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Title: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: xquistqban on January 19, 2007, 10:08:43 AM
Damn, Crooked I is so dope that when I listen to him I get blown away by his flow and lyrics.  Then, when I hear other rappers I just Can't get into them.  For example, this morning I listened to "So Damn Hood" and "Still Tha Row" in my ride on the way to school.  On the way home, I played BCT and DA and I coudn't get into them.  Snoop and Game are no where near Crooked I's level.  No rapper compares to Crooked I.  Listen to Crooked and then listen to any other rapper, right after, I bet you wont feel the next rapper.  I've been bumpin Crooked for a week and now I dont even feel DPG.  It's like other rappers need to bring more heat to even be listenable to after Crooked I.  I really think im gonna stop playing Crooked so that I can feel other rappers again. Try it for yourself and see.
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Tanjential on January 19, 2007, 10:12:09 AM
i agree. Mac Dre is like this as well: Mac dre is such a dope rapper that you'll be listening to a song that's beat ain't that hot and by the end of his first verse you're dancing your ass of cause he has so much style and is a very clever lyricist to the point that you don't even realize how hyphy you're getting to it. dude's flow is bouncy, hard to explain. Download "early retirement" for a good example of mac dreezy infecting your head.

-T
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: proverbs aka DD on January 19, 2007, 10:23:15 AM
thats unfortunate.

i think crooked i is a great lyricist, but a horrible song writer. i think that's why he doesn't catch on to the mainstream and his albums keep getting delayed.

Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on January 19, 2007, 10:50:15 AM
thats unfortunate.

i think crooked i is a great lyricist, but a horrible song writer. i think that's why he doesn't catch on to the mainstream and his albums keep getting delayed.



Then bro u gonna be happy soon when u hear some of the shit on BOSS album. Dude gonna surprise lotta heads.

Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Tanjential on January 19, 2007, 10:52:12 AM
yeah, i don't think crook's artistry is lacking at all. it's all on the business/politic side of things that he's an idiot.

he has many valid points in how he criticizes, but he cuts himself out of a lot of circles in his interviews.

-T
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: The "Untouchable" DJR on January 19, 2007, 10:56:39 AM
Let's just hope it'll be worth the wait when (should I say IF?) his album finally drops! People been anticipating his album ever since he signed with D.R., there's much at stake here for him.
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on January 19, 2007, 11:00:54 AM
yeah, i don't think crook's artistry is lacking at all. it's all on the business/politic side of things that he's an idiot.

he has many valid points in how he criticizes, but he cuts himself out of a lot of circles in his interviews.

-T

I feel u, hes gonna show in this year if hes capable of droppin the LP. Lotta crucial great news are coming from the camp so be onna lookout.
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: mrtonguetwista on January 19, 2007, 11:08:24 AM
I might listen to him, but I won't view another Crooked I dvd, not after that piece of shit that came out last year where the "extras" didnt even work
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 19, 2007, 11:13:31 AM
Crook is one of the sickest, but "So Damn Hood" and "Still Tha Row"? LOL
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Tanjential on January 19, 2007, 11:24:44 AM
yeah, i don't think crook's artistry is lacking at all. it's all on the business/politic side of things that he's an idiot.

he has many valid points in how he criticizes, but he cuts himself out of a lot of circles in his interviews.

-T

I feel u, hes gonna show in this year if hes capable of droppin the LP. Lotta crucial great news are coming from the camp so be onna lookout.

damn if this guy is saying 'if' i don't think we'll see crooked'd lp till bush is outta office.

-T
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 19, 2007, 11:40:12 AM
yeah, i don't think crook's artistry is lacking at all. it's all on the business/politic side of things that he's an idiot.

he has many valid points in how he criticizes, but he cuts himself out of a lot of circles in his interviews.

-T

I feel u, hes gonna show in this year if hes capable of droppin the LP. Lotta crucial great news are coming from the camp so be onna lookout.

damn if this guy is saying 'if' i don't think we'll see crooked'd lp till bush is outta office.

-T


What do you expect, it's Crooked I...Just be happy that downloading still exists.
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: EFFeX on January 19, 2007, 11:49:09 AM
I'm gettin' a little fed up with people sayin' Crook can't write a song... he's got deep lyrics, people must be listenin' to the wrong songs. He's got stuff that WILL send chills through your spine.
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Tanjential on January 19, 2007, 11:50:14 AM
i agree, but i bet his contract would send chills up Hammer's spine.

