West Coast Connection Forum
Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: WC Iz Active on February 27, 2007, 06:12:00 PM
-
As a diehard Pacer fan as much as it kills me to say this Jermaine O'Neal should give up on the Pacers. We just blew a 18 point lead at home against the Suns on a night when Jermaine played amazing as usual and was double teamed on every play. His era with the Pacers is over, the team is a bunch of underachievers besides O'Neal. The trade they made wasnt the right deal, Dunleavy is a piece of shit he fuckin sucks, anyways I am so down on the Pacers right now, and I GUARENTEE Jermaine will demand a trade this summer and I dont blame him.
Overall Jermaine has been the best big man this year as his defense as been brilliant along with 20 and 10 every night, I feel sooooo bad for Jermaine O'Neal, he is way to good to have to put up with this crap.
-
Jermaine's line tonight
28pts 13reb 7 assists 6 blocks and he was double teamed all night. The look on his face at the end of the game pretty much sums it up. I am disgusted, another blown game for the Pacers
-
On my NBA Live 06 season, I made a trade for Lamar Odom, Chris Mihm, and somebody else for Jermaine O'Neal and maybe somebody else....and damn, him Kobe and Bynum were amazing and we won the championship the next year. Now I wouldn't want to trade Lamar for him, and I donno if they'll take anybody who's not Lamar or Bynum...but if we could somehow get him, I would be pretty darn happy.
-
On my NBA Live 06 season, I made a trade for Lamar Odom, Chris Mihm, and somebody else for Jermaine O'Neal and maybe somebody else....and damn, him Kobe and Bynum were amazing and we won the championship the next year. Now I wouldn't want to trade Lamar for him, and I donno if they'll take anybody who's not Lamar or Bynum...but if we could somehow get him, I would be pretty darn happy.
If you wouldnt trade Odom for Jermaine then you are crazy, and I do believe JO will end up with LA, He is good friends with Kobe and its just a perfect fit. Jermaine is a top 7 or 8 player in the game, if you can get him you have to trade for him Odom or not
-
If I was Mitch I'd definitely trade Odom for Jermaine. Problem is you don't have a point guard who can handle distribution well enough. Also I can see Laker-Fans bitching about how the awesome triangle offense would be screwed then.
-
He had a great game but the Suns are just too much if you don't have your game plan in tact.
-
He had a great game but the Suns are just too much if you don't have your game plan in tact.
We should have won though and thats why I'm so mad, we were up by 18 in the 3rd, they double teamed O'Neal all night and he still played great, no one else stepped up, Jermaine deserves to play with another all star player so he can contend for a title.
-
dawg teams lose big leads it happens.I dont feel that bad for jermain as much as i do for KG at least Jermain had his shot and now he is just in the hole like what pretty much KG has felt his entire career except for 1 year (cassell,Spree).I would love to see Jermaine in a Laker uniform even at the cost of bynum but not for Odom.And if the lakers can somehow get Jermaine without giving up anyone that would be the shit.
-
Jermaine O'Neal doesn't have to demand a trade. He has a player option on his contract which enables him to become a free agent when this season is finished.
-
Jermaine O'Neal doesn't have to demand a trade. He has a player option on his contract which enables him to become a free agent when this season is finished.
I thought that player option wasnt for another whole year? I could be wrong though
-
JO also needs to stay healthy
-
JO also needs to stay healthy
for the most part he has this year, he has only missed a few games but I definitely see what you are saying. I think this has been his best year so far, he is playing like the defensive player of the year along with 20 and 10 every night, he just needs some consistent help around him.
-
JO can opt out after this year if he wants...I wouldn't trade Odom for him either way. And definitely not Bynum.
-
im a fan of o'neal but im with the others on this one, i wouldnt trade odom... his shot has been a bit off since his injury, but in the beginning of the season he was tearing it up, he just needs to get that spark back like he did in yesterday's utah game. he does so much more for his teammates than most fans realize.
assuming kwame is able to fully recover and bynum continues to improve steadily, i think it would be unwise for the lakers to trade key players for o'neal unless they can get some amazingly good deal out of it.
-
Odom is only 1 year younger than JO and it is clear that Jermaine is the much better play obviousley, so I am very confused why any Laker fan wouldnt be up for that trade.
-
Odom is only 1 year younger than JO and it is clear that Jermaine is the much better play obviousley, so I am very confused why any Laker fan wouldnt be up for that trade.
a much better post player. whereas odom is much better playmaker and passer, and just getting teammates involved in general. which is basically what the lakers need, since a very large portion of the team is youngsters who at times seem absolutely lost on the court.
-
Odom is only 1 year younger than JO and it is clear that Jermaine is the much better play obviousley, so I am very confused why any Laker fan wouldnt be up for that trade.
a much better post player. whereas odom is much better playmaker and passer, and just getting teammates involved in general. which is basically what the lakers need, since a very large portion of the team is youngsters who at times seem absolutely lost on the court.
Exactly...Add to that we've been building with Odom these last 3 years, and trading him would be a complete waste of our plan. It takes 2 years to fully understand the triangle...And JO is not a quick learner to begin with. No way do we fuck up our current chemistry and Phil Jackson's plan all for JO...PeACe
-
Yup, I wouldn't trade Odom neither. JO is the better post up player like Halu said, but Odom is the better all around player.
-
Yup, I wouldn't trade Odom neither. JO is the better post up player like Halu said, but Odom is the better all around player.
Odom the better overall player LMAO? no chance! JO is a better defender and a better offensive player, its not even close. Would you compare Odom to KG or Duncan? NO, so why would you compare Odom to JO, its not even close LOL, Odom is nice but Jermaine is a 6 time all star who puts up 20 and 10 every night and leads the league in blocks, I could see why you wouldnt want to trade Odom, but to compare the two players is laughable, only a biased Laker fan thinks Odom is even close to Jermaine as a player LOL.
