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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: infinite59 on November 19, 2001, 12:14:58 PM
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Yo, should artists like Fabulous be able to run around talking "That's Gangsta" "I'm Gangsta" claiming that their music is "Gangsta". This has teenage girls out in the suburbs saying yo, "that's gangsta" and giggling........Yo, Fabulous ain't ever been in or been down with a gang. And I don't claim to be an expert on gang warfare, but as far as I know gang life is virtually non-existent on the East Coast when compared to the West. Ever since Pac died it's been accepted to be fake in the rap game. I'm tired of the cliches.
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you know what dogg, i agree with you alot. I think it shouldnt be used the way it has the last couple years. I hear people say "thats gangsta" all the time, and im like that aint gangsta homie. but if pac was still around and snoop was still down, then people wouldnt use it so freely(in the rap game)someone needs to step up in the rap game and show people whats up. IMO
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gangsta doesn't just mean the west coast interpretation of the word... scarface is gangsta.. but he wasn't in a gang...
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gangsta doesn't just mean the west coast interpretation of the word... scarface is gangsta.. but he wasn't in a gang...
true very true.. n thanks fo puttin the board up once again :-/
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i agree, im tired of hearin people usin tha word "gangsta" that have no clue wha a gangsta really like. i been hearin too many rapperz frum NY n out that way talkin boout "thas gangsta". i think Shine had a lot tah do wit that shit with that song he released. i think people now cant seperate tha difference between thugz n gangstaz. 2 different thingz. if u a real gangsta, u goan be thugged out. but jus because u thugged out, dont mean u a gangsta. i agree too that when pac was round, it was way more like e'ry region had they OWN style. tha west kept it gangsta, n e'rythang gangsta came frum tha west. NY was doin they own thang, down south was doin they own thang. now everybody think they gangsta. Shit, lil mo think she gangsta LOL. but that wasnt all cus of pac, its jus back then...we was way more seperated on shit. cus pac wasnt no gangsta nowayz. he was a thug yah, but not no gangsta.
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Shyne was in a gang so I guess he's a gangsta.
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Shyne was in a gang so I guess he's a gangsta.
thats gangsta ;D
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i could care less if Shyne waz in a gang, im jus sayin i think hez a big reason why people frum tha east usin that term. besidez....NY gangbangin. LOL "thas gangsta" huh? Thatz bomedy! lol
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I think thesee cats that use the term(when they aint) ruins the pleasure of listening to gangsta rap.Cant they just rhyme about everyday things that really accure to them?Come on,dont even come in here and say ya banginn when ya rap like mase....
Speaking of these fake ass cats,P.Diddy uses the term....That really done crank my style.
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Shit, lil mo think she gangsta LOL.
Yo, when Lil Mo starts claimin gangsta you know that hip-hop is being exploited in the worst way. Rap is now a mockery of itself. 2pac wasn't a gansta, but what he did was called out fake muthafucka's in the game. He would've never let Master P, DMX, Ja Rule, Trick Daddy and all them get away with making a mockery of the game. Whether that be claimin to be a thug, gangsta, whatever the case may be.
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i feel u on that shit infinite. cept P'z name bein mentioned. i cant stand hiz music no more. but i cant hate on that man. n i think pac wouldnt have eitha. but who knowz. but yah, ja rule, dmx, n trick....yah....them fake azz thugz gotta get gone. at least Jayo finally callin out Jay-Z tho. itz about damn time...
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you guys take rap way too seriously. the only rap affiliated people that can be labelled as being even remotely 'close' to gangta status are suge, master p, puffy, jay-z etc and me. the reason being is that these people control their business, they got millions, dont take orders and came from the bottom.
rappers are just having fun saying gangsta, its a trendy thing to do - whats up with that?
fabolous is from bk - 'he's gangsta' if you got a problem go to bk and holla. i garantee that you'll go back to bell air with a purple and blue body and stripped down naked with just one sock left on. thats enough said.
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you guys take rap way too seriously. the only rap affiliated people that can be labelled as being even remotely 'close' to gangta status are suge, master p, puffy, jay-z etc and me. the reason being is that these people control their business, they got millions, dont take orders and came from the bottom.
rappers are just having fun saying gangsta, its a trendy thing to do - whats up with that?
fabolous is from bk - 'he's gangsta' if you got a problem go to bk and holla. i garantee that you'll go back to bell air with a purple and blue body and stripped down naked with just one sock left on. thats enough said.
Yo, if Puffy is gangsta, then Bill Gates is gangsta. According to your line of reasoning.
'Gangsta' does not mean powerful, or having money, women, cars, etc., or even being hard, how it ever got confused with those things is beyond me.
'Gangsta' by definition is a member of a gang of criminals.
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'being even remotely close to gangsta status - do you listen to my music or just skim through it (jay-z).
puffy is from the ghetto and has probably got some connections - bill gates isnt from the ghetto and has pc and monitor connections.
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NY gangbangin. LOL
what are you laughing at? how old are you? NYC has gangs till this day. they don't gangbang like LA but they are still out here. im not talking about the bloods and crips out here in NYC, i'm talking about the orginal gangs like the savage nomads and the savage skulls, the black spades, the cling a lings, the unknowns, young lords and gangs like that..i agree fabolous is not a "gangsta" per se, but neither is dr. dre. and he uses gangsta all the time.. anyway s'all good..just my 2 cents..one
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from day 1 nyc is pure gangsta.
infinite59 - how do you know if fabolous has been in a gang or not?
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'being even remotely close to gangsta status - do you listen to my music or just skim through it (jay-z).
puffy is from the ghetto and has probably got some connections - bill gates isnt from the ghetto and has pc and monitor connections.
Every1 thinks puffy is from tha ghetto, he came from a well to do family, he only lived in harlem for a few years of his life, every summer he would live in amish country
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Man some of yall all on Puffs ass..Didnt think I ever would see that on this board :-/
"I started this gangsta shit,and this the muthafucking thanx I get?" Dr.Dre
Nuff said
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yo guys , the gangsta thang don't mean to pop up guns , slap bitches smoke crack wear flg or some , u can be gangsta in a lot of way
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and has pc and monitor connections.
well you claim to be a gangsta but you have a pc and monitor too, so whats up with that?
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'being even remotely close to gangsta status - do you listen to my music or just skim through it (jay-z).
puffy is from the ghetto and has probably got some connections - bill gates isnt from the ghetto and has pc and monitor connections.
Man puffy's not from the ghetto..the hell you talkin about?
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what are you laughing at? how old are you? NYC has gangs till this day. they don't gangbang like LA but they are still out here. im not talking about the bloods and crips out here in NYC, i'm talking about the orginal gangs like the savage nomads and the savage skulls, the black spades, the cling a lings, the unknowns, young lords and gangs like that..i agree fabolous is not a "gangsta" per se, but neither is dr. dre. and he uses gangsta all the time.. anyway s'all good..just my 2 cents..one
first off, im prolly older them most tha muhafuckaz on thiz board. im guessin. n second, i aint sayin therez NO gangz in NY. im sayin, itz way more intense out thiz way. therez a reason why gangsta flikz alwayz seem tah be based n kali. true, maybe they bangin NY. all im sayin iz, out thiz way...NY bangin iz looked at az a joke. n az far as puffy n jigga bein "gangsta" LOL. i neva thought id hear that in mah life. i believe Hammer got more gangsta in him then them 2!! geez...
"Niggaz bang in Ny now, cuz i dont knock it...thiz fool said he was a blood but had hiz rag in tha wrong pocket...."
~Jayo Felony~
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i agree for real the rem gangsta being misued....unless you can claim your set for rep dont say you gangsta...fabolous think he gangsta cuz he brings home a bitch with some champaign and go to the club ....whatever this muthafucc is a pranksta.....or even a wangsta....this shit is garbage...i would like him more if he just acted like himslef instead of puttin on this huge front...
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.. ok, people claim they're gangsta, when they're not .. that's cool ..
yet, you got 100000 other muthafuckas in rap claimin they're killers & shit, "Oh I shoot 50 cunts a night" or whatever, and nobody jumps on their nuts for that? please. its music, its for E-N-T-E-R-T-A-I-N-M-E-N-T, it aint meant to be taken seriously !
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I live in Detroit, and there is hella many gangs up in here, i dunno if its different than NY, but there is definetly gangs (Bloods, Crips, Latino, etc.) in ever large city nowadays, and even in farm rural cities and shit...And there has been Bloods and Crips in Detroit for as long as i can remember, and im 17 turnin 18, and Bloods and Crips was as big then as it is now...I dunno if B & C's just didnt make it to NY for awhile or what, or if it just isnt as big as it is in most cities or what...Even in Toledo (a city witta bout 400,000/half a mill. livin in it, a south of Detroit) has always had Bloods & Crips in it...
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"Niggaz bang in Ny now, cuz i dont knock it...thiz fool said he was a blood but had hiz rag in tha wrong pocket...."
~Jayo Felony~
Crips & Bloods rep different ways in different Cities son...it aint universal...here (in Detroit) Crips rep to the left and Bloods to the right, and in Toledo its just the opposite...
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Crips & Bloods rep different ways in different Cities son...it aint universal...here (in Detroit) Crips rep to the left and Bloods to the right, and in Toledo its just the opposite...
That just proves what Jayo is talking about. Most of the Bloods and Crips outside of Cali are just fake replicas that don't even know the history of the gangs that they are trying so hard to be like. They probably seen Colors too many times and it got to there head. I'm sure they have hella heart and are down for a 187 but they still ain't authentic real Ru'z or True'z. Unless REAL Crips/Bloods migrated to those cities and started their own respective sets which has happen in Little Rock, Seattle, Denver, New Orleans, and Houston.
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Yo, when Lil Mo starts claimin gangsta you know that hip-hop is being exploited in the worst way. Rap is now a mockery of itself. 2pac wasn't a gansta, but what he did was called out fake muthafucka's in the game. He would've never let Master P, DMX, Ja Rule, Trick Daddy and all them get away with making a mockery of the game. Whether that be claimin to be a thug, gangsta, whatever the case may be.
TRUE... Cats like Fabolous shouldn't even touch this word...
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you guys take rap way too seriously. the only rap affiliated people that can be labelled as being even remotely 'close' to gangta status are suge, master p, puffy, jay-z etc and me. the reason being is that these people control their business, they got millions, dont take orders and came from the bottom.
rappers are just having fun saying gangsta, its a trendy thing to do - whats up with that?
fabolous is from bk - 'he's gangsta' if you got a problem go to bk and holla. i garantee that you'll go back to bell air with a purple and blue body and stripped down naked with just one sock left on. thats enough said.
Sorry G. but I'm a BROOKLYN nigga too... I live in Bushwick, Brooklyn, 2 mns away from East New York (and you don't wanna fuck with East NY, trust me) and 5 mns away from Bedford-Stuy/Marcy (home of Big and Jay). It doesn't mean I'm gangsta... Fabolous ain't harder than the average cat in my neighborhood (his hood ain't even tough anyway)...
However, I understand your point to some extent, coz "gangsta" is a cultural trend right now. It doesn't mean that it shouldn't be "respected" since it does have deeper connotations... And, Jigga ain't as gangsta as you think, man. Jigga was a street hustler just like countless guys right on my block. He's real but it doesn't mean he's "gangsta"... There's ONLY ONE gangsta in Hip Hop (and he shoudn't be part of Hip Hop anyway coz he's wayyyy too GANGSTA): that's SUGE MUTHAFUCKIN' KNIGHT... All those other guys are businessmen... They can be real, from the street, ghetto, whatever, but they ain't GANGSTA... And again, when Fabolous talks about being gangsta, even if it's trendy, it's still a muthafuckin' problem...
PS: As for PUFFY, he's a coward, with zero street credibility whatsoever. I can't believe you even mention his name. Puff got NO respect from nigga I know in NY. He's a GREAT businessman, no question, but he's pussy. Don't get it twisted son... Again, SUGE is the ONLY gangsta in this rap game, whether it's a good thing OR a bad thing...
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That just proves what Jayo is talking about. Most of the Bloods and Crips outside of Cali are just fake replicas that don't even know the history of the gangs that they are trying so hard to be like. They probably seen Colors too many times and it got to there head.
AMEN!!!!!!
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if it came down to it puffy could get a nigga merked in a day or 2, he aint tough, but his power is gangsta - gangstas employ/pay thugs to do their dirty work.
you guys sound like its cool to be blood or crip. those niggas are hopeless cowards who hang out in packs and aint got nothing better to do. at least hustlers try to make their lives better for the future.
i can tell most people in here are from the suburbs and pose in the mirror doing the crip walk.
p.s - don't hate on the o.g - FABOLOUS.
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i agree the term "GANGSTA" is tossed around too freely now. the real gangstas are NWA. and the real Bloods and Crips in LA.
Peace
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i aint recall nobody sayin it waz cool tah be blood or crip. cool or not, itz jus fact. tha resta tha cuntry seem tah think itz cool, in kali...dont nobody bang tah be COOL. itz jussa
lifestyle that prolly neva gonna end. itz been goin on before most of tha muhafuckaz on thiz message board were born. so when bitchazz muhafuckaz like puffy, fabolous n otha foolz throw tha word around....itz almost takin as an insult tah tha muhafuckaz who lost they livez tah represent they set. whetha u think itz cool, dumb..or whateva. its not a TREND in kali so yah, we take summa that shit mo serious. it seem like too many people on hea, cant seperate tha difference between a gangsta....n a business man. jus cus u callin shotz in yo bizness....dont make u gangsta. oh yah, n suge aint tha only gangsta in tha game, pleaze believe. true enuff, he a real muthafuckin g, but he aint tha only one. any of these rapperz out thiz way representin a set on they record, they gangsta. once they throw up a set, they made they choice cus no matter where they go, thas wha people goan think they r. n anybody who know how shit goez down out hea wouldnt be dumb enuff tah claim a gang they aint frum. even snoop, him claimin 20'z....whetha he crip or not, he goan hafta watch hiz back fah bloodz AND cripz tha same....
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gangstas make money for themselves - bloods and crips are lost niggas who will never advance.
back in the day when i thought kurupt (for example) was 'gangsta' i was like whoaaa. when cnn made that la la diss with the video of daz and kurupt lookalikes getting tossed out of the window i was like 'watch what kurupt does now' then kurupt the fruitcake bows down and asks for nore to feature on his kuruption album. basically kurupt the fruitcake was shook ever since their tour bus got sprayed when they was shooting the ny ny set. don't forget kurupt the dogg pound 'gangsta' bowed down to dmx when he got confronted by him.
there are rappers who are legitimate thugs but there aint no gangsta rappers out there except FABOLOUS - don't hate, just admit it!
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there are rappers who are legitimate thugs but there aint no gangsta rappers out there except FABOLOUS - don't hate, just admit it!
U probably realize how DUMB that statement is... At least I hope u do...
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TRAY DEEE IS A MUTHAFUCCIN GANGSTA!!!!
compare him to PD or FABOLOUS and you got some cabbage patch kids....
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gangstas make money for themselves - bloods and crips are lost niggas who will never advance.
I'm 100% sure you don't live in Los Angeles. Bloods and Crips control a lot of the drug trade here therefore making money for themselves. The Mexican Mafia and the Cartels obviously control the whole thing but ALL Bloods and Crips aren't just "ignorant" niggas kickin' it on the corner throwin' up gang signs to every car that passes by. They got their respective "hustlers" too. They driving in X5's, Escalades, Navigators, Lexus R300's and what not. You haven't witnessed this so how can you generalize that all Bloods and Crips are just some "petty" thugs. I know for a fact that most of the WANNA-BE Bloods and Crips who replicate these gangs are just some fools who snatch purses and sell dime bags of weed but there are a lot of the REAL ones that push major weight.
Fabolous is a whore! I don't know if he's gangsta or not but he still a whore. "Don't hate, just admit it!"
Puffy ain't a gangsta but his father was! Pretty Melvin!
Scarface is a gangsta and it has been proven!
[I'm soon to be reppin' H-Town y'all! Got to represent!]
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I'm 100% sure you don't live in Los Angeles. Bloods and Crips control a lot of the drug trade here therefore making money for themselves. The Mexican Mafia and the Cartels obviously control the whole thing but ALL Bloods and Crips aren't just "ignorant" niggas kickin' it on the corner throwin' up gang signs to every car that passes by. They got their respective "hustlers" too. They driving in X5's, Escalades, Navigators, Lexus R300's and what not. You haven't witnessed this so how can you generalize that all Bloods and Crips are just some "petty" thugs. I know for a fact that most of the WANNA-BE Bloods and Crips who replicate these gangs are just some fools who snatch purses and sell dime bags of weed but there are a lot of the REAL ones that push major weight.
Word son, but its like that in most large inner cities, cuz i've lived in south-side Chicago for for 2 or so years and its the same as Detroit (where i live), and Atlanta (where i've visited family for a few months at a time). They are basically the same as how you're describing LA, yes gangbangin' started there, and is the biggest there... but U dont gotta go to LA to see "real" bangers, most inner cities got 'em or have had 'em for some time....
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Word son, but its like that in most large inner cities, cuz i've lived in south-side Chicago for for 2 or so years and its the same as Detroit (where i live), and Atlanta (where i've visited family for a few months at a time). They are basically the same as how you're describing LA, yes gangbangin' started there, and is the biggest there... but U dont gotta go to LA to see "real" bangers, most inner cities got 'em or have had 'em for some time....
I know there are "real" gangs in every large inner-city and I'm sure that gangs from L.A. have migrated to cities across America in the 80's to start up businesses and their own sets. Other large cities also have their own respective super-gangs such as in Chicago where the gangbangin' scene is just as big as it is in L.A. I'm sure you know the Vice Lords and BGD's since you lived there. They're influence is huge in the Mid-West. I'm sure that most gang members in every inner-city are "real" but some of them are just mere replicas of images they see on television, specifically the Blood/Crip phenomena where youths have just seen movies or news coverage on these gangs and then one day decided to wear a red or blue rag, therefore making them "fake" in that context. An example is the Blood/Crip emergence in N.Y. None of those Bloods/Crips in N.Y. have any affiliation with the members in L.A. They even admit that they saw news coverage and movies on these gangs and got together a group of people and decided to call themselves Bloods because the name Bloods strikes fear into people thanks to the reputation of the original Bloods from Los Angeles.
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gangstas make money for themselves - bloods and crips are lost niggas who will never advance.
back in the day when i thought kurupt (for example) was 'gangsta' i was like whoaaa. when cnn made that la la diss with the video of daz and kurupt lookalikes getting tossed out of the window i was like 'watch what kurupt does now' then kurupt the fruitcake bows down and asks for nore to feature on his kuruption album. basically kurupt the fruitcake was shook ever since their tour bus got sprayed when they was shooting the ny ny set. don't forget kurupt the dogg pound 'gangsta' bowed down to dmx when he got confronted by him.
there are rappers who are legitimate thugs but there aint no gangsta rappers out there except FABOLOUS - don't hate, just admit it!
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ROTFLMAO!
Where you get that? That's funny as fuck!
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ROTFLMAO!
Where you get that? That's funny as fuck!
From this other fourm...yea shit is pretty funny..
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im cracking up at all guys getting mad at the o.g fabolous.
i don't think you guys have seen fabs new video. if you havent then you have no idea of how much of an o.g fab really is. it's all there - the girls, the cars, the dollar.
'YAAALLL KNOWWW WHOOOOOS KEEPING IT GANGSTA, WE COME THROOOUGH KEEPING IT GANGSTA'
iv'e said it before and i'll say it again - aint no rapping gangstas. you guys need to snap out of that fantasy.
have fun - you need a hug.
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im cracking up at all guys getting mad at the o.g fabolous.
aint no rapping gangstas.
There are alotta rappin' gangstas...Snoop is STILL a Crip, he aint on the street puttin' in work,and slangin', but he is still a Crip...U dont leave whenever u feel like it...Same goes for Daz, Kurupt, DJ Quik, they're all still Crips/Bloods, but they aint killin' each other, but they are still in the gang, they just distanced themselves...And there is alotta underground rappers that are in gangs, that are still livin' that lifestyle, cuz they are still broke...EX Detroits own X-Blocc Crips have they own record label and 2 CD's...and they aint famous, and they still do the same shit as they did before they had a record...