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Title: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 17, 2007, 12:24:00 PM
Did anyone else just see this? When asked if Lebron could lead his team to a title he said NO, "he's a Nike creation", "I never saw the hype in this slam dunk MVP", "he's an akward looking jumpshooter who can't make a shot in the 4th quarter", etc etc etc.

I actually feel bad for Lebron after that. Although he made an excellent point that a lot of people seem to overlook: Lebron does have some great role players around him.
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 17, 2007, 12:27:29 PM
LeBron is good...It just kinda killed it for him when people started comparing him to Kobe, Jordan, etc. and even saying he was better at some point...Now it's Wade's turn.
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: Bay Area Jat on January 17, 2007, 12:31:29 PM
Skip Bayless is a fucking idiot i've been reading his articles in bay area newspapers for years and know how stupid he can be
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 17, 2007, 12:34:16 PM
Oh, and when asked if he could name 10 players better than Lebron he said: Nash, Duncan, Arenas, Kobe, McGrady, Carmello, Wade...ugh I forgot the rest. But he said Wade is the best player in the NBA and Nash was number 1 on his list.
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: PLANT on January 17, 2007, 12:34:36 PM
LeBron is good...It just kinda killed it for him when people started comparing him to Kobe, Jordan, etc. and even saying he was better at some point...Now it's Wade's turn.
Really? I never really heard people compare him at all to Kobe.  Mostly to Magic becuase of his size and passing ability.  At the end of the day, hes LeBron and 26, 6 & 6 is pretty fuckin good.  And at the end of the day, Kobe would not have won the titles without Shaq.  

Becuase I know you are about to suck off Kobe now and talk about all his championships.  Without Shaq, we'd all be sitting her saying what you just said "It just kinda killed it for him when people started comparing him to Jordan"
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: Bay Area Jat on January 17, 2007, 12:36:40 PM
LeBron is good...It just kinda killed it for him when people started comparing him to Kobe, Jordan, etc. and even saying he was better at some point...Now it's Wade's turn.
Really? I never really heard people compare him at all to Kobe.  Mostly to Magic becuase of his size and passing ability.  At the end of the day, hes LeBron and 26, 6 & 6 is pretty fuckin good.  And at the end of the day, Kobe would not have won the titles without Shaq.  
can we please not turn this into another fuckin lakers thread
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: d-nice on January 17, 2007, 12:37:13 PM
LeBron has time on his side. He will get better. Kobe improved over the years, he always had that instinct to take over big games, and early in his career he was not able to deliver in some games, but he got better and the rest is history. He will learn, he is only 22.
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: PLANT on January 17, 2007, 12:38:09 PM
LeBron is good...It just kinda killed it for him when people started comparing him to Kobe, Jordan, etc. and even saying he was better at some point...Now it's Wade's turn.
Really? I never really heard people compare him at all to Kobe.  Mostly to Magic becuase of his size and passing ability.  At the end of the day, hes LeBron and 26, 6 & 6 is pretty fuckin good.  And at the end of the day, Kobe would not have won the titles without Shaq.  
can we please not turn this into another fuckin lakers thread
I dont want to but NIK tried to bring up Kobe and say people compare LeBron to Kobe and I havnt really heard much of that comparison.
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 17, 2007, 12:42:52 PM
^ you really never heard that? People are always saying Lebron is almost as good as Kobe or as good as Kobe. Some idiots even go as far as to say he's better than Kobe or he's already on Jordan level.
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: Bay Area Jat on January 17, 2007, 12:45:11 PM
^ you really never heard that? People are always saying Lebron is almost as good as Kobe or as good as Kobe. Some idiots even go as far as to say he's better than Kobe or he's already on Jordan level.
if jordan had shaq he would have championship rings on his toes
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: PLANT on January 17, 2007, 12:45:25 PM
^ you really never heard that? People are always saying Lebron is almost as good as Kobe or as good as Kobe. Some idiots even go as far as to say he's better than Kobe or he's already on Jordan level.
as good as or better yeah Ive heard that, but as far as comparing their games, no not really.  Kobe was always compared to Jordan, and LeBron to Magic.
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: Don Jacob on January 17, 2007, 12:52:23 PM
i saw this on cold pizza too


