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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: GangstaBoogy on November 24, 2006, 08:54:26 PM
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...in a 104-107 lost to the Orlando Magic.
He had a great game (33 points, 5 rebounds, 15 assist, 3 steals, 2 blocks), but that just goes to show that he relies too much on the refs and Shaq. Sorry Wade fans, but he's not Kobe. He can't carry a team by himself.
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The Heat are pathetic right now.
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...in a 104-107 lost to the Orlando Magic.
He had a great game (33 points, 5 rebounds, 15 assist, 3 steals, 2 blocks), but that just goes to show that he relies too much on the refs and Shaq. Sorry Wade fans, but he's not Kobe. He can't carry a team by himself.
Who can carry a team by themselves?
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#24 ;D
But nah, when I said by himself I ment without Shaq
Kobe > Penny > Wade
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in all fairness to wade he's facing a point in his year career that kobe didn't have to worry about until later on. plus you got to remember that kobe was like this his first year leading the lakers without shaq. all stats no wins, ect. i'd wait til wade even has a career comparable to kobe's before we start judging him against kobe
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in all fairness to wade he's facing a point in his year career that kobe didn't have to worry about until later on. plus you got to remember that kobe was like this his first year leading the lakers without shaq. all stats no wins, ect. i'd wait til wade even has a career comparable to kobe's before we start judging him against kobe
LMAO! Kobe never faced this early in his career? How often was Shaq injured in the threepeat era? And were the Lakers losers during that period of time? NO! And how do you compare what Kobe went through in the 2004-05 season, leading an expansion team under a brand new coach and system. Lakers were STILL a few games over .500 midway through that season, until Rudy-T stepped down and everything became a disaster. Kobe >>>>>> Wade. Even Kobe at 19 was better than Wade now...PeACe
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1. at 19 kobe was chucking air balls in the playoffs.
2. kobe is 28 wade is 24
3. 4 years ago kobe was playing on the 2002-2003 laker squad that was unbeatable, any absense of shaq could quickly be cusioned by the team that took 6 years to build and was already a well oiled machine
4. the heat are in it's 3rd year of building around shaq/wade , and don't have much cusioning around them, they are very reliant (much like orlando was) on both players in action, like i said wade is facing a point in his career that has before it came for kobe two years ago. wade is still only in his 4th year of playing , kobe is in his 10th, and was in his 8th season before he had to lead a team all by himself. wait til wade has had a career before you go out trying to compare the two to each other.
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1. at 19 kobe was chucking air balls in the playoffs.
2. kobe is 28 wade is 24
3. 4 years ago kobe was playing on the 2002-2003 laker squad that was unbeatable, any absense of shaq could quickly be cusioned by the team that took 6 years to build and was already a well oiled machine
4. the heat are in it's 3rd year of building around shaq/wade , and don't have much cusioning around them, they are very reliant (much like orlando was) on both players in action, like i said wade is facing a point in his career that has before it came for kobe two years ago. wade is still only in his 4th year of playing , kobe is in his 10th, and was in his 8th season before he had to lead a team all by himself. wait til wade has had a career before you go out trying to compare the two to each other.
LOLLL. They'll never be comparable, because Wade doesn't have the same ability as Kobe, and he never will. He's not nearly as sharp, despite Kobe's airballs, he still had a MUCH better shot, especially from long range, always has. Better defense, better basketball mind. Kobe never depended on jumping in the air and getting a foul called, Wade is simply athletic, his talent is very limmited compared to Kobe, even at 19...As for Miami has no cusioning, LOL! Miami basically signed a bunch of proven players and vets to surround Shaq and Wade and you say they have no cusioning? That can never be used as an excuse by a Heat fan, which is just what you are... :-*
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http://www.youtube.com/v/BC5sW1Xnj3g
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Kobe is better than Wade but neither guy has seen much success when Shaq went down.
Those Laker teams were geared towards Shaq anchoring the middle, when he left the roster was changed to better suit Kobe.
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wait til wade has had a career before you go out trying to compare the two to each other.
I've been saying the same thing, but since everyone feels that it's okay to say that Wade is just as good or better than Kobe then let's see Wade live up to that.
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Kobe is better than Wade but neither guy has seen much success when Shaq went down.
Those Laker teams were geared towards Shaq anchoring the middle, when he left the roster was changed to better suit Kobe.
Leading a team composed of rookies to being a rebound away from upsetting a 2nd seed is pretty much a success...And this year Lakers are pretty much considered contenders by everyone, just wait until Kobe is 100%...Kobe - Shaq >>> Wade - Shaq. :-*
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1. at 19 kobe was chucking air balls in the playoffs.
