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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: driko95400 on November 17, 2006, 11:18:49 AM
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i READ EVERYTHING ABOUT TBCT AND I SEE THAT PEOPLE AREN'T GLAD . THEY WANNA SNOOP COME BACK GANGSTA AND HE DO IT ! NOW PEOPLE TALK LIKE THEY DON'T LIKE IT,AFTER DON'T CRY IF HE MAKES POP SONG >:(.
SNOOP JUST TRIES TO PUT ALL EYEZ ON THE WESTCOAST AND PEOPLE DON'T SEE IT !!
SAY WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THIS ALBUM ?
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It's wack.
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Dope album...Last two albums i didnt really like but this one great.
I will buy.
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Snoop just isn't has good as he use to be. Sure the album was better then his last 2, but West Coast hip hop fans are never satisfied.
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songs i liked:
That's That (Feat. R. Kelly)
Vato (Feat. B-Real)
Imagine (Feat. Dr. Dre & D'Angelo)
the rest is shit
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Just came back from the cd store
I love it!!!!
Tha Blue Carpet Treatment >>> Paid Tha Cost + R&G
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As always, I give credit where credit is due. A while back I said Snoop is talking about West Coast unity, but he won't stick to that when his album drops. He proved me wrong. This isn't a great album. It's pretty good though. R&G didn't have any songs I liked, this one already has about 5 that I keep re-playing. I'll give it some more time to grow on me before I give my final verdict.
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songs i liked:
That's That (Feat. R. Kelly)
Vato (Feat. B-Real)
Imagine (Feat. Dr. Dre & D'Angelo)
the rest is shit
nice summary but add LAX, Intro
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is the album out yet becuase people talk like its out now
doesn't it come out next week on tuesday
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Wackness and dopeness are, contrary to the beliefs of suburban white kids trying to be down, mutually exclusive from how "gangsta" an album sounds. I've heard albums that were gangsta as fuck and still wack, and likewise, I've heard albums that were pop as fuck and still dope.
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songs i liked:
That's That (Feat. R. Kelly)
Vato (Feat. B-Real)
Imagine (Feat. Dr. Dre & D'Angelo)
the rest is shit
nice summary but add LAX, Intro
dont know about that i thought LAX was pretty average. and yeah the intro is pretty dope but anyways the rest is still shit
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This album is wayyy better than his last, but its still not that great IMO. Way to man album fillers.
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Snoop came better but he still doesn't have it anymore, his lyrics are boring as shit and we've heard them all before
production isn't all that bad throughout, just guest appearances and repeated topics ruin it
I thought Fredwreck came with a weak beat on "Crazy" and Nate Dogg wasn't good either
it's like he tried to mix gangs and pop in one and it turned out to be awful for this record
aside from all that the Dr. Dre appearances were good to see and Battlecat came with nice beats
Snoop has either gotta work with other producers or hang up the mic
album is 3/10 at best
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Snoop came better but he still doesn't have it anymore, his lyrics are boring as shit and we've heard them all before
production isn't all that bad throughout, just guest appearances and repeated topics ruin it
I thought Fredwreck came with a weak beat on "Crazy" and Nate Dogg wasn't good either
it's like he tried to mix gangs and pop in one and it turned out to be awful for this record
aside from all that the Dr. Dre appearances were good to see and Battlecat came with nice beats
Snoop has either gotta work with other producers or hang up the mic
album is 3/10 at best
I agree. And I also agree that "Crazy" sucked, I just dont care to check for Nate anymore he is soo played out.
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This is just my 2 cents: I think Snoop really fucked up by saying that he needed to come back gangsta real quick before he lost his fans. That statement right there tells me you are making music to cater to a certain audience that you think or know will buy those kind of records. Granted, I have not heard BCT, but if this shit flops, Snoop is going to say that, Hey I gave the fans what they wanted and they still ain't happy. So that would give him a reason to go back to the R&G stuff.
Now I am sure he has a couple of R&Bish tracks on there and if people are not feeling the G shit he will be putting that shit out as the next single. I hope I am wrong but he should put a Dre single out there. He put alot of pressure on himself by saying that "going back gangsta" to put out the hardest g shit. The last album fans have had like that front to back would be NLTD or The Last Meal so expectations are already going to be to surpass that material.