he had

nash
kidd
kobe
melo
wade
dirk
duncan
gilbert
mcgrady
forgotting someone i know but then he added billips at the end
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 17, 2007, 12:57:40 PM
LeBron is good...It just kinda killed it for him when people started comparing him to Kobe, Jordan, etc. and even saying he was better at some point...Now it's Wade's turn.
Really? I never really heard people compare him at all to Kobe.  Mostly to Magic becuase of his size and passing ability.  At the end of the day, hes LeBron and 26, 6 & 6 is pretty fuckin good.  And at the end of the day, Kobe would not have won the titles without Shaq.  
can we please not turn this into another fuckin lakers thread


Seriously, what's his obsession? LOL. SO MANY PEOPLE were saying LeBron was the next Kobe when he was first coming out of high school...LMAO@PLANT going on about Kobe's titles. :laugh:
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: Sparegeez on January 17, 2007, 12:59:50 PM
Skip Bayless is a fucking idiot i've been reading his articles in bay area newspapers for years and know how stupid he can be

He's a bay area writer? On what newspaper does he write on? the Chronicle?
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 17, 2007, 01:01:05 PM
^ you really never heard that? People are always saying Lebron is almost as good as Kobe or as good as Kobe. Some idiots even go as far as to say he's better than Kobe or he's already on Jordan level.


I'm starting to not take PLANT serious in basketball discussion...Just the fact that he started bringing up Kobe's titles shows his maturity level in a topic like this, about LEBRON. LMAO. I can say the same thing about Magic with Kareem, Jordan with Pippen, Bird with McHale, Duncan with Parker, etc. etc... :grumpy:


Keep it on topic, guys...
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: Bay Area Jat on January 17, 2007, 01:05:08 PM
Skip Bayless is a fucking idiot i've been reading his articles in bay area newspapers for years and know how stupid he can be

He's a bay area writer? On what newspaper does he write on? the Chronicle?
pretty sure its the san jose mercury news. im sure he contributes to the chornicle also though
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: 7even on January 17, 2007, 03:15:31 PM
lmao@dedicating yourself to bashing a good person like that, bayless is fucking scum, lebron himself always denied doing dunk contests and super-flashy fastbreak dunks
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: 7even on January 17, 2007, 03:20:27 PM
^ you really never heard that? People are always saying Lebron is almost as good as Kobe or as good as Kobe. Some idiots even go as far as to say he's better than Kobe or he's already on Jordan level.
if jordan had shaq he would have championship rings on his toes

if jordan's father hadnt been fucked he'd have 8 straight championships at the very least
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: Don Jacob on January 17, 2007, 03:24:36 PM
hmmm maaaybe, i definately see 7 but 95 i don't know if the bulls get passed indiana or orlando THAT easily and then go onto beat houston like it's nothing.....it's very possible but 95' was a very competetive year in basketball.
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 17, 2007, 03:57:11 PM
^ you really never heard that? People are always saying Lebron is almost as good as Kobe or as good as Kobe. Some idiots even go as far as to say he's better than Kobe or he's already on Jordan level.
if jordan had shaq he would have championship rings on his toes

if jordan's father hadnt been fucked he'd have 8 straight championships at the very least

that's all speculation my friend.
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: Antonio_ on January 17, 2007, 04:05:48 PM
^ you really never heard that? People are always saying Lebron is almost as good as Kobe or as good as Kobe. Some idiots even go as far as to say he's better than Kobe or he's already on Jordan level.
if jordan had shaq he would have championship rings on his toes

if jordan's father hadnt been fucked he'd have 8 straight championships at the very least

that's all speculation my friend.

Yeah. But a very realistic one.
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 17, 2007, 04:17:20 PM
^ you really never heard that? People are always saying Lebron is almost as good as Kobe or as good as Kobe. Some idiots even go as far as to say he's better than Kobe or he's already on Jordan level.
if jordan had shaq he would have championship rings on his toes

if jordan's father hadnt been fucked he'd have 8 straight championships at the very least

that's all speculation my friend.

Yeah. But a very realistic one.

