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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on February 15, 2007, 04:50:56 PM
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I made a thread about Hip-Hop Is Dead and the conversation turned to alot of heads at the forum voicin their opinion that Nas' "I Am" album is underrated. So I gave it another listen, and it's still trash. How ya'll listen to it? People mentioned "New York State Of Mind 2" as being one of the bangers on that album. How you figure?
I only find one listenable track on there, and that's "Nas Is Like".
Some of the songs were absolutely unlistenable like "Hate Me Now" with Puffy, and "K.I.S.S.I.N.G."
Nas went through a wack phase after the success of It Was Written. He started to go to far into the Italian Mobster persona. Check out the Firm album for example. That was released on Aftermath! Dre was producing tracks for it, and it was still wack! "Phone Tap" is the only really creative track. And the only notable verse was Canibus' verse on the album. That verse was straight fire! One of the illest verses I've ever heard.
Nas didn't come back around until he released his second classic album "Stillmatic" with "Illmatic" being his first classic and best album.
btw, Nas has always been my favorite East Coast rapper, and his new album is the most important album of the year.
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I Am = 4/5
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thread starter shares my exact feelings! although i do like the dmx track on I Am too
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Very on point... Props.
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Am i the only one who still listens to The Firm album in whole almost regularly and thinks its a classic?
I Am has some good tracks too its not completely trash.
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I used to think I Am was a good album but then i gave it another listen 1 day and wondered why i thought this. NY State Of Mind 2 and Nas Is Like are the only bareable tracks on there.
I think THe Firm album is bangin in some ways. Basically the Dre productions are all quality but the others are not up there with Dre's at all. Although i think Executive Decision is a good but only a good song.
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I Am is extremely hit and miss. The good songs are extremely good, Nas is Like is the best song in Nas's career and a top 10 rap song of all time. Then there are some really horrible songs on that album too. That album just doesn't have a direction.
Personally I like NYSOM 2, I like it more than the first.
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You guys don't like "Undying Love"? It's probably his best storytelling song.
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AND I dont know how u dont like favor for a favor. two legends on a track.
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"Life Is What You Make It" is pretty sick.
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tbh i loved both albums...
I Am... was a gd records IMO....favor for a favor was a bit cheesy but it was still tight as fuck...same with Nas Is Like....not a fan of NYSOM2 but sure...
and The Firm album for me is deffo a personal classic! From the intro using the Once Upon A Time IN America beat (my fave film) to the ultimate AZ verses on it.....very very gd underated album...
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ny state of mind pt 2 is sick bryan, u just have no appreciation for urban life. nas is like is classic and hate me now, well you're just too pussy to really feel dominance as a man and be hated and envied. i guess it really does take alpha motherfuckers to appreciate hip hop to its fullest extent
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i´m bumping I Am right now lol. there´s a whole bunch of dope songs on that bitch.
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I haven't listened to the whole "I Am", but tracks like "Undying Love", "Favor For A Favor", "Nas Is Like" are great to me.That song with Alliyah was good too.Come to think of it, I have to check the wholoe album real soon
The Firm album was good, although I completely understand people who were expecting more.Dre's shit was on point there, Trackmaster I think could've done better, some more AZ wouldn't have hurt anybody and there were some tracks that didn't make the album and should have ("Fist Full Of Dollaz", "Street Dreams" aka Hope...)Hell, even Affirmative Action Pt. III would've been dope as hell
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I Am's a dope album nothing gorundbreaking but it's got bare dope tracks such as the ones with Scarface, Dmx, NYSOM2, HMN, and if i remember correctly the intro's pretty dope, and that's not even mentioning 'Nas is like', it grew on me as i listened to but it's a solid 3.75/5 album.
I got The Firms album for xmas cos i'd always been curious about it and i always seem to get bored of it, i still haven't managed to listen to it all the way thru, and i was really dissapointed with it...
O yea, very off topic but does ne1 have 'Ice Cube - Higher Learning' track offa the OST of Higher learning, props for any help
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Threadstarter dont like NY State of Mind 2??? :o Wow, I can see how people dont like the album as a whole, but wow
And no love for Undying Love? i think that's the best joint on the whole album. My friend told me he was ready to throw his cd in the trash until he heard that song
I think I Am is a decent album, tho the bootleg version was far far superior. I rate it better than Nastradamus, Gods Son and Streets Disciple
The Firm is trash, but you cant put that on Nas
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Threadstarter dont like NY State of Mind 2??? :o Wow, I can see how people dont like the album as a whole, but wow
And no love for Undying Love? i think that's the best joint on the whole album. My friend told me he was ready to throw his cd in the trash until he heard that song
I think I Am is a decent album, tho the bootleg version was far far superior. I rate it better than Nastradamus, Gods Son and Streets Disciple
The Firm is trash, but you cant put that on Nas
the dre tracks on firm are fire. i don't see how tracks like untouchable and firm fiaso aren't as good as phone tap sonically. Hajj abdul, you should look at my mafioso rap thread from a week or two ago, I'd like your thoughts.
i am as a whole is eh, but there's a substantial amount of good songs. some of his rapping is still really amazing like 'undying love' shit is crazy.