I agree that Snoop has succeeded in making universal songs that people from all backgrounds of music can enjoy, but I think at times he is trying to cater to too many people. I could be wrong and the shit might be dope to me but this is just me rambling. ;D
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I gave it another try...and its a Great album..with great features too, Tha Dogg Pound, Warzone, Westurn Union,Dr.Dre, D'angelo , LaToiya Williams, R.Kelly, Akon , Nate Dogg, Stevie Wonder, he even got this great Soul singer called Raul Midon, so in a way he tried to keep everybody satisfied with this album, there is alot of Club Bangers, Alot of singles, and 2 or 3 memorable tracks, actually the only track I skip is LAX, but the rest is good, Lyrics are on point, the flow is amazing, and he aint talking shit like he used to so any songs has a good topic to it, of course some may skip "Like This" or "Boss Life" but try to bump it late at night and u'll see its good , as for Wich One Of U...its the type of song that u just vibe and clown to, My momma always dance to it so..Im happy with it
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Ohh and I am more of fan of the Lyrical Snoop ( Think about it, Boss Life, Imagine) Than the Gangsta Snoop (Gangbanging 101) , I dont know I take him more seriously when he flows over beats like this, just like the track on Biggie's last album (living the life i think) , he sounds good on it
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I gave it another try...and its a Great album..with great features too, Tha Dogg Pound, Warzone, Westurn Union,Dr.Dre, D'angelo , LaToiya Williams, R.Kelly, Akon , Nate Dogg, Stevie Wonder, he even got this great Soul singer called Raul Midon, so in a way he tried to keep everybody satisfied with this album, there is alot of Club Bangers, Alot of singles, and 2 or 3 memorable tracks, actually the only track I skip is LAX, but the rest is good, Lyrics are on point, the flow is amazing, and he aint talking shit like he used to so any songs has a good topic to it, of course some may skip "Like This" or "Boss Life" but try to bump it late at night and u'll see its good , as for Wich One Of U...its the type of songs that u just vibe and clown to, My momma always dance to it so..Im happy with it
That is cool to hear. People making this album sound like it's horrible. I'll find out for myself on Tuesday.
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songs i liked:
That's That (Feat. R. Kelly)
Vato (Feat. B-Real)
Imagine (Feat. Dr. Dre & D'Angelo)
the rest is shit
You obviously have never been a fan of Snoop's work, so its all good.
But really, you aren't feeling "Get a Light" or Think About it?" Snoop is amazing flow-wise on both songs. What about Crazy or Round Here?
I admit some songs are wack, but for the most part Snoop's flow is back to the SNoop of old and that has been sorely lacking the past couple of albums.
This will be the first Snoop album since Last Meal for me, definitely buying it. If only i could get a version without Psst and Beat up on Yo Pads I'd be happy!
As for Westcoast sayin the album is 3/10? WOW.........even east coast boards are sayign the album is nice, its not perfect but the good definitely outweighs the bad
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Fucc what these weirdo's talking about,Snoop dogg new album is a classic and everywhere i go everybody that heard it feel the same way,and im up in cali,everybody i run into say they getting that snoop dogg album,i was in the barbershop,them niggas had the bootleg copy playing all damn day,and all of them said they gonna buy the real one even tho they already got the bootleg because the album deserve the support,everybody that came in the shop said they was gonna get that shit because its banging,i went 2 long beach last night 2 see some of my folks and they all was on the snoop dogg shit,So fucc what these niggas on the internet is talking about,The streets is loveing snoop album and aint none of them bumping game album,everybody on snoop album.
so these niggas judgemnet dont count,the streets is what he made is album for and teh streets is loveing that shit,If u in teh streets pf La then u a know whats popping,snoop got the best album 2 come out this year,even niggas i know they hate gangsta rap,hate westcoast rap,never liked snoop even said damn snoop is really rapping on this album,im a get that when it comes out,Even i said snoop lost and never thought he a come with it again is loveing snoop album,Game shit is not that good in my opion,not compared 2 snoop shit
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songs i liked:
That's That (Feat. R. Kelly)
Vato (Feat. B-Real)
Imagine (Feat. Dr. Dre & D'Angelo)
the rest is shit
naaaaa mannnnn VATO is wack as fuck, dont know how snoop always got fuck tops singles or he worst productions by the neptunes!
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I got the Snoop album and i thought it was good.Some of the songs on there are fucking banging but the problem is he has to many filler tracks also.It has 21 tracks and i would say about 9 songs are filler songs and that kind lowers the albums replay value.I would still recomend it to any snoop fan they will not be disapointed.
