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Title: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: Ðøšïå on January 14, 2007, 08:00:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4KX7SkDe4Q
Title: Re: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: Elevz on January 14, 2007, 08:32:00 AM
Re-playing/re-creating a sample isn't exactly stealing though, is it?
Title: Re: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: Meho on January 14, 2007, 08:46:54 AM
Even if he does, his beats are the shit at the moment, thats all I care about.
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Post by: Dubz on January 14, 2007, 09:05:17 AM
the european dude could at least try to contact geffen. if he just sits there waiting for something to happen, why should it?
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Post by: Chief on January 14, 2007, 10:20:52 AM
i dont buy it... but if it comes out to be true, i'll lose respect for timbo, credit should always be given.
Title: Re: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: Ðøšïå on January 14, 2007, 11:43:02 AM
Even if he does, his beats are the shit at the moment, thats all I care about.

you dont care if he is ripping off other producers? cheating is never the way to go...
Title: Re: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: Ðøšïå on January 14, 2007, 11:51:31 AM
here are the OG tracks..

http://www.limpninja.com/acidjazz/glenn_acidjazz.mp3 (http://www.limpninja.com/acidjazz/glenn_acidjazz.mp3)

http://www.limpninja.com/acidjazz/tempest_acidjazz.mp3 (http://www.limpninja.com/acidjazz/tempest_acidjazz.mp3)

Title: Re: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: Chief on January 14, 2007, 11:57:47 AM
the thing is the track could have been created 2 weeks ago for all we know, it was never published or officially released.

there is no proof posted of the songs existence in 2000.
Title: Re: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: Diabolical on January 14, 2007, 11:58:12 AM
^Very true.


Re-playing/re-creating a sample isn't exactly stealing though, is it?

It is if you don't credit/pay the original artist. There must be an easy explanation for it, how do we know the Finnish guy wrote all the music and didn't sample something else himself. It's a bit strange how out of all the people in the world who heard it, probably about 30 & that's being generous lol, that Timbo managed to hear it and make it a hit song.
Title: Re: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: Ðøšïå on January 14, 2007, 12:06:34 PM
^ yeah thats true. i guess we will see how this plays out.
Title: Re: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on January 14, 2007, 12:15:17 PM
^Very true.


Re-playing/re-creating a sample isn't exactly stealing though, is it?

It is if you don't credit/pay the original artist. There must be an easy explanation for it, how do we know the Finnish guy wrote all the music and didn't sample something else himself. It's a bit strange how out of all the people in the world who heard it, probably about 30 & that's being generous lol, that Timbo managed to hear it and make it a hit song.

maybe he sent timbo a beat cd, in a effort to get a job with him .
Title: Re: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: Chief on January 14, 2007, 01:18:31 PM
^nope, dudes are just strait out claimin the beat.
Title: Re: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: Diabolical on January 14, 2007, 04:04:20 PM
^Very true.


Re-playing/re-creating a sample isn't exactly stealing though, is it?

It is if you don't credit/pay the original artist. There must be an easy explanation for it, how do we know the Finnish guy wrote all the music and didn't sample something else himself. It's a bit strange how out of all the people in the world who heard it, probably about 30 & that's being generous lol, that Timbo managed to hear it and make it a hit song.

maybe he sent timbo a beat cd, in a effort to get a job with him .

If he did he must have some more, or at least the file on computer, so proving he owns the copyright will be easy.
Title: Re: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: Shallow on January 14, 2007, 08:29:00 PM
Timbaland's been stealing beats from Bollywood for years now. His whole sound is even less original than G Funk. At least when Dre took his style from the old funk records they sounded updated. The movie scores Timbaland would take sound just as polished as Timbo's versions.

Of course as a producer he is just supposed to get the best he can out of an artist and not be a composer. I don't care for his production but it's got nothing to do with whether or not he can compose or not because that's not his job. He's the type of producer that worries more about making those "hot tracks" for comercial use and clubs than making a complete album that comes together and makes sense, and says something artistic, both lyrically and musically. Those are the type of producers I prefer. Sadly you don't find any in hip hop, and you don't find many more anywhere else these days.
Title: Re: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: Chief on January 15, 2007, 06:27:47 AM
At least when Dre took his style from the old funk records they sounded updated.

 ::)
Title: Re: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: Shallow on January 15, 2007, 07:15:38 AM
At least when Dre took his style from the old funk records they sounded updated.

 ::)


You don't think the Chronic and Doggystyle sounded a lot more modern and slicker than the old Parliament Funk and George Clinton records? (I'm not saying the newer stuff was better art, just slicker production).
Title: Re: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: Sikotic™ on January 15, 2007, 03:41:14 PM
WHENEVER a producer hits it big, someone comes out of nowhere claiming that they deserve some compensation. Just like whenever a musician, athlete or any successful person makes it big, there's someone trying to take their credit.

Title: Re: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: Chief on January 16, 2007, 06:02:09 AM
At least when Dre took his style from the old funk records they sounded updated.

 ::)


You don't think the Chronic and Doggystyle sounded a lot more modern and slicker than the old Parliament Funk and George Clinton records? (I'm not saying the newer stuff was better art, just slicker production).

some of the songs dre sampled were pretty much exactly the same as the original. more similar than this accusation.
Title: Re: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: Matty on January 16, 2007, 07:35:48 AM
i'd have to strongly disagree with anyone who thinks that timbo's beats often sound too similar or the same to the samples he uses. i got a whole grip of mixtapes showing the samples he uses and he is extremely creative in the way he uses them, always layering extra instruments and complicated drum loops on top perfectly and completely transforming obscure melodies...
Title: Re: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on January 16, 2007, 11:49:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV2fTEeP6GM


Excellent job.  Timbo keep ripping them dudes, cuz I would have never heard this awesome shit before.  No samples used!
Title: Re: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: GimmeYourShoes on January 17, 2007, 11:46:27 AM
the thing is the track could have been created 2 weeks ago for all we know, it was never published or officially released.

there is no proof posted of the songs existence in 2000.

" "Acidjazzed Evening" competed in Oldschool Music Compo at Assembly 2000 in Helsinki, infront of more than 4000 people (voters) and won the competition. There are good documents on this." said Tempest

You can read more his comments regarding to AE plagirization at
http://digg.com/music/Timbaland_ripped_off_a_track_from_my_buddy

I hope he can stack enough money to sue Timbo's phony ass.
Title: Re: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: Chief on January 18, 2007, 05:00:13 AM
^look if dude did get his beat stolen, then he should try get some royalties off the beat. that's bullshit they wont sue because of the cost, if they take the case to a lawyer and the lawyer believes they have a strong case they will front the bill.

Title: Re: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: everlast1986 on January 29, 2007, 12:50:16 PM
Sounds like a bunch of crybabies to me. What he did has been done 100,000 times before. Almost everyone that samples does it.
Title: Re: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on February 03, 2007, 06:08:25 PM
lol they gave that dude some money under the table.
Title: Re: Timbo stealing beats..?
Post by: Chief on February 04, 2007, 10:24:16 AM
^huh?