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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: RivieraIII on November 24, 2001, 11:42:34 AM
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Here it is...
1) 2Pac: YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2) Jay-Z
3) Notorious B.I.G.
4) Rakim
5) Nas
6) Snoop Dogg
7) LL Cool J
8) DMX
9) Chuck D
10) Scarface
11) Method Man
12) Ice Cube
13) Eminem
14) Big Daddy Kane
15) Busta Rhymes
16) Lauryn Hill
17) KRS-One
18) Outkast/ Dre 3000
19) Ja Rule
20) Eve
21) Nelly
22) Q Tip/A Tribe Called Quest
23) Black Thought/ The Roots
24) Slick Rick
25) Mos Def
26) Redman
27) Queen Latifah
28) Xzibit
29) Common
30) Kurupt
31) Ghostface
32) Jadakiss
33) MC Lyte
34) Juvenile
35) Run DMC
36) Kool G Rap
37) Da Brat
38) Master P
39) Easy E
40) Luther "Luke" Campbell
41) Kool Moe Dee
42) Big Pun
43) EPMD
44) Salt N Pepa
45) Bone Thugs N Harmony
46) Too Short
47) Raekwon
48) Melle Mel
49) Prodigy/ Mobb Deep
50) Missy Elliott
Thoughts and interesting stuff about the Top 5O show:
+ RAKIM at #4 ?????????? Jigga over the god RA????????????????? UN-BE-LIEVA-FUCKIN-BLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There's life on Mars, now I know... But RA is the only one of the older generation to be in the Top 5. That should tell a lot to all y'all 14 years old out there who went to vote... RAKIM WILL ALWAYS BE THE ILLEST...
+ JAY-Z before NOTORIOUS B.I.G. might shock a lot of people but I saw that comin'... Damn, it's still shocking though... but it shows what kinda RESPECT Jigga has nowadays... God! HE GOT PROPS FROM BLACK THOUGHT!!!!! Thought doesn't give props to mainstream rappers like that!!!! That's something...
+ I really had a HARD time typing "Nelly" and "Ja Rule"... Fo' real. That's straight up violation... And Juvenile, Master P and Luke? Damn... Of course that shit's gonna be controversial as hell but, hey, my Top 50 doesn't look quite like this one...
+ Ras Kass, Talib Kweli, Beanie Sigel, The Lady Of Rage and Big L are the MAJOR misses in my opinion... but I'm glad to see Mase ain't even near that list...
+ I think Prodigy's spot really reflect how he fell off in people's mind since "The Takeover"; I realize now that Jay-Z REALLY burned him... I still luv P though, no question...
+ Jigga before Nas doesn't surprise me considering WHO voted but it's ALWAYS gonna be NAS 1st in my opinion (no diss to Jigga coz he's the man...)
+ I'm happy to see that BIG DADDY KANE got his well deserved Top 15 spot coz he's the shit... I can't believe KRS-One is #17 though and Redman #26... Damn, damn, damn...
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PAC got props from Ras Kass, Puba, Noreaga...
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wheres Dre on that list ? i know ghostwriters write his shit sometimes but MC is someone who rocks the crowd . Dre should be on that muthafuckin list ......... and he should be in the top 15 in my eyes .
too short got some much deserved credit though ....... thats good to see the pioneer get some shine .
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man it's cool they gave at least some props to the west wit snoop at 6 and kurupt and xzibit and too short up on there but what the fuck is nelly and ja rule so high for! and master p and juvie have no busness at all being on that muthafucka!
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1) 2Pac: :)
2) Jay-Z: >:( shouldn't be this high, top 40 or 30 Maybe
3) Notorious B.I.G.: >:(can't really argue i personally would put a few cats ahead of him but any way you look at it he DESERVES TO BE WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY higher than jay-z! >:(
4) Rakim : >:( Belonged in the number 1 or 2 spot fo sho!
5) Nas: :)
6) Snoop Dogg: :-/ i'm happy for snoop becuase i'm a big fan but this is stretching it, snoop DOGGGY dogg most definatly but i dunno about just snoop dogg
7) LL Cool J: :-/... i guess
8) DMX >:( shouldn't even be on he list
9) Chuck D: >:( belonged higher
10) Scarface: :-/...i guess
11) Method Man: :-/ ...i wouldn't put him this high but some where i the top 15
12) Ice Cube: >:( fuck that he deserves to be higher
13) Eminem: :) i agree for now but in 5 years i'll put him waaaaaay higher
14) Big Daddy Kane: :) agreed
15) Busta Rhymes: :-/....what i said about snoop
16) Lauryn Hill: >:( doesn't belong
17) KRS-One: >:( FUCK THAT he deserves better!
