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Title: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 17, 2007, 08:56:44 PM
No Odom, no Kwame...Lakers still take the season series from the Spurs with a win tonight at San Antonio. That means out of the contending teams, we've beaten:

Phoenix
Dallas
Utah (twice)
Houston (twice)
San Antonio (twice)
Chicago
Orlando (twice)
Miami (<<I'll throw this one in there since they're the "champions".)



So tell me, does ANYONE out there question our elite status yet? Being considered contenders, in my eyes, is now pretty much a lock...What did I tell you suckaz?! 8)
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Bay Area Jat on January 17, 2007, 08:57:30 PM
Elite yes. championship bound No
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on January 17, 2007, 08:58:26 PM
long season NIK...There gonna have to probably beat Dallas, and that might be too much to overcome  8)
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: swangin and bangin on January 17, 2007, 09:01:36 PM
the lakers are good, i dont like them but those maufuckas are good, there well coached and have good athelets and have a great athlete
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: LAKERS_FAN89 on January 17, 2007, 09:20:54 PM
^^^u be saying LAKERS AINT GOOD....but now u saying they good n shit come on lake :nawty:
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: swangin and bangin on January 17, 2007, 09:23:18 PM
^^^u be saying LAKERS AINT GOOD....but now u saying they good n shit come on lake :nawty:
i say how i hate them deeply and hate on their players, and how there all a bunch of faggots, but i admit always that there faggots that are good at playing basketball!
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: M Dogg™ on January 17, 2007, 09:24:13 PM
great win tonight, and I look forward to seeing them in the playoffs. It's hard to come out of the playoffs as the champion, especially with as young as a team as they have. But they have a chance to make some noise, and give some teams a tough time, and might pull off an upset or two in the playoffs, and really, that's all you can ask this year. This is how titles are won, yes dominate teams like the Bulls, Spurs and Lakers have won, but scrappy teams like the '04 Pistons and '95 Rockets have won too, so if you can pull an upset or two, you could be in line to win a title, and that's the way they ball bounces. Really, that's all you can ask.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: LAKERS_FAN89 on January 17, 2007, 09:28:10 PM
^^^u be saying LAKERS AINT GOOD....but now u saying they good n shit come on lake :nawty:
i say how i hate them deeply and hate on their players, and how there all a bunch of faggots, but i admit always that there faggots that are good at playing basketball!
they aint FAGGOTS only cause we play good we dont have to be faggots about it u be hatin,,,,but i dont even trip cause it always haterz everywhere ;)
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 17, 2007, 09:30:22 PM
Better question, does anyone still have an excuse as to why Kobe doesn't deserve the MVP? 13 games over .500 no Kwame...no Odom, NO SHAQ. His points are down but his teammates points are up, his assists are up, his field goal percentage is up.

Elite yes. championship bound No

I still agree. This just isn't the season.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 17, 2007, 09:31:01 PM
long season NIK...There gonna have to probably beat Dallas, and that might be too much to overcome  8)


We beat Dallas without Odom and Kwame! Kobe alone owns Dallas, remember 62-61?... :laugh:
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Juronimo on January 17, 2007, 09:35:38 PM
No Odom, no Kwame...Lakers still take the season series from the Spurs with a win tonight at San Antonio. That means out of the contending teams, we've beaten:

Phoenix
Dallas
Utah (twice)
Houston (twice)
San Antonio (twice)
Chicago
Orlando (twice)
Miami (<<I'll throw this one in there since they're the "champions".)



So tell me, does ANYONE out there question our elite status yet? Being considered contenders, in my eyes, is now pretty much a lock...What did I tell you suckaz?! 8)

Are we elite? Yes!

We have just as good of a chance of taking the crown as anyone. Once Odom and Kwame get back, we'll be in really good position.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Doggystylin on January 17, 2007, 09:58:33 PM
Man I thought the Lakers had a chance at the Finals last year so OF COURSE I think we're headed there this year. Plus everyone knows the Lakers step up their game in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Vegasmac25 on January 17, 2007, 10:12:55 PM
The Lakers are not Elite yet but we are oh so close to it. I still cannot see them beating the spurs in a 7 game series but we can pretty much handle the rest.Dallas is the top team  right now they have Defense and Offense and yet i fear the spurs more in a series than the Mavs.The Suns are good but i think we can beat them.I think we will see just how good the lakers really are Tomorrow night vs THe Mavs in the back to back games with 2 of the top 4 teams.If we beat the Mavs also after just defeating the Spurs at their respected homes they better get their fucking respect.Its going to be hard for them though but THe Mavs just have a hard time playing the lakers.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: wcsoldier on January 17, 2007, 10:21:21 PM
We can beat any top team 4 sure on a regular basis... even if the season is long and each team has his ups and downs, I can't stand these losses against ¨Portland, Memphis....  but , outside that I'm very confident  8)
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Vegasmac25 on January 17, 2007, 10:32:26 PM
yeah i hate those fucking loses too.That just kills the Lakers home Court come playoff time but it just one of the few things the Lakers have to overcome if they want to be champions again.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 17, 2007, 11:00:04 PM
^^No it's not...Based on my calculations, sub-.500 teams don't make it to the playoffs, so we should be just fine... 8)
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: LAKERS_FAN89 on January 17, 2007, 11:02:36 PM
L'UP :pirate:
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Vegasmac25 on January 17, 2007, 11:12:36 PM
^^No it's not...Based on my calculations, sub-.500 teams don't make it to the playoffs, so we should be just fine... 8)
LOL
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Don Jacob on January 18, 2007, 12:33:57 AM
i agree that they're elite but i don't really think we're going to go to the finals
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: J$crILLa on January 18, 2007, 12:43:13 AM
theyre good, not elite
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Antonio_ on January 18, 2007, 12:55:36 AM
I still agree. This just isn't the season.