-T
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: R-Tistic on January 19, 2007, 01:35:13 PM
Crooked is, well for a good while was, my favorite rapper on the planet. But in the last  year or so, I have realized that there aren't many songs of his that blow me away, as Snoop, even Game, and many other rappers have. Crooked's VERSES blow you away...but he barely has any songs that I would put on a list of my favorite songs. Boom Boom Clap was hot as hell, but "So damn hood" and "Still tha Row" are 8/10 at best....well shit So damn hood is 6.5/7 at best.

Yeah he does have strong lyrics, but lyrics alone don't make great SONGS...it's about choosin the right beat, havin the hook on point even if you aren't the one on the hook, havin the concept on point, and just holdin the whole song down. Most of his songs sound more like dope underground styled tracks, and he hasn't found the balance to make a strong lyrical song that is still appealing, as rappers like Cassidy, Nas, and Sly Boogy have done.

And speakin of Sly....I think Crooked I is better by a decent distance....but he doesn't have ANY, and I mean ANY songs as good as "That's my name" or "California". Even "It's nothin" is hotter than most of Crook's songs. I only get blown away by Crooked's verses and freestyles.....the one on "Grindin" is still my favorite freestyle verse in history.
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Tanjential on January 19, 2007, 01:41:40 PM
where's grindin released on?

sly is sick...but anyway, I've never heard a song that was just crooked I. but every song i've heard with crooked I is classic.

-T
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on January 19, 2007, 02:20:40 PM
on the wake up show....

just you tube

crooked murdered it
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: xquistqban on January 19, 2007, 02:30:58 PM
Ya'll cats are totally missing the point.  Listen to Crooked spit and then here another rapper right after.  You will be laughing at the other rapper.  That is the point not whether Crooked is dope or not.  Everytime I post something cats respond with shit that doesnt have anything to do with the topic.  Even listening to Ras Kass is boring after listening to Crooked. 
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Tha Psycho Hustla on January 19, 2007, 02:32:53 PM
i feel you man.
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Tanjential on January 19, 2007, 02:33:02 PM
Ya'll cats are totally missing the point.  Listen to Crooked spit and then here another rapper right after.  You will be laughing at the other rapper.  That is the point not whether Crooked is dope or not.  Everytime I post something cats respond with shit that doesnt have anything to do with the topic.  Even listening to Ras Kass is boring after listening to Crooked. 

Homey, I know exactly what you're talking about. peep mac Dre. He is the only other rapper than crooked that makes me feel like that. Check 'early retirement'. the song starts and you're like 'this beat is whatever' and by the end of the song you're fucking dancing not even realizing you're dancing to the rapping cause it's so dope it MADE the beat dope. and then the rapper you listen to next, has no style compared. try it.

-T
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on January 19, 2007, 03:14:38 PM
yeah, i don't think crook's artistry is lacking at all. it's all on the business/politic side of things that he's an idiot.

he has many valid points in how he criticizes, but he cuts himself out of a lot of circles in his interviews.

-T

I feel u, hes gonna show in this year if hes capable of droppin the LP. Lotta crucial great news are coming from the camp so be onna lookout.

damn if this guy is saying 'if' i don't think we'll see crooked'd lp till bush is outta office.

-T


Ok. Let me make it simple. Crooked I IS releasing CD this year...the wait is over  ;D

BOSS lp is revolutionary.
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Tanjential on January 19, 2007, 03:16:02 PM
yeah, i don't think crook's artistry is lacking at all. it's all on the business/politic side of things that he's an idiot.

he has many valid points in how he criticizes, but he cuts himself out of a lot of circles in his interviews.

-T

I feel u, hes gonna show in this year if hes capable of droppin the LP. Lotta crucial great news are coming from the camp so be onna lookout.

damn if this guy is saying 'if' i don't think we'll see crooked'd lp till bush is outta office.

-T


Ok. Let me make it simple. Crooked I IS releasing CD this year...the wait is over  ;D

BOSS lp is revolutionary.

I hope you are right homey. Cause if he does I'll buy it. If the production is dope I'll buy two. and if the CD is a classic, I'll buy three.

-T
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on January 19, 2007, 03:28:55 PM
yeah, i don't think crook's artistry is lacking at all. it's all on the business/politic side of things that he's an idiot.

he has many valid points in how he criticizes, but he cuts himself out of a lot of circles in his interviews.

-T

I feel u, hes gonna show in this year if hes capable of droppin the LP. Lotta crucial great news are coming from the camp so be onna lookout.

damn if this guy is saying 'if' i don't think we'll see crooked'd lp till bush is outta office.

