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Title: Bill Crosby Attacks Tupac Shakur
Post by: Navaveli on February 23, 2007, 07:00:59 AM
Crosby says some bad things about Pac, my opinion, yes he sold drugs but he had to with the situation he was in at the time, which was poverty, read Pacs life Crosby before u start talking shit... everyone makes mistakes in they life  but Pac did so much to give back that the mistakes he made are way less to what he has given bacc... Crosby what the fuck do u do... fuck Crosby

Quote from Crosby:

"Typical of Cosby’s style of stinging and controversial commentary, he also faulted the love shown to the late rapper Tupac Shakur. He said it was crazy for Shakur, who was fatally shot in Las Vegas in 1996, and his mother to enjoy the proceeds from Shakur’s drug sales.

“In the book, ‘To Momma With Love,’ or something like that, he is so happy that he’s able to take money from selling cocaine and give the money to his mother,” Cosby said. “How wonderful. Isn’t that wonderful. You’ve got to be kidding. How many lives have you ruined selling packets? How many mothers are not going to go to work because they want to snort? How many dead mothers because of crack, how many babies we got to make turn around because they are crack babies?”

“Hang up the pictures of the people’s lives you ruined,” Cosby declared.



Title: Re: Bill Crosby Attacks Tupac Shakur
Post by: mrtonguetwista on February 23, 2007, 07:21:37 AM
It's COSBY
Title: Re: Bill Crosby Attacks Tupac Shakur
Post by: big mat on February 23, 2007, 07:36:55 AM
damn, i wanna see that movie ^^
Title: Re: Bill Crosby Attacks Tupac Shakur
Post by: mrtonguetwista on February 23, 2007, 07:38:21 AM
Peep the trailer

www.ladyscarface.com

Trailer link at bottom of page
Title: Re: Bill Crosby Attacks Tupac Shakur
Post by: Mygla on February 23, 2007, 08:07:33 AM
I don't condone selling crack, now matter how fucked up your situation is... Is your life worth more than all the lives you're ruining with that shit?

Then again, I AM a white, middle-class boy, so wtf would I know about the inner city-struggles  ;)

But Pac wasn't the worst tho, he didn't glorify selling crack, he said he did it "because he had to"... and even tho I think that's bullshit, it's better than the way peeps like 50 & Game are portraying... them being the shit because they sold some rocks...
Title: Re: Bill Crosby Attacks Tupac Shakur
Post by: shaydee on February 23, 2007, 08:30:09 AM
Pac spoke to the people, from the heart, not making the young fans sell crack, he was tellin them how bad like on crack is... Pac was on some black panther shit.
Title: Re: Bill Crosby Attacks Tupac Shakur
Post by: Davizz on February 23, 2007, 08:39:24 AM
Pac sold drugs for one week.
Title: Re: Bill Crosby Attacks Tupac Shakur
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on February 23, 2007, 08:48:11 AM
Peep the trailer

www.ladyscarface.com

Trailer link at bottom of page

seen
Title: Re: Bill Crosby Attacks Tupac Shakur
Post by: smp4life on February 23, 2007, 08:55:20 AM
Cosby speaks his mind just like Pac used to.
Title: Re: Bill Crosby Attacks Tupac Shakur
Post by: R-Tistic on February 23, 2007, 09:03:37 AM
I mean, you can't really get mad at what he says.

I definitely don't think Pac was a big time dealer in any way at all...but I do think people seem to worship him, even for his bad ways, just because it's "cool to do" you know? He didn't glorify it as much as 50 or Biggie especially, just as Mygla said...and in his typical ways, Pac contradicted himself in many different ways...on one song saying he "had to push crack"...but then on changes he said "but you made it in a sleezy way, sellin crack to the kids". So I would actually go after 50, Wu-Tang, and everybody else who reaaaaally makes it seem like pushin crack is the hottest thing to do, just because they emphasized it a whole lot more, and never even considered speakin against it.
Title: Re: Bill Crosby Attacks Tupac Shakur
Post by: Sanford - V. President of the Dangerous Crew Movement on February 23, 2007, 09:11:47 AM
bill acting like 2pac was the only nigga selling(if he was).

if you dont sell, somebody else will. 

just hand me my jello and we cool.
Title: Re: Bill Crosby Attacks Tupac Shakur
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on February 23, 2007, 09:53:54 AM
Pac contradicted himself in many different ways...on one song saying he "had to push crack"...but then on changes he said "but you made it in a sleezy way, sellin crack to the kids".
He didn't contradict himself. He was saying the same thing in both songs. He had to get payed. In "Changes" he was just reflecting on the negative the occurs because of it.
Title: Re: Bill Crosby Attacks Tupac Shakur
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on February 23, 2007, 09:54:59 AM
Then again, I AM a white, middle-class boy, so wtf would I know about the inner city-struggles  ;)
LOL. +1 for being real with yourself. I now value your opinion more then anyone on dubcc that claims they know about the hood. ;)
Title: Re: Bill Crosby Attacks Tupac Shakur
Post by: R-Tistic on February 23, 2007, 10:22:51 AM
Pac contradicted himself in many different ways...on one song saying he "had to push crack"...but then on changes he said "but you made it in a sleezy way, sellin crack to the kids".
He didn't contradict himself. He was saying the same thing in both songs. He had to get payed. In "Changes" he was just reflecting on the negative the occurs because of it.

