersial thang....

if dre likes jay z and nas and rakim that much... how comes he (almost) never done tracks with them?? cuz y'all know the doctor can hook up with any rapper he want to....


Rakim is on AFTERMATH... Nas was the FIRST East Coast MC to work with Dre... And Jigga wrote Still D.R.E., Dr. Dre official, I-can't-miss-this-time comaback single (plus Dre appeared on Life And Times Of S. Carter)... I rest my case, son...
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: WS on November 24, 2001, 11:25:19 AM

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hate on me if y'all want... but i think that list is 100 bull...... .. it's all a commersial thang....

if dre likes jay z and nas and rakim that much... how comes he (almost) never done tracks with them?? cuz y'all know the doctor can hook up with any rapper he want to....


I 100% agree with u, that is some bull shit
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: RivieraIII on November 24, 2001, 11:29:57 AM
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Rakim is on AFTERMATH... Nas was the FIRST East Coast MC to work with Dre... And Jigga wrote Still D.R.E., Dr. Dre official, I-can't-miss-this-time comaback single (plus Dre appeared on Life And Times Of S. Carter)... I rest my case, son...
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: Maestro Minded on November 24, 2001, 12:06:35 PM

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Rakim is on AFTERMATH... Nas was the FIRST East Coast MC to work with Dre... And Jigga wrote Still D.R.E., Dr. Dre official, I-can't-miss-this-time comaback single (plus Dre appeared on Life And Times Of S. Carter)... I rest my case, son...


before replying, i suggest that you read my post carefuly....

jigga wrote still dre .. --> so what??.... dre dont write ANY (almost any) of his rhymes...

rakim is on aftermath ---> .. strange that i havent heard dre given rakim mad props the day he singed.... or even years BEFORE he singed... if dre consider rakim as one of the 5 goat, he would say it to mtv (becuz of commersial reasons... selling cd's and shit).............


Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: Alex_Wreck on November 24, 2001, 12:42:08 PM
Ras Kass is amazing, period. Sometimes im surprised at the ignorance this board has, and i have to settle for the Soundcircuit.com board  :-/
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: .:N-Imy:. on November 24, 2001, 01:02:03 PM
If Dre put Jay-Z up there just cos Jay Z wrote "Still DRE" then that is fucked up....I mean Dre is asked for his top 5 MC's....not "who done things for you/you done things for them" list......Dre has got 2 stop ass kissin ppl and be honest...cos I gaurentee that if you asked him when the TV was no there....that list would be a whole lotta different.
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: RivieraIII on November 24, 2001, 01:11:54 PM

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before replying, i suggest that you read my post carefuly....

jigga wrote still dre .. --> so what??.... dre dont write ANY (almost any) of his rhymes...

rakim is on aftermath ---> .. strange that i havent heard dre given rakim mad props the day he singed.... or even years BEFORE he singed... if dre consider rakim as one of the 5 goat, he would say it to mtv (becuz of commersial reasons... selling cd's and shit).............





Man, I don't know about YOU but I heard DRE say Rakim is the GREATEST before today... And that was on fuckin' BET... PLUS, one way or another, RAKIM is in everyone who knows about Hip Hop Top 5... So, no, I don't see your point...
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: RivieraIII on November 24, 2001, 01:14:55 PM

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If Dre put Jay-Z up there just cos Jay Z wrote "Still DRE" then that is fucked up....I mean Dre is asked for his top 5 MC's....not "who done things for you/you done things for them" list......Dre has got 2 stop ass kissin ppl and be honest...cos I gaurentee that if you asked him when the TV was no there....that list would be a whole lotta different.


Bullshit... Jigga deserves every little bit of props he gets from Dre or whoeva for that matter... And he ain't even my favorite rapper OR MC... But real recognizes real and Dre's fo' real...
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: ROCCY on November 24, 2001, 01:16:55 PM
Yea..Hes like These Are my top 5 MC's No order I knew he was going to choose 2 of them I didnt know about the rest though..

