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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Tanjential on February 09, 2007, 02:10:30 AM
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You know...it's interesting. I'm only up to 'sexy dance' so I haven't listened to it all, but I've gotten familiar with the album up to that point and
a) there are definitely some bangers, been there done that is classic...I smoked a blunt to blunt time tonight, shit was awesome. Thank you for that moment, wouldn't have happened without your help.
b)Since I never heard this album in its entirety before, when people would diss it as a flop I would say "it wasn't even a dre album, it's a compilation" but he CLEARLY portrays the record as the continuation of the chronic-doggystyle-dogg food "like we always do about this time" legacy.
c) I don't know if you saw my post about mafioso rap, but this record is more support for my thoughts on that.
d)It feels like a lot of "think" and not alot of "feel" which is hard to avoid with compilations cause noone gets really fleshed out in compilations. Dre tries hard to make banging hardcore but still positive rap and it's often hard to do it without it sounding kind of corny but it's a damn admirable effort. stuff like east coast west coast killas kinda shows how in this album, the whole isn't equal to the sum of its parts in the sense that you can get the best rappers out there, hire and train talented funky producers, cover r and b and hip hop and try to make a new message the facts remain: 1.you can't create a movement with a compilation, it would have to be done with a strong album statement
2. Real chemistry is necessary, not just throwing bunch of dope people together.Like did anyone ever really think a Group Therapy album was gonna happen? It was just a really cool stunt, yeah Nas and B real both rap on there but how necessary is it to put one of them on a song with the other as opposed to some other dope rapper on there with a song?
BUT nonetheless, there's alot of bangers and I haven't finished yet. I'm all for a good love song/sex song but alot of the love/sex songs are so un-unique. But alot of the rap stuff is bangers, even east coast west coast killas is classic but it just feels very calculated more than passionate, which is kinda how I like my art but calculated shit can be cool, just not classic.
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Just like 3/4 sing of this album.
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there are a few bangers like "been there done that" ...i allways loved the trakk and never understood why people hated on it... but overall the whole style of the compilation is not what people like or expected......same with the wash soundtrack
dre can and should do better
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I can't hate an album that has Been There Done That on it. It's better then any track on 2001. I don't know why the Ras Kass Ghetto Fabulous song didn't work. At the end of Been There Done That when the beat switches up it's so cool but Ghetto Fabulous it wasn't like that.
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could've been alot better, sounded rushed to me Dre wanted to put something out there quickly soon after he left the Row
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that king t joint was dope too ...
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the King T joint was a good preview of thy kingdom come. imagine if all the stuff hinted at on the record would have worked out? dre'd have produced an RC record. Thy kingdom come would have come out when it should have. dre'd have produced and RBX record(blunt time is too fucking good)....woulda been a different game if the sound woulda caught on. from what i've heard so far, this record is stronger than the wash, alot more dre beats for one thing.
-T
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not the best of Dre's work. still knock it a few times, but when your the same person who was the main force behind the 2 chronics, its a dissapointment of potential.
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not the best of Dre's work. still knock it a few times, but when your the same person who was the main force behind the 2 chronics, its a dissapointment of potential.
to me it's lack of power as an album statement doesn't make the bangers not as good as any other dre bangers so to me that still says alot of good about the record. to me the simple way to put it is that it's a compilation disguised as an album, not an album. It seems it was designed that way to cover dre's ass, if it was succesful it had his name on it(didn't it go plat?) and if it wasn't he's like "that's not my album" so he wins either way.
-T
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I don't think RBX really got a chance to be as big as he coulda been and now it's too late since it's all about the south( ::)). Shit RBX Files was nuts without being on a big label or anything. Imagine a Dre produced RBX in 93.
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Str8 Gone
Been There Done That
that's all I like from it
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he was goin thru a lot of shit through that time so i can understand but people needa actually say that the shit was WACK man im sorry he could done a lot better but, been there done that was crazy this is when he started doing the eastcoast thing with nas and the firm which FLOPPED. but
wut happened to some of the people on the album
like
L.A.W(lyrical assault weapon)which he didn't assault shit dude was corny
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he was goin thru a lot of shit through that time so i can understand but people needa actually say that the shit was WACK man im sorry he could done a lot better but, been there done that was crazy this is when he started doing the eastcoast thing with nas and the firm which FLOPPED. but
wut happened to some of the people on the album
like
L.A.W(lyrical assault weapon)which he didn't assault shit dude was corny
you should check my mafioso rap post. it's people like yourself's thoughts I want in that post.
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im guessin u didn't like my reply
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you replied to the mafioso rap thread?
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bro i dont' kno wut the fuck u talkin bout man ??? mafioso rap thread?
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bro i dont' kno wut the fuck u talkin bout man ??? mafioso rap thread?
I mad a thread in the west coast connection forum that says 'mafioso rap, the firm, Bishop, hittman, dre" and it talks about the firm flopping and stuff related to that, I'd like your thoughts.
-T
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whats with you just recently discovering all these old ass albums?
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even when i was heavily into rap in the late 90's/early 00's I never copped the aftermath compilation cause i heard so much bad shit about it. the album came up in discussion here the other day, and xander and seer said as a dre fan I needed to hear that shit to decide if i would buy it or not. still haven't gotten past sexy dance.
-T
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can u give the link to the mafioso rap thread man then i'll give my thoughts