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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Ro J. Simpson on November 08, 2001, 02:22:11 PM
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the mothafuckin european MTV music awards..
what a load of bullshit
A. Outkast were nominated for best R n B
B. Jay Z wasnt even nominated for hip hop, fuckin eminem won
C. the beat to family affair was 'played' rather than just let running in the background..so the fuckin german amphitheatre goober orchistra took credit rather than dre..bull motha fuckin shit yo
peace
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You act as if Eminem isnt worthy--newsflash--he is.
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i dont act as if he isnt..
anyway what the fuck are you talking about?
jay z shud be up there if not winnig it..check yo facts homie or home girl he shudnt hav won..2 b honest he shudnt of won it at all..big deal he made several appearances on devils nite..who gives a fuck..jay defiantly deserves to win
and who the fuck are you to come with all this pre teen'wateva'bullshit.you sound like a dude straite off the bring it on film set..you and eminem can both suck my dick for now
peace
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i dont act as if he isnt..
anyway what the fuck are you talking about?
jay z shud be up there if not winnig it..check yo facts homie or home girl he shudnt hav won..2 b honest he shudnt of won it at all..big deal he made several appearances on devils nite..who gives a fuck..jay defiantly deserves to win
and who the fuck are you to come with all this pre teen'wateva'bullshit.you sound like a dude straite off the bring it on film set..you and eminem can both suck my dick for now
peace
ha ha ha ha why does jay-z deserve to win over eminem......all of jay-z's videos suck and are nothing special than what's already out.....Stan was one of the most original videos ever ...anyways take out blueprint and go to "renegades" and you'll see why eminem beat jay-z...
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Jay Z over Eminem?...............LOL...............Dats a good one.
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I wonder how many of you would be saying this if eminem wasn't affiliated with Dre !!!
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people i put over jay-z.....that arn't affiliated with dre
crooked I
pharoh monch (yeah i spelt it wrong but i don't give a...)
mos def
talib kweli
chino xl
nas
andre 3000
evidence
cage
necro
kool keith
kook g rap
gza
ghost face killah
method man
redman
inspectah deck
cormega
prodigy
havoc
afu ra
brotha lynch hung
del
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiit i can go on and on and on and on
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That is funny that you put Crooked I over Jay Z; what the fuck has he ever done. Sure he is tight, but he is about six dope(aiight, 3 are merely good) albums behind Jay Z!
Furthermore, havoc ain't that dope on the mic, he is alright and nothing more(ask any Eastcoast head). And Prodigy got served, and has the wackest comeback diss EVER. He is dope but the truth is he aint touchin Jay Z (and i don't even really like Jayz but respect IS due).
And how many Necro songs you heard? Cuz damn he has a lot of wack shit!
The only people touchin Jay Z at the moment on your list are: Chino, Ghostface, Cormega ,Del, Talib, and maybe Andre. And that is stretching it, cuz like it or not Jay Z is on top right now. The reason he is so dope cuz he can do commercial shit and still drop dope lyrics and quality product.
As far as videos, ya his shit sucks usually, but the guy right now is the King of rap. I hate even admitting that shit, but he combines everything you need all in one, and that is why he prolly is the best right now.
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That is funny that you put Crooked I over Jay Z; what the fuck has he ever done. Sure he is tight, but he is about six dope(aiight, 3 are merely good) albums behind Jay Z!
Furthermore, havoc ain't that dope on the mic, he is alright and nothing more(ask any Eastcoast head). And Prodigy got served, and has the wackest comeback diss EVER. He is dope but the truth is he aint touchin Jay Z (and i don't even really like Jayz but respect IS due).
And how many Necro songs you heard? Cuz damn he has a lot of wack shit!
The only people touchin Jay Z at the moment on your list are: Chino, Ghostface, Cormega ,Del, Talib, and maybe Andre. And that is stretching it, cuz like it or not Jay Z is on top right now. The reason he is so dope cuz he can do commercial shit and still drop dope lyrics and quality product.
As far as videos, ya his shit sucks usually, but the guy right now is the King of rap. I hate even admitting that shit, but he combines everything you need all in one, and that is why he prolly is the best right now.
1. c'mon now lyrically jay-z can NOT touch crooked i, even at his best...let's be realistic here
2. granted mobb deep might not be as dope to some , so this is in the gray area cuz i personally think Prodigy and Havoc's best is better than jay-z's best
3. Necro is pretty tight and alot better than jay-z
IMO i got/had his ep i need drugs and heard like a ton of singles he's put out and i'm more impressed with this jewish white dude than i am with jay-z
4. he's only "king of rap" becuase it's a media ploy so many of his people at def jam and rocafella are/have been praising him as the best becuase they say so, also he sales becuase he bites off what's already popular (a TRUELY good artist shouldn't have to bite off anyone) i HONESTLY don't see what's so lyrically great about jay-z, i just don't see it, he's only as good as snoop and kurupt are now, and most of his dope lines sound like Biggie knock offs....i'm not hating i'm just telling it how i see it
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Em was the only artist that deserved an award last night. Fuck, that dickweed Craig David took most of the light anyways, he's gonna become even mo' bigheaded than he already is!
Yeah, Jake I agree wit u bout Crooked I (most of tha others too) & i'd like to point out that even though he hasn't accomplished much YET every single appearence he's come correct, he hasn't slacked on one track, he's a real mofo.
Jay-Z makes alot of records an' appearences for tha hell of it most time. IMO Jay-Z can write but when it comes to quality alot of it is jus' average.
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Battle Dogg sorry lad u have been buzzed like.
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ive been buzzed?..what the fuck does that mean..i mean im from the U.K homie and i dont know whats up with that..but all u get is no love from a D12 fan after all i just dissed em..didnt i?..well that didnt make sense and it was wrong....(just like your D12 quote in your signature..."and you get AMPED to do shit"
check it homie...
Jake..you are putting Cage above Jay?, Crooked I?, evidence, kool keith?, brotha lynch hung? afu ra?...ok cage..done some good work..i love cage but u seriously cant put him above jay..crooked I? thats laughable, evidence? yeah his shit with dilated peoples is dope specially this new joint expansion team..but he's not as strong as jay lircally..pick up th new DP lp ull see what i mean, kool keith? cmon now get serious..afu ra? body of the life force is one of my favourite albums..but!..he's dropped 1 album..thats not good enuff and maybe some E.P's so no!..brotha lynch hung? im not even going to bother to argue Jay'z case..
peace
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the awards were straight bullshit....
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Ofcourse Brotha Lynch Hung is over Jay Z............Lynch is a Lyrical Master..........
But I dunno bout Havoc or Del..........Tha rest I agree wit.
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I wonder how many of you would be saying this if eminem wasn't affiliated with Dre !!!
Hmm.....I Wonder. ::)
Battle-Dogg Jay-Z Performed Two Tracks On Stage So It Wasnt Like He Wasnt Recognised. Plus In Europe RnB Is Usually Affiliated With Urban Music So Therefore OutKast Could Be Up For That Award. Have You Ever Listened To Radio 1's RnB Chart. Theres Lots Of Hip Hop On There. Next Thing Jay-Z Didnt Even Deserve To Be Entered Into Best Hip Hop Act. Eminem Deserved That More Then Anyone In Hip Hop At The Moment, And Lets Face It Emnem Was The Only One Who Was Ever Gonna Win It.Oh And, Everyone On BigJakes List Is Better Then Jay-Z Other Then Method Man. (I Think Methods Overrated)
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IT WAS PAINFULLY OBVIOUS LISTENING TO THE TRACK "RENEGADE" THAT JAY-Z ISN'T EVEN IN THE SAME LEAGUE AS EMINEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Big JAke, i feel what you are saying as i don't even like jay Z but i still gotta give him props cuz he has the charisma, flow, and best wordplay for a guy that is so commercial. The only other guy combining all this shit is ......Eminem. I'm just saying, all around not too many can touch Jay Z.....PEACE
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I'm just saying, all around not too many can touch Jay Z
Kool G Rap Is Probably The Dopest All Rounder Ever. Nas Is Up There Aswell.
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There's tons of emcees better than Jigga.. but in terms of commercial emcees... not really. I'd still prefer to see him rhyming like he did back in the day... but I'm probably the only one.
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There's tons of emcees better than Jigga.. but in terms of commercial emcees... not really. I'd still prefer to see him rhyming like he did back in the day... but I'm probably the only one.
Eminem Is Doper Then Jay-Z And He's Commercial. Like You Said Before He's Probably The Only One Though. And Your Not The Only One Who Wants Jigga To Go Back To Rhyming From In The Day. Jigga Was Tight Then.
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im really sicka jay z AND eminemz ass. but, on tha mic...jay z dont compare. hell jay z dont compare tah too mucha anythang these dayz. hez trash on tha mic. he got sum nice beats on his songz, good dance songz basically. but he on puffy status tah me. not no rapper. mostly pop. i think id respect tha muhafucka more if hiz ass aint try tah put out that fake-thug shit. i mean fah real....doez anybody hea think jigga iz thugged out?!? haha. geez...
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i haven't felt Jay-Z ever really..
i pump Big Pimpin' every summertime.. but that's only coz of the beat..
i can't stand his flow.. it's so .... boring ? it's as if there's no passion.. he's like he's just rapping as if there's no beat to flow to.. and like he's just reading it off the page.. i can understand why people listen to him.. i'm just not feelin' him.. don't hate on me..
eminem rips it on renegade.. jay z spoils it.
Peace.
Dominator.