West Coast Connection Forum
Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Noname on February 21, 2007, 04:44:04 AM
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Like Don Jacob is doing with basketball and american football, lets do the same thing with football. Lets choose a GOAT player to each position on the football field.
Lets start with GK and move to the forwards. If enough football supporters are down with this, we should do it. But first we have to decide how were gonna play
4-4-2, 4-3-3 etc.
So yall down with this?
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HAHA, damn, this is getting out of hand :P ;D
But yeah, why not, I'm down ;)
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You might wanna just put it into the other thread.
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Yea we need to get our own sticky football thread.
But i just wanted to see if enough people are down with this
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I tihnk you could do best player for every position like
GK
Sweeper
Full-back
Cenre-back
Defensive Mid (Holding Midfielder)
Central Mid (All-round Midfielder) (Such as Michael Essien)
Attacking Mid (Playmaker)
Winger
Center Forward
Second Striker (Such as Dennis Bergkamp)
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Thats also a good idea. Or we could make a GOAT Dubcc dreamteam. With the best player for each position.
But lets see what everyone else thinks. It dont matter for me.
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Im down for whatever... 8)
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Easiest way IMO is a simple 4-4-2:
________ SC ____ SC
__LM ___ CM ____ CM __ RM
__LB ___ CB_____ CB ___ RB
___________ GK
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Yea thats what i was thinking
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u mean soccer supporters
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u mean soccer supporters
Get out of here, you cant vote. You not a football supporter.
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u mean soccer supporters
why dont you stick to your american rugby
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u mean soccer supporters
Come on, its getting old now... are you 12 ?
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So we gonna do this?
I think the best idea is to make a GOAT team. We gonna play 4-4-2, and we gonna start with the GK, and move forward from there.
We should give people a week to vote, and everyone's gonna make a top 5 and the player with the most votes wins. Simple as that.
#1 get 5 point #2 get 4 points and so on.
Everyone agrees with this?
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^ yeh GP, im down with this idea.. also like someone else mentioned we should get our own football sticky thread, seeing as the yanks have sticky threaded nearly every sport in the states
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Yea thats a good idea, im sure NIK will sticky the thread.
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Great idea i can see a lot of conflict in this ;D
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Yeah I'm down.
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I got a better for voting, to make it more accurate. We start at one position, at first GK. People give first their top 5, after that, the first 2 players are nominated. And everyone votes between these 2. It takes a little more time, but it makes it a lot more accurate. Otherwise you would get so many different players, tie's maybe a difference of 1 and 2 between players.
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Another good idea is an XI of current players, with only one player per nationallity.
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dope idea, this definately will be added to the dubcc sports hall of fame
remember it's not just going to be basketball and football(s) the hall of fame will be continuously expanding
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Personally I think you should do as they do for Basketball and have the GOAT for every position in the team.
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Yea thats the plan. So we can make a GOAT team. But we start position for position.
And i think the best way to vote is like this:
I got a better idea for voting, to make it more accurate. We start at one position, at first GK. People give first their top 5, after that, the first 2 players are nominated. And everyone votes between these 2. It takes a little more time, but it makes it a lot more accurate. Otherwise you would get so many different players, tie's maybe a difference of 1 and 2 between players.
So the winner of GK goes on goal, and so on. So for example you get a team like this.
____________ Kuyt ____ Kalou
Leonardo ___ De Guzman____ Ono __ Castelen
Van Bronckhorts ___ Konterman_____ Fraser ___ Van Gobbel
______________ Dudek_____________
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Ravens should have won this year
sorry but them is talkin about soccer
read b4 u post son
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If you do it, ya'll should do it the same as Jake did for basketball and football...
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I havent really bein payin much attention to what Jacob has been doin, sum1 wanna clarify? BUt this sounds like a good idea...
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Look a page back or so. Check all the polls made by Jake...You just gotta make a qualification thread where people choose their 10 best by position, then create 1 vs. 1 polls based on the winnners and keep eliminating players by round until the finals (round 5), which decides the GOAT...
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How you gon do a GOAT when people started following at different times?
I meant, we should put a time scale, say from 1990 or something..
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Yeah I know, it's hard to judge someone you've never actually seen play.
Are we gonna put Pele in there just on the basis of his reputation?
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Yeah I know, it's hard to judge someone you've never actually seen play.
Are we gonna put Pele in there just on the basis of his reputation?
Exactly..
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Thats a good idea, but if we pick 1990 we miss some great players. But fuck it, we could make it more recent. I suggest we make a GOAT team of recent players (playing right now) and maybe later an all time goat team.
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yeh a 1990 upwards team would be for the best, it'd be too hard to comment on players before that because the game has challenged so much and all you have to go by is players reps and what they had achieved.
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Ok so 1990 it is. BUt that dont reall make it an GOAT team. But what the hell, lets do this.
So we gonna tonight. I dont really understood how Don Jacob did the voting, but we could do it like i explained before.
WE gonna start at the goalkeeper first. Everybody gives their top 5, the 2 with the most votes advance to the second and final thread, where people can vote betweet those 2. And we should give people 3 days to vote for the top 5 and 2 days to vote for the final one (maybe more depends how fast everyone is).
So if no one got anything more to say we gonna start with the goalkeeper tonight.
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Ok so 1990 it is. BUt that dont reall make it an GOAT team. But what the hell, lets do this.
So we gonna tonight. I dont really understood how Don Jacob did the voting, but we could do it like i explained before.
