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Title: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: proverbs aka DD on March 06, 2007, 02:05:02 PM
I think Eazy is probably the most underrated rapper ever.. Yea, he gets alot of props from West Coast artists, but i honestly think he should get more props than Biggie.. I think the East and other areas don't give him the props that he deserves.

His flow is timeless.. You can put his verses on new beats and it sounds like he just recorded them.

If he would of stayed alive 1 more year, he would of single handedly took down Death Row.. He started going after Dr Dre but was getting ready to 'ether' Snoop and the Death Row 'crips' for being bitches to Bloods. He was the one who put Bone Thugs N Harmony on...

Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: K.Dub on March 06, 2007, 02:14:07 PM
nahh...
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: villain on March 06, 2007, 02:14:42 PM
i agree

he destroyed dre and the rutless family straight game'd them on some verses like these

INSIDE THE MINDS OF REAL G'S
DEATH ROW IS LOOKED UPON AS THE STUDIO GANSTERS OF THE 90'S
A JOKE HAHAHAHA IN A GAMECALLED 5 MINUTES OF FAME YOU WASTED
4 MIMUTES NOW YOU GOT SECONDS LEFT KICK IT

COME ONE COME ALL AND LET ME RIDE NIGGA
EAZY-E CPT HOW THE HELL YOU FIGURE
TO BE THE BEST ON THE WEST HU YA
FOOL LOKED DOWN THIS IS EAST SIDE NIGGA
SOUTH COMTON AND I PUT IT ON THE MAP
SO WHEN A DOG POUND CRIP YOU WANNA SCRAP
AND THAT COMIN STRAIGHT FROM THE RUTHLESS GANSTER EAZY-E
NOW WHAT WOULD I DO HAHA LETS SEE
NOW I WOULD TAKE ON SUGAS LOCKED DOWN THE ROW
SINCE DRE IS A BITCH PIMP SLAP THE HOE
NOW I'M SEEING DOUBLES MAN TWO DOGS IN A HUDDLE
AA GOD DAME NOW DIGGIDI DAZE I BIGGIDI BLAST
ON RIGHT ONE AND SMOKE THAT AZZ
NOW KURUPT DONT EVEN SET TRIP
YELLIN LONG BEACH 60 BLOOD AND PUPPY POUND
CRIP REALLY DOE GOT MY NUTS ON YOUR CHIN
WHILL I'M ALL IN YOUR PHILLY HOE
SO COME WITH IT FOOL AND TEST YOUR LUCK AND
I'LL BEAT THAT AZZ NOW CALL ME KURUPT
NOW I'M KREEPIN THREW THE FOG YA
BIG DOGG BLUE GOT MY NINE MILLA KILLA
HUNTING A DOGG NAMED SNOOP
YOU CAN RUN NIGGA BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE
EAZY-E STRAIGHT CREEPIN ON THE EAST SIDE 7
TENLONG BEACH SOUTH CAUGHT SNOOP FREE BASIN
IN A ROCK HOUSE I KICKS IN DA DOOR
I SAID IT BEFOE I NEVER LET NO BUSTA TEST ME NO MORE
BANG MURDER WAS THE CASE THAT TEY GAVE ME
MURDER WAZ THE CASE THAT THEY GAVE ME


YAA SO DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT STEPIN IN THE GOD DAMN HOUSE
DR. DRE STRAIGHT BUSTA NEVA BROKE A LAW IN HIS LIFE
BESIDES BEATING UP RICKY HARRIS'S WIFE
HAHA SNOOP DOGG FROM A HIGH TOP FADE TO SPORTIN BRAIDS
NOW HE'S LAID FAME NO FOURTUNE AND GETTING PLAYED NOT PAYED
PLAYED
TREATED LIKE A PROSTITUTE AND WE ALL KNOW WHO'S DOIN THE PIMPIN DAZ DONT
BE A FOLLOWA BE A LEADER AND STAY OFF THE NEXTS MANS NUTS
KURUPT THE KING PING STICK WITH THE 60'S
CAUSE YOU DONT NEED THOSE OTHER HOES CAUSE THEY'RE
ABOUT TO GO UP IN YA BUT ONLY YOU LET UM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
DEATH ROW REALLY DOE