Rakim
Nas
Jay-Z
Ras Kass
Eminem
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on November 24, 2001, 01:27:36 PM
I would've liked to see Pac up there, but then this is Dre's own PERSONAL opinion, it's no biggie that he doesn't reflect all of our oppinions.
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: RivieraIII on November 24, 2001, 01:31:14 PM

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I would've liked to see Pac up there, but then this is Dre's own PERSONAL opinion, it's no biggie that he doesn't reflect all of our oppinions.


THANK YOU...
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 25, 2001, 07:16:11 AM
i personally heared dre sayin" he waz a huge RAKIM fan since he waz a teen....and dat he waz buyin" RA"z cdz in two copies every time a piece droped.....he sayed it tha first time they dicleared RA iz gon be on MATH...
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Post by: Maestro Minded on November 25, 2001, 08:52:48 AM
if he says he bought 2 copies of each album, he was:

a: straight bullshittin
b: really stupid
c: extremley rich

i think i can filter b and c
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on November 27, 2001, 02:49:17 AM
he he....datz what he said....lol...he iz probly a very violent listener.. ;D..startin to jump all over tha place brakin tha sterio....wit tha cd in it...so he realy needed an extra copy.....lol.....



p.s...shit how dumn iz tha above-said a total waist of tha post... :P...did i type that?...lol
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: Big BpG on November 27, 2001, 05:15:32 AM

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Rakim is on AFTERMATH... Nas was the FIRST East Coast MC to work with Dre... And Jigga wrote Still D.R.E., Dr. Dre official, I-can't-miss-this-time comaback single (plus Dre appeared on Life And Times Of S. Carter)... I rest my case, son...


Damn fool..... no ones trippin on this post except for you... get dre's dick out of you're ass

-Big BpG
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: Maestro Minded on November 27, 2001, 05:17:58 AM
fo real.. im just tellin my opinion and the guy is slippin like if he was walkin on soap....
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: cremedelaclem on November 27, 2001, 05:40:55 AM
im feelin what top dogg said about how slept on cube is, people think of cube from friday and 3 kings and shit thesedays...they forget all those classic albums.
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: infinite59 on November 27, 2001, 07:10:38 AM

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Ras Kass is the only shocking MC on the list.


What was that supposed to mean homie.  He deserved to be on there.  Dre's been a fan of him.  That's why he got down with Rass on "Ghetto Fabulous."  Probably how he ended up hooking up with X to da Z.  

Yo... I'm real dissapointed he put Jigga on the list though, I'm started a new thread, I need someone to explain to me in detail what makes Jigga so great.  Because I don't get it.
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: Murrow on November 27, 2001, 08:05:31 AM
^  You'd think Dre would say Cube or Pac.
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: Antonio on November 27, 2001, 10:01:46 PM
This is a TOP 4 list. Cut Em, he in Aftermath. We all know he cant be in a TOP 5,  ;D

It's like Afeni saying Pac is in the TOP 5. Or SNOOP saying Tray Dee is in the TOP 5. U know what i mean?
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: infinite59 on November 28, 2001, 02:17:47 AM

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This is a TOP 4 list. Cut Em, he in Aftermath. We all know he cant be in a TOP 5,  ;D

It's like Afeni saying Pac is in the TOP 5. Or SNOOP saying Tray Dee is in the TOP 5. U know what i mean?


Why can't Em be in the top 5?  He deserves to be there.
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: Antonio on November 28, 2001, 12:25:48 PM
Just different opinions.  :P
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: Nosak on November 28, 2001, 03:21:44 PM
no snoop dogg ,lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
Title: Re: DR.DRE's 5 greatest MCs ever, believe it or no
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on November 29, 2001, 05:10:44 PM
No Xzibit
No KRS One
No Ice Cube
No MC Ren
No Snoop Dogg
No DOC
No Kool G Rap
No Chuck D (Or Public Enemy)
No 2Pac
No Biggie




All these people are better MCs than Jay Z, and that took me 5 seconds to write...