WE gonna start at the goalkeeper first. Everybody gives their top 5, the 2 with the most votes advance to the second and final thread, where people can vote betweet those 2. And we should give people 3 days to vote for the top 5 and 2 days to vote for the final one (maybe more depends how fast everyone is).
So if no one got anything more to say we gonna start with the goalkeeper tonight.
yeh no problems from my end, lets get this shit crackin.. so where do we post our top 5 players in the thread or in a pm?
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Were gonna do it in a thread so everyone can see it. But i already sent a pm to NIK, to make the vote thread sticky,
so we can use one thread.
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alrite nice one homie.. ill start thinking bout this and report back later on tonight :)
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^^That's not how it was done though, that's something completely different...To qualify for WCC's Hall of Fame, you have to do it along the lines of how Jake did, and it should include ALL players by position, not just 1990+...Otherwise it's not even the true GOAT. But ya'll can do it how you want, Jake's way is just the official way to enter the Hall of Fame. It's not that hard to understand, just look a couple pages back at all the threads Jake started, and see how he did it...PeACe
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^^That's not how it was done though, that's something completely different...To qualify for WCC's Hall of Fame, you have to do it along the lines of how Jake did, and it should include ALL players by position, not just 1990+...Otherwise it's not even the true GOAT. But ya'll can do it how you want, Jake's way is just the official way to enter the Hall of Fame. It's not that hard to understand, just look a couple pages back at all the threads Jake started, and see how he did it...PeACe
its ok to do the american sports that why seeing as how most of your sports are only played by americans anyway.. but football is a huge global sport which has been around for a lot longer then the american sports soo to define a goat team is nearly impossible when you look into the number of coutries, time era's and legends that have passed in and out of the game.
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yea thats the case. Cuz if we would do an alltime team, then it wouldnt be a suprise anymore who would win. So from 1990 it would be a lot more intersting.
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If it wont be a surprise, then yall know who the GOAT is for every position, correct?...Shit, we already know Magic and Jordan are gunna win greatest PG and greatest SG for basketball, but we still did it just to have it official...I don't think it should be that much of a problem determining who was the best, that's what the polls and qualification rounds are for...You can select 10 players for every position. It's not like there haven't been different eras in basketball or football, but we still managed to do an all-time great with that...
And if you're that much of a soccer fan, you should know enough about the history and legends of the sport to determine which was best...PeACe
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i think having it 1990 and on is a bad idea
my vision for the dubcc hall of fame is to induct the GOATS FIRST. like nik already said we already know that magic and jordan are going in but ...there's a chance that they won't
with soccer like you guys said , it goes all over the world and has been around longer....hence making the debate more interesting, so for now....stick to making it a GOAT. when we did it for the all time QB we covered almost 100 years basically. brady for the 00's , favre in the 90's , montana for the 80's , bradshaw in the 70's, starr in the 60's , and so on with YA tittle,
my rules were no rules....except no bias, so if you want to leave pele off because you never seen him play that's FINE, but don't have a whole position with all Manchester united players , ya dig?? that way the lists are more interesting and personal...but at the same time have more credibility
also with rankings the way i did it the top seed faces the lowest seed.....then when need be for bye's the best performer gets the benefit of that.
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I dont really have a problem with either way. For me alltime or 1990's is good. Lets see what everybody else think of it.
I dont really understand how you did the voting, but this is how we gon do it.
Edit: let me think a little more on how to do this.
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There are 2 ways to do this.
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First you make a top 5, where the #1 = 5 points and so on. After that the 2 players with the most votes go to the final thread. Where there is a poll between those 2.
The one with the most votes wints.
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First everyone makes a list with 5 names, the 2 players who were the most on everyones list advance to the final thread. Where there is a poll between those 2 , and the one the most votes wins.
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lol, why does it matter if makes a "Hall Of Fame", 80% of dudes on dubcc dont give a fuck about Football anyways.
Do it the way you want, but from all-time is too damn hard and innacurate. How you gonna chose a legend that you have only seen highlights from? That's no way to judge and compare a player, not in my eyes anyway.
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Fuck it, just do GOATs for just now.
I'm sure everyone will have seen enough to form an opinion of who is and who isn't GOAT material.
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Another problem with the 4-4-2 way of doing this is then you have the 2 greatest CM's ever, great defenders ever, strikers ever.
Kinda the opposite direction of what we were going for.
Trying to find the greatest player of every position.
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Personally I think you should look at this page of all the positions available and take most from there and decide the best players.
Otherwise you could simplify:
GK
Def
Mid
Str
The 4 greatest of the below positions. I think the 4-4-2 idea will not work out.
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^ i know what you mean, but i still think he can work. after everyone has voted on there lists then the top 22 players go into a different pooling system then from there we go again until we reach a final starting 11
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By doing just one defender, 1 midfielder then you it wouldn't be equal IMO, as can you equally compare a full backs position to a central defender? IMO you can't and I think that it should be a GOAT for each position but we would need to agree on the positions
Do you break it down to a defensive central midfielder and an attacking central midfielder, do we only pick one central midfielder or do we pick 2 central midfielders no matter their style?
It'll be harder to do this than the American sports one IMO due to the US sports having specific positions that get filled at all (most) times
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Thats a good point.
I say we let the first 2 with the most votes take the spot. And after the qualification round we make a poll with 4 players, where people can vote for 2.
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Yeah that makes sense, it'll get too complicated if we split the positions down further than that. So the two best Center Backs, Central Midfielders and Strikers will make the team.