18) Outkast/ Dre 3000 >:( same as above
19) Ja Rule >:( don't even deserve to be here
20) Eve >:( same as above
21) Nelly >:( same as above to the 1298437021843rd power!!!
22) Q Tip/A Tribe Called Quest >:( HIGHER!!!
23) Black Thought/ The Roots :-/....i guess, i'd put black thought i the top 15
24) Slick Rick: >:( HIGHER , should be in the top 10!
25) Mos Def: :-/...i love him but he's only got 2 cd's
26) Redman: :-/...i guess read what i said about snoop and busta
27) Queen Latifah: :-/...i guess , but i wouldn't even put her on
28) Xzibit: :) i'd put him higher but i'm also a HUGE fan so i guess
29) Common: :-/, i guess i wouldn't even put him on my list
30) Kurupt: :-/...don't get me wrong i love kurupt but this is stretching it waaaaaaaaaaaay to far
31) Ghostface: :-/....call me an ass hole but he doesn't deserve to be on here really
32) Jadakiss: >:( how the fuck did he make it!?
33) MC Lyte: :-/, i guess
34) Juvenile: >:( fuck that shit!
35) Run DMC: >:( HIGHER
36) Kool G Rap: >:( MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH FUCKING HIGHER!
37) Da Brat: >:( shouldn't even be on the list
38) Master P: >:( same as above
39) Easy E: :-/ in a way he deserves to be much higher but in a way he shouldn't be on
40) Luther "Luke" Campbell: :-/, shouldn't be on here but i guess the shit he did with 2 live crew gets him respect
41) Kool Moe Dee: :( he's always sucked
42) Big Pun: :) agreed
43) EPMD: :-/, i'd put them MUCH higher
44) Salt N Pepa: :-/, i wouldn't put them on this list but again i guess they did somethin for women
45) Bone Thugs N Harmony: :-/ i guess, i really wouldn't put them any higher or lower
46) Too Short: :-/, he's never been all that great as a rapper but he deserves to be MUCH higher for his pioneerism for the west coast and longevity and influece
47) Raekwon: :-/ should be higher but isn't all that consistat so i guess
48) Melle Mel: :-/, i never liked him
49) Prodigy/ Mobb Deep: >:( should be in the top 30 at LEAST
50) Missy Elliott >:(
monkey ass shouldn't even be on the list!
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straight up bullshit its a pitty they can't get proper hiphop journalists or somink without any biasts...
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YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAH TUPAC AMARU SHAKUR #1! THE G.O.A.T.! ;D
Pun should have been in the top 15 at least. He's in my top 10.
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as long as Pac is #1 .......... Its a good day for the West !!!! Im gonna ride for Pac tonite !!!! Break out the pac discography !!!
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>:(
That list honestly was a piece of shit. Nelly at #20 alone made me mad. What has happened to the beautiful artform of Hip Hop. Pac coming in at #1 was good but damn Master P,Fat ass Missy,Ja Rule?????? Can you tell some 12 year old's voted??? I listen to some Nelly and Ja Rule and DMX BUT THESE FOOLS DON'T FUCKIN DESERVE TO BE ON THIS LIST. I would have picked Ras Kass,TechN9ne and Brotha Lynch over them but for the most part most of the list was mainstream bullshit >:( >:( >:(
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ahhhhhhhh shit i just noticed how the fuck DMX before Ice Cube >:(
with all due respect to DMX he ight but Cube is a legend and DMX is NOT (yet) ......... simple as that.
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Ah, List Wasn't TOO Far Off. Of Course I Don't Agree With It Pefectly, But It Isn't Just Totally Wrong. The Top 20 Looks Decent, At Least. I Would Have Put Black Thought Much, Much Higher Though, He's So Dope. I'd Put Cube And Eminem Much Higher, Too... Having DMX Ja Rule, Nelly, And Eve Higher Than Black Thought, Slick Rick, And Common Is Probably Gonna Keep The Reviewers Outta The Pearly Gates, If Ya Know What I Mean.