2. kobe is 28 wade is 24
3. 4 years ago kobe was playing on the 2002-2003 laker squad that was unbeatable, any absense of shaq could quickly be cusioned by the team that took 6 years to build and was already a well oiled machine
4. the heat are in it's 3rd year of building around shaq/wade , and don't have much cusioning around them, they are very reliant (much like orlando was) on both players in action, like i said wade is facing a point in his career that has before it came for kobe two years ago. wade is still only in his 4th year of playing , kobe is in his 10th, and was in his 8th season before he had to lead a team all by himself. wait til wade has had a career before you go out trying to compare the two to each other.
LOLLL. They'll never be comparable, because Wade doesn't have the same ability as Kobe, and he never will. He's not nearly as sharp, despite Kobe's airballs, he still had a MUCH better shot, especially from long range, always has. Better defense, better basketball mind. Kobe never depended on jumping in the air and getting a foul called, Wade is simply athletic, his talent is very limmited compared to Kobe, even at 19...As for Miami has no cusioning, LOL! Miami basically signed a bunch of proven players and vets to surround Shaq and Wade and you say they have no cusioning? That can never be used as an excuse by a Heat fan, which is just what you are... :-*
1. if i was a heat fan i'd be defending the heat , i just said their roster isn't sustainable
2. miami has a washed up gary payton, jayson williams (lol) , antoine walker (lol) their only sustainable players outside of shaq and wade are posey and haslm. zo is off and on but i can't blame him (age)
3. and again wait til wade has had a career before you judge him, also kobe's career isn't the blueprint on 'how-to-have-a-career' again like i said wait til the two have had a career before you compare the two. i said the same for vince carter a while back when everyone was on his nuts, only NOW can you compare the two players. same with t mac, same with iverson marbury, camby , nash, ect.
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1. at 19 kobe was chucking air balls in the playoffs.
2. kobe is 28 wade is 24
3. 4 years ago kobe was playing on the 2002-2003 laker squad that was unbeatable, any absense of shaq could quickly be cusioned by the team that took 6 years to build and was already a well oiled machine
4. the heat are in it's 3rd year of building around shaq/wade , and don't have much cusioning around them, they are very reliant (much like orlando was) on both players in action, like i said wade is facing a point in his career that has before it came for kobe two years ago. wade is still only in his 4th year of playing , kobe is in his 10th, and was in his 8th season before he had to lead a team all by himself. wait til wade has had a career before you go out trying to compare the two to each other.
LOLLL. They'll never be comparable, because Wade doesn't have the same ability as Kobe, and he never will. He's not nearly as sharp, despite Kobe's airballs, he still had a MUCH better shot, especially from long range, always has. Better defense, better basketball mind. Kobe never depended on jumping in the air and getting a foul called, Wade is simply athletic, his talent is very limmited compared to Kobe, even at 19...As for Miami has no cusioning, LOL! Miami basically signed a bunch of proven players and vets to surround Shaq and Wade and you say they have no cusioning? That can never be used as an excuse by a Heat fan, which is just what you are... :-*
1. if i was a heat fan i'd be defending the heat , i just said their roster isn't sustainable
2. miami has a washed up gary payton, jayson williams (lol) , antoine walker (lol) their only sustainable players outside of shaq and wade are posey and haslm. zo is off and on but i can't blame him (age)
3. and again wait til wade has had a career before you judge him, also kobe's career isn't the blueprint on 'how-to-have-a-career' again like i said wait til the two have had a career before you compare the two. i said the same for vince carter a while back when everyone was on his nuts, only NOW can you compare the two players. same with t mac, same with iverson marbury, camby , nash, ect.
I don't give a fuck, I'm talking about Wade NOW, he's shown nowhere NEAR the same ability as Kobe...Maybe he'll get better, maybe not. Who knows, but I'm speaking as of now...PeACe
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Kobe is better than Wade but neither guy has seen much success when Shaq went down.
Those Laker teams were geared towards Shaq anchoring the middle, when he left the roster was changed to better suit Kobe.
Leading a team composed of rookies to being a rebound away from upsetting a 2nd seed is pretty much a success...And this year Lakers are pretty much considered contenders by everyone, just wait until Kobe is 100%...Kobe - Shaq >>> Wade - Shaq. :-*
Wade + Odom > Kobe + Odom. I mean, just using your logic.
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Kobe is better than Wade but neither guy has seen much success when Shaq went down.
Those Laker teams were geared towards Shaq anchoring the middle, when he left the roster was changed to better suit Kobe.
Leading a team composed of rookies to being a rebound away from upsetting a 2nd seed is pretty much a success...And this year Lakers are pretty much considered contenders by everyone, just wait until Kobe is 100%...Kobe - Shaq >>> Wade - Shaq. :-*
Wade + Odom > Kobe + Odom. I mean, just using your logic.
LMFAO!. Simply put, no. Wade wasn't even the leader on that Odom + Wade Miami team...LOL.
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Kobe is better than Wade but neither guy has seen much success when Shaq went down.
Those Laker teams were geared towards Shaq anchoring the middle, when he left the roster was changed to better suit Kobe.
Leading a team composed of rookies to being a rebound away from upsetting a 2nd seed is pretty much a success...And this year Lakers are pretty much considered contenders by everyone, just wait until Kobe is 100%...Kobe - Shaq >>> Wade - Shaq. :-*
Wade + Odom > Kobe + Odom. I mean, just using your logic.
LMFAO!. Simply put, no. Wade wasn't even the leader on that Odom + Wade Miami team...LOL.
LMFAO! They won a playoff series, so which, by using your logic that means that combo is better.
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Kobe is better than Wade but neither guy has seen much success when Shaq went down.
Those Laker teams were geared towards Shaq anchoring the middle, when he left the roster was changed to better suit Kobe.
Leading a team composed of rookies to being a rebound away from upsetting a 2nd seed is pretty much a success...And this year Lakers are pretty much considered contenders by everyone, just wait until Kobe is 100%...Kobe - Shaq >>> Wade - Shaq. :-*
Wade + Odom > Kobe + Odom. I mean, just using your logic.
LMFAO!. Simply put, no. Wade wasn't even the leader on that Odom + Wade Miami team...LOL.
LMFAO! They won a playoff series, so which, by using your logic that means that combo is better.
Okay using that logic, Odom + Wade were better. Wade wasn't a factor on that team though. Out of that draft class, no one really knew who wade was till Shaq went there.
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Kobe is better than Wade but neither guy has seen much success when Shaq went down.
Those Laker teams were geared towards Shaq anchoring the middle, when he left the roster was changed to better suit Kobe.
Leading a team composed of rookies to being a rebound away from upsetting a 2nd seed is pretty much a success...And this year Lakers are pretty much considered contenders by everyone, just wait until Kobe is 100%...Kobe - Shaq >>> Wade - Shaq. :-*
Wade + Odom > Kobe + Odom. I mean, just using your logic.
LMFAO!. Simply put, no. Wade wasn't even the leader on that Odom + Wade Miami team...LOL.
LMFAO! They won a playoff series, so which, by using your logic that means that combo is better.
LOL. You're too dumb to get it. The Miami Heat were a much more rounded and experienced team, Wade was a minor factor. The duo of Kobe and Odom is lightyears ahead of Wade and Odom...PeACe
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Kobe is better than Wade but neither guy has seen much success when Shaq went down.
Those Laker teams were geared towards Shaq anchoring the middle, when he left the roster was changed to better suit Kobe.
Leading a team composed of rookies to being a rebound away from upsetting a 2nd seed is pretty much a success...And this year Lakers are pretty much considered contenders by everyone, just wait until Kobe is 100%...Kobe - Shaq >>> Wade - Shaq. :-*
Wade + Odom > Kobe + Odom. I mean, just using your logic.
LMFAO!. Simply put, no. Wade wasn't even the leader on that Odom + Wade Miami team...LOL.
LMFAO! They won a playoff series, so which, by using your logic that means that combo is better.
Okay using that logic, Odom + Wade were better. Wade wasn't a factor on that team though. Out of that draft class, no one really knew who wade was till Shaq went there.
LMAO, you are insane. That was when Wade became the a new star in the league.
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Kobe is better than Wade but neither guy has seen much success when Shaq went down.
Those Laker teams were geared towards Shaq anchoring the middle, when he left the roster was changed to better suit Kobe.
Leading a team composed of rookies to being a rebound away from upsetting a 2nd seed is pretty much a success...And this year Lakers are pretty much considered contenders by everyone, just wait until Kobe is 100%...Kobe - Shaq >>> Wade - Shaq. :-*
Wade + Odom > Kobe + Odom. I mean, just using your logic.
LMFAO!. Simply put, no. Wade wasn't even the leader on that Odom + Wade Miami team...LOL.
LMFAO! They won a playoff series, so which, by using your logic that means that combo is better.
LOL. You're too dumb to get it. The Miami Heat were a much more rounded and experienced team, Wade was a minor factor. The duo of Kobe and Odom is lightyears ahead of Wade and Odom...PeACe
LOL! Kobe and Odom haven't done shit. Odom and Wade have....PeACe
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Kobe is better than Wade but neither guy has seen much success when Shaq went down.
Those Laker teams were geared towards Shaq anchoring the middle, when he left the roster was changed to better suit Kobe.
Leading a team composed of rookies to being a rebound away from upsetting a 2nd seed is pretty much a success...And this year Lakers are pretty much considered contenders by everyone, just wait until Kobe is 100%...Kobe - Shaq >>> Wade - Shaq. :-*
Wade + Odom > Kobe + Odom. I mean, just using your logic.
LMFAO!. Simply put, no. Wade wasn't even the leader on that Odom + Wade Miami team...LOL.
LMFAO! They won a playoff series, so which, by using your logic that means that combo is better.
Okay using that logic, Odom + Wade were better. Wade wasn't a factor on that team though. Out of that draft class, no one really knew who wade was till Shaq went there.
woa now, that's when wade was realized, it was in that playoff series, and even before that when wade would put up big number every once in a while
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Kobe is better than Wade but neither guy has seen much success when Shaq went down.
Those Laker teams were geared towards Shaq anchoring the middle, when he left the roster was changed to better suit Kobe.
Leading a team composed of rookies to being a rebound away from upsetting a 2nd seed is pretty much a success...And this year Lakers are pretty much considered contenders by everyone, just wait until Kobe is 100%...Kobe - Shaq >>> Wade - Shaq. :-*
Wade + Odom > Kobe + Odom. I mean, just using your logic.
LMFAO!. Simply put, no. Wade wasn't even the leader on that Odom + Wade Miami team...LOL.
LMFAO! They won a playoff series, so which, by using your logic that means that combo is better.
Okay using that logic, Odom + Wade were better. Wade wasn't a factor on that team though. Out of that draft class, no one really knew who wade was till Shaq went there.
LMAO, you are insane. That was when Wade became the a new star in the league.
Dude, it's obvious that you don't even watch basketball...Wade was putting up 15 PPG in his rookie season, not even superstar numbers...He became a league sensation in his SECOND season... ::)
And what are you saying? a rookie Wade and Lamar Odom were better than Kobe and Odom? Kill yourself now.
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Kobe is better than Wade but neither guy has seen much success when Shaq went down.
Those Laker teams were geared towards Shaq anchoring the middle, when he left the roster was changed to better suit Kobe.
Leading a team composed of rookies to being a rebound away from upsetting a 2nd seed is pretty much a success...And this year Lakers are pretty much considered contenders by everyone, just wait until Kobe is 100%...Kobe - Shaq >>> Wade - Shaq. :-*
Wade + Odom > Kobe + Odom. I mean, just using your logic.
LMFAO!. Simply put, no. Wade wasn't even the leader on that Odom + Wade Miami team...LOL.
LMFAO! They won a playoff series, so which, by using your logic that means that combo is better.
Okay using that logic, Odom + Wade were better. Wade wasn't a factor on that team though. Out of that draft class, no one really knew who wade was till Shaq went there.
woa now, that's when wade was realized, it was in that playoff series, and even before that when wade would put up big number every once in a while
Take your Heat jersey off for a second, and realize that Wade + Odom are nowhere NEAR Kobe + Odom...unless you're as stupid as that other guy is.
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Kobe is better than Wade but neither guy has seen much success when Shaq went down.
Those Laker teams were geared towards Shaq anchoring the middle, when he left the roster was changed to better suit Kobe.
Leading a team composed of rookies to being a rebound away from upsetting a 2nd seed is pretty much a success...And this year Lakers are pretty much considered contenders by everyone, just wait until Kobe is 100%...Kobe - Shaq >>> Wade - Shaq. :-*
Wade + Odom > Kobe + Odom. I mean, just using your logic.
LMFAO!. Simply put, no. Wade wasn't even the leader on that Odom + Wade Miami team...LOL.
LMFAO! They won a playoff series, so which, by using your logic that means that combo is better.
Okay using that logic, Odom + Wade were better. Wade wasn't a factor on that team though. Out of that draft class, no one really knew who wade was till Shaq went there.
LMAO, you are insane. That was when Wade became the a new star in the league.
Dude, it's obvious that you don't even watch basketball...Wade was putting up 15 PPG in his rookie season, not even superstar numbers...He became a league sensation in his SECOND season... ::)
And what are you saying? a rookie Wade and Lamar Odom were better than Kobe and Odom? Kill yourself now.
LMAO Wade + Odom > Kobe + Odom. End of thread.
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^^Yes! You got me there!!...Time to die now.
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Kobe is better than Wade but neither guy has seen much success when Shaq went down.
Those Laker teams were geared towards Shaq anchoring the middle, when he left the roster was changed to better suit Kobe.
Leading a team composed of rookies to being a rebound away from upsetting a 2nd seed is pretty much a success...And this year Lakers are pretty much considered contenders by everyone, just wait until Kobe is 100%...Kobe - Shaq >>> Wade - Shaq. :-*
Wade + Odom > Kobe + Odom. I mean, just using your logic.
LMFAO!. Simply put, no. Wade wasn't even the leader on that Odom + Wade Miami team...LOL.
LMFAO! They won a playoff series, so which, by using your logic that means that combo is better.
Okay using that logic, Odom + Wade were better. Wade wasn't a factor on that team though. Out of that draft class, no one really knew who wade was till Shaq went there.
woa now, that's when wade was realized, it was in that playoff series, and even before that when wade would put up big number every once in a while
Take your Heat jersey off for a second, and realize that Wade + Odom are nowhere NEAR Kobe + Odom...unless you're as stupid as that other guy is.
did i say anything about kobe/odom , wade/odom? no jew loch i said wade's talents were realized in the playoffs of his rookie season that's when he broke out , that's when you started to see him on espn all the time
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Kobe is better than Wade but neither guy has seen much success when Shaq went down.
Those Laker teams were geared towards Shaq anchoring the middle, when he left the roster was changed to better suit Kobe.
Leading a team composed of rookies to being a rebound away from upsetting a 2nd seed is pretty much a success...And this year Lakers are pretty much considered contenders by everyone, just wait until Kobe is 100%...Kobe - Shaq >>> Wade - Shaq. :-*
Wade + Odom > Kobe + Odom. I mean, just using your logic.
LMFAO!. Simply put, no. Wade wasn't even the leader on that Odom + Wade Miami team...LOL.
LMFAO! They won a playoff series, so which, by using your logic that means that combo is better.
Okay using that logic, Odom + Wade were better. Wade wasn't a factor on that team though. Out of that draft class, no one really knew who wade was till Shaq went there.
woa now, that's when wade was realized, it was in that playoff series, and even before that when wade would put up big number every once in a while
Take your Heat jersey off for a second, and realize that Wade + Odom are nowhere NEAR Kobe + Odom...unless you're as stupid as that other guy is.
did i say anything about kobe/odom , wade/odom? no jew loch i said wade's talents were realized in the playoffs of his rookie season that's when he broke out , that's when you started to see him on espn all the time
That's not when he got his superstar exposure, whitey loc, that's when they realized he was an all-star caliber player...LOL@me educating Jake on his own team. :grumpy:
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fallacy #1 by NIK "wade did not become a star his rookie season " - no dude dwyane wade was in the public eye halfway through his rookie season, his stock rose even higher when the heat went to the playoffs and won the frist series and competed heavily vs indy, also he was selected to something called the us olympic team
fallacy #2 by NIK "wade average only 15 points during his rookie season AND this hardly qualifies as being a superstar- actually he averaged 16 points and for the record
magic johnson averaged 16 points per game in his prime in his fourth season
charles barkley averaged 14 points in his rookie season
scottie pippen averaged 16 points at one point in his career
jason kidd has averaged 16 points
tmac rose to stardom in toronto his third year when he averaged 15 points
karl malone was a star his rookie season and only averaged 15 points
kobe was a superstar his second year and he only averaged 15 points too
fallacy #3 by NIK "whitty loc" your don is mexican
wikipedia.org
Rookie Season
Selected fifth overall in the 2003 NBA Draft, Wade quickly emerged as a star on a relatively young Miami Heat team after averaging better than 16 points, 4 rebounds, and 4 assists in his rookie season. He further distinguished himself with outstanding performances in the 2004 NBA Playoffs, particularly against the Indiana Pacers in the Eastern Conference Semifinals. In the end, however, Wade's successful rookie season was somewhat overshadowed by the hype surrounding fellow rookies Carmelo Anthony and, in particular, LeBron James. Wade did earn unanimous selection to the NBA 2004 All-Rookie team and also finished 3rd in rookie of the year voting (behind James and Anthony). He also ranked in the top five among rookies in six major statistical categories, ranked second in field goal percentage, second in steals, third in scoring, third in efficiency rating (15.26), fourth in assists, fourth in minutes, seventh in blocks per game, 11th in rebounds per game, and 12th in free throw percentage.
As a testament to his success, Wade was chosen as a member of the USA's Olympic basketball team during the 2004 offseason. However, he had a limited role as most of the playing time was given to more experienced veterans. But with his defense, Wade was considered one of the few bright spots on a team that otherwise performed poorly by the standards of U.S. Olympics basketball, eventually finishing with the bronze medal. Wade averaged 7.3 points and 17.5 minutes in the eight games that the USA played in the Olympics. He also earned himself a number two rating in registering steals against Olympic opponents, averaging slightly more than two per game.
it's obvious somebody doesn't watch basketball
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fallacy #1 by NIK "wade did not become a star his rookie season " - no dude dwyane wade was in the public eye halfway through his rookie season, his stock rose even higher when the heat went to the playoffs and won the frist series and competed heavily vs indy, also he was selected to something called the us olympic team
fallacy #2 by NIK "wade average only 15 points during his rookie season AND this hardly qualifies as being a superstar- actually he averaged 16 points and for the record
magic johnson averaged 16 points per game in his prime in his fourth season
charles barkley averaged 14 points in his rookie season
scottie pippen averaged 16 points at one point in his career
jason kidd has averaged 16 points
tmac rose to stardom in toronto his third year when he averaged 15 points
karl malone was a star his rookie season and only averaged 15 points
kobe was a superstar his second year and he only averaged 15 points too
fallacy #3 by NIK "whitty loc" your don is mexican
wikipedia.org
Rookie Season
Selected fifth overall in the 2003 NBA Draft, Wade quickly emerged as a star on a relatively young Miami Heat team after averaging better than 16 points, 4 rebounds, and 4 assists in his rookie season. He further distinguished himself with outstanding performances in the 2004 NBA Playoffs, particularly against the Indiana Pacers in the Eastern Conference Semifinals. In the end, however, Wade's successful rookie season was somewhat overshadowed by the hype surrounding fellow rookies Carmelo Anthony and, in particular, LeBron James. Wade did earn unanimous selection to the NBA 2004 All-Rookie team and also finished 3rd in rookie of the year voting (behind James and Anthony). He also ranked in the top five among rookies in six major statistical categories, ranked second in field goal percentage, second in steals, third in scoring, third in efficiency rating (15.26), fourth in assists, fourth in minutes, seventh in blocks per game, 11th in rebounds per game, and 12th in free throw percentage.
As a testament to his success, Wade was chosen as a member of the USA's Olympic basketball team during the 2004 offseason. However, he had a limited role as most of the playing time was given to more experienced veterans. But with his defense, Wade was considered one of the few bright spots on a team that otherwise performed poorly by the standards of U.S. Olympics basketball, eventually finishing with the bronze medal. Wade averaged 7.3 points and 17.5 minutes in the eight games that the USA played in the Olympics. He also earned himself a number two rating in registering steals against Olympic opponents, averaging slightly more than two per game.
it's obvious somebody doesn't watch basketball
Read on, genius.
In the end, however, Wade's successful rookie season was somewhat overshadowed by the hype surrounding fellow rookies Carmelo Anthony and, in particular, LeBron James.
It's in your own fucking quote, LOL! Like I said, Wade wasn't a SUPERstar until his second season...Lamar Odom was the leader of that 2004 Heat team, and I'd even go as far as saying Caron Butler was the 2nd option, but no way was Wade some big sensation his rookie season...Of course, you'll argue this, but what can we do about a Heat fans bias? Oh, and I know you're "not" white... ;D
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^ so he wasn't a star because carmelo anthony and lebron james were bigger?
lets go back to 96'
allen iverson and stephon marbury outshined kobe bryant his rookie year...but that doesn't mean kobe wasn't a star that year
so because he wasn't the first option on his team, he can't be considered a superstar?
lets go back to 96'
la lakers. number one option Shaquille O'neal, number 2/3 options nick van exel/ eddie jones....kobe bench...
again like i said, Dwyane Wade broke out and became a superstar his rookie year
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^ so he wasn't a star because carmelo anthony and lebron james were bigger?
lets go back to 96'
allen iverson and stephon marbury outshined kobe bryant his rookie year...but that doesn't mean kobe wasn't a star that year
so because he wasn't the first option on his team, he can't be considered a superstar?
lets go back to 96'
la lakers. number one option Shaquille O'neal, number 2/3 options nick van exel/ eddie jones....kobe bench...
again like i said, Dwyane Wade broke out and became a superstar his rookie year
LOL. You act like you're slow...We'll, I dunno if you're acting. Lemme simplify things for you. Dwyane Wade WAS NOT a superstar in his rookie season. Hell, he was barely an all-star caliber player. Carmelo Anthony and LeBron James were the ones considered the future superstar rookies that year, Wade was completely overlooked. Kobe Bryant WAS NOT a superstar in his rookie season. I have no idea where you come up with these ludicrous arguments...:grumpy:
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wow do you even watch basketball? espn dedicated a whole thing about the draft class of 2003-2004 where wade melo and bron were all illuminated as superstars, yes melo and bron were hyped more but wade was a star after his rookie season there is no doubt about that. same with kobe (can't beleive you'd argue against this ..."laker fan") everyone was on both of their jocks, kobe killed it in the rookie game, remember the uproar in LA because kobe wasn't dubbed co MVP of the rookie game? remember how everyone was on his jock after the dunk contest , remember how he was treated when del harris would play him off the bench for jones, remember when people in the media started demanding he be started with jones at sg and kobe at sf. yeah again nik please stfu , wade was a superstar after his rookie season , same with kobe. you're tyring to act like they were mike miller or somethin'
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wow do you even watch basketball? espn dedicated a whole thing about the draft class of 2003-2004 where wade melo and bron were all illuminated as superstars, yes melo and bron were hyped more but wade was a star after his rookie season there is no doubt about that. same with kobe (can't beleive you'd argue against this ..."laker fan") everyone was on both of their jocks, kobe killed it in the rookie game, remember the uproar in LA because kobe wasn't dubbed co MVP of the rookie game? remember how everyone was on his jock after the dunk contest , remember how he was treated when del harris would play him off the bench for jones, remember when people in the media started demanding he be started with jones at sg and kobe at sf. yeah again nik please stfu , wade was a superstar after his rookie season , same with kobe. you're tyring to act like they were mike miller or somethin'
Please sock yourself in the chin for saying Kobe was a superstar in his rookie season...The end.
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you are now dubbed a "laker fan"
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you are now dubbed a "laker fan"
I think you're a little too slow and might be having trouble understanding the definition of a superstar. Smart guy, you can't be a superstar without being an all-star first. Understand yet? And don't get mad because you've been exposed as a Heat fan, takin' that shit out on me... :-*
Go read some Laker books, son...PeACe
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so that's the definiton of a superstar huh? care to back that up with some kind of facts supporting that claim or definition. magic johnson wasn't a superstar his first year then?
i don't know how someone could get a shoe contract with adidas their rookie season if they're not a superstar . i don't know how someone could get selected to an olympic team without being some kind of superstar. superstar doesn't mean nba all star NIK. chris paul is an nba superstar bro like it or not
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so that's the definiton of a superstar huh? care to back that up with some kind of facts supporting that claim or definition. magic johnson wasn't a superstar his first year then?
i don't know how someone could get a shoe contract with adidas their rookie season if they're not a superstar . i don't know how someone could get selected to an olympic team without being some kind of superstar. superstar doesn't mean nba all star NIK. chris paul is an nba superstar bro like it or not
LMAO! Wow, dude...you need to learn some shit. There are steps you take before becoming a superstar. Not every great player becomes a superstar, LMAOOOO, you're making me die here. There's a star, an all-star, then the greatest achievment, known as superstar status...Unfortunately, you never learned this and probably never will, since you want to believe a rookie Kobe was a superstar...LMAO! PLEASE DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND STFU.
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again NIK where are these rules set in stone? you're drawing these conclusions from NBA ballerz a fucking 3rd rate basketball video game. where are these rules applied. and if these rules are set in stone then erase michael jordan and magic johnson as superstars in this league after their rookie seasons.
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again NIK where are these rules set in stone? you're drawing these conclusions from NBA ballerz a fucking 3rd rate basketball video game. where are these rules applied. and if these rules are set in stone then erase michael jordan and magic johnson as superstars in this league after their rookie seasons.
LMAO. I never even played NBA Ballerz and had no clue those were the levels in the game, that just goes to show ya it's something any basketball fan should know. you don't come right in the league and automatically become a superstar...There might be some rare exceptions, but Kobe and Wade definitely never broke those in their rookie season, and neither did Chris Paul...LOL@thinking superstar is not the highest status achieved, which takes time to reach...Anyone who knows the game knows this. ::)
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again NIK where are these rules set in stone? you're drawing these conclusions from NBA ballerz a fucking 3rd rate basketball video game. where are these rules applied. and if these rules are set in stone then erase michael jordan and magic johnson as superstars in this league after their rookie seasons.
LMAO. I never even played NBA Ballerz and had no clue those were the levels in the game, that just goes to show ya it's something any basketball fan should know. you don't come right in the league and automatically become a superstar...There might be some rare exceptions, but Kobe and Wade definitely never broke those in their rookie season, and neither did Chris Paul...LOL@thinking superstar is not the highest status achieved, which takes time to reach...Anyone who knows the game knows this. ::)
1. i've never played the damn game i don't know, i'm still asking where the fuck you're drawing these rules from....again NIK where are these rules set in stone
2. yes you can come in the league and automatically become a star
shaq did it
magic did it
bird did it
vince carter did it
michael jordan did it
lebron did it
hakeem did it
david robinson did it
malone did it
i could go on and on
3. superstar status doesn't necesarily mean you're averaging 30 points 20 rebounds , superstar status means you're BIG, you're a fan favorite you've got clout you've done shit. Dwayne Wade was on an olympic team, kobe bryant stormed all star week end, he heard kobe kobe kobe every city he was in, he landed a major shoe deal, wade helped win a playoff game , was all over espn, magazine covers, Dwayne Wade was a known name in the sports world his rookie season, Kobe Bryant was a known name in the sports world his rookie season.
4. superstar status isn't the highest level a player attains....hall of fame status is the highest level. Chancey is an NBA superstar....but he's not a hall of famer :nawty:
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LMAO at NIK for being a clown.
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again NIK where are these rules set in stone? you're drawing these conclusions from NBA ballerz a fucking 3rd rate basketball video game. where are these rules applied. and if these rules are set in stone then erase michael jordan and magic johnson as superstars in this league after their rookie seasons.
LMAO. I never even played NBA Ballerz and had no clue those were the levels in the game, that just goes to show ya it's something any basketball fan should know. you don't come right in the league and automatically become a superstar...There might be some rare exceptions, but Kobe and Wade definitely never broke those in their rookie season, and neither did Chris Paul...LOL@thinking superstar is not the highest status achieved, which takes time to reach...Anyone who knows the game knows this. ::)
1. i've never played the damn game i don't know, i'm still asking where the fuck you're drawing these rules from....again NIK where are these rules set in stone
2. yes you can come in the league and automatically become a star
shaq did it
magic did it
bird did it
vince carter did it
michael jordan did it
lebron did it
hakeem did it
david robinson did it
malone did it
i could go on and on
3. superstar status doesn't necesarily mean you're averaging 30 points 20 rebounds , superstar status means you're BIG, you're a fan favorite you've got clout you've done shit. Dwayne Wade was on an olympic team, kobe bryant stormed all star week end, he heard kobe kobe kobe every city he was in, he landed a major shoe deal, wade helped win a playoff game , was all over espn, magazine covers, Dwayne Wade was a known name in the sports world his rookie season, Kobe Bryant was a known name in the sports world his rookie season.
4. superstar status isn't the highest level a player attains....hall of fame status is the highest level. Chancey is an NBA superstar....but he's not a hall of famer :nawty:
LMAO! Hall of Famer is a status you recieve AFTER you retire...Dude, seriously, do you just argue cuz it's fun to get schooled? That's the only logical explanation for this. And again, there's a HUGE difference between a star and a superstar. If you think Kobe was labled an NBA superstar in his rookie saeason, then you are simply an idiot. Nothing is written in stone, dude, it's common logic. If you're willing to quit being stubborn and acknowledge that there's a difference between a superstar and a star, then maybe you're not a total idiot...But I have a feeling you're just gunna keep arguing...PeACe
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LMAO at NIK for being a clown.
If you're not gunna add anything useful, don't post...You're probably confused and have no idea what's going on around you. Do you think Kobe was a superstar in his rookie season?
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LMAO at NIK for being a clown.
If you're not gunna add anything useful, don't post...You're probably confused and have no idea what's going on around you. Do you think Kobe was a superstar in his rookie season?
Does your nose squeak when you squeeze it?
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LMAO at NIK for being a clown.
If you're not gunna add anything useful, don't post...You're probably confused and have no idea what's going on around you. Do you think Kobe was a superstar in his rookie season?
Does your nose squeak when you squeeze it?
If I blow my nose really hard...However, you just lost your chance of having any sort of credibility on this site. Another "WCC retard" added to the list. :D
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LMAO at NIK for being a clown.
If you're not gunna add anything useful, don't post...You're probably confused and have no idea what's going on around you. Do you think Kobe was a superstar in his rookie season?
Does your nose squeak when you squeeze it?
If I blow my nose really hard...However, you just lost your chance of having any sort of credibility on this site. Another "WCC retard" added to the list. :D
You're too hard up on the Lakers to have any credibility. Any discussion leads into you talking about Kobe or the Lakers.
So jump into you little ass car with the rest of the clowns and head to Lakersground
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LMAO at NIK for being a clown.
If you're not gunna add anything useful, don't post...You're probably confused and have no idea what's going on around you. Do you think Kobe was a superstar in his rookie season?
Does your nose squeak when you squeeze it?
If I blow my nose really hard...However, you just lost your chance of having any sort of credibility on this site. Another "WCC retard" added to the list. :D
You're too hard up on the Lakers to have any credibility. Any discussion leads into you talking about Kobe or the Lakers.
So jump into you little ass car with the rest of the clowns and head to Lakersground
Idiot. Once again, do you have any input on the topic at hand, or are you just a complete douche? We're not talking about the Lakers here, we're talking about the definition of the word superstar. I know it's hard for you to follow along, but just try...