Man please believe it. There ain't no teams in the West we can't beat in a 7-games serie. Who are you afraid of? Like the homie Nik said, we already proved we can beat everybody. And even last year, when the team was worse than this year, we went 3-1 against the Suns with no experience at all. This year we won't loose a serie if we have the match point, you know what i mean. Nik i'll give you a +1 for this. I started to see the Lakers playing great at the end of the last season (remember?), and this year i've always stated i'm extremely happy about the team and the draft picks (Bynum+Farmar+Turiaf). I knew we were good. Maybe not "that" good already. But now i'm a believer too.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 18, 2007, 12:59:54 AM
I still agree. This just isn't the season.

Man please believe it. There ain't no teams in the West we can't beat in a 7-games serie. Who are you afraid of? Like the homie Nik said, we already proved we can beat everybody. And even last year, when the team was worse than this year, we went 3-1 against the Suns with no experience at all. This year we won't loose a serie if we have the match point, you know what i mean. Nik i'll give you a +1 for this. I started to see the Lakers playing great at the end of the last season (remember?), and this year i've always stated i'm extremely happy about the team and the draft picks (Bynum+Farmar+Turiaf). I knew we were good. Maybe not "that" good already. But now i'm a believer too.

Yeah but keep in mind we beat all of last season's elite teams too (Miami, Dallas, San Antonio, Phoenix, Detroit). But the playoffs are a whole different ball game. The Lakers will go to the WCF this season but not to the finals due to lack of experience. Like I've been saying: next season is the Lakers season. Only way we can make it this season is if Bynum starts putting up 10/10 later in the season.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Antonio_ on January 18, 2007, 01:06:33 AM
I still agree. This just isn't the season.

Man please believe it. There ain't no teams in the West we can't beat in a 7-games serie. Who are you afraid of? Like the homie Nik said, we already proved we can beat everybody. And even last year, when the team was worse than this year, we went 3-1 against the Suns with no experience at all. This year we won't loose a serie if we have the match point, you know what i mean. Nik i'll give you a +1 for this. I started to see the Lakers playing great at the end of the last season (remember?), and this year i've always stated i'm extremely happy about the team and the draft picks (Bynum+Farmar+Turiaf). I knew we were good. Maybe not "that" good already. But now i'm a believer too.

Yeah but keep in mind we beat all of last season's elite teams too (Miami, Dallas, San Antonio, Phoenix, Detroit). But the playoffs are a whole different ball game.

Man we lost the serie against the Suns not because we tecnically can't play in the playoffs, but because we didn't have the right menthality to make that damn match point. We played better than the Suns. Fucking hell, we went 3-1, man. It's not that the Suns destroyed us. I just believe we won't make the same mistake again, that's it. And if we don't, nobody is gonna have an easy drive against us.

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The Lakers will go to the WCF this season but not to the finals due to lack of experience. Like I've been saying: next season is the Lakers season. Only way we can make it this season is if Bynum starts putting up 10/10 later in the season.

He's putting 11.6 and 8, in january. Which is pretty good. And he'll be even better with Kwame back, working on the defensive end too, helping him. Bynum is the kind of player who just doesn't give a fuck if it's a friendly or a playoff game. Good menthality. He's not scared.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: 7even on January 18, 2007, 03:43:24 AM
The thing is, being a team with 55 wins and capable of beating anybody and ACTUALLY *really* having a good shot at the championship are still 2 very different things. From the current Laker roster, only Kobe knows what's up. Well, and McKie if you wanna get smart with me. They might be capable of beating the best teams even without 1 key player and 1 weird fragile maladjusted lunatic, but I don't see them winning a 7-Game-Series against a team like Dallas... Why? Cause it's also a mental thing.


In other words, to be considered ELITE by me, you have to be contending for at least the previous year. Utah ain't elite either. Neither are the Rockets.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: PLANT on January 18, 2007, 04:51:39 AM
Lakers are good, but IMO they have to get past either Pheonix, Spurs or Dallas in the playoffs to be considered "Elite". 
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Antonio_ on January 18, 2007, 06:33:41 AM
The thing is, being a team with 55 wins and capable of beating anybody and ACTUALLY *really* having a good shot at the championship are still 2 very different things. From the current Laker roster, only Kobe knows what's up. Well, and McKie if you wanna get smart with me. They might be capable of beating the best teams even without 1 key player and 1 weird fragile maladjusted lunatic, but I don't see them winning a 7-Game-Series against a team like Dallas... Why? Cause it's also a mental thing.


In other words, to be considered ELITE by me, you have to be contending for at least the previous year. Utah ain't elite either. Neither are the Rockets.