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They also forgot TREACH!!!!!!!!! TREACH!!!!!!!! Damn, damn, damn, kids today don't know SHIT!!!!!!!!!! But I'm happy to see that nobody gives 2 fucks about Lil Kim...
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ahhhhhhhh shit i just noticed how the fuck DMX before Ice Cube >:(
with all due respect to DMX he ight but Cube is a legend and DMX is NOT (yet) ......... simple as that.
Yea That got me pissed too >:(
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They also forgot TREACH!!!!!!!!! TREACH!!!!!!!! Damn, damn, damn, kids today don't know SHIT!!!!!!!!!! But I'm happy to see that nobody gives 2 fucks about Lil Kim...
>:(
Those damn FUCKERS! Treach is the MAN!
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2Pac = G.O.A.T (even if he wasn't on the list as that he still would b in my eyes!), but tut, tut, tut, the rest is a shambles! Jigga in the top 5ive, honestly, he prolly wouldn't make my top 10. It's dope to see Snoop so high too ;D Ja Rule #19!! Total BS!! Busta over KRS One! Geeeez, the majority of this list has got me thinking if they even know whut an MC is!
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27) Queen Latifah: :-/...i guess , but i wouldn't even put her on
Yo' dogg, she should mos definetly be on the list...maybe a lil lower tho....
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Damn... They also slept on GURU... and Keith Murray...
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Jigga Over Biggie? Dmx over cube? Nelly over everyone else under him?
Bone thugs less than Jada, Ja, Juve, Master p, ghostface, brat, kurupt etc etc..............
And why tha fuck is Busta and Lauryn so high??????
And dont get me started on Ja and Nelly being in tha top 20.........
Cmon this list is WACK as usual.........
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i cant believe Guru isnt on the list either ............. that is sad :-/
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7 West coast MC's overall. I think Dre should of made it over the likes of Master P, Nelly and EAZY- E. I mean, Dre was a better rapper than him, even though both didn't write their own rhymes, Eazy was #39!
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Sigh. I'm glad I had to work and missed it.
Tupac over Rakim ???
Pac is good and all, but Rakim is the definition of an emcee. Pac over Ra proves that this isn't gonna be good.
Snoop Dogg? On that list? Please. Snoop DOGGY Dogg maybe, but not in the top 20.
LL Cool J might not be the shining star he WAS, but he's a legend. And there's no denying his MC skills from back in the day. And this is Best MC of ALL TIME.
"10) Scarface: ...i guess"
What is there to guess about? Scarface is a great lyracist, he's been around for a long time, and he's still making great music. I woulda put him at 10 too.
KRS-ONE needs to be #3.
Who ever voteds for Ja Rule, Nelly(him at 21, there is no God), and Juvinile needs to be kicked out of the country.
Slick Rick is the best stroy teller of all time, and deserves to be in the top 10.
No ones gonna be completly happy with this, unless it's their exact list. As long as you like the artist, dont' worry about what someone else thinks of them.
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double post.
Slick Rick at #5!!!!!!!
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+ RAKIM at #4 ?????????? Jigga over the god RA????????????????? UN-BE-LIEVA-FUCKIN-BLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There's life on Mars, now I know... But RA is the only one of the older generation to be in the Top 5. That should tell a lot to all y'all 14 years old out there who went to vote... RAKIM WILL ALWAYS BE THE ILLEST...
+ JAY-Z before NOTORIOUS B.I.G. might shock a lot of people but I saw that comin'... Damn, it's still shocking though... but it shows what kinda RESPECT Jigga has nowadays... God! HE GOT PROPS FROM BLACK THOUGHT!!!!! Thought doesn't give props to mainstream rappers like that!!!! That's something...
+ I really had a HARD time typing "Nelly" and "Ja Rule"... Fo' real. That's straight up violation... And Juvenile, Master P and Luke? Damn... Of course that shit's gonna be controversial as hell but, hey, my Top 50 doesn't look quite like this one...
+ Ras Kass, Talib Kweli, Beanie Sigel, The Lady Of Rage and Big L are the MAJOR misses in my opinion... but I'm glad to see Mase ain't even near that list...
+ I think Prodigy's spot really reflect how he fell off in people's mind since "The Takeover"; I realize now that Jay-Z REALLY burned him... I still luv P though, no question...
+ Jigga before Nas doesn't surprise me considering WHO voted but it's ALWAYS gonna be NAS 1st in my opinion (no diss to Jigga coz he's the man...)
VERY ON POINT that shit is so damn true for real
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good lookin'
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I Agree About Treach, Damn Shame.
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"10) Scarface: ...i guess"
What is there to guess about? Scarface is a great lyracist, he's been around for a long time, and he's still making great music. I woulda put him at 10 too.
i only said " i guess" becuase i wouldn't put him at number 10 but then again i don't think i'd put him much higher or lower myself scarface is a legand fo sho
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1) 2Pac: :)
2) Jay-Z: >:( shouldn't be this high, top 40 or 30 Maybe
3) Notorious B.I.G.: >:(can't really argue i personally would put a few cats ahead of him but any way you look at it he DESERVES TO BE WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY higher than jay-z! >:(
4) Rakim : >:( Belonged in the number 1 or 2 spot fo sho!
5) Nas: :)
6) Snoop Dogg: :-/ i'm happy for snoop becuase i'm a big fan but this is stretching it, snoop DOGGGY dogg most definatly but i dunno about just snoop dogg
7) LL Cool J: :-/... i guess
8) DMX >:( shouldn't even be on he list
9) Chuck D: >:( belonged higher
10) Scarface: :-/...i guess
... i guest u didn't like this list , hmmmmm do a petition , boycott bet lol
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Like I said in another post, I didn't even waste my time with that shit cause I would get pissed.
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i know yall are gonna hate but... id but warren g & (maybe) daz on it... i mean warren g made one of the rap classics regulate... oh and of course dre should be on the list
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hmmm, only counted about 7 westcoast rapperz, SURPRISE SURPRISE. its a miracle a westcoast artist got tha numba one spot. Thank God it was pac...n not that clown Jay-Z. how did hiz sorry Pop music makin azz get on tha list anywayz...but number 2?! yall clownin cuz nelly on here....n true...he shouldnt be....but jay-z at numba 2 iz tha craziest. Otha prollems....Nas is WAY too high. LL iz way too high. i mean, if Run DMC iz at 35....hez no betta. fah sho. i agree tho, where tha fuk iz treach n guru?! i mean....i neva felt guru'z music....but shit, if he aint one of tha thightest MCs!? who iz!?otha people missin....wit people like nelly, luke, missy, masterP , juvenile, jadakiss, ja rule......wherez E-40!? wherez Ice T!? i dunno, if this is truly tha people voting....then we cant be mad at it i guess. but it showz how much people really know....or betta yet....DONT know. Maybe BET shoulda DEFINED MC when they asked this question. oh well. oh yah, n also...jus anotha thing to show how much tha voters know about rap music....Jay-Z, Nas, LL, DMX, Method Man, Eminem, Busta Rhymes, and Lauren Hill.....all voted higher then KRS??? WTF?! i mean, i could AT LEAST make an argument for tha others that were ranked higher....but those 8?! ah hell naw....
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this shit is fuccin weak...how the fucc does redman and big pun, prodigy and jadakiss get way below nelly and ja rule??? this is some bullshitstraight the fucc up...id like nas before jayz and biggie was definatly a better MC than tupac was...rakim could have been number 1 in m y opinion...this shit is straight garbage!!!
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bigjake.. i defintniley gotta agree with what u said
damn some of this list isnt right:
nelly
ja rule
jay z.... he deserves to be on the list but not that high
master p... dre is better than him and he wasn't on
also Eve IMO doesnt desevre to be there
KRS-One definitley deserved way better.. also hes on of the best freestylers out of that list..he proably is tha best there IMO at freestylin
no missy elliot either
DMX better tha cube? thats just wrong IMO
Jay Z again ... better than Rakim?
damn this shows how BET really knows their mC's.. it should be on talent.. not how much they sell
also one more thing.. an MC i think they shoulda added but this is my opinion is MC Ren.. the villain..Look at that list one more tyme and u kno hes better than some of them
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yah we all know thiz list iz bullshit. but, lately i been hearin alotta yall dissin kurupt...but if it comes tah freestylin, cant nobody really fade him. KRS iz tight. but if this list reflectz sumbodiez freestylin ability...then kurupt gotta be higher. not tah mention, chino xl goan hafta be on tha list too then. This list aint nuthin really thenna popularity list.
