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Title: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: Super_Cuz on October 14, 2001, 02:11:54 AM
Fuck LL Cool J being tha G.O.A.T,2pac/Makaveli is.If y'all hate pac,what tha fuck is up wit ya?Holla back wit yo opinon.
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Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: Hittman on October 14, 2001, 02:17:05 AM
Erm, Okay I Am Pretty Sure That LL Cool J Could Be Considered As A Contender For Been The Greatest of All Times...But He Never Could be The GOAT. Theres Only One MC That Will Ever Do What Is Recommended Of The Greatest Of All Times And That Is:

[size=14]TUPAC SHAKUR[/size]
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: jay on October 14, 2001, 02:35:54 AM
i know somebody whos better than pac
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: Hittman on October 14, 2001, 02:40:58 AM

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i know somebody whos better than pac


Go On Then....

Damn I Wanna Hear This
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: Joachim on October 14, 2001, 02:44:57 AM
KRS One imho

That doesnt mean that i dont think Pac was great, he was, just not the greatest in my eyes...
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: C_R_O_N_I_C_I on October 14, 2001, 03:43:26 AM
The ONE and ONLY........JAMES BROWN!
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: Don Mega on October 14, 2001, 03:46:42 AM
2Pac no doubt!

"My adversaries crumble/when we rumble/it's a catastrophe/i flaunt revenge on bitch niggas/that blaaast at me"
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: Tha Kingpin on October 14, 2001, 03:54:12 AM
2pac is the G.O.A.T.
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Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on October 14, 2001, 05:30:59 AM
pac ...of course....
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: Trauma-san on October 14, 2001, 06:31:27 AM
Yo!

Check Out www.WCKillaz.com, M Dogg Wrote A Great Article AboutThis A While Back, He Went Over Everybody's Qualifications And Decided On....

Ah Hell Read The Article :)

Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: .:N-Imy:. on October 14, 2001, 06:33:16 AM

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Fuck LL Cool J being tha G.O.A.T,2pac/Makaveli is.If y'all hate pac,what tha fuck is up wit ya?Holla back wit yo opinon.
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I think a lot of people under-estimate the lyrical ability of LL Cool J...I mean LL Cool J was some lyricist and so was pac so I think LL Cool J has the right to call himself G.O.A.T I mean he is to a lot of people but of course the dedicated pac fans are gona say pac just like dedicated Big fans will say Bigs....I mean there's no winning...I think Pac was great for ringing his views, story's etc through his songs but if I were to choose between Pac and LL Cool J.....I dunno if would say they both should share it.....I mean I am a big Pac fan myself...bigger than I am of LL Cool J but I gotta respect LL cause he certainly can rime.

Conclusion - I would have to say they both deserve to have this title. They are both great lyricists and got threw wot they were trying to say on their song. If only we had great rappers like this going 2day....they could so easily fuck up people like Nelly, Ludacris, So Solid Crew.....man that sux. Hip-Pop sux. But staying on topic. They both deserve to hold the title as Greateast Of All Time
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: Bleech on October 14, 2001, 06:37:03 AM
RAKIM!!!!
No discrespect to Pac, but out of all the albums he's released, only 2 have been solid.  Hell if Pac was still alive, you'd probably be on here talkin bout how hard he fell off.  Most of his lyrics are just mindless thug bullshit, and he wasn't even a thug anyway.  Just a pretender.  Rakim will ALWAYS be the G.O.A.T.!!!
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: Trauma-san on October 14, 2001, 06:39:34 AM
Oh, I Think I'm Liking Bleech Better Than Most Of YOu Will, LOL  Pac Ain't God, Yall...    :o :o :o
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on October 14, 2001, 08:49:58 AM
LMAO @ Bleech. How the fuck can u say Pac were'nt no thug? You must of been locked away somewhere when u he was alive & kicking. & that "mindless thug bullshit" was what made him real.

G.O.A.T = Tupac Amaru Shakur
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: AlerG on October 14, 2001, 08:57:27 AM
Rakim
Krs
Jay-Z
or Pac
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Post by: ROCCY on October 14, 2001, 09:02:13 AM
Pac ....
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: Lil Jay on October 14, 2001, 09:12:25 AM
2pac

dr dre  ;)
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: jay on October 14, 2001, 09:24:29 AM

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Go On Then....

Damn I Wanna Hear This



THIS DICK!

;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: HBKid_Jr on October 14, 2001, 09:36:25 AM

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RAKIM!!!!
No discrespect to Pac, but out of all the albums he's released, only 2 have been solid.  Hell if Pac was still alive, you'd probably be on here talkin bout how hard he fell off.  Most of his lyrics are just mindless thug bullshit, and he wasn't even a thug anyway.  Just a pretender.  Rakim will ALWAYS be the G.O.A.T.!!!

True he has only two solid albums but he also has three classic albums in Me Against the World,  All Eyez on Me,  an Makaveli: Tha Don Killuminati 7 day theory
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: TheSheriff on October 14, 2001, 10:45:38 AM
Ice Cube

And yeah, Bleech has a point...Pac's like the Beatles, he never gets old because he was out of the game before he started falling off, he dropped in his prime.
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: bLaDe on October 14, 2001, 12:09:49 PM
2pac ... no doubt...

peace...

 -[bLaDe]
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: Doggystylin on October 14, 2001, 02:49:30 PM

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RAKIM!!!!
No discrespect to Pac, but out of all the albums he's released, only 2 have been solid.  Hell if Pac was still alive, you'd probably be on here talkin bout how hard he fell off.  Most of his lyrics are just mindless thug bullshit, and he wasn't even a thug anyway.  Just a pretender.  Rakim will ALWAYS be the G.O.A.T.!!!


ummmm, wtf are you smokin on, call your doctor or somethin for a check up cause pacs albums were weither solid or classic, and he grew better every album, i doubt he would have fallen off. pac was the G.O.A.T. no doubt. he realesed dopeness after dopeness. and your sayin pac was a pretender umm ok man. mindless thug bullshit huh? obviously you havent heard his music then cause pac rapped just about everything.his music had meaning. mindless bullshit is what you just said


and then trauma said
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Oh, I Think I'm Liking Bleech Better Than Most Of YOu Will, LOL  Pac Ain't God, Yall...  


who said he was God? were just sayin he was the greatest

now you people read that, well atleast you who hate on pac.  
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Post by: cbook on October 14, 2001, 03:41:15 PM
pac....
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: Big BpG on October 14, 2001, 04:01:30 PM
Snoop Dogg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no, im kidding again... basically I dont know.. you could argue anyone, even Lil Wayne...

-Big BpG
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: Sub-Z on October 14, 2001, 04:06:35 PM
2pac
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: West Coast Veteran on October 14, 2001, 04:21:53 PM
TUPAC AMARU SHAKUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: Don Jacob on October 14, 2001, 05:15:02 PM
rakim is the greatest LYRACIST but he's not the best all around rapper he lacked alot of other things but was just the strongest in rhyming words...it's like Reggie Miller....probably the best and purest shooter in basketball history better shooter than jordan but that don't make him the best ya know what i'm saying rakim however is 2nd on my list so comparing him to reggie is kind've stretching it



but whoever said 2pac only had 2 solid albums and only rhymed about mindless thug shit is full of shit,lol

2pacolyspe now-solid album not classic but was definatly dopeness and  COUNTLESS DEEEEEEP songs

Strictly 4 my niggaz-4.5 mic album every song is dope with great early 90's production, deeeeeeeeeep and meaningful songs like papa song, keep your head up, last words...ect.

Me Against The World-classic album one of the greatest rap albums ever also the DEEEPEST and Most emotional rap album ever 5 mic classic

All Eyez on me-not as deep as the other album but 2pac at arguably his best also one of the greatest albums EVER 5 mic classic

Makaveli The Don Killuminati the 7 day theory -Pac's final and 3rd straight classic, pac mixes it up with his raw emotion and political rage along with such types of songs that put him over as the best, alot of Rap Publications actually consider this Pac's Greatest album and one of the top 5 rap albums ever


so i don't know what the fuck your tripping off of or if the only albums by pac you've listened to are the left over albums they released after he died, but to say all the VERY untrue is bullshit, i can deal with you liking Rakim more, HEY that's on you alot of people don't consider Jordan the best baller ever...but to make stupid accusations like "pac only had 2 good albums and he was shallow and ignorant" just makes you look retarted
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: HBKid_Jr on October 14, 2001, 05:45:55 PM

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rakim is the greatest LYRACIST but he's not the best all around rapper he lacked alot of other things but was just the strongest in rhyming words...it's like Reggie Miller....probably the best and purest shooter in basketball history better shooter than jordan but that don't make him the best ya know what i'm saying rakim however is 2nd on my list so comparing him to reggie is kind've stretching it



but whoever said 2pac only had 2 solid albums and only rhymed about mindless thug shit is full of shit,lol

2pacolyspe now-solid album not classic but was definatly dopeness and  COUNTLESS DEEEEEEP songs

Strictly 4 my niggaz-4.5 mic album every song is dope with great early 90's production, deeeeeeeeeep and meaningful songs like papa song, keep your head up, last words...ect.

Me Against The World-classic album one of the greatest rap albums ever also the DEEEPEST and Most emotional rap album ever 5 mic classic

All Eyez on me-not as deep as the other album but 2pac at arguably his best also one of the greatest albums EVER 5 mic classic

Makaveli The Don Killuminati the 7 day theory -Pac's final and 3rd straight classic, pac mixes it up with his raw emotion and political rage along with such types of songs that put him over as the best, alot of Rap Publications actually consider this Pac's Greatest album and one of the top 5 rap albums ever


so i don't know what the fuck your tripping off of or if the only albums by pac you've listened to are the left over albums they released after he died, but to say all the VERY untrue is bullshit, i can deal with you liking Rakim more, HEY that's on you alot of people don't consider Jordan the best baller ever...but to make stupid accusations like "pac only had 2 good albums and he was shallow and ignorant" just makes you look retarted

Show um Big Jake,  Thug Life is a very underatted CD to
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: Bleech on October 15, 2001, 04:30:28 AM
I shouldn't even have to defend myself on this one, but Pac fans seem to take on the Pac attitude so I shoulda known better.  Pac was a guy that was out to constantly get respect from real gangstas on the street.  Most of em made fun of his ass the whole time he was alive, sayin he was too "sissy" to be comin that hard.  Ya'll should pick up the book "Have Gun Will Travel: The Rise And Fall Of Death Row..." for the real deal on Pac and Suge.  Just because a guy shot at a cop and raped some bitch doesn't make him the realest muthafucka out there.  Dre led a police chase and beat up Dee Barnes, and he gets dissed by everybody for not bein a real "gangsta."  As for Pac's lyrics, sure he said SOME good shit and made some good songs (I was a fan of his back in the day).  But the elevation of him to this godlike status is only because he is dead, either that or you guys are just satisfied with OK lyrics and wack ass beats, which is what most of the "new" Pac stuff is.  The old Pac stuff is classic, don't get me wrong, but to call him the G.O.A.T. is just ignorant, and shows alot of disrespect towards cats that were in the game and are still in the game long before Pac.
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Post by: Trauma-san on October 15, 2001, 05:09:59 AM
Reggie Miller best shooter in HISTORY? Come On, Yall Always Underestimate The Old School... Wha About Larry Bird, Or Pete Maravich?
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: HBKid_Jr on October 15, 2001, 09:08:57 AM
Sayin Pac aint tha G.O.A.T b/c of tha recent stuff they just released shows your ignorance.  These are leftover songs,  some of which Pac proberly would of never released.  A lot of these beats are his new CD's aren't beats he agreed on either,  these are beats his mom made,  which it a lot of cases really fucks up a song.  Also a lot of his stuff is also outdated,  its not his fault these songs are being released tha way they are.  Look at tha stuff he released while he was alive.  He got better with each CD,  how many rappers released three straight classic albums in a matter of 2 years (me against the world,  AEOM, an Makaveli).  Me against tha world is one of tha deepest an most emotional rap albums of all-time.  AEOM is a production masterpiece,  an Makaveli has great beats an emotion an show a little of each side of 2pac from tha political,  thug,  sensitive,  side of 2pac.  He may not of been tha best lyracist but what other rapper rapped wit tha same emotion Pac did.  Pac also has great flow.  
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: Super_Cuz on October 15, 2001, 11:02:55 AM
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True he has only two solid albums but he also has three classic albums in Me Against the World,  All Eyez on Me,  an Makaveli: Tha Don Killuminati 7 day theory


All of pac's albums are dope.Tha unreleassed ones are over dope.I dont know if it shit up but check out http://www.TheGrooves.com and see how many pac albums there are waiting to be releassed.
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Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: Doggystylin on October 15, 2001, 01:13:24 PM

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I shouldn't even have to defend myself on this one, but Pac fans seem to take on the Pac attitude so I shoulda known better.  Pac was a guy that was out to constantly get respect from real gangstas on the street.  Most of em made fun of his ass the whole time he was alive, sayin he was too "sissy" to be comin that hard.  Ya'll should pick up the book "Have Gun Will Travel: The Rise And Fall Of Death Row..." for the real deal on Pac and Suge.  Just because a guy shot at a cop and raped some bitch doesn't make him the realest muthafucka out there.  Dre led a police chase and beat up Dee Barnes, and he gets dissed by everybody for not bein a real "gangsta."  As for Pac's lyrics, sure he said SOME good shit and made some good songs (I was a fan of his back in the day).  But the elevation of him to this godlike status is only because he is dead, either that or you guys are just satisfied with OK lyrics and wack ass beats, which is what most of the "new" Pac stuff is.  The old Pac stuff is classic, don't get me wrong, but to call him the G.O.A.T. is just ignorant, and shows alot of disrespect towards cats that were in the game and are still in the game long before Pac.


who cares if he wasnt a "real" gangsta, its all about the music, and pac would have never realesed all this shit comin out now, this is his mom and suge realising this and touching it up, but if he was alive there is no way he would have realesed it. so your saying your not a fan cause of the new stuff. well i bet rakim has shitloads of unrealesed stuff that is just as bad or worse than pacs, every artist has unrealeses shit that isnt good. now they are just realesing it to make money off him. how is it ignorant to call him the greatest? when he was. you tell me how rakim is and pac isnt!
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Post by: ImmortalOne on October 15, 2001, 03:17:24 PM
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RAKIM!!!!
No discrespect to Pac, but out of all the albums he's released, only 2 have been solid.  Hell if Pac was still alive, you'd probably be on here talkin bout how hard he fell off.  Most of his lyrics are just mindless thug bullshit, and he wasn't even a thug anyway.  Just a pretender.  Rakim will ALWAYS be the G.O.A.T.!!!


^^^This guy is a herb.

EVERY 2Pac album is solid, its just that some were better than others.

And how the fuck you gonna say Pac's music was mindless thug bullshit??

Have you ever songs like Dear Mama, Only God Can Judge Me, Papaz Song, Letter To My Unborn, Changes, or 16 On Death Row?? How about Life Goes On, Krazy, Brendas Gotta Baby, Keep Ya Head Up, Whonda Why They Call U Bitch, Hail Mary, or So Many Tears??

You're an idiot man.
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: Mexican_Thugsta on October 15, 2001, 04:27:42 PM
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I think a lot of people under-estimate the lyrical ability of LL Cool J...I mean LL Cool J was some lyricist and so was pac so I think LL Cool J has the right to call himself G.O.A.T I mean he is to a lot of people but of course the dedicated pac fans are gona say pac just like dedicated Big fans will say Bigs....I mean there's no winning...I think Pac was great for ringing his views, story's etc through his songs but if I were to choose between Pac and LL Cool J.....I dunno if would say they both should share it.....I mean I am a big Pac fan myself...bigger than I am of LL Cool J but I gotta respect LL cause he certainly can rime.

Conclusion - I would have to say they both deserve to have this title. They are both great lyricists and got threw wot they were trying to say on their song. If only we had great rappers like this going 2day....they could so easily fuck up people like Nelly, Ludacris, So Solid Crew.....man that sux. Hip-Pop sux. But staying on topic. They both deserve to hold the title as Greateast Of All Time


werd i agree wit' dis nigga

-oNe-
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Post by: Don Jacob on October 15, 2001, 05:31:37 PM

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Reggie Miller best shooter in HISTORY? Come On, Yall Always Underestimate The Old School... Wha About Larry Bird, Or Pete Maravich?


sorry not to get off topic
:-/
naw i'm talking about behind the arc, larry bird was great behind the line too and pistol pete was good too, but i'm just going by what dr. james ramsey said, he's a big basketball annalyse so if he makes a statement like that it's all good, i would personally say oscar robinson but hey it's all good
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Post by: Dogg_Pound_Gangsta on October 15, 2001, 10:30:52 PM
I think Definetly that Pac is the G.O.A.T.  You can put on any of his cds and not have to change the song cuz they all good!! ;D


Peace
Title: Re: Who Is Tha True G.O.A.T
Post by: Antonio on October 16, 2001, 08:17:55 AM
Don't joke. PAC.  :'(

R.I.P. man..