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oh and listen to the flow on 10 lil crips...aint that what most of yall wanted?...DUBCC will never be satisfied
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DUBCC will never be satisfied
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Real snoop dogg fan's dont talk speak that ignorant towards him..who else on the west is helping westcoast music?..if snoop do a song with justin they bitch about it but if some other rappa like e-40 did a song with justin"wow thats hot"...they just fuckin bias! and who really gives a fuck..no matter what the fuck snoop do they will never be satisfied..just like back in 98 when snoop went to no limit..everybody was bitchin at him and DMX,JAY-Z,JA RULE ETC ETC WAS THE SHIT..Now where are they now?...only jay-z is still droppin shit and he fill off also.Snoop done as a classic album under his belt..every muthafuckin MAJOR RAP ARTIST fill off some how..either they aint hungry no more or they doin movies..WTF IS DRE,XZIBIT AND OTHER RAPPAZ ON THE WEST DOIN?..WHY IT AS TO BE SNOOP SNOOP SNOOP ..MOST OF U FUCKAZ DISSIN SNOOP FOR GAME BECAUSE THE GAME IS NEW BUT I'LL SEE IF GAME CAN CARRY THE WEST LIKE SNOOP IN THE NEXT 14YRS!..U THINK SNOOP GONA WASTE HIS TIME TRY'NA PLEASE MANKIND?..THATS A VERY HARD THING TO DO!!!!
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REAL TALK!...SINCE SNOOP BUSS IN 92 WHO ELSE CAME AFTER HIM TO CARRY THE WEST?..YA'LL FUCKAZ SHOULD BE ASHAME OF YA'LL SELF..SNOOP IS THE LIKE THE ONLY WELL KNOWN WESTCOAST RAPPA OTHERWISE FROM ICE CUBE,DRE AND GAME AND YA'LL BITCHIN ABOUT SNOOP ALBUM..IF IT AINT NO FUCKIN SNOOP DOGG IT WONT NO WESTCOAST MUSIC BECAUSE HE'S THE ONLY MUTHAFUCKAZ THATS INTERNATIONAL OVER THERE! AND YA'LL BITCHIN ABOUT HIS ALBUM..DA NIGGA BROUGHT A BUNCH OF MUTHAFUCKAZ ..IMAGINE IF HE HAD POWER LIKE DRE?..YA'LL A BUNCH DIPSET FAGS DRESS IN PINK LIKE GIRLS AND NEW GAME GROUPIEZ..I BEEN A FAN OF SNOOP SINCE DEEP COVER..MOST YA'LL DIDNT KNOW EM UNTIL THE OTHER DAY..I AINT GONA JUMP SHIP BECAUSE SOME OTHER RAPPER IS NEW OR HOT..FUCK DEM!..I'MA DIE HEARTED SNOOP FAN..THE NIGGA IS JUST LIKE ONE OF US,HE'S NOT PERFECT..PEOPLE MAKE CHANGES NOT EVEN DRE,JAY-Z OR NAS COULD BE LIKE WHAT THEY USE TO BACK IN THE DAYS..YA'LL EXPECTIN TOO MUCH FROM ONE NIGGA.
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It's wack.
u r wack ::)
people will always hate on snoop and they will not understand how his music is meant, so let them hate, don't care bout them. TBCT is a cool album!
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Maybe Snoop Dogg is just too old and runnin out of shit to rap about, thats why there needs to be new West Coast rappers banging out music on TV and shit before motherfuckers start think'n lame shit about the WEST!!!!
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i READ EVERYTHING ABOUT TBCT AND I SEE THAT PEOPLE AREN'T GLAD . THEY WANNA SNOOP COME BACK GANGSTA AND HE DO IT ! NOW PEOPLE TALK LIKE THEY DON'T LIKE IT,AFTER DON'T CRY IF HE MAKES POP SONG >:(.
SNOOP JUST TRIES TO PUT ALL EYEZ ON THE WESTCOAST AND PEOPLE DON'T SEE IT !!
SAY WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THIS ALBUM ?
shut up snoop.
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DUBCC will never be satisfied
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i READ EVERYTHING ABOUT TBCT AND I SEE THAT PEOPLE AREN'T GLAD . THEY WANNA SNOOP COME BACK GANGSTA AND HE DO IT ! NOW PEOPLE TALK LIKE THEY DON'T LIKE IT,AFTER DON'T CRY IF HE MAKES POP SONG >:(.
SNOOP JUST TRIES TO PUT ALL EYEZ ON THE WESTCOAST AND PEOPLE DON'T SEE IT !!
SAY WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THIS ALBUM ?
Even though I already stated in an earlier post everything you wrote here, I agree with you 100%. I have come to the conclusion that the majority of this board is comprised of youths in their mid-teens...that's the only logical conclusion.