damn thats some rough shit

but the dope part about this song was that it came out more then 1 year after eazy died in 96  on str8 off tha streetz of compton vol 1, he destroys them, it doesnt matter if he wrote his own lyrics or not, niether did dre, it just matters who spit them,

he spits the real on dre on ole school shit another track off that album

Jealousy is a muthaphukka when
your the man With the other hand
 i don't give a shit
Clock a grip like no other can
Wanna be like me
be a g like me
But i'm the nigga that made a g Outta the bitch d-r e
I was the captain
Dre was my sidekick
Everything was cool
Till he wanted to get what i get
 real g eazy-muthaphukkin-e
Now claimin' you a g
How does it feel to be me

and when he wasnt dissin, check out these one, it came years after he died, a old joint he did with bone thugs

Woke up this mornin' fifty-five past six
Eazy-muthafuckin-E with tha hard ass dick
Nigga plottin', ahhhh
Nigga schemin'so don't wake me bitch cuz i'm dreamin
1-8-7s on bitches in my head, nigga up snorin' like fuck, sleep in fear
Cock my nine, and i'm out the window
Drunk as fuck and high off that indo
Nigga E, C-P-T, the O.G.
And i really don't think u wanna fuck with me
Nigga walkin half up with nine in hand
I gives a mad fuck but they don't understand
I wet 'em up, wet 'em up, wet 'em up
Now back to the mutha fuckin set, creepin crawlin crawlin creepin
Don't get caught sleepin

the shitty part about this song was that part of his verse was somehow erased and he went on to diss dre and snoop at the end of this song, hopefully one day it will come out i hope

Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: Bedford Iz Active on March 06, 2007, 02:21:48 PM
nahh...

naahhh for sure. He isn't underrated.
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: Jip on March 06, 2007, 02:33:17 PM
he didnt write that shit, ren did
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: 3331 on March 06, 2007, 02:35:59 PM
no way. he didnt even write those disses^.

mc ren is mad underrated though.
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: C-BLUE on March 06, 2007, 03:32:13 PM
I think Eazy is probably the most underrated rapper ever.. Yea, he gets alot of props from West Coast artists, but i honestly think he should get more props than Biggie.. I think the East and other areas don't give him the props that he deserves.

His flow is timeless.. You can put his verses on new beats and it sounds like he just recorded them.

If he would of stayed alive 1 more year, he would of single handedly took down Death Row.. He started going after Dr Dre but was getting ready to 'ether' Snoop and the Death Row 'crips' for being bitches to Bloods. He was the one who put Bone Thugs N Harmony on...




spoken like a true O.G.

Eazy fucced them niggas up. Dre Day was a weak diss song and certainly nothin compared to Real Muthafuccin Gz. If he had lived his beef wit Suge wouldve gone to another level and I just know it wouldve gotten violent. I know E was ready to kill Suge at one point and was dead serious about it. It wouldve been done if other people hadnt stopped him. and Suge really hated E because he was everything he wasn't. A Compton O.G..
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: Machiavelli on March 06, 2007, 03:37:55 PM
mc ren is the underatted one
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on March 06, 2007, 03:38:34 PM
He is not underrated considering he didn't write a lot of his raps.
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: jpm on March 06, 2007, 03:42:42 PM
not at all..
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: The King Of L.A on March 06, 2007, 03:47:07 PM
He didnt write his shit . he was ok to me not that great.
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: Crip2Nite: South Central LA's HoOdSTAr on March 06, 2007, 03:56:22 PM
This thread is a joke and laughable....Eazy isn't undrerrated...He had a good mic presence, but he didn't write his own rhymes, alot of his later solo releases were garbage and he consistently and knowingly fucc'd his "homeboys" in the ass along with that jewish devil faggot Jerry Heller...If anything he was more of an underrated business man more then he was a rapper.
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on March 06, 2007, 03:58:31 PM
I used to think so. I actually thought he was the greatest of all time, but you have to write your own lyrics. He made a career out of rapping lyrics that Cube and Ren wrote for him.
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: Blu Lacez on March 06, 2007, 04:00:06 PM
This thread is a joke and laughable....Eazy isn't undrerrated...He had a good mic presence, but he didn't write his own rhymes, alot of his later solo releases were garbage and he consistently and knowingly fucc'd his "homeboys" in the ass along with that jewish devil faggot Jerry Heller...If anything he was more of an underrated business man more then he was a rapper.