-T


Ok. Let me make it simple. Crooked I IS releasing CD this year...the wait is over  ;D

BOSS lp is revolutionary.

I hope you are right homey. Cause if he does I'll buy it. If the production is dope I'll buy two. and if the CD is a classic, I'll buy three.

-T

Yea man, im feelin the same way, been waiting on this for a long time...it would be nice to drop album exact 10 after he signed his first deal with Virgin.

All i can say is that the announcments are coming and its all positive.,so we will see one really quality album, i mean shits revolutionary.
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Tanjential on January 19, 2007, 03:30:10 PM
he signed with virgin in 97?

who's supposed to be producin' the record?

-T
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on January 19, 2007, 03:36:36 PM
he signed with virgin in 97?

who's supposed to be producin' the record?

-T

There was a talk Scott Storch, Rick Rock,Timbo, Jim Gittum, but lotta changes happend till then...from guests there was talk about Jada, Bun B. Lets hope for the best
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Tanjential on January 19, 2007, 03:37:45 PM
timbo, rock, and storch would be real good. -T
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on January 19, 2007, 03:40:09 PM
timbo, rock, and storch would be real good. -T

No doubt its gonna be smashin production on it. I guess Scotts and Timbos are probably gonna be used as singles, but lemme say Jim Gittum and Komplex made some insane shit i hear.
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Tanjential on January 19, 2007, 03:41:01 PM
never heard them.

-T
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on January 19, 2007, 03:47:23 PM
never heard them.

-T

Jim Gittum did BOOM BOOM CLAP...KOMPLEX, he did Crooked I -Home, All I Ever Wanted. But beats that are made for the album are way better.
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Hatesrats™ on January 19, 2007, 03:51:05 PM
In all honesty, as long as I (We all) have been waiting for Crook to drop...
he better come solo with out any fucken guest's at all.  (IMO)

as long as the production is tight, Crooked is going to murder the beat.

Crazy for me tho but...
At some point every year since Crook's debut, there has been a moment in the year that Crooked
becomes the center of my listening universe...

I think it's happenin' as we speak.... :o
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on January 19, 2007, 03:56:58 PM
In all honesty, as long as I (We all) have been waiting for Crook to drop...
he better come solo with out any fucken guest's at all.  (IMO)

as long as the production is tight, Crooked is going to murder the beat.

Crazy for me tho but...
At some point every year since Crook's debut, there has been a moment in the year that Crooked
becomes the center of my listening universe...

I think it's happenin' as we speak.... :o


AInt gonna be lotta guest spots...all Crooked I ya know

Im listenin to all kinds of shit trough the years, but allways coming back to Crooked Is music. Shits just fresh no matter how old is it and thats hard to achive haha.

Just bumpin CALI BOYS...song had some potential and video was already in plan but problems came for Treacherous at the time.

Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: LAC/EASTSIDE on January 19, 2007, 06:14:26 PM
Crook is one of the sickest, but "So Damn Hood" and "Still Tha Row"? LOL
Thats What Im Saying Homie!! He Got Better Shit Than That!
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: lolpol on January 19, 2007, 06:37:52 PM
Crook is one of the sickest, but "So Damn Hood" and "Still Tha Row"? LOL
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Darksider on January 19, 2007, 07:17:37 PM
he is def one of the best but people like different things
i know people who listen to snoop and game but cant get into crooked i
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: proverbs aka DD on January 19, 2007, 08:43:25 PM
its not that crooked i isn't a good lyricst... but to me he's another Canibus.. Krs-one...

its almost like you can stick any verse of his on any of his songs and it'll make sense lol.. the only song he sound like he on topic was that song he did for ashanti's remix.

Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on January 19, 2007, 08:46:07 PM
thats unfortunate.

i think crooked i is a great lyricist, but a horrible song writer. i think that's why he doesn't catch on to the mainstream and his albums keep getting delayed.



I make beats and my rappers have the same problme right now. IM trying to teach em about bars and proper song structure
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on January 20, 2007, 01:03:10 AM
^^ Boss Music Lp is gonna change lotta heads. Yall just aint ready. ;D
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: J$crILLa on January 20, 2007, 02:26:46 AM
crooked is dope , but so r plenty of other rappers including snoop, game, dpg
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Scream @ Me on January 21, 2007, 12:06:12 PM
Crooked I = that dude.

Been listenin' to him for a good minute now. Can't wait till he drops something (official)..
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on January 21, 2007, 09:35:09 PM
One of the biggest producers of last year has laced the first single for B.O.S.S.  If you haven't told all your friends about Crook, you're about to be doing so after that hit drops!
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Tanjential on January 22, 2007, 01:14:10 AM
who's the producer?