-
only a biased Laker fan thinks Odom is even close to Jermaine as a player LOL.
LOL. I've had enough of you underrating Odom as a player, homie...Odom is a 2nd option, JO would put very similar numbers (-assists & threes, +blocks) if he were traded to the Lakers. Odom was the leader of Team USA two years back...Stop underrating Odom, it's enough that he gets underrated by the league and basketball fans across the globe who think Wade is the greatest thing ever...
Remember last year you tried "laughing at me" when I claimed Odom was better than AK47?
-
only a biased Laker fan thinks Odom is even close to Jermaine as a player LOL.
LOL. I've had enough of you underrating Odom as a player, homie...Odom is a 2nd option, JO would put very similar numbers (-assists & threes, +blocks) if he were traded to the Lakers. Odom was the leader of Team USA two years back...Stop underrating Odom, it's enough that he gets underrated by the league and basketball fans across the globe who think Wade is the greatest thing ever...
Remember last year you tried "laughing at me" when I claimed Odom was better than AK47?
JO and Odom both do alot of things well. Spice, trading JO for Odom would screw up chemistry. But why trade for JO when you have a young guy like Bynum always getting better? Why have 2 great big guys when you have can have 1 really good big guy and a SF? You just gotta look more at the situation, not always about whose better, but whats better for the team...
-
Imo The Pacers should have tried to trade for Bibby, that would have given them another scorer they need. He would have made them better instantly
-
Imo The Pacers should have tried to trade for Bibby, that would have given them another scorer they need. He would have made them better instantly
I agree. And call me crazy but I actually think Tinsley could of helped the Kings in that system, plus we would of gave SAC, Shawne Williams who is a very nice prospect.
-
only a biased Laker fan thinks Odom is even close to Jermaine as a player LOL.
LOL. I've had enough of you underrating Odom as a player, homie...Odom is a 2nd option, JO would put very similar numbers (-assists & threes, +blocks) if he were traded to the Lakers. Odom was the leader of Team USA two years back...Stop underrating Odom, it's enough that he gets underrated by the league and basketball fans across the globe who think Wade is the greatest thing ever...
Remember last year you tried "laughing at me" when I claimed Odom was better than AK47?
JO and Odom both do alot of things well. Spice, trading JO for Odom would screw up chemistry. But why trade for JO when you have a young guy like Bynum always getting better? Why have 2 great big guys when you have can have 1 really good big guy and a SF? You just gotta look more at the situation, not always about whose better, but whats better for the team...
yep, both these posts are correct. as i've already said JO would be more useful than odom in the post, but odom is about a thousand times more versatile than jermaine o'neal is. that's not even opinion, thats standard basketball knowledge. have u seen odom playing wen kobe was gone during the pre-season and the beginning of the regular season when he single-handedly torched the suns in a victory? odom's shot has been a lil off since coming back from his injury which is why he's gotten a little more hesitant recently, but based off how he played in the jazz game i'd say he'll be back to normal soon enough.
it has nothing to do with bias, as i'm a fan of jermaine o'neal. but JO is not a kevin garnett, lets not kid ourselves. if we lose odom we lose a facilitator for the triangle offense, and the thought of JO replacing him there is comedic.
now we COULD use JO to replace bynum as the inside man, but i'm not too sure how popular that idea would be amongst some laker fans as many are hoping bynum would become better than JO.
-
Yup, I wouldn't trade Odom neither. JO is the better post up player like Halu said, but Odom is the better all around player.
Odom the better overall player LMAO? no chance! JO is a better defender and a better offensive player, its not even close. Would you compare Odom to KG or Duncan? NO, so why would you compare Odom to JO, its not even close LOL, Odom is nice but Jermaine is a 6 time all star who puts up 20 and 10 every night and leads the league in blocks, I could see why you wouldnt want to trade Odom, but to compare the two players is laughable, only a biased Laker fan thinks Odom is even close to Jermaine as a player LOL.
Dog, laugh all you want but the fact is Odom flirts with a triple double like every other game. Let's see JO do that. I stand by what I say and that is that Lamar is the better all around player. He could post you up, take the outside shot, play D, pass, and run the offense. He could play almost every postion the the floor. Let's see JO do that. I'll say it again Lamar IS THE BETTER ALL AROUND PLAYER!
-
^^^not even close, Odom is good but JO is great. LMAO at comparing Odom and JO, you need to watch more non laker games homie
-
Not even close? Dog we're talking about JO not KG or Duncan. JO is a very good player but he's not in the same caliber as KG or Duncan. Oh and I watch plenty of NBA games patna. I know what I'm talking about. Only a biased Pacer fan would say that JO is a WAY better player than Lamar.
-
tell me something as a laker fan would you guys trade Bynum for JO and still keep Odom?I would do that shit in a heart beat because the lakers need to win now while Kobe and Odom are in their prime and not wait.
-
Not even close? Dog we're talking about JO not KG or Duncan. JO is a very good player but he's not in the same caliber as KG or Duncan. Oh and I watch plenty of NBA games patna. I know what I'm talking about. Only a biased Pacer fan would say that JO is a WAY better player than Lamar.
its close, but u cant deny JO has had a better career..
-
tell me something as a laker fan would you guys trade Bynum for JO and still keep Odom?I would do that shit in a heart beat because the lakers need to win now while Kobe and Odom are in their prime and not wait.
Hell no!...Bynum is the future bro. Even if it takes him 5 years to start totally dominating, Kobe will STILL only be 32!!
-
Lamar is a blunt of purple away from getting kicked out the NBA