I doubt it. At the most, he would've won 4 in a row then burned out, and possibly 1 more later in his career.
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: Halu Sination on January 17, 2007, 04:22:06 PM
^ you really never heard that? People are always saying Lebron is almost as good as Kobe or as good as Kobe. Some idiots even go as far as to say he's better than Kobe or he's already on Jordan level.
if jordan had shaq he would have championship rings on his toes

if jordan's father hadnt been fucked he'd have 8 straight championships at the very least

that's all speculation my friend.

Yeah. But a very realistic one.

I doubt it. At the most, he would've won 4 in a row then burned out, and possibly 1 more later in his career.

assuming jordan never lost the motivation (which ultimately made him retire in the first place) i think he very well could have won. but then again, we never got to witness jordan vs the rockets in the finals unfortunately so nobody can really say. olajuwon was fuckin unstoppable
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 17, 2007, 09:45:15 PM
^^I actually believe the fact that Jordan took a rest and made a return after a few years drove him even stronger and in the end contributed to the back-to-back threepeats...Who knows what woulda' happened though? Coulda, shoulda, woulda, right?...For all we know, Lakers COULDA won the 2004 championship had the refs been LA natives...PeACe
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: Vegasmac25 on January 17, 2007, 10:20:48 PM
Lebron is good and all but the media has hyped him up like a motherfucker.I really dont think he will ever get close to jordan or kobe and its just sad that everyone seems to compare him to them and its not his fault.He will be good but i dont think he will ever get that killer instinct which u need to become a great player.
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: J$crILLa on January 18, 2007, 12:47:03 AM
i think lebron is close to kobe, but theres one thing lacking, CLUTCH TIME GAME...

so kobe got him

and comparing kobe to mj is wrong
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 18, 2007, 01:00:30 AM
i think lebron is close to kobe

 :nawty:
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: Antonio_ on January 18, 2007, 01:13:11 AM
Onnnnnnnnn a very side note......... Kobe is averaging 24.9 points, 6.7 assists and 6.3 rebounds per game in january. Who's the "next Magic" now? Who's the "all around" player now? Who's the "he can do it all" player now? Who is the "unselfish" player now? Got ya.
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 18, 2007, 10:25:09 AM
i think lebron is close to kobe, but theres one thing lacking, CLUTCH TIME GAME...

so kobe got him

and comparing kobe to mj is wrong


So you think LeBron is closer to Kobe than Kobe is to MJ? LOL!
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: Hatesrats™ on January 18, 2007, 10:30:39 AM
Lebron will defo get better (He has to)
But never Kobe (IMO)
Shawn Kemp in his prime , maybe.
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: Juronimo on January 18, 2007, 11:12:05 AM
LeBron is good...It just kinda killed it for him when people started comparing him to Kobe, Jordan, etc. and even saying he was better at some point...Now it's Wade's turn.
Really? I never really heard people compare him at all to Kobe.  Mostly to Magic becuase of his size and passing ability.  At the end of the day, hes LeBron and 26, 6 & 6 is pretty fuckin good.  And at the end of the day, Kobe would not have won the titles without Shaq. 

Becuase I know you are about to suck off Kobe now and talk about all his championships.  Without Shaq, we'd all be sitting her saying what you just said "It just kinda killed it for him when people started comparing him to Jordan"

Jesus Christ, I hate it when people say shit like this. Would Bird have won without McHale? Would Jordan had won without Pippen? Would Magic had won without Kareem?

With the exception of the 2004 Pistons and the 2 Rockets championships, every championship team in the last 25 years or so had 2 superstars. There's Shaq and Wade in Miami. Duncan also had Parker, Ginobli and Robinson for the first one. Jordan had Pippen, Isaih Thomas had Laimbeer and Joe Dumars, Magic had Kareem and Worthy, Dr. J had Moses Malone, Bird had McHale, etc etc.