The Lakers two years ago were a lottery team. Last season they were 1 fucking game away from facing the Clippers in the 2nd round, with good chances of going into the WCF.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 18, 2007, 10:13:07 AM
I still agree. This just isn't the season.

Man please believe it. There ain't no teams in the West we can't beat in a 7-games serie. Who are you afraid of? Like the homie Nik said, we already proved we can beat everybody. And even last year, when the team was worse than this year, we went 3-1 against the Suns with no experience at all. This year we won't loose a serie if we have the match point, you know what i mean. Nik i'll give you a +1 for this. I started to see the Lakers playing great at the end of the last season (remember?), and this year i've always stated i'm extremely happy about the team and the draft picks (Bynum+Farmar+Turiaf). I knew we were good. Maybe not "that" good already. But now i'm a believer too.

Yeah but keep in mind we beat all of last season's elite teams too (Miami, Dallas, San Antonio, Phoenix, Detroit). But the playoffs are a whole different ball game. The Lakers will go to the WCF this season but not to the finals due to lack of experience. Like I've been saying: next season is the Lakers season. Only way we can make it this season is if Bynum starts putting up 10/10 later in the season.


Last year we only started beating the good teams in the second half of the season, it was more of a season to adjust to eachother and the triangle, and we still surprised the league...This year, we're killing right off the bat, even with key players missing throughout the season...What more do we need to do to get your fuckin approval? We have Kobe, we have Phil, we have Odom...What do Dallas have that's better for a 7 game series? Dirk Nowitzki , Josh Howard, and Avery Johnson? Some of you Laker fans really disappoint me with your lack of faith...If we don't believe in ourselves, WHO THE FUCK WILL?! Very disappointing...PeACe
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on January 18, 2007, 11:45:54 AM
Man I thought the Lakers had a chance at the Finals last year so OF COURSE I think we're headed there this year. Plus everyone knows the Lakers step up their game in the playoffs.

who knows? Last years Lakers team lost a 3-1 lead, thats HARDLY stepping it up. We have yet to see what this Lakers team can do. The last time they stepped it up and won a title was 02...This is a completly different laker team, they havent proved anything in the playoffs yet. Dont get me wrong im cant saying they cant do it, im just saying how does everyone know the Lakers always step it up in the playoffs? When they are 0-1 with this team in series's. Past Lakers teams STEPPED IT UP, same uniform different team...
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 18, 2007, 11:50:32 AM
Man I thought the Lakers had a chance at the Finals last year so OF COURSE I think we're headed there this year. Plus everyone knows the Lakers step up their game in the playoffs.

who knows? Last years Lakers team lost a 3-1 lead, thats HARDLY stepping it up. We have yet to see what this Lakers team can do. The last time they stepped it up and won a title was 02...This is a completly different laker team, they havent proved anything in the playoffs yet. Dont get me wrong im cant saying they cant do it, im just saying how does everyone know the Lakers always step it up in the playoffs? When they are 0-1 with this team in series's. Past Lakers teams STEPPED IT UP, same uniform different team...



Phil Jackson teams in general are known for stepping it up in the 2nd half of the season and even more in the playoffs. It's the way the team is coached...Lakers did step up their play in the playoffs last year, they just choked away the 3-1 lead due to inexperience/believing they had it won. But overall, they still picked up their level of play, and that's what Phil and even Kobe are known for...PeACe
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on January 18, 2007, 11:52:12 AM
Man I thought the Lakers had a chance at the Finals last year so OF COURSE I think we're headed there this year. Plus everyone knows the Lakers step up their game in the playoffs.

who knows? Last years Lakers team lost a 3-1 lead, thats HARDLY stepping it up. We have yet to see what this Lakers team can do. The last time they stepped it up and won a title was 02...This is a completly different laker team, they havent proved anything in the playoffs yet. Dont get me wrong im cant saying they cant do it, im just saying how does everyone know the Lakers always step it up in the playoffs? When they are 0-1 with this team in series's. Past Lakers teams STEPPED IT UP, same uniform different team...



Phil Jackson teams in general are known for stepping it up in the 2nd half of the season and even more in the playoffs. It's the way the team is coached...Lakers did step up their play in the playoffs last year, they just choked away the 3-1 lead due to inexperience/believing they had it won. But overall, they still picked up their level of play, and that's what Phil and even Kobe are known for...PeACe

yeah but i still gotta see THIS Team win a series, i know Kobe and Phil are gonna bring there A-game coaching and playing, but who knows about the other youngsters..I think they are good enough to go very far, im just curious too see...
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: PLANT on January 18, 2007, 03:41:30 PM
Another big game for the lakers tonight vs the mavs
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: rik on January 18, 2007, 04:03:37 PM
Mark my words. THE LAKERS ARE GOING TO WIN IT ALL!
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 18, 2007, 04:58:21 PM
If this doesn't shut the doubters up, I don't know what will...

http://www.nba.com/powerrankings/
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: jeromechickenbone on January 18, 2007, 06:18:13 PM
I wouldn't call them elite yet.  They're damn close, prolly top of the next group just below the elite teams.  I definitely enjoy watching them play much more this year than last year (with the exception of the playoffs last year, they were really gelling as a team, imo). 