-T
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on January 23, 2007, 03:05:11 PM
who's the producer?

-T

This, you are gonna have to wait on.
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Bojakabo on January 24, 2007, 12:09:06 AM
yeah, i don't think crook's artistry is lacking at all. it's all on the business/politic side of things that he's an idiot.

he has many valid points in how he criticizes, but he cuts himself out of a lot of circles in his interviews.

-T

I feel u, hes gonna show in this year if hes capable of droppin the LP. Lotta crucial great news are coming from the camp so be onna lookout.

damn if this guy is saying 'if' i don't think we'll see crooked'd lp till bush is outta office.

-T


Ok. Let me make it simple. Crooked I IS releasing CD this year...the wait is over  ;D

BOSS lp is revolutionary.

okey..hmm..now u have said it..soo..i hope yure right :)
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: J$crILLa on January 24, 2007, 12:23:11 AM
i really hope he drops a damn cd before he is completly washed up
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on January 24, 2007, 04:03:59 PM
i really hope he drops a damn cd before he is completly washed up

He is far from washed up.  After hearing some of this shit, I am convinced he is at the peak of his career.
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Tanjential on January 24, 2007, 04:11:21 PM
i really hope he drops a damn cd before he is completly washed up

He is far from washed up.  After hearing some of this shit, I am convinced he is at the peak of his career.

how FUCKING sad is it that someone arguably at the peak of their career doesn't even have an album out!

-T
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: late night on January 24, 2007, 05:07:20 PM
best crook tracks imo boom boom clap, (a must to listen to if you have a sound system in your car) still bossin, so damn hood (even though sisqo a fag) also the first couple of tracks off of young boss vol 2.
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Michael on January 24, 2007, 05:45:19 PM
i really hope he drops a damn cd before he is completly washed up

He is far from washed up.  After hearing some of this shit, I am convinced he is at the peak of his career.

how FUCKING sad is it that someone arguably at the peak of their career doesn't even have an album out!

-T
well a lot of rappers that coem out with explosive debuts were at the top of the career...so crook is kinda jus before that stage so beware lol
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on January 24, 2007, 09:27:26 PM
i really hope he drops a damn cd before he is completly washed up

He is far from washed up.  After hearing some of this shit, I am convinced he is at the peak of his career.

how FUCKING sad is it that someone arguably at the peak of their career doesn't even have an album out!

-T
well a lot of rappers that coem out with explosive debuts were at the top of the career...so crook is kinda jus before that stage so beware lol

Exactly.  Keep listening, and get ready. 

Exit Virgin and Deathrow; Enter Dynasty and the true birth of a career
2004: the beginning
2005: the hype
2006: the preparation
2007: the explosion (aka the beginning part 2)

I.D.R. Infiltrate.Destory.Rebuild
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: BIGG-A on January 25, 2007, 08:57:52 AM
Crooked I was at his best a couple years ago. Today I dont think he's that good.
But thats just me, Not really feeling his mixtapes. But I got much love for him, Hopin he will drop that one song that brings him back to that old status.  He should of dropped a album years ago. It might be to late now. Will see.
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Tanjential on January 25, 2007, 10:13:15 AM
heard leave us alone a little bit ago,dope shit. dude can write songs.

-T
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on January 25, 2007, 11:47:03 AM
Crooked changed his style trough the years cause he didnt want to be labeld as battle rapper, but its like this, when dude drops sth lyrical people sayin damn this shit is fire but he will not sell records people who aint diggin this lyrical shit aint gonna buy his album, then dude makes sth like BOOM BOOM CLAP and CALI BOYS and here we go: damn this shit aint as crooked used to be, dude fell of i aint gonna be buyin that ish, he needs to make shit like djs and mcs and rap killers lol..

Album is gonna be hot thats all, great song writing over some bangin and emotive beats.
Title: Re: I never wanna listen to Crooked I Again
Post by: Tanjential on January 25, 2007, 04:52:21 PM
Crooked changed his style trough the years cause he didnt want to be labeld as battle rapper, but its like this, when dude drops sth lyrical people sayin damn this shit is fire but he will not sell records people who aint diggin this lyrical shit aint gonna buy his album, then dude makes sth like BOOM BOOM CLAP and CALI BOYS and here we go: damn this shit aint as crooked used to be, dude fell of i aint gonna be buyin that ish, he needs to make shit like djs and mcs and rap killers lol..



truth +1

-T