Therefore just because Kobe had Shaq does not diminish what he accomplished because if you do, you'd better diminish all the legends that came before him that needed another superstar's help in winning rings.
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: "THE" MoSav on January 18, 2007, 11:29:53 AM
Lebron's in his 4th year, and almost singlehandely beat the pistons last year in the playoffs...He is great and will continuing being great.
AND LOL@ ANYBODY being compared to Jordan other then Kobe, which IMO is still not even that comparable...
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: "THE" MoSav on January 18, 2007, 11:30:42 AM
^^I actually believe the fact that Jordan took a rest and made a return after a few years drove him even stronger and in the end contributed to the back-to-back threepeats...Who knows what woulda' happened though? Coulda, shoulda, woulda, right?...For all we know, Lakers COULDA won the 2004 championship had the refs been LA natives...PeACe

And the Kings could have won the 2002 series vs the Lakers if the refs were Sac Natives in game 6... 8)
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 18, 2007, 12:03:27 PM
Lebron's in his 4th year, and almost singlehandely beat the pistons last year in the playoffs...He is great and will continuing being great.
AND LOL@ ANYBODY being compared to Jordan other then Kobe, which IMO is still not even that comparable...


Best believe that the GOAT will be debatable between Kobe and Jordan when it's all said and done. You're right, it's not fair to compare someone who still has 10 years ahead of him to one who's finished...But do you know Phil Jackson dodges this question every time he's asked who he thinks is better? In addition to that, this is what Jackson has said of Kobe in the past:

"Kobe is a better shooter than Jordan was"
"Kobe has more range than Jordan did"
"Kobe is a better dribbler than Jordan was"
"Kobe is a better passer than Jordan was"
"Kobe has better court vision than Jordan did"

So I think if you cut out the first half of Jordan's career, it is more than comparable to Kobe's...LeBron compared to Kobe? Now that's a different story...PeACe
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: Don Jacob on January 18, 2007, 12:14:24 PM
LeBron is good...It just kinda killed it for him when people started comparing him to Kobe, Jordan, etc. and even saying he was better at some point...Now it's Wade's turn.
Really? I never really heard people compare him at all to Kobe.  Mostly to Magic becuase of his size and passing ability.  At the end of the day, hes LeBron and 26, 6 & 6 is pretty fuckin good.  And at the end of the day, Kobe would not have won the titles without Shaq. 

Becuase I know you are about to suck off Kobe now and talk about all his championships.  Without Shaq, we'd all be sitting her saying what you just said "It just kinda killed it for him when people started comparing him to Jordan"



With the exception of the 2004 Pistons and the 2 Rockets championships,

2004 pistons= billips, prince, wallace and wallace, and hamilton.......what are you talking about

also 94' rockets=hakeem, cassell, horry, vernon maxwell, kenny smith, otis thorpe, mario ellie
95' rockets= hakeem, DREXLER, thorpe, maxwell, smith, cassell, horry , ellie.....what are you talking about !?
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on January 18, 2007, 12:58:01 PM
I saw the show yesterday moring, and Skip really let LeBron have it. He made some good points on how the media drove him to people considering him the best in the game. People saying he could be as good as MJ before he even set foot on an NBA court was ridiclous. But Skip has to give LeBron more credit, he is a top 10 player to start a team around.
Title: Re: Skip Bayless just killed Lebron on 1st & 10
Post by: "THE" MoSav on January 18, 2007, 02:41:30 PM
Lebron's in his 4th year, and almost singlehandely beat the pistons last year in the playoffs...He is great and will continuing being great.
AND LOL@ ANYBODY being compared to Jordan other then Kobe, which IMO is still not even that comparable...


Best believe that the GOAT will be debatable between Kobe and Jordan when it's all said and done. You're right, it's not fair to compare someone who still has 10 years ahead of him to one who's finished...But do you know Phil Jackson dodges this question every time he's asked who he thinks is better? In addition to that, this is what Jackson has said of Kobe in the past:

"Kobe is a better shooter than Jordan was"
"Kobe has more range than Jordan did"
"Kobe is a better dribbler than Jordan was"
"Kobe is a better passer than Jordan was"
"Kobe has better court vision than Jordan did"

So I think if you cut out the first half of Jordan's career, it is more than comparable to Kobe's...LeBron compared to Kobe? Now that's a different story...PeACe

real spit. I just wanna see kobe's WHOLE career before i compare the two..But so far Kobe is the closest thing too MJ..