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one word describes this list,WACK
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this list is utter garbage. they dont even know what the fuck a muthafuckin mc is. they just voted for all that bullshit pop music(ja Rule, Nelly). those muthafuckas that voted are goddamn sheep. they jump on the first bandwagon they see their friends on. try havin some real hip hop fans do the votin. then you'll have a fuckin accurate list. fuck that list man its bullshit. those voters just voted for shit they hear on the radio.
Peace
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Damn y'all they forgot B-Real, GZA, Pos from De La Soul, and all the Beasties, that shits just dumb...
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Man that list is BULLSHIT, gud thing they put 2pac 1st
Jay Z second? waht the mothafuk??
LL cool j etc over eminem? Ice cube? Outkast? XZIBIT???
WTF???
man i could go on and on, that shit is WAAACKKK YO
wtf is up wid these guyz, dun know the menain of hip hop
-{bLaDe}
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any best emcee list that doesnt have KRS in the top ten is fucking bullshit.
Nelly at number 21....complete and utter bullshit.
cube isnt in the top 10, guru isnt in the list!
G Rap is at number 36!!!!! below Juvenile, Jadakiss, Latoofat, Nelly, Eve, DMX, and Ja rule, this is terrible!
heres my list
1 Chuck D - The most important man to touch a mic
2 Biggie - I came up on his music, and im a meta4 fan
3 2 Pac - the guy was phenomenal
4 KRS One - responsible for so much
5 Ice Cube - before he hit his playa phase his subject matter was all that.
6 Rakim - he defined what an emcee is
7 Jay Z - ive always been a jay z fan, he moves with the times
8 Nas - the greatest poet in hip hop
9 Guru - consistently one of the best
10 LL Cool J - hes got mad versatility and hes still real
11 Kool G Rap - the greatest battle emcee ever
12 Eminem - serious skills
13 Snoop - hugely popular and original style
14 Kool Keith - abstract and brilliant
15 big daddy kane - fly egotastic rhymes, definatley a legend
16 Mos Def - pre hip hop by a true head with mad skills
17 Ghostface Killah - constantly original and fresh
18 Q Tip - unique and dope
19 Big L - his rhymes ALWAYS blow me away
20 Big Boi - crazy dope, remember that spoken word verse on 'spottieottiedopealiscious"? "and the crowd went wild, as if holyfield had just won the fight..."
21 Lauryn Hill - another true poet, check my signature quote for proof
22 Method man - this guy is one of the most charismatic emcees ever, and he got flows to boot
23 Scarface - grimey and raw...face always comes correct. brutal truth
24 Run DMC - so important to the artform
25 Ras Kass - mind blowing use of words
26 Xzibit - a truly great emcee who doesnt follow trends
27 Slick Rick - mc ricky d is STILL tight
28 Kurupt - very underapreciated, but 'streetz..' is a certified classic
29 EPMD - consistent and real
30 De La Soul - a personal favirote...original native tongue legends still going strong
31 lord finesse - trememdous teqnique
32 Busta Rhymes - cant knock busta...he does HIS thing, and he does it well
33 Raekwon - he gave us 'only built 4 cuban links' plus countless other classic verses
34 Andre 3000 - hes the man, he sees things from a dope perspective i think
35 Redman - funk doctor, doesnt take himself too seriouslly and produces dope hip hop
36 Black Thought - anyone who gives as much knowledge in an entertaining way as this man does gets my props.
37 GZA - so underated, its a crime that people sleep on the genius as a solo artist
38 Mike Zoot - The guy practically invented underground hip hop, and hes a pioneer of independent hip hop
39 Keith Murray - "im keith not bill/ murray not sweat" funny and fresh
40 CL Smooth - Hes rhymed on so many lclassic tracks
41 Del the funky homosapien - 3 quality solo albums, plus all his mad shit with the gorillaz and hieroglyphics
42 Talib Kweli - soulfull, hes bringing a positive message.
43 Melle Mell - an old school pioneer who deserves his props
44 Tash - a really advanced emcee (mad punchlines and a unique flow)
45 Phife Dawg - dope ass mcee, to put it simply, he loves hip hop and it shows
46 Common Sense - Ive been digging his shit since 'A retrospect for life'
47 B Real - cmon.....i know y'all didnt sleep on b real
48 Treach - he always impresses me
49 Fatlip - My favirote member of a tight ass group
50 Charli 2na - What do you mean who!....j5 frontman...maaaad skills