Well to be real, if that's the case, he never did glorify it to the level that other rappers do. I just felt that was a contradiction because he knows how bad it is...but he "had to" as if there were NO OTHER options...and for those that know his story, we know he was a dancer and actor even before he rapped, so it's like damm, when did he really push, and did he really have no other options?
Title: Re: Bill Crosby Attacks Tupac Shakur
Post by: Juronimo on February 23, 2007, 10:26:55 AM
I give Cosby props for speaking his mind. The thing with 2pac is people idolize him for his negative images, the thug image and all that, not for the positive aspects of his music. They focus on the THUG 2pac and they imitate that. You can see that with all the rappers that have come out since his death, all emulating that image.

Cosby could have gotten a lot deeper with his commentary than he did.

"If you really want to be like Pac, read shorty read" - Shock G
Title: Re: Bill Crosby Attacks Tupac Shakur
Post by: Furor Teutonicus on February 23, 2007, 11:25:18 AM
It sounds to me like he just wants to get attention. ::)
2/3 of the rappers claim that they sold drugs and are proud of it.

So I ask myself why he blames Pac, he's nearly the only rapper that mentions the negative sides of it
oh and somebody should tell this guy that you shouldn't attack dead people because they cant' defend themselves
Title: Re: Bill Crosby Attacks Tupac Shakur
Post by: R-Tistic on February 23, 2007, 11:33:56 AM
I give Cosby props for speaking his mind. The thing with 2pac is people idolize him for his negative images, the thug image and all that, not for the positive aspects of his music. They focus on the THUG 2pac and they imitate that. You can see that with all the rappers that have come out since his death, all emulating that image.

Cosby could have gotten a lot deeper with his commentary than he did.

"If you really want to be like Pac, read shorty read" - Shock G

Yeah for real....I am watchin BET, and they JUUUUUUUUUST showed a commercial for some documentary bout Pac called "Thug angel".
Title: Re: Bill Crosby Attacks Tupac Shakur
Post by: Navaveli on February 23, 2007, 12:41:55 PM
I give Cosby props for speaking his mind. The thing with 2pac is people idolize him for his negative images, the thug image and all that, not for the positive aspects of his music. They focus on the THUG 2pac and they imitate that. You can see that with all the rappers that have come out since his death, all emulating that image.

Cosby could have gotten a lot deeper with his commentary than he did.

"If you really want to be like Pac, read shorty read" - Shock G

You have a good point but at the sametime people have to understand that some of these street cats are selling drugs just to get by, some are selling cuz they enjoy doing that shit, u see Pac didnt even have a home at the time he was selling drugs, he had to do something to stay alive, yes its a bad thing but at the time does a nigga really have any choice... and ur right they look at the negative side of Pac, the thug image but u know what thats what makes tupac, he has both sides but u have to take in fact that Tupac is just like any other human being who has a good side and bad side but see Pacs bad side is becus of the situation he is in, just like a lot of other blacks in the community, no  jobs and racism so has a reason for the bad side... at the sametime is was making positive strides to help this same community that created the bad side. Its much more deeper than people think but they dont look at the overall picture of Tupac, u have to take everything into account... so many other rappers glorify it in the wrong way... like Young Jeezy talking about moving bricks but is that dude homeless or that was part of his grind but has he been in the gutter.. i dont think he has so cosby should be attacking him not Pac...
Title: Re: Bill Crosby Attacks Tupac Shakur
Post by: Citizen-Y on February 23, 2007, 03:21:47 PM
damn, i wanna see that movie ^^

Hell yeah, i'm ordering that shit
Title: Re: Bill Crosby Attacks Tupac Shakur
Post by: Samoan Enforcer on February 23, 2007, 03:58:27 PM
It's COSBY
Title: Re: Bill Crosby Attacks Tupac Shakur
Post by: swangin and bangin on February 23, 2007, 04:03:34 PM
I don't condone selling crack, now matter how fucked up your situation is... Is your life worth more than all the lives you're ruining with that shit?

Then again, I AM a white, middle-class boy, so wtf would I know about the inner city-struggles  ;)

nah doggie,
maufuckas do it to get rich, if u fucked up enough to buy it thats yo problem, it aint nobody elses fault.