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Wackness and dopeness are, contrary to the beliefs of suburban white kids trying to be down, mutually exclusive from how "gangsta" an album sounds. I've heard albums that were gangsta as fuck and still wack, and likewise, I've heard albums that were pop as fuck and still dope.
True.
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This is just my 2 cents: I think Snoop really fucked up by saying that he needed to come back gangsta real quick before he lost his fans. That statement right there tells me you are making music to cater to a certain audience that you think or know will buy those kind of records. Granted, I have not heard BCT, but if this shit flops, Snoop is going to say that, Hey I gave the fans what they wanted and they still ain't happy. So that would give him a reason to go back to the R&G stuff.
Now I am sure he has a couple of R&Bish tracks on there and if people are not feeling the G shit he will be putting that shit out as the next single. I hope I am wrong but he should put a Dre single out there. He put alot of pressure on himself by saying that "going back gangsta" to put out the hardest g shit. The last album fans have had like that front to back would be NLTD or The Last Meal so expectations are already going to be to surpass that material.
I agree that Snoop has succeeded in making universal songs that people from all backgrounds of music can enjoy, but I think at times he is trying to cater to too many people. I could be wrong and the shit might be dope to me but this is just me rambling. ;D
I agree. Let me add that the people who are saying this album is flat out terrible:
1) are not really Snoop fans. They're fans of a contemporary Westcoast style (whatever that may be) rather than of Snoop Dogg, the musician.
2) don't listen to reason. You can't say an album is flat out wack but could've been great had their been less fillers. An album doesn't go from "classic" or even "near classic" all the way to "wack" due to filler material. It's less of a severe drop-off than that. Hip hop fans by and large are obsessed with hyperbole, and it's hurting the culture. Besides, you can LEGALLY go to iTunes and dl the great songs and put together your "classic" and have nothing to complain about. But nooooo.
I'll repeat what I've been saying since the album first leaked. This album quality-wise is to Snoop what Blueprint was to Jay and Stillmatic to Nas.
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Man.....You just haters....
He makes pop album you not happy, he makes gangsta album you not happy......I don't think I've heard anyone ever satisfied what Snoop does........non of his albums.......
When Last meal, Dopp Dogg, PDCTBTB etc you were saying how it's not like Doggystlye, now that everyone agrees its better than R&G (which is a cool album in my books) and you still hate on it.......He scrapt his Ne-yo & Brandi joints (Which everyone was crying about) and added wack as Akon and a couple more shitty Dre tracks (apart from Imagine) , he stepped up his lyrics on this one......No Pimp shit on this one.....But you still act like ungreatful spoilt children...
I'll give you my synopsis of the album....
Intrology - Cool beat nice opener.....3.5/5
Think about it - Beat not super flash, but impressed with his lyrical flow on this one 3.5/5
Crazy - It's a different type of Fredwreck beat, but it's growing on me Nates cool 3.5/5
Vato - Cool story, not bad beat and gotta respect his message...3/5 (because this track old news now)
Thats that - R Kelly wack, beat has grown on me a little, but not feeling this as much 2.5/5
Candy - Dope club track....Nice WC line up and good to see him with G.Loc again 4.5/5
Get a light - nice hard beat....Club/gangsta track......feeling this track 5/5
Gangbangin 101 - This track had a lot of hype, but not feeling it as much 2.5/5
Boss life - Akon wack, Dre track wack, wack song....only upside Snoop brings it on lyircs 2/5
LAX - My fav track on album....not often BC uses voice samples either..Cube got the best line too...5/5
10 Lil Crips - This a cool hard Neptunes beat....Like this track 4.5/5
Round here - WTF Dre Smoking? STAN Rip off.....This is for all white Em fans....WACK! 0/5
A bitch I knew - whose Rhythem D? Wierd beat...kinda cool, but wired......2.5/5
Like this - The track for the oldies (apart from Thats that) Grown person track I like 4/5
Which one of you - 1500 got a maaaaaaad beat.....this crazy.........4.5/5
I wanna fuck you - Could've just left it for Akon album.....but its there, not as bad other Akon track 3/5
Psst - Another Club Banger.....Jamie Foxx, N8 and Brainz done good....Like this track 4/5
Beat up on yo pads - Football track? Denauan Porters beat crazy....Hi energy track..4 tha kids 4/5
Don't Stop - Glad this THX track on here.....Love this beat, Love track.....Kurupt came good too 5/5
Imagine - Growing on me.....Good story, good Dre beat (not crazy but good).....4/5
Conversations - Nice high spirit track to finish up with....yeah I dig this...just not a track to bump 3.75/5
Overall....Games album dope from start to finish, Snoop has a couple wack tracks, but the Dope tracks are more harder hitting than Games and make up for it...Plenty of replay value...shit this is what I've been bumping.....this gets a 4/5 or 8.5/10 or xl or 4 mics (whichever you prefer) from me....Definately picking this up!
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to me its a 6- 10 .
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I know that this is my "home" board, but my taste still seems to be A LOT different from everybody else's on the board. I still remember when "Drop it like its hot" came out, and 90% of the board hated it, and said it officially marked the end of Snoop's career....when it ended up being the biggest hit he's had since fuckin 1993.
Saying that....I think this album is hot, and probably his best since Tha Last Meal. I think it's a 8/10 easy....and as most people say, could be higher if it wasn't for the fillers. There are so many strong tracks on this album, and I haven't had a good west coast vibe on an album since 213....and as usual, 213 was another album that was dope as hell to me that everybody else on here seemed to hate.
I think many of us on here are just true west coast fans, and it is nearly impossible to please us. If Snoop dropped another Gin n juice, then "Snoop hasn't evolved at all since 1993"....if he drops "Drop it like its hot" then he is sellin out and he's tryin to go pop......if he drops Candy then he's droppin watery bullshit to appeal to the masses...if he drops another "B Please" then he's doin somethin we've heard before and he needs somethin else....it's like damm, it's no way for him to please us anymore.
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alot of WC fans are like bitches... they dont know what they want.
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This is just my 2 cents: I think Snoop really fucked up by saying that he needed to come back gangsta real quick before he lost his fans. That statement right there tells me you are making music to cater to a certain audience that you think or know will buy those kind of records. Granted, I have not heard BCT, but if this shit flops, Snoop is going to say that, Hey I gave the fans what they wanted and they still ain't happy. So that would give him a reason to go back to the R&G stuff.
Now I am sure he has a couple of R&Bish tracks on there and if people are not feeling the G shit he will be putting that shit out as the next single. I hope I am wrong but he should put a Dre single out there. He put alot of pressure on himself by saying that "going back gangsta" to put out the hardest g shit. The last album fans have had like that front to back would be NLTD or The Last Meal so expectations are already going to be to surpass that material.
I agree that Snoop has succeeded in making universal songs that people from all backgrounds of music can enjoy, but I think at times he is trying to cater to too many people. I could be wrong and the shit might be dope to me but this is just me rambling. ;D
I agree. Let me add that the people who are saying this album is flat out terrible:
1) are not really Snoop fans. They're fans of a contemporary Westcoast style (whatever that may be) rather than of Snoop Dogg, the musician.
2) don't listen to reason. You can't say an album is flat out wack but could've been great had their been less fillers. An album doesn't go from "classic" or even "near classic" all the way to "wack" due to filler material. It's less of a severe drop-off than that. Hip hop fans by and large are obsessed with hyperbole, and it's hurting the culture. Besides, you can LEGALLY go to iTunes and dl the great songs and put together your "classic" and have nothing to complain about. But nooooo.
I'll repeat what I've been saying since the album first leaked. This album quality-wise is to Snoop what Blueprint was to Jay and Stillmatic to Nas.
I just want Snoop to make the dopest music possible. I can appreciate the Drop It Like It's Hot Snoop, the 213 Snoop and the R&G Snoop. He has come back with a harder edge on almost all of the tracks he has been on so I think I will be diggin this new album. This forum has taught me to wait until the album comes out and bump it on ya own.
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alot of WC fans are like bitches... they dont know what they want.
lol, so very true
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The cd is as good as it was gonna be ;D
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songs i liked:
That's That (Feat. R. Kelly)
Vato (Feat. B-Real)
Imagine (Feat. Dr. Dre & D'Angelo)
the rest is shit
naaaaa mannnnn VATO is wack as fuck, dont know how snoop always got fuck tops singles or he worst productions by the neptunes!
vato was catchy ;D
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...he even got this great Soul singer called Raul Midon...
Oh shit, this is off topic, but he got RAUL MIDON on there? Last summer I went to a Kanye West concert, and Raul Midon was one of the warm up acts - and let me tell you, Raul Midon is DOPE AS FUCK! He's this blind Cuban dude, he performed by himself with just a mic and a guitar. He performed all types of songs, jazz, blues, soul... And they ALL - ALL - were off the fuckin chain. The only thing wrong with his set was that it was too short. I hadn't heard of him ever before that day, and I instantly became a fan. I need to get his record somewhere.
I haven't downloaded the album, what the few tracks I've heard, I liked. Thus, I'm gettin BCT. Plus, it's got another Snoop & Dre track, you gots to love that.