-T
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Nas was still in that Mafioso stage with I Am. I agree with the threadstarter but you have to understand the original I Am was heavily bootlegged. The majority of the songs on that album are new. Almost the entire Lost Tapes album he put out was supposed to be on I Am so Nas had to make a bunch of tracks so he could get the album out in time. I still dig the album but the original would have been a classic album. And it was supposed to be a double album. It even says it in the booklet on the Firm album.
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Nas was still in that Mafioso stage with I Am. I agree with the threadstarter but you have to understand the original I Am was heavily bootlegged. The majority of the songs on that album are new. Almost the entire Lost Tapes album he put out was supposed to be on I Am so Nas had to make a bunch of tracks so he could get the album out in time. I still dig the album but the original would have been a classic album. And it was supposed to be a double album. It even says it in the booklet on the Firm album.
damn,i really need to cop lost tapes.
-T
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Nas was still in that Mafioso stage with I Am. I agree with the threadstarter but you have to understand the original I Am was heavily bootlegged. The majority of the songs on that album are new. Almost the entire Lost Tapes album he put out was supposed to be on I Am so Nas had to make a bunch of tracks so he could get the album out in time. I still dig the album but the original would have been a classic album. And it was supposed to be a double album. It even says it in the booklet on the Firm album.
damn,i really need to cop lost tapes.
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Yeah you do. It's dope.
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Am i the only one who still listens to The Firm album in whole almost regularly and thinks its a classic?
I Am has some good tracks too its not completely trash.
I like it, its not great but its good.
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Am i the only one who still listens to The Firm album in whole almost regularly and thinks its a classic?
I Am has some good tracks too its not completely trash.
I like it, its not great but its good.
Yo who's the Mary J looking bird in your sig, and do you have more of her?? :P
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The one on left or right?
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THE RIGHT
Aint no white chick lookin like no Mary J
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Am i the only one who still listens to The Firm album in whole almost regularly and thinks its a classic?
I Am has some good tracks too its not completely trash.
Completely agree,
chill
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i've always thought I am was a great album...a lot of good songs...K.I.S.S.I.N.G. is the only song i thought was completely wack...favor for a favor, you won't see me tonight, ny state of mind 2, we will survive (my fav off the album), dr knockboot, money is my bitch...and nas is like...shit...i remember the first time i heard nas is like...i still get the same great feeling when i listen to it now...classic track
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i cant believe no one like small world, one of my fav nas tracks.
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i cant believe no one like small world, one of my fav nas tracks.
i never owned i am but my friend toured me through the album several weeks ago and I remember liking damn near every track, i probably liked that one too.
-T
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nas is like is classic and hate me now, well you're just too pussy to really feel dominance as a man
lol
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Nas is an interesting dichotomy like that. On one hand he’s so creative and insightful it makes his talent incredible and ahead of the curve but on the other hand he can come off so wack, so hard to the point where you’re embarrassed for him. Not to mention some of his style and business decisions are so laughable it makes you really wonder how a smart guy can do shit like that.
He’s rapping about how hip-hop is dead and yet he’s arguably one of the worst offenders from the east coast of the “diamond flashin’” and “crystal sippin’” that opened the door for that watered down, flashy, bullshit rap we see today. He’s just one of those self contradicting artists that always changes his mind or flat out makes bad decisions from the get go then has to go back and fix them.
Don’t get me wrong I like Nas and when the music is good it’s good… but man, when it’s bad it is definitely bad. It's like he's always struggling to stay consistent, both with his music and his thoughts. He’s just hit or miss like that and I find it easier for me to listen to him if I don’t read what he has to say in interviews and if I take his declarations, collaborations and musical phases with an open mind and a grain of salt.
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I love I Am, not his best album, but imo its consistant with all his other albums. Im not taking Infinate's opinion too serious on this topic because he's obviously closed minded on a wide array of subject matter.
anyway, Dr. Knockboots is my favorite tracks on there, Ny State of Mind Pt. 2 is waay better than the first. ....Small World and undying love, and Nas is like, All Great tracks.