West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: I TO DA GEEZY on October 31, 2001, 02:50:57 AM
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who yall think iz tha better producer......
imo it gotta be warren....but it don mean everyone thinkz tha same.....
spit what yall thinkin"....
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G-Du fo sho.
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Warren G Without A Doubt. All Becuase Of That G Funk Shit, His Beats Are So Laid Back And Mellow. Recently I've Been Going Off Daz Dillinger.
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warren no doubt
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Equal.peace-Tanjint
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Da G Child fo sheezy...I never liked Daz all that much. On his newer shit, like RAW, I feel like his music is a lesser version of what Dre's shit would sound like today if Dre couldn't innovate after 1996. While Dre comes with the new 2001 futuristic shit, Daz does the same old tired ass 1992-1996 style over and over and over again.
Even before that, I always felt that the production on Dogg Food was distinctly shittier than the Chronic and Doggystyle, which is why I never believed it when hardcore Death Row groupies claimed that Daz did all of Dre's work. Whenever Dre left a record label, his sound left with him. After all, where are Yella, Daz, J-Flexx, and Barney Rubble now? Sure, they made a handful of tight tracks on their own (if that), but ain't none of them making serious bank and ain't nobody fucking wid 'em.
Warren G was always tight...Regulate G-Funk era, in my opinion, is one of the greatest records to come out from the west coast ever...I still love that album. Daz ain't done nuthin' like dat.
Just my opinion, so don't hate.
Peace.
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i'm kinda doubting daz's skills as of late notice how most of his highlights in producing either had- dre, quik, or mike dean behind them?
anyways i'd have to say warren g. warren is alot more consistant
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I feel Warren... Daz's skills lately are very repetive and not very aspiring. Of course I couldn't do better, but I can see that Daz needs to find himself a little better
-Big BpG
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Warren Gizzle.
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W-A Double R-E-N
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da regulator
-{bLaDe}
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Warren G, ive been hearin too much of Daz lately its kinda puttin me off, plus Warren got that G Funk sound goin on...
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damn, i cant believe nobody voted for...
DAZ!!!
He definitely gets my vote, i havent liked a warren g album since Regulate, and that includes the new one. He samples way too much, used to be cool, now it isnt.
even tho Daz keeps a similar sound, its a dope sound and i like it. and all his shit is from-scratch which is always a plus to me. DPG is my album of the year so far, Daz & Mike Dean = FIRE
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Daz's beats are stuck in the past...(Death Row's).
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^have you even heard Dillinger & Young Gotti? i dont hear one song on there that sounds like 'the old days'. shit, it doesnt even sound like Retaliation Revenge and Get Back, which was only 3 years ago. Granted, some of that can be attributed to Mike Dean but come on now.
I think some people here hate on daz purely because he isnt, or hasn't been rolling with Dre and Snoop. thats wack.
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^have you even heard Dillinger & Young Gotti? i dont hear one song on there that sounds like 'the old days'. shit, it doesnt even sound like Retaliation Revenge and Get Back, which was only 3 years ago. Granted, some of that can be attributed to Mike Dean but come on now.
I think some people here hate on daz purely because he isnt, or hasn't been rolling with Dre and Snoop. thats wack.
Mike Dean freshened his beats up big time, thats why the last DPG album sounded so fresh in my opinion. I don't give a fuck if Daz comes back with Dre & Snoop or not. Doesn't make a difference for me. Peace
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Daz by a tiny bit...Still got much love for Warren G, one of the greatests ever...
I just prefer Gangtsa beats over smooth, laid back beats, but they are both tight az fuck...
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Warren without a doubt. On Dogg Food Daz needed Dre to mix the beats and on Dillinger and Young Gotti he needed Mike Dean to do it. Those two are his best produced albums to date. I like Warren better cause his beats sound more laid back and he can go from gangsta to funky to back to G Funk beats. And beside, he don't need anybody mixing the beats. Just check out Return of the Regulator!!!!!! :o
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not to bash on daz here but dj quik mixed all his beats on ALL eyez on me too
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yea valid points but on the same token look at all the people Dre has been working with over the years, he's always had co-producers. not to take anythign away from Dre, hell no, but the same way everyone is quick to shoot down rumors that other people did Dre's work, you should give Daz the credit he obviously deserves.
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yeah good point too mr. loc but look at all the co producers he's worked with....all of them have produced sub par beats without him plus dre's co producers are only time savers, dre gives the instructions and mel man or whoever does it , i mean look at any dre solo cut like "u can't c me" and copare that to "keep their heads ringin'" which was co produced by sam sneed....same exact quality, so it's not like dre relys on co producers for quality or input....but has also mixed every single song he's ever produced (with the exception of a couple of tracks i think)
mixing a song is like the final word in a conversation, it's where all the bad parts of a song taken out and other parts are added in , it's how you layer a song also, like if you want the vocal to be the 5th layer and the bass to be the 1st layer and ect. so basically dre and dj quik were doing this for daz back in the day with all those classic daz produced songs, so like daz built something with his set of legos then dre and dj quik would come in and take out that yellow lego and add a green one, take out that lego man and add a lego pirate...y know what i'm saying that's the only thing i was saying, but it seems after daz stopped having dre and quik mix his songs the quality of his songs went down (revenge retaliation and getback) then hooked up with another renowned producer and came up again....it's just suspicious
but even if daz rely on other people (which i'm not saying is 100% of the time) i'll buy anything basically with his name on it becuase my range of enjoyment froma daz joint is from moderatly entertained to classicly enjoyed which is great
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Whoever said Dre's co-producer's make his tracks hot are dick heads. People say Mel-Man was the reason "2001" was so hot, cause he co-produced that album. Bull...look @ "Family Affair," "Nasty Mind" & "Put It On Me." Dre did those solo, and look @ "Dogg Named Snoop"...not the tightest beat...doesn't sound like Dre.
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Incog: hope you werent referring to me there. all i said was as quick as people are to disbelieve Dre doesnt do his own shit, you shouldnt assume daz doesnt do his shit y'know?
Jake: yea dogg i didnt need the Mixing for Beginners lecture lol but yea i get your point. but mixing and producing go hand in hand. you cant have one without the other, and Daz's shit is always dope to me no matter who mixes it. so he must be doing something right when he lays down the beat. even RAW which is the worst-mixed album he's been involved in (he mixed it solo) still knocked.
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Incog: hope you werent referring to me there.
Actually I wasn't. I didn't even think of what you said, I posted that after reading what Jake said. Peace.