But just as the Lakers are gonna kick it into high gear come playoff time, so are teams like SA, Dallas, Phx, etc.  They still have a lot to prove, but they're def showing promise.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Just Another Sunny day in California on January 18, 2007, 06:27:42 PM
as in every other thread, yes Nik we know the Lakers are a good team.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 18, 2007, 07:56:48 PM
as in every other thread, yes Nik we know the Lakers are a good team.


That isn't what the thread is about, genius...
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: thisoneguy360 on January 18, 2007, 08:33:38 PM
They're a great team, but they are also getting fucked up by dallas today
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 18, 2007, 09:51:36 PM
This game proved exactly what I've been saying - the Lakers aren't going to get passed Dallas this season. That team is too deep. They're like Phoenix + decent defense.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: rik on January 18, 2007, 10:01:05 PM
This game proved exactly what I've been saying - the Lakers aren't going to get passed Dallas this season. That team is too deep. They're like Phoenix + decent defense.

You're forgetting that we don't have Lamar or Kwame in there pal.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 18, 2007, 11:03:58 PM
This game proved exactly what I've been saying - the Lakers aren't going to get passed Dallas this season. That team is too deep. They're like Phoenix + decent defense.

You're forgetting that we don't have Lamar or Kwame in there pal.

Only difference that would've made was offensive rebounding. The only weakness Dallas has is that both of their centers are lazy underachieversm which is why beating them all comes back to Bynum. Until he is ready, we're NOT beating Dallas 4 times in a series.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: HD on January 19, 2007, 06:20:52 AM
This game proved exactly what I've been saying - the Lakers aren't going to get passed Dallas this season. That team is too deep. They're like Phoenix + decent defense.

You're forgetting that we don't have Lamar or Kwame in there pal.

Only difference that would've made was offensive rebounding. The only weakness Dallas has is that both of their centers are lazy underachieversm which is why beating them all comes back to Bynum. Until he is ready, we're NOT beating Dallas 4 times in a series.

FINALLY a realistic lakers fan
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Antonio_ on January 19, 2007, 07:40:51 AM
So... which center had Phoenix in the last PO?
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: rik on January 19, 2007, 08:24:16 AM
This game proved exactly what I've been saying - the Lakers aren't going to get passed Dallas this season. That team is too deep. They're like Phoenix + decent defense.

You're forgetting that we don't have Lamar or Kwame in there pal.

Only difference that would've made was offensive rebounding. The only weakness Dallas has is that both of their centers are lazy underachieversm which is why beating them all comes back to Bynum. Until he is ready, we're NOT beating Dallas 4 times in a series.

You're trippin bro. Only difference would be of offensive rebound? How bout the D Lamar plays on Dirk, the scoring, and running the offense.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 19, 2007, 09:24:37 AM
This game proved exactly what I've been saying - the Lakers aren't going to get passed Dallas this season. That team is too deep. They're like Phoenix + decent defense.

You're forgetting that we don't have Lamar or Kwame in there pal.

Only difference that would've made was offensive rebounding. The only weakness Dallas has is that both of their centers are lazy underachieversm which is why beating them all comes back to Bynum. Until he is ready, we're NOT beating Dallas 4 times in a series.

FINALLY a realistic lakers fan


Realistic? LMAO...You mean faithless. We lost AT Dallas without our 2nd and 3rd best player on a 2nd night of a back to back, dude has no Laker pride whatsoever saying some shit like that, especially when we just beat Dallas a little over a weak ago... :grumpy:
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 19, 2007, 09:25:58 AM
This game proved exactly what I've been saying - the Lakers aren't going to get passed Dallas this season. That team is too deep. They're like Phoenix + decent defense.

You're forgetting that we don't have Lamar or Kwame in there pal.

Only difference that would've made was offensive rebounding. The only weakness Dallas has is that both of their centers are lazy underachieversm which is why beating them all comes back to Bynum. Until he is ready, we're NOT beating Dallas 4 times in a series.

You're trippin bro. Only difference would be of offensive rebound? How bout the D Lamar plays on Dirk, the scoring, and running the offense.


LOL@tryna explain something to Baby G.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 19, 2007, 12:18:13 PM
This game proved exactly what I've been saying - the Lakers aren't going to get passed Dallas this season. That team is too deep. They're like Phoenix + decent defense.

You're forgetting that we don't have Lamar or Kwame in there pal.

Only difference that would've made was offensive rebounding. The only weakness Dallas has is that both of their centers are lazy underachieversm which is why beating them all comes back to Bynum. Until he is ready, we're NOT beating Dallas 4 times in a series.

FINALLY a realistic lakers fan


Realistic? LMAO...You mean faithless. We lost AT Dallas without our 2nd and 3rd best player on a 2nd night of a back to back, dude has no Laker pride whatsoever saying some shit like that, especially when we just beat Dallas a little over a weak ago... :grumpy:

Well I guess everyone on lakersground.net and clublakers.com are "faithless" aswell because I see them saying A LOT of the same things that I'm saying. There's a difference between a realistic fan and a dickriding jackass.


LOL@tryna explain something to Baby G.