/\
Those Are Harsh words.....***jewish devil faggot *** ???
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: Sanford - V. President of the Dangerous Crew Movement on March 06, 2007, 04:03:08 PM
mc ren is the underatted one
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: PsychoToons5150 on March 06, 2007, 05:36:52 PM
Eazy doesnt get half the credit he deserves to get. cause if it wasnt for him the west coast wouldnt be where it is and yeah he did kill dre on his diss tracks and the fucked up thing was on his song what would you do. he pretty much foretold the downfall of death row. R.I.P E
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: Narrator on March 06, 2007, 05:41:38 PM
^^^^ Eazy did a lot for the West from a business standpoint...can't nobody deny that.  But we're talking about ARTISTIC reasons here.  Everybody's already said it...he didn't write most of his own lyrics (chances are, your favorite Eazy verse was written by Ren or B.G. Knocc Out or Dresta), and his flow wasn't all that great.  He did have charisma, but that doesn't get you everywhere.  And besides, 99% of Eazy fans I see seem to like him more because of his supposed street cred than his actual music.

And LOL at C-SICC.  Stupid fuckin 'Net banging faggots.
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: martmodem on March 06, 2007, 08:04:50 PM
Hell no.  "Ice Cube writes the rhymes that I say."
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: DENUM BLUE on March 06, 2007, 09:23:23 PM
NO MATTER WHAT ANYBODYS GOTTA SAY, "EAZY WILL ALWAYZ BE A LEGEND IN MUSIC & THE RAP GAME"!!!!! www.myspace.com/denumbluesmuzikpage - www.myspace.com/meechwells
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: smp4life on March 07, 2007, 12:51:17 AM
Eazy didn't even write his own flow in some cases. Rappers wrote his shit and performed it to show him how it should be recited. No he's not underated, and yes, I am a big fan. And I agree with others, if anyone was underated it was Ren.
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: R-Tistic on March 07, 2007, 01:01:23 AM
He's definitely under-appreciated as a rap legend icon...but as a rapper, he's not underrated at all. It's some people outside the west who can't name an Eazy-E song that wasn't with NWA...and it's probably people 18 and under on the West who can't name any.
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: Diggfinger on March 07, 2007, 02:03:56 AM
I think Eazy is probably the most underrated rapper ever.. Yea, he gets alot of props from West Coast artists, but i honestly think he should get more props than Biggie.. I think the East and other areas don't give him the props that he deserves.

His flow is timeless.. You can put his verses on new beats and it sounds like he just recorded them.

If he would of stayed alive 1 more year, he would of single handedly took down Death Row.. He started going after Dr Dre but was getting ready to 'ether' Snoop and the Death Row 'crips' for being bitches to Bloods. He was the one who put Bone Thugs N Harmony on...



I disagree. businesswise the man is a legend, he builded a empire and put Ice Cube, MC REn, Dre, Yella (NWA!!!), Doc, Kokane ,Above The Law, Bone Thugs in the game. PROPZ GIVEN!
Rappin´ wise though...he often left must to be desired.
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: R-Tistic on March 07, 2007, 02:38:07 AM
Rappin wise, he was 60% personality, 40% catchy voice.
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: Furor Teutonicus on March 07, 2007, 03:51:12 AM
He's definitely under-appreciated as a rap legend icon...but as a rapper, he's not underrated at all. It's some people outside the west who can't name an Eazy-E song that wasn't with NWA...and it's probably people 18 and under on the West who can't name any.

real talk! he is not underrated as a rapper, but underrated as an icon if you compare him with other dead rappers (Biggie and Pac). Cube and Ren are are both underrated as rappers, but
Eazy had the idea and the image.
I would say that Ice-T and King-T are the real underrated ones...
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: JohnnyL on March 07, 2007, 05:59:05 AM
I'll meet you half way and say that Eazy is definately wayyy underappreciated for what he did for hip hop in general.  He was a visionary.  He built his label from the ground up.  He gave a lot of people their start.  He was able to balance being controversial and being successful.  And I think that amounts to a lot more than whether or not his flow was underrated.  Eazy may not have written all of his matierial, but I think when it came to recording all of those albums over there at Ruthless,  he had a lot more input, artisitically than a lot of people realise.
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: Raphael on March 07, 2007, 06:19:28 AM
he's underrated for being a dead rapper.
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: C-BLUE on March 07, 2007, 06:27:11 AM
I'll meet you half way and say that Eazy is definately wayyy underappreciated for what he did for hip hop in general.  He was a visionary.  He built his label from the ground up.  He gave a lot of people their start.  He was able to balance being controversial and being successful.  And I think that amounts to a lot more than whether or not his flow was underrated.  Eazy may not have written all of his matierial, but I think when it came to recording all of those albums over there at Ruthless,  he had a lot more input, artisitically than a lot of people realise.

yeah people keep talkin about how E never wrote his lyrics. The truth is E did write alot of his own shit. Alot of niggas dont know is dat E did write at least half of his shit on Niggaz4Life. He said himself he didnt wanna be credited because he felt it didnt matter cuz he was already executive producin everything and ownin the company. He wrote his part on Findum Fuccum N Flee, Real Niggaz Dont Die and Appetite For Destruction. In the beginnin The DOC and Ice Cube wrote most of his shit. It all changed when Cube left and E got more involved in the writing. His last verse he ever recorded was written by himself The MUTHAFUCCIN REAL. BG Knocc Out and Dresta helped write his verse on Real Compton City G but some of the lines were all E. This shit is a fact. Another song I know he wrote all by himself was Wut Would U Do wit him and Shaki. So niggas keep sayin shit that aint really true. This niggas was highly involved in the artistic nature of music. He was all into it. This niggas was gettin into producin and he was even designin album covers...shiiiiiiiit.
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: proverbs aka DD on March 07, 2007, 07:05:58 AM
Regardless if he didn't write 100% of his lyrics, I still think he is underrated. I think it's because he didn't die from a honorable reason like getting shot up. (joking... but not really). Plus he died at a time when the West Coast was starting to really heat up.

When these East Coast, BET and MTV cats be naming off their favorite rappers of all time, i don't see them thinking "I would of named Eazy E but he didn't write his own lyrics"

I don't understand how some of ya can name Snoop Dogg and Kurupt in your favorite MC rankings when at their prime their lyrics were written by DOC

Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: DJSpin on March 07, 2007, 10:26:04 AM
the same could be said about dre..he probably didnt write much on anything death row related or aftermath related.....   as a producer yeah he is a legend

and i agree Eazy ripped Dre and Death row with all his disses...even Kokane killed dre on funk upon a rhyme.. 
Eazy's only mistake in life was not signing DJ Quik back in the day..
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: K.Dub on March 07, 2007, 10:35:50 AM


yeah people keep talkin about how E never wrote his lyrics. The truth is E did write alot of his own shit. Alot of niggas dont know is dat E did write at least half of his shit on Niggaz4Life. He said himself he didnt wanna be credited because he felt it didnt matter cuz he was already executive producin everything and ownin the company. He wrote his part on Findum Fuccum N Flee, Real Niggaz Dont Die and Appetite For Destruction. In the beginnin The DOC and Ice Cube wrote most of his shit. It all changed when Cube left and E got more involved in the writing. His last verse he ever recorded was written by himself The MUTHAFUCCIN REAL. BG Knocc Out and Dresta helped write his verse on Real Compton City G but some of the lines were all E. This shit is a fact. Another song I know he wrote all by himself was Wut Would U Do wit him and Shaki. So niggas keep sayin shit that aint really true. This niggas was highly involved in the artistic nature of music. He was all into it. This niggas was gettin into producin and he was even designin album covers...shiiiiiiiit.

link?
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: GimmeYourShoes on March 07, 2007, 10:39:10 AM
the same could be said about dre..he probably didnt write much on anything death row related or aftermath related.....   as a producer yeah he is a legend

and i agree Eazy ripped Dre and Death row with all his disses...even Kokane killed dre on funk upon a rhyme.. 
Eazy's only mistake in life was not signing DJ Quik back in the day..
It wasn't Eazy's mistake.
"I ended up meeting Easy after my album came out, and we talked about me even signing over there, and he even tried to get me out of my Profile deal, sign me over there; offered a million dollars and Profile was like no we aren’t having it. Sent him a cease and desist order and all this shit, so . " - DJ Quik (http://www.mobfiggaz.net/exclusive_interviews/dj_quik_interview.php)

In my opinion Eazy isn't unterrated at all. I don't care if some one else wrote couple of his song, eazy real muthafucca anyway.
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: $Eg2$ on March 07, 2007, 10:40:09 AM
I liked the Eazy E disses but I cant say he destroyed Death Row or anybody from there ??? The Row were still makin hits after the disses and the disses really didnt mean much since Eazy E pressed charges against Suge for assault when Suge made him sign over Dre so the disses dont mean much when you press charges against niggas and talkin like your gonna wack em .


Rip eazy
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: R-Tistic on March 07, 2007, 11:17:14 AM
Regardless if he didn't write 100% of his lyrics, I still think he is underrated. I think it's because he didn't die from a honorable reason like getting shot up. (joking... but not really). Plus he died at a time when the West Coast was starting to really heat up.

When these East Coast, BET and MTV cats be naming off their favorite rappers of all time, i don't see them thinking "I would of named Eazy E but he didn't write his own lyrics"

I don't understand how some of ya can name Snoop Dogg and Kurupt in your favorite MC rankings when at their prime their lyrics were written by DOC



Difference is that regardless of who wrote what, Kurupt and Snoop had a MUUUUUUCH better flow, delivery, and all else that isn't lyrics. I don't even care about Eazy writin or not writin his lyrics...he wasn't one of the best rappers back then. One reason that Death Row and the Snoop/Dre camp blew up 100 times more than Eazy and Ruthless before BONE came is not just because of Dre's production, but because they were better rappers. Eazy had funny raps, and had some catchy and memorable lines, regardless of if he wrote it or not...but rap wise, it's no way he could touch Snoop, Kurupt, Lady of Rage, or anybody else. I'd also say that Dre was better at rappin than Eazy was.
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: JohnnyL on March 07, 2007, 11:41:54 AM
Regardless if he didn't write 100% of his lyrics, I still think he is underrated. I think it's because he didn't die from a honorable reason like getting shot up. (joking... but not really). Plus he died at a time when the West Coast was starting to really heat up.

When these East Coast, BET and MTV cats be naming off their favorite rappers of all time, i don't see them thinking "I would of named Eazy E but he didn't write his own lyrics"

I don't understand how some of ya can name Snoop Dogg and Kurupt in your favorite MC rankings when at their prime their lyrics were written by DOC




Difference is that regardless of who wrote what, Kurupt and Snoop had a MUUUUUUCH better flow, delivery, and all else that isn't lyrics. I don't even care about Eazy writin or not writin his lyrics...he wasn't one of the best rappers back then. One reason that Death Row and the Snoop/Dre camp blew up 100 times more than Eazy and Ruthless before BONE came is not just because of Dre's production, but because they were better rappers. Eazy had funny raps, and had some catchy and memorable lines, regardless of if he wrote it or not...but rap wise, it's no way he could touch Snoop, Kurupt, Lady of Rage, or anybody else. I'd also say that Dre was better at rappin than Eazy was.


I agree with your point about who had the better flows between Snoop and Kurupt, verses Eazy.  I think they were better emcees.  Especially Kurupt.  For that matter, I think Kurupt was probably the best emcee on Death Row at that time (the classic deathrow era, when he was first signed to the label.)  Kurupt in his prime was probably better than a lot of emcees today.  He used complex compound syllable rhyme schemes and a lot of similies and metaphors.  The strength in Eazy's flow I think was, as someone else said, his charisma.  That, and he had a very unique voice.  Lyrics-wise, his flow was more straight-to-the-point.  But I think people respect it so much still, because he seemed to give the impression that what he said in his rhymes was real talk.  Especially as it pertained to the Ruthless and Deathrow situation.

But again, business wise, there's no comparison.  You need only look at it this way.  Ruthless records was a success, because Eric Wright made it a success.  Deathrow was a success, because all the talent that was at Ruthless at the time was hijacked and taken to Deathrow.  Ruthless as a label, failed only because it's CEO and founder died.  Deathrow failed when it shouldn't have.  The people who were in charge at Deathrow pissed their empire away.

Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: R-Tistic on March 07, 2007, 12:41:27 PM
Regardless if he didn't write 100% of his lyrics, I still think he is underrated. I think it's because he didn't die from a honorable reason like getting shot up. (joking... but not really). Plus he died at a time when the West Coast was starting to really heat up.

When these East Coast, BET and MTV cats be naming off their favorite rappers of all time, i don't see them thinking "I would of named Eazy E but he didn't write his own lyrics"

I don't understand how some of ya can name Snoop Dogg and Kurupt in your favorite MC rankings when at their prime their lyrics were written by DOC




Difference is that regardless of who wrote what, Kurupt and Snoop had a MUUUUUUCH better flow, delivery, and all else that isn't lyrics. I don't even care about Eazy writin or not writin his lyrics...he wasn't one of the best rappers back then. One reason that Death Row and the Snoop/Dre camp blew up 100 times more than Eazy and Ruthless before BONE came is not just because of Dre's production, but because they were better rappers. Eazy had funny raps, and had some catchy and memorable lines, regardless of if he wrote it or not...but rap wise, it's no way he could touch Snoop, Kurupt, Lady of Rage, or anybody else. I'd also say that Dre was better at rappin than Eazy was.


I agree with your point about who had the better flows between Snoop and Kurupt, verses Eazy.  I think they were better emcees.  Especially Kurupt.  For that matter, I think Kurupt was probably the best emcee on Death Row at that time (the classic deathrow era, when he was first signed to the label.)  Kurupt in his prime was probably better than a lot of emcees today.  He used complex compound syllable rhyme schemes and a lot of similies and metaphors.  The strength in Eazy's flow I think was, as someone else said, his charisma.  That, and he had a very unique voice.  Lyrics-wise, his flow was more straight-to-the-point.  But I think people respect it so much still, because he seemed to give the impression that what he said in his rhymes was real talk.  Especially as it pertained to the Ruthless and Deathrow situation.

But again, business wise, there's no comparison.  You need only look at it this way.  Ruthless records was a success, because Eric Wright made it a success.  Deathrow was a success, because all the talent that was at Ruthless at the time was hijacked and taken to Deathrow.  Ruthless as a label, failed only because it's CEO and founder died.  Deathrow failed when it shouldn't have.  The people who were in charge at Deathrow pissed their empire away.



I'd agree with almost everything except saying that the talent at Ruthless was hi-jacked. We definitely can't act as if Jerry and Eazy weren't shady azz businessmen, especially towards NWA...and the only talent that went from Ruthless to Death Row was Dre, so they must not have been THAT strong if one person could change the entire outcome. Cube went out and did his own thing, but it wasn't with DR. When Eazy was alive, Ruthless didn't blow up again til BONE dropped.
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: mrfranklin on March 07, 2007, 01:14:12 PM
I agree i think eazy is the greatest of all time he did it before anybody else the pioneer
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: JohnnyL on March 08, