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Title: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: biggeazy-e on November 20, 2006, 08:21:44 AM
what do you think Game could've added to Doctor's Advocate? Anything to make it a little more west, a little more like all the other classics... whatever..
I've been bumping it since i DL'd it, bought it, still bumping it, but, IMO.. it seemed a little "short".. like it needed just one or two things extra....

i thought with a couple of skits, and maybe one or two other west coast(rap) features (not singing on hooks, etc), it would've been up there amongst Chronic, 2001, Doggystyle, etc....

anybody think it could've used a little something extra???


edit- listening to $20 sack pyramid as i type this topic...
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic..
Post by: Peacock on November 20, 2006, 08:23:36 AM
Yeah, If he got Chingy, Nelly & Neptunes on it then it would be certified westcoast classic
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: Kassem on November 20, 2006, 08:29:26 AM
maybe a lil story telling anyways it won't even comes close to chronic
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: SGV on November 20, 2006, 08:46:35 AM
Skits ruin the flow of an album. He had Snoop, Xzibit and Nate Dogg... How much more West Coast do you need it to be?
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: THETRUTHUG on November 20, 2006, 08:48:29 AM
maybe one track wit quik n cube?

compton pt2 lol
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: biggeazy-e on November 20, 2006, 08:52:19 AM
Skits ruin the flow of an album. He had Snoop, Xzibit and Nate Dogg... How much more West Coast do you need it to be?
he also had daz, kurupt.....
IMO, chronic set the standard for a classic... and nobody has been there since (well, since 2001 that is..)

"open the door and you'll see his big dickk fuckin somebody!!......"
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on November 20, 2006, 08:58:27 AM
Album is very  good like this...better then most people xpected. Yeah its same old Game, nothing new in his style, or in his songs....so there was no suprises. Maybe i miss a collabo with his BWS rappers-thats all.
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic..
Post by: big mat on November 20, 2006, 09:01:10 AM
like the other guy said i lil bit of storytelling would be nice, he only talks about him, how great he is, how much other are jealous and dr.dre. He could tell little storie about the hood, compton, that would be nice. I dont feel name dropping to much. But this time it didn't bother me as much as documentary did so it's aiiight
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: biggeazy-e on November 20, 2006, 09:16:22 AM
...better then most people xpected.
definitely
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: T-Dogg on November 20, 2006, 09:32:28 AM
I think it's dope as it is. If I was to add to it, I'd maybe throw in some West Coast legend rap feature, like Cube or something. Maybe a story track. Or maybe a Quik track. Skits - nah. It's hard as hell to get skits right. I can only think of Dr. Dre's records having good skits, those being the legendary $20 Sack Pyramid and Ed-Ucation. On the top of my head you could do away with others.
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic..
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on November 20, 2006, 10:22:54 AM
Skits ruin the flow of an album. He had Snoop, Xzibit and Nate Dogg... How much more West Coast do you need it to be?
He could of had Juice and Clyde Carson on there. They are on his recod label after all.
Like someone else said, a little more story telling would of been nice.
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: d-nice on November 20, 2006, 10:26:57 AM
A BWS feature would have been nice and I was looking forward to a Cube/Game collabo since Game said it would go down but the album itself is bangin regardless.
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic..
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on November 20, 2006, 10:34:40 AM
like the other guy said i lil bit of storytelling would be nice, he only talks about him, how great he is, how much other are jealous and dr.dre. He could tell little storie about the hood, compton, that would be nice. I dont feel name dropping to much. But this time it didn't bother me as much as documentary did so it's aiiight

one night, d.a and old english are all telling a  story.
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: SGV on November 20, 2006, 11:30:55 AM
Its a Game album, not a compilation. With Snoop, Xzibit, Nate, Daz, Kurupt' Nas, Jaime Foxx, Marsha, Busta... How many more collabos can he have without this album being only 50% Game? West Coast fans are never satisfied. And then we wonde why were never coming back.
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: westkoastanostra on November 20, 2006, 11:33:53 AM
Its a Game album, not a compilation. With Snoop, Xzibit, Nate, Daz, Kurupt' Nas, Jaime Foxx, Marsha, Busta... How many more collabos can he have without this album being only 50% Game? West Coast fans are never satisfied. And then we wonde why were never coming back.
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic..
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on November 20, 2006, 11:36:46 AM
Its a Game album, not a compilation. With Snoop, Xzibit, Nate, Daz, Kurupt' Nas, Jaime Foxx, Marsha, Busta... How many more collabos can he have without this album being only 50% Game? West Coast fans are never satisfied. And then we wonde why were never coming back.
Almost everyone on dubcc is saying that the album is great. This topic is just to discuss how it could of been made even better.
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: Kassem on November 20, 2006, 11:53:36 AM
like the other guy said i lil bit of storytelling would be nice, he only talks about him, how great he is, how much other are jealous and dr.dre. He could tell little storie about the hood, compton, that would be nice. I dont feel name dropping to much. But this time it didn't bother me as much as documentary did so it's aiiight

one night, d.a and old english are all telling a  story.
yeah but we needed some act of fool ,6 n the morning type of shit
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: dammaged7 on November 20, 2006, 12:17:10 PM
Skits ruin the flow of an album. He had Snoop, Xzibit and Nate Dogg... How much more West Coast do you need it to be?
he also had daz, kurupt.....
IMO, chronic set the standard for a classic... and nobody has been there since (well, since 2001 that is..)

"open the door and you'll see his big dickk fuckin somebody!!......"

since chronic enough westcoast albums have been success, ie snoops doggystyle, cubes death certificate, predator, and even cubes war album. even eazys 187um album was a killa album, 7 songs and it went double platinum. lets not forget wsc bow down. remmeber chrnoc was a pure deathrow album, cos look aty the number of fueatures, and that didnt ruin it.

i think it would have been nice to get cube on cali vacation, or on one of the 1st 2 tracks.
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: WC Iz Active on November 20, 2006, 12:18:11 PM
Its a Game album, not a compilation. With Snoop, Xzibit, Nate, Daz, Kurupt' Nas, Jaime Foxx, Marsha, Busta... How many more collabos can he have without this album being only 50% Game? West Coast fans are never satisfied. And then we wonde why were never coming back.

On-Point.   There are enough features already.  Westcoast fans can never be satisfied :-\
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic..
Post by: Bones01 on November 20, 2006, 12:43:35 PM
like the other guy said i lil bit of storytelling would be nice, he only talks about him, how great he is, how much other are jealous and dr.dre. He could tell little storie about the hood, compton, that would be nice. I dont feel name dropping to much. But this time it didn't bother me as much as documentary did so it's aiiight

one night, d.a and old english are all telling a  story.
yup and around the world
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: Blesswitskill on November 20, 2006, 12:49:41 PM
Quik, Dre and Bishop
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic..
Post by: GangstaBoogy on November 20, 2006, 01:04:55 PM
the album is great the way it is. no skits, real west coast sounding. only thing i wish he would've done was add the one blood remixes as hidden bonus songs.
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: BL7 on November 20, 2006, 01:38:10 PM
West Coast fans are never satisfied.
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: Dopeisjay on November 20, 2006, 02:27:12 PM
Yeah what he Needed Was Dre.. and Quik.. actualy.. there was a Track made feat Quik aswell as prod. by Quik.. feat Ice Cube..  for D.A. but i dunno what happened to it?? it was supposed to be the lead single..
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: biggeazy-e on November 20, 2006, 02:53:44 PM
Its a Game album, not a compilation. With Snoop, Xzibit, Nate, Daz, Kurupt' Nas, Jaime Foxx, Marsha, Busta... How many more collabos can he have without this album being only 50% Game? West Coast fans are never satisfied. And then we wonde why were never coming back.

On-Point.   There are enough features already.  Westcoast fans can never be satisfied :-\
i never ssaid i didnt like the album.. after all, i downloaded it two weeks before it came out, then proceeded to purchase it
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic..
Post by: biggeazy-e on November 20, 2006, 02:56:25 PM
Its a Game album, not a compilation. With Snoop, Xzibit, Nate, Daz, Kurupt' Nas, Jaime Foxx, Marsha, Busta... How many more collabos can he have without this album being only 50% Game? West Coast fans are never satisfied. And then we wonde why were never coming back.
Almost everyone on dubcc is saying that the album is great. This topic is just to discuss how it could of been made even better.
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: I`m Wayne Brady bitch! on November 20, 2006, 03:29:34 PM
the best thing he could do, and allmost every other rapper out there SHOULD do, is to just have 1 producer to do the entire album. All these producers on one album crash, it sounds more like a compilation than a album to me.
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: acgrundy on November 20, 2006, 03:52:39 PM
lmao!  did I read that correctly?  Maybe if he added a couple of skits?  are you kidding me?  Skits are more worthless than Spice Girls cock in a whorehouse.
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic..
Post by: big mat on November 20, 2006, 03:56:27 PM
like the other guy said i lil bit of storytelling would be nice, he only talks about him, how great he is, how much other are jealous and dr.dre. He could tell little storie about the hood, compton, that would be nice. I dont feel name dropping to much. But this time it didn't bother me as much as documentary did so it's aiiight

one night, d.a and old english are all telling a  story.

yeah but he is inventing story about himself, that's not good storytelling to me
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic..
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 20, 2006, 04:40:25 PM
The album was very well done. Not too short where you feel ripped off. Barely any fillers. Great features. Hot production. What more can you ask for?
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: da flayboyant 2 on November 20, 2006, 05:06:03 PM
i woulda traded in dpg and jelly roll for bws and njd
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic..
Post by: GangstaBoogy on November 20, 2006, 07:34:57 PM
The album was very well done. Not too short where you feel ripped off. Barely any fillers. Great features. Hot production. What more can you ask for?

judging from the responses, they want some muthafuckin skits. you know those pointless 30 second tracks that take up space and ruin the flow of the album? yeah that's what the people want  ???
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: biggeazy-e on November 20, 2006, 07:39:13 PM
i woulda traded in dpg and jelly roll for bws and njd
i thought that dpg track was tight.. maybe he could've just given us 21 tracks.. a skit and a few bws features?  ;D
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic..
Post by: da flayboyant 2 on November 20, 2006, 07:39:59 PM
The album was very well done. Not too short where you feel ripped off. Barely any fillers. Great features. Hot production. What more can you ask for?

judging from the responses, they want some muthafuckin skits. you know those pointless 30 second tracks that take up space and ruin the flow of the album? yeah that's what the people want  ???
well some people are retarded
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: AxleF on November 20, 2006, 07:40:33 PM
Yeah what he Needed Was Dre.. and Quik.. actualy.. there was a Track made feat Quik aswell as prod. by Quik.. feat Ice Cube..  for D.A. but i dunno what happened to it?? it was supposed to be the lead single..

That wouldve been a nice add.. but how about what he couldve subtracted.. hhhmmm.. how about.. name dropping..!
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: biggeazy-e on November 20, 2006, 07:48:39 PM
Yeah what he Needed Was Dre.. and Quik.. actualy.. there was a Track made feat Quik aswell as prod. by Quik.. feat Ice Cube..  for D.A. but i dunno what happened to it?? it was supposed to be the lead single..

That wouldve been a nice add.. but how about what he couldve subtracted.. hhhmmm.. how about.. name dropping..!
for real...
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic..
Post by: LooN3y on November 20, 2006, 07:49:44 PM
like the other guy said i lil bit of storytelling would be nice, he only talks about him, how great he is, how much other are jealous and dr.dre. He could tell little storie about the hood, compton, that would be nice. I dont feel name dropping to much. But this time it didn't bother me as much as documentary did so it's aiiight

one night, d.a and old english are all telling a  story.

yeah but he is inventing story about himself, that's not good storytelling to me

its cuz i heard he didnt join the hood till after college. sum guy my homies bro knoes said that he used to be a college boy staright up.
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: Vegasmac25 on November 20, 2006, 09:17:00 PM
I would say it would have been tight if he would of added an DJ quik and/or a Timbaland track.
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: SGV on November 20, 2006, 10:14:33 PM
How is adding 3 or 4 more features; skits; or even more tracks going to make this album better (or a Classic)??? The shit is solid. In actuality, the song with Daz and Kurupt could've and (IMO, should've) been left off. He had some solid features in Nas, Busta, Snoop, Xzibit, Marsha and Jamie Foxx... All in all, there wasn't much more that needed to be done. You guys are just trying to nitpick the little things when you should be praising the man for making a great album without the help of Dre or 50 Cent.
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: wcsoldier on November 20, 2006, 10:24:42 PM
^^^ yep , I don't know the reason of this thread... this album is great but WC fans seem to want the perfection, a thing which doesn't exist... and please stop bitchin about having  Dre beats when 90% of the production on DA is way better than Dre current work....
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: Slikk_J on November 21, 2006, 01:52:43 AM
First I would like to applaued him for not having Dre on the album......that move is great in my books....

To make it better.......Game could've spat better lyrics and done a little less name dropping....His flow gets a bit tedious for me after the same shit..........Maybe he could've put some other new comers on the map......I don't know......Don't get me twisted on this one, Games album tight, but still sounds Dreish/mainstream......not real WC sound to it......If you get what I mean

But Im happy with it......but agree with what the dude who started the thread said, there is something really missing......Like it's an album you can bang from start to finish, and Snoop has a few tracks that are weak on his album, but the tracks that are bumping (from BCT) come harder, where as Games album is consitent throughout...no real super standout tracks.......But Im pleased both dropped heat.
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: biggeazy-e on November 21, 2006, 07:16:59 AM
^^^ yep , I don't know the reason of this thread... this album is great but WC fans seem to want the perfection, a thing which doesn't exist... and please stop bitchin about having  Dre beats when 90% of the production on DA is way better than Dre current work....
perfection=the chronic... it does exist...

the topic is just to see what some people might've expected, thought would make it a better album (to them)...

all i was looking at is what different people like to see in an album... if you thought it was as good as it could be, cool..

also, you said 90% was better than dre's current work- dre inspired production is all over that album
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: biggeazy-e on November 21, 2006, 07:18:38 AM
First I would like to applaued him for not having Dre on the album......that move is great in my books....

To make it better.......Game could've spat better lyrics and done a little less name dropping....His flow gets a bit tedious for me after the same shit..........Maybe he could've put some other new comers on the map......I don't know......Don't get me twisted on this one, Games album tight, but still sounds Dreish/mainstream......not real WC sound to it......If you get what I mean

But Im happy with it......but agree with what the dude who started the thread said, there is something really missing......Like it's an album you can bang from start to finish, and Snoop has a few tracks that are weak on his album, but the tracks that are bumping (from BCT) come harder, where as Games album is consitent throughout...no real super standout tracks.......But Im pleased both dropped heat.
you think it was more west than the documentary?.. i thought most of the album had more of a west coast feel to it.. (than documentary)
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: red on November 21, 2006, 08:11:54 AM
A Timbaland track and some BWS features.  Other than that, the album is solid as is.  By the way IMO the DPG song bumps so I don't know why some of yall complain about it.
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: biggeazy-e on November 21, 2006, 09:39:30 AM
A Timbaland track and some BWS features.  Other than that, the album is solid as is.  By the way IMO the DPG song bumps so I don't know why some of yall complain about it.
that song reminds me of some other song..... cant think of what it is.....thats some real dpg shit right there  8)
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on November 21, 2006, 10:08:36 AM
skits are the worst thing an album can have.
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: biggeazy-e on November 21, 2006, 10:57:20 AM
skits are the worst thing an album can have.
imo, only depending on the artist and the artists' creativity.... i know of a few tht didnt fuck up the flow of the album, didnt make the album much better, but for damn sure didn't make it worse..

how about this question- what would you rather hear; 21 track album with 17 good tracks, and 4 filler tracks

or

21 track album with 17 good tracks, and 4 skits that don't ruin the flow of the album?

think of "good" as your single favorite track from 17 west coast albums
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: J$crILLa on November 21, 2006, 05:28:48 PM
maybe one track wit quik n cube?

compton pt2 lol

Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on November 21, 2006, 05:50:37 PM
^^^ yep , I don't know the reason of this thread... this album is great but WC fans seem to want the perfection, a thing which doesn't exist... and please stop bitchin about having  Dre beats when 90% of the production on DA is way better than Dre current work....

yo im agreeing with some shit you be spittin these days son
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic..
Post by: akcranker - The Dangerous Crew Movement on November 21, 2006, 07:44:31 PM
I understand Game looks up to Nas as a legend and all and I know he's got his "big bro" busta.. but I would have preferred to leave both of them off the album and bring in some young westcoast artists like Bishop, Glasses, Techniec etc..

But yes overall this is a great album and I'm loving it.
Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic......
Post by: tha_Hard_Hitta on November 22, 2006, 04:21:16 AM
Since mack10 is no longer in WSC Game shoud have taken his place and then the 3 should have made a trach for DA to announce this.

Title: Re: If only Game would've called _________first...D.A. could've been a classic..
Post by: SGV on November 22, 2006, 01:45:22 PM
I understand Game looks up to Nas as a legend and all and I know he's got his "big bro" busta.. but I would have preferred to leave both of them off the album and bring in some young westcoast artists like Bishop, Glasses, Techniec etc..

But yes overall this is a great album and I'm loving it.

Busta is the only rapper that could've fit on that Doctors Advocate track. What would Bishop or Glasses have brought to that track? Nothing as far as insight. Plus, he wasn't really feeling those 2 when the album was being recorded. So there goes that out the window.