Lol @ me? Everyone already knows its pointless to talk sports with you. Reguardless of the topic, you're going to come in and bring up Kobe or the Lakers.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Juronimo on January 19, 2007, 01:07:19 PM
This game proved exactly what I've been saying - the Lakers aren't going to get passed Dallas this season. That team is too deep. They're like Phoenix + decent defense.

You're forgetting that we don't have Lamar or Kwame in there pal.

Only difference that would've made was offensive rebounding. The only weakness Dallas has is that both of their centers are lazy underachieversm which is why beating them all comes back to Bynum. Until he is ready, we're NOT beating Dallas 4 times in a series.

FINALLY a realistic lakers fan


Realistic? LMAO...You mean faithless. We lost AT Dallas without our 2nd and 3rd best player on a 2nd night of a back to back, dude has no Laker pride whatsoever saying some shit like that, especially when we just beat Dallas a little over a weak ago... :grumpy:

Well I guess everyone on lakersground.net and clublakers.com are "faithless" aswell because I see them saying A LOT of the same things that I'm saying. There's a difference between a realistic fan and a dickriding jackass.


LOL@tryna explain something to Baby G.

Lol @ me? Everyone already knows its pointless to talk sports with you. Reguardless of the topic, you're going to come in and bring up Kobe or the Lakers.

Do you really feel that getting Lamar and Kwame back won't make a difference?

Also, why use the Laker boards as an example? I post at Clublakers and a good portion of the "fans" there are haters in disguise.

I would have to say that Dallas are the favorites, but once we're healthy, I don't see any reason why we can't hang with them. We have beaten them minus Lamar and Kwame. Once we get those guys back, the offensive rebounding problems will dissappear. The games we have lost are directly attributable to offensive rebounding by the opposition and having our bigs back addresses that need. That's the biggest issue we're having right now.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Juronimo on January 19, 2007, 01:14:20 PM
This game proved exactly what I've been saying - the Lakers aren't going to get passed Dallas this season. That team is too deep. They're like Phoenix + decent defense.

You're forgetting that we don't have Lamar or Kwame in there pal.

Only difference that would've made was offensive rebounding. The only weakness Dallas has is that both of their centers are lazy underachieversm which is why beating them all comes back to Bynum. Until he is ready, we're NOT beating Dallas 4 times in a series.

FINALLY a realistic lakers fan


Realistic? LMAO...You mean faithless. We lost AT Dallas without our 2nd and 3rd best player on a 2nd night of a back to back, dude has no Laker pride whatsoever saying some shit like that, especially when we just beat Dallas a little over a weak ago... :grumpy:

Well I guess everyone on lakersground.net and clublakers.com are "faithless" aswell because I see them saying A LOT of the same things that I'm saying. There's a difference between a realistic fan and a dickriding jackass.


LOL@tryna explain something to Baby G.

Lol @ me? Everyone already knows its pointless to talk sports with you. Reguardless of the topic, you're going to come in and bring up Kobe or the Lakers.

Do you really feel that getting Lamar and Kwame back won't make a difference?

Also, why use the Laker boards as an example? I post at Clublakers and a good portion of the "fans" there are haters in disguise.

I would have to say that Dallas are the favorites, but once we're healthy, I don't see any reason why we can't hang with them. We have beaten them minus Lamar and Kwame. Once we get those guys back, the offensive rebounding problems will dissappear. The games we have lost are directly attributable to offensive rebounding by the opposition and having our bigs back addresses that need. That's the biggest issue we're having right now.

I also recall a lot of "fans" said we didn't have a shot at beating phoenix last year and we came damn close. This team is much better than that team, even minus our bigs. Once we get them back it's on.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 19, 2007, 08:56:02 PM
Baby G, you are pathetic man...I'm glad not every Laker fan thinks like you, it would be one shitty ass Laker Nation, best believe that. "We can't beat Dallas :'( :'( :'("...LMAO, get the fuck outta here, bitch. These guys are tryna explain basketball to you like you're really gunna get it. You're so superficial, all you see is records, hot winning streaks, and stats..I've never ever seen any indications of you actually understanding the game. If the Lakers won the championship this year, you'd have to feel even worse than if they didn't win it with the shit you've been saying, and you definitely wont be able to act like you've been down...What don't you get about that? learn how to be a fan and have faith in your team, especially when we have the best player, the best coach, and the best system, one of the best records with a depleted team... I think the shit you're saying is simply despicable, and I know it's not just me...
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Antonio_ on January 19, 2007, 10:56:07 PM
Don't take it personal, boys. Me & Juronimo are Laker fans too (i think nobody can call us "biased" and shit), and we are optimistic too. It's just an opinion.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Don Jacob on January 19, 2007, 11:30:34 PM
Baby G, you are pathetic man...I'm glad not every Laker fan thinks like you, it would be one shitty ass Laker Nation, best believe that. "We can't beat Dallas :'( :'( :'("...LMAO, get the fuck outta here, bitch. These guys are tryna explain basketball to you like you're really gunna get it. You're so superficial, all you see is records, hot winning streaks, and stats..I've never ever seen any indications of you actually understanding the game. If the Lakers won the championship this year, you'd have to feel even worse than if they didn't win it with the shit you've been saying, and you definitely wont be able to act like you've been down...What don't you get about that? learn how to be a fan and have faith in your team, especially when we have the best player, the best coach, and the best system, one of the best records with a depleted team... I think the shit you're saying is simply despicable, and I know it's not just me...

relax toby , it's not religion
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 20, 2007, 12:02:56 PM
It might not be a religion, but the P&G be runnin' through my veins, and I can't stand no shit like this VV

Mavs are great. I love the chemistry they have together. I'm lookin forward to seeing them win the championship this summer.


 :puke:
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 20, 2007, 12:37:41 PM
Lol I win. 1 line kept this guy from getting any sleep.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 20, 2007, 12:47:48 PM
Lol I win. 1 line kept this guy from getting any sleep.


Naah, you got it twisted homie... all it did was keep me from respecting your status as a Laker fan and that's where it ends...LOL. Don't get TOO excited there, buddy.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 20, 2007, 01:24:28 PM
Lol I don't give a fuck. Nobody put you in charge of the Lakers fans membership club in the first place.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 20, 2007, 01:28:25 PM
Lol I don't give a fuck. Nobody put you in charge of the Lakers fans membership club in the first place.


Yea, it's just my opinion man, no need to catch feelings over it...I'm sure in your opinion I'm a biased asshole, and there's nothing I can do to change that...So how 'bout them Mavs, huh?
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 20, 2007, 01:43:35 PM
Lol I don't give a fuck. Nobody put you in charge of the Lakers fans membership club in the first place.


Yea, it's just my opinion man, no need to catch feelings over it...I'm sure in your opinion I'm a biased asshole, and there's nothing I can do to change that...So how 'bout them Mavs, huh?

I'm not the only one  ;D But i'll leave it at that.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: WestCoasta on January 20, 2007, 01:44:24 PM
nice thread NIK


can't you just wait til they actually win a playoff game to have your orgasm?
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 20, 2007, 02:02:12 PM
nice thread NIK


can't you just wait til they actually win a playoff game to have your orgasm?


My bad, I forgot that predictions were for after the playoffs... ::)
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on February 02, 2007, 07:17:42 PM
Way to jinx the Lakers asshole...You did the same shit last season when you made a Lakers/Clippers thread when the Lakers were up 3-1 on the suns  :psych:
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on February 02, 2007, 07:36:36 PM
Mavs>Lakers
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 03, 2007, 07:02:23 PM
Way to jinx the Lakers asshole...You did the same shit last season when you made a Lakers/Clippers thread when the Lakers were up 3-1 on the suns  :psych:


I never made a thread like that. LOL, what a dumbass...And you must feel like a complete dipshit sporting that name tonight. LMAO@"get rid of Smush", our biggest steal on the team and best player for his value. Disgusting. :grumpy:
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 03, 2007, 08:05:37 PM
You're talking about this, dumbfuck:

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=109234.0
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on February 05, 2007, 02:04:38 AM
Way to jinx the Lakers asshole...You did the same shit last season when you made a Lakers/Clippers thread when the Lakers were up 3-1 on the suns  :psych:


And you must feel like a complete dipshit sporting that name tonight. LMAO@"get rid of Smush", our biggest steal on the team and best player for his value. Disgusting. :grumpy:

no i don't....i don't like players that disrespect our coaches like you do...way to support our coaches, asshole (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/Themes/dubcc/images/post/thumbup.gif)

And you stil jinx the Lakers, Bitch!   (Now_I_Jinx (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/Themes/dubcc/images/post/cheesy.gif) )
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 05, 2007, 10:07:07 AM
Way to jinx the Lakers asshole...You did the same shit last season when you made a Lakers/Clippers thread when the Lakers were up 3-1 on the suns  :psych:


And you must feel like a complete dipshit sporting that name tonight. LMAO@"get rid of Smush", our biggest steal on the team and best player for his value. Disgusting. :grumpy:

no i don't....i don't like players that disrespect our coaches like you do...way to support our coaches, asshole (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/Themes/dubcc/images/post/thumbup.gif)

And you stil jinx the Lakers, Bitch!   (Now_I_Jinx (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/Themes/dubcc/images/post/cheesy.gif) )


Don't support our coaches? He's our starting point guard, you stupid piece of shit. LMAO...I hope Smush runs you over one day when you're crossing the street.

He's been getting better evey month, dumbfuck...

Last 8 Games-
PPG: 15 (46-103 FGs)
APG: 2
SPG: 2.5
Salary: $798,112.00


TRADE SMUSH! :puke:
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on February 05, 2007, 10:32:22 AM
the 2 APG def needs to improve, but then again i dont know how the triangle offense works and it seems like nobody avgs too many assists in that offense...
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 05, 2007, 10:58:18 AM
the 2 APG def needs to improve, but then again i dont know how the triangle offense works and it seems like nobody avgs too many assists in that offense...


^^Yea, Smush is not our distributor, so his assists are not a concern...But he's currently doing what he does at a very high level right now. We'd definitely be a lot worse without him, so I have no idea what this kid is going on about. How is a starting quality point guard making $798,112 not considered a steal by EVERYONE? It boggles my mind...
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on February 05, 2007, 11:00:46 AM
the 2 APG def needs to improve, but then again i dont know how the triangle offense works and it seems like nobody avgs too many assists in that offense...


^^Yea, Smush is not our distributor, so his assists are not a concern...But he's currently doing what he does at a very high level right now. We'd definitely be a lot worse without him, so I have no idea what this kid is going on about. How is a starting quality point guard making $798,112 not considered a steal by EVERYONE? It boggles my mind...

seems like a steal to me..He has looked good lately from what i have seen as well.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on February 07, 2007, 01:35:57 AM

you stupid piece of shit. --------------I hope Smush runs you over one day when you're crossing the street.
dumbfuck...



(http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/Themes/dubcc/images/post/cheesy.gif) (http://www.clublakers.com/forums/images/smiles/man10.gif) Sounds like i made your bitch ass angry  8)


seems like a steal to me..

Trust me, He Sucks...He's a horrible decision maker, he has no PG Skills, he can't create a shot for himself or his teammates...he's horrible on defense...he's a cancer, he pouts when he gets benched, he dissed Phil Jackson & Kurt Rambis when they benched him. He's not the type of player that's going to helped you win big games.

There's a reason we won 45 games last season and lost in the 1st round, and why we're the 6th seed so far this season...We need to upgrade that PG spot...

And all of Smush points come from assist, he is avg more pts lately but that's only b/c Luke is hurt & Lamar is back, Lamar is that other player that draws double teams and gets smuch open looks.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 07, 2007, 10:00:06 AM

you stupid piece of shit. --------------I hope Smush runs you over one day when you're crossing the street.
dumbfuck...



(http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/Themes/dubcc/images/post/cheesy.gif) (http://www.clublakers.com/forums/images/smiles/man10.gif) Sounds like i made your bitch ass angry  8)


You didn't make me angry, your stupidity did...Smush is one of the main reasons we've been winning games lately, you moron...In the last 3 games, he picked up 13 steals! Maybe we shoulda picked up Marcus Banks when we had the chance. ::) Mitch obviously addressed the point guard issues in the off-season (drafting Farmar, signing Shammond)...We currently have 5 players on our roster who can play the point guard position, and as of now, Smush has proven to be the best option. In the last 7 games he's averaging almost 4 steals! He's shooting 45% from the field and 38% on threes on 12 ppg for the year! HE ONLY AVERAGES 1.7 TURNOVERS A GAME! That's more steals/blocks than turnovers! Those are GREAT numbers...You obviously know nothing about the sport if you don't consider Smush a steal, and I honesly believe you're just copying and pasting all the bullshit you read from the moaning fans on clublakers.com... :-\
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on February 07, 2007, 10:37:53 PM
I get all my "Bullshit" from watching games, something you obviously don't do.

All his steals came from 2 games.....i want to see him get 6 steals against the top teams in the West...do that shit in the playoffs.

45 %Shooting & ...38% from 3'S is not good....especially when he doesn't shoot alot and ALWAYS gets open looks...avg 12 ppg is not good..he should avg more if he could make his FT's (65%, down 4 from last season) & make a higher % of his shots.

Don't give this crap about his TO's are low b/c you and i know he makes his mistakes during the worst times, he always hurts the team just like he did against the spurs 2 weeks ago.

He's never going to help this team WIN BIG GAMES, AND YOU KNOW THAT!

Like I've said before, SMUSH IS INCONSISTENT...what were his stats the 1st 2 months of the season? how many times has he hurt this team this season?.. what were his stats the Last 4 games of the playoffs last season? how did he play after that 5-1 road trip last season? is he not a big reason why we won 45 games last season and lost in the 1st round and are the 6th seed so far this season?

And no he's not a steal for those reasons^^^^...the only reason he's on the team is b/c our salary cap situation.

he's a cancer, he pouts when he gets benched, he dissed Phil Jackson & Kurt Rambis when they benched him.

funny how you avoid the MAIN REASON I DON'T LIKE HIM...^^ That alone should make you not support that piece of shit, but i guess you love his dick to much. :camp: :love: :love2:

Smush---->(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a351/webdbest/hfD8DaF.gif)<-------Sasha
^
Now_I_Jinx

Trust me, He Sucks...He's a horrible decision maker, he has no PG Skills, he can't create a shot for himself or his teammates...he's horrible on defense...
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Citizen-Y on February 07, 2007, 11:32:52 PM
Arguing with my son is like arguing with a wall.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 08, 2007, 10:25:30 AM
I get all my "Bullshit" from watching games, something you obviously don't do.

All his steals came from 2 games.....i want to see him get 6 steals against the top teams in the West...do that shit in the playoffs.

45 %Shooting & ...38% from 3'S is not good....especially when he doesn't shoot alot and ALWAYS gets open looks...avg 12 ppg is not good..he should avg more if he could make his FT's (65%, down 4 from last season) & make a higher % of his shots.

Don't give this crap about his TO's are low b/c you and i know he makes his mistakes during the worst times, he always hurts the team just like he did against the spurs 2 weeks ago.

He's never going to help this team WIN BIG GAMES, AND YOU KNOW THAT!

Like I've said before, SMUSH IS INCONSISTENT...what were his stats the 1st 2 months of the season? how many times has he hurt this team this season?.. what were his stats the Last 4 games of the playoffs last season? how did he play after that 5-1 road trip last season? is he not a big reason why we won 45 games last season and lost in the 1st round and are the 6th seed so far this season?

And no he's not a steal for those reasons^^^^...the only reason he's on the team is b/c our salary cap situation.

he's a cancer, he pouts when he gets benched, he dissed Phil Jackson & Kurt Rambis when they benched him.

funny how you avoid the MAIN REASON I DON'T LIKE HIM...^^ That alone should make you not support that piece of shit, but i guess you love his dick to much. :camp: :love: :love2:

Smush---->(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a351/webdbest/hfD8DaF.gif)<-------Sasha
^
Now_I_Jinx

Trust me, He Sucks...He's a horrible decision maker, he has no PG Skills, he can't create a shot for himself or his teammates...he's horrible on defense...


Damn, dude, you're a hopeless case...By my estimations, he is the REASON we won 45 games last season. We went into the season with Aaron McKie projected to be our starting point guard and Smush was an EXTREMELY pleasant surprise...LMFAO@you saying 45% FG and 38% 3FG is not good for a point guard, especially one getting paid $798,112! PATHETIC!!! What's even more pathetic is that you're dissing him despite the fact that he's been getting BETTER every month this season...Dude is still 25 years old, last season was basically his rookie year...And LMFAO@you tryna stir up some beef between him and Phil Jackson...HES OUR STARTING POINT GUARD, MORON, PHIL WOULDNT START HIM IF HE DIDNT LIKE HIM. How dumb can someone get? :puke: :stupid:
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on February 10, 2007, 07:53:50 PM
Quote from: Now_I_Jinx
he is the REASON we won 45 games last season.

WOW  :laugh: ..And here i thought we won 45 games b/c Phil Jackson came back, Kobe & Lamar stayed healthy unlike the year before, & Luke & Kwame started playing really good @ the end of the season....I guess i was wrong, it was all Smush (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/Themes/dubcc/images/post/cheesy.gif)

Quote from: Now_I_Jinx
...LMFAO@you saying 45% FG and 38% 3FG is not good for a point guard, especially one getting paid $798,112!

Who gives a fuck how much he's making, Those stats are only good for SMUSH....That's going to get him a couple Mill $ with some other team...those Numbers are not Great or good, they're average...average is not going to help any team win a lot of games/championships.

Smush is Ranked 37 in 3 point makes(How is that great or Good?)...only 9 players shoot a worst % which means out of 37 players he's Ranked 27 in 3 point % (How is that good or great?)

His PPG could be better if he hit better then 65 % from the FT Line and also his 3 point% and overall %........he always gets open looks.....there's no reason for him not to attack the basket more, there's always open lanes for him....even Stu said last night Smush is a 3 point shooter.


And yes, he's putting up some nice little stats lately, but the competition has been weak (And we've been losing so no one will remember those stats, put up stats against the top teams in the West & in the playoffs and then the REAL Lakers fans would be impress)...we've played the Warriors and a bunch of East Coast teams...He did play really good against the Wizards...to bad he cost us the game against the Spurs, And that's the only game that really counts, we could of swept the Spurs but thanx to Smush we didn't.

Quote from: Now_I_Jinx
And LMFAO@you tryna stir up some beef between him and Phil Jackson...HES OUR STARTING POINT GUARD, MORON, PHIL WOULDNT START HIM IF HE DIDNT LIKE HIM. How dumb can someone get?

I'm not trying to stir up anything...

It's a Fact he maddog Kurt Rambis in the Pre-Season when he benched him

It's a Fact he got mad when Phil benched him....Smush threw his Headband, Towel, And started Staring at Phil and clapping his hands, mocking him.

Phil Has no choice but to start him/Play him (LMAO if you think Phil actually likes him)....Who else is going to Start/Play, Sasha?  :laugh: :laugh: he's worst then Smush....J.Farmar is going to be great but not this season, he's a rookie, he's already hit the wall and he's playing real bad lately(  :( :( , I was hoping he be the starter by now)

Phil was asked earlier in the season about Farmar starting & if he's going to be playing like this the whole season...Phil said that he's rookie and he's going to hit a wall and we need smush to start playing better....

Phil doesn't want to fuck with Smush's head b/c he knows We'll end up loosing him THIS SEASON, He'll Start pouting and acting like a bitch, and the Lakers are going to be fucked @ the PG position...

They basically have the M.D'Antonie, Tim Thomas thing going on (D'antonie didn't like TT), they're just using each other...Phil needs Smush THIS SEASON  to play good And Smush Needs Phil / the Lakers to finally get his big contract.
Title: Re: Lakers beat the Spurs...Anyone think they're not ELITE yet?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on February 10, 2007, 08:47:49 PM
^We'll see...As of now, yes, we could have a better starting point guard, but Smush is surpassing what we expect of him, he is easily a top 3 or 4 contributor on our team, and unquestionably the one doing the most for his money. Ideally, he'd be coming off the bench for us at this point. But I can't say I'm not pleased with the work he's put in and the improvements he's been making from month to month...Just change your name, dude. It's really lame to sport something like that when you're supposed to be a Laker fan...PeACe


PS...Every player goes through frustration periods. LOL@thinking Smush would get the playing time he's getting if Phil "hated" him. Stop overdramatizing BS like a fag from the media or something...Smush has been getting better. He doesn't pout anymore and he keeps his head up. Stop the hating. :nawty: