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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Halu Sination on December 27, 2006, 06:49:58 PM
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i remember last year when lakers were interested in acquiring ron artest, several fans hated the idea of throwing kwame into the mix of players the lakers would have to give up, because many thought he deserved a chance to develop on the lakers.
he's become a much-needed defensive presence for the lakers, and he stepped it up big time in the play-offs and played a larger role against the phoenix suns. but i'm still very skeptical on how much he will actually improve, tho i still think anything could be possible for him.
wut do yall think?
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It's a toss up. I mean he's a good defensive player and has a nice inside presence. But at the age of 24 (and 6 years in the league) there are some things I expect from him. Like being able to catch the ball, make layups, and not making dumb fouls. With Phil Jackson behind him he has a great chance though. I hope he becomes the player we're all hoping for.
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^ yeah, i definitely agree. also, for a guy who doesnt do too much playmaking, he seems to be pretty turnover prone
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Kwame Brown will probably be the greatest NBA player ever when it's all said and done. Anybody who doesn't realize that doesn't know basketball.
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^^Stop smoking crack. Kwame has a chance at being an all-star in the next couple of years, but as of now he's already established himself as a good player and a very serviceable inside presence...I believe he will continue to improve, and probably even surpass that 15-10 average that was expected of him by Phil in the near future. At worst, he will remain a serviceble player and strong addition to have on the team...PeACe
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^^Stop smoking crack. Kwame has a chance at being an all-star in the next couple of years, but as of now he's already established himself as a good player and a very serviceable inside presence...I believe he will continue to improve, and probably even surpass that 15-10 average that was expected of him by Phil in the near future. At worst, he will remain a serviceble player and strong addition to have on the team...PeACe
LMAO at this idiot. You obviously have no basketball knowledge.
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^^Stop smoking crack. Kwame has a chance at being an all-star in the next couple of years, but as of now he's already established himself as a good player and a very serviceable inside presence...I believe he will continue to improve, and probably even surpass that 15-10 average that was expected of him by Phil in the near future. At worst, he will remain a serviceble player and strong addition to have on the team...PeACe
LMAO at this idiot. You obviously have no basketball knowledge.
Stop ruining threads or your posts will be deleted...PeACe
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^^Stop smoking crack. Kwame has a chance at being an all-star in the next couple of years, but as of now he's already established himself as a good player and a very serviceable inside presence...I believe he will continue to improve, and probably even surpass that 15-10 average that was expected of him by Phil in the near future. At worst, he will remain a serviceble player and strong addition to have on the team...PeACe
LMAO at this idiot. You obviously have no basketball knowledge.
Stop ruining threads or your posts will be deleted...PeACe
*trembles with fear*
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The only reason i ain't satisfacted about him is his big contract. I mean he doesn't have the same contract of Cook or Walton: he has a 7 mills per year one, if i'm correct. Huge.
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The only reason i ain't satisfacted about him is his big contract. I mean he doesn't have the same contract of Cook or Walton: he has a 7 mills per year one, if i'm correct. Huge.
Actually what Kwame is making isn't far off from what a lot of centers are getting paid. Kaman is getting 10 mil per and he's done nothing this season. Dalembert has a huge contract and has done nothing. Dampier is getting 10 per and he's just a role player. Nene has done nothing and he's getting 10 per. Adonal Foyle is garbage and he has a huge contract.
We only signed him for 3 seasons so it was a short term risk on our part. I don't think Kwame will turn into Karl Malone any time soon but he is already a solid role player. Contending teams need the role players that will do the dirty work, like guard the other teams best inside presence. Kwame's play against Dwight Howard last night and his play against Duncan and Yao earlier this year is reason why he's valuable to this team and why's he's getting paid the money he's getting paid.
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The only reason i ain't satisfacted about him is his big contract. I mean he doesn't have the same contract of Cook or Walton: he has a 7 mills per year one, if i'm correct. Huge.
Actually what Kwame is making isn't far off from what a lot of centers are getting paid. Kaman is getting 10 mil per and he's done nothing this season. Dalembert has a huge contract and has done nothing. Dampier is getting 10 per and he's just a role player. Nene has done nothing and he's getting 10 per. Adonal Foyle is garbage and he has a huge contract.
We only signed him for 3 seasons so it was a short term risk on our part. I don't think Kwame will turn into Karl Malone any time soon but he is already a solid role player. Contending teams need the role players that will do the dirty work, like guard the other teams best inside presence. Kwame's play against Dwight Howard last night and his play against Duncan and Yao earlier this year is reason why he's valuable to this team and why's he's getting paid the money he's getting paid.
True that.
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Kwame is very useful on the defensive end.. offensive wise he's still inconsistant but he had and will have good nights.. I think people just have to forget he was the number 1 of the draft and see he's now a solid role player instead of clowing him..
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The only reason i ain't satisfacted about him is his big contract. I mean he doesn't have the same contract of Cook or Walton: he has a 7 mills per year one, if i'm correct. Huge.
Actually what Kwame is making isn't far off from what a lot of centers are getting paid. Kaman is getting 10 mil per and he's done nothing this season. Dalembert has a huge contract and has done nothing. Dampier is getting 10 per and he's just a role player. Nene has done nothing and he's getting 10 per. Adonal Foyle is garbage and he has a huge contract.
We only signed him for 3 seasons so it was a short term risk on our part. I don't think Kwame will turn into Karl Malone any time soon but he is already a solid role player. Contending teams need the role players that will do the dirty work, like guard the other teams best inside presence. Kwame's play against Dwight Howard last night and his play against Duncan and Yao earlier this year is reason why he's valuable to this team and why's he's getting paid the money he's getting paid.
yea thats a very good point (altho i would say kaman is pretty useful), valuable centers are such a rarity nowadays that a lot of teams agree to signing them with big checks in fear that they won't be able to get anyone better.
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Wasent this guy billed as being perhaps the " next one"
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Wasent this guy billed as being perhaps the " next one"
Yeah till Jordan ruined his confidence.
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Wasent this guy billed as being perhaps the " next one"
Yeah till Jordan ruined his confidence.
More like ALL of Washington...LA is buldin' it back for him though. 8)
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Wasent this guy billed as being perhaps the " next one"
Yeah till Jordan ruined his confidence.
More like ALL of Washington...LA is buldin' it back for him though. 8)
Yeah he is getting better but I was wondering what Phil was doing calling him a pussy and meowing at him knowing the kid is fragile enough.
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Wasent this guy billed as being perhaps the " next one"
Yeah till Jordan ruined his confidence.
More like ALL of Washington...LA is buldin' it back for him though. 8)
Yeah he is getting better but I was wondering what Phil was doing calling him a pussy and meowing at him knowing the kid is fragile enough.
Jordan was trying some of Phil's psychological techniques, but he completely fucked it up...Phil actually knew what he was doing. LOL. It's all about context...PeACe
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Wasent this guy billed as being perhaps the " next one"
Yeah till Jordan ruined his confidence.
More like ALL of Washington...LA is buldin' it back for him though. 8)
Yeah he is getting better but I was wondering what Phil was doing calling him a pussy and meowing at him knowing the kid is fragile enough.
Jordan was trying some of Phil's psychological techniques, but he completely fucked it up...Phil actually knew what he was doing. LOL. It's all about context...PeACe
Jordan was just being his normal dickhead self.
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Kwame is lookin like a beast on the boards tonight. 10 already and it's just ALMOST half time.
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Kwame is lookin like a beast on the boards tonight. 10 already and it's just ALMOST half time.
Word...AND he went out for a while with a sprained wrist. :o
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Damn, close game against the Bobcats. We gotta win tonight. It's a must.
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:o Damn he's up to 15! His career high is 19...I think he'll break that tonight. If he would've made his free-throws he'd have 12 & 15 right now.
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On a side note... Kobe is going for the 50.. 8)
And Okafor has 17 rebs and running.. :o
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OT
Kobe missed two clutch shots :-\
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double OT :-\
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Okafor 18 rebounds
Felton 14 assists
Kobe 49 points
Big numbers.
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lol, the game was INTENSE but damn, kwame's turn-over at the end really fucked everything up. that was real disappointing (though luke's pass to kwame had more to do with the defense than kwame)
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Kwame's been butterfingers ever since I first saw him play.
That's one of those things that a scout looks at and says "hmm...he's only a 18 year old HS kid, he can easily improve that" but he STILL hasn't!
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That's one of those things that a scout looks at and says "hmm...he's only a 18 year old HS kid, he can easily improve that" but he STILL hasn't!
haha, so true. some people act like it's not a big deal, but his butterfingers constantly end up equating into some huge turn-overs in critical situations.
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He actually got over that the second half of last season, then they switched to the new ball and it started again...Hopefully he cuts down on the turnovers when the new ball comes back. :-\
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He actually got over that the second half of last season, then they switched to the new ball and it started again...Hopefully he cuts down on the turnovers when the new ball comes back. :-\
I don't give a fuck about the ball, there's no excuse for a 6'11 professional basketball player to drop that many passes & miss that many layups. I've always somewhat liked Kwame but watching him on the offensive end really makes me nervous.
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I donno what would be better....having Kwame and Bynum as we do, or having Kwandrew Brownum.....a 20 year old 7'1, solid frame big man who plays with heart, good at defense against any star big man in the league , can run up and down the court easy, gets good blocks, isn't scared to shoot, dunks the ball when it's thrown to him and doesn't drop the damm ball!!! Both of them need to develop, and it feels like it's things Kwame can do better than Bynum, mainly because of age and a bit more athleticism...but he still does dumb, annoying shit that Bynum doesn't do.
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^^Damn, you guys are exaggerating though...It doesn't happen THAT often any more. Kwame averages 1.9 turnovers, while someone like Yao Ming averages 3.8!...Yea, he's not been impressing us lately, but dude's still averaging about 9 points and 7 boards on 56% shooting, with over 1 block and 1 steal per game...That disappoints us, see how much we've come to expect out of Kwame? Dude's still young, I say he only continues growing from here...PeACe
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^^Damn, you guys are exaggerating though...It doesn't happen THAT often any more. Kwame averages 1.9 turnovers, while someone like Yao Ming averages 3.8!...Yea, he's not been impressing us lately, but dude's still averaging about 9 points and 7 boards on 56% shooting, with over 1 block and 1 steal per game...That disappoints us, see how much we've come to expect out of Kwame? Dude's still young, I say he only continues growing from here...PeACe
Thing is, turnovers alone don't show that he drops these balls. Usually, he'll still get the ball back..but he has messed up a LOT of easy dunks (well layups for him most of the time) because Kobe or Luke would throw him the ball off of a no look or whatever, and he would drop the ball, and by the time he picked it back up, the defender would be right there on him.
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^^Damn, you guys are exaggerating though...It doesn't happen THAT often any more. Kwame averages 1.9 turnovers, while someone like Yao Ming averages 3.8!...Yea, he's not been impressing us lately, but dude's still averaging about 9 points and 7 boards on 56% shooting, with over 1 block and 1 steal per game...That disappoints us, see how much we've come to expect out of Kwame? Dude's still young, I say he only continues growing from here...PeACe
Yao Ming's 3 turnovers also comes with 25 points, 9 rebounds, 2 assists, and 2 blocks on 52% shooting. I can live with that! I think eventually Kwame will get tired of people (rather it be fans or his peers) saying how he's a fuck up and he'll go out there and become the 10/10 Kwame that I'm hoping for.
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dude's been in the league how long? give him at least 2 or three more years before you start demeaning him
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^^Damn, you guys are exaggerating though...It doesn't happen THAT often any more. Kwame averages 1.9 turnovers, while someone like Yao Ming averages 3.8!...Yea, he's not been impressing us lately, but dude's still averaging about 9 points and 7 boards on 56% shooting, with over 1 block and 1 steal per game...That disappoints us, see how much we've come to expect out of Kwame? Dude's still young, I say he only continues growing from here...PeACe
Thing is, turnovers alone don't show that he drops these balls. Usually, he'll still get the ball back..but he has messed up a LOT of easy dunks (well layups for him most of the time) because Kobe or Luke would throw him the ball off of a no look or whatever, and he would drop the ball, and by the time he picked it back up, the defender would be right there on him.
yea, thats very true.
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dude's been in the league how long? give him at least 2 or three more years before you start demeaning him
How long? Ummm....01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06....damn that's five years. I don't ever talk down on him like that, and I know that he's still gettin better. But even ignoring the fact that he's a bust or near bust, it's just too much lil shit he does that will annoy the hell out of us....ESPECIALLY the fact that we know he could easily be a lot better, because most of his errors are mental and have nothing to do with his pure physical ability.
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LMAO@Jacob ...That was classic. But yea, he's improving. I think you guys just have the images of the last game stuck in your head, cuz he's honestly improved on it IMO and will only keep on improving...
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well, theyre officially using the old ball again. but the bad news, kwame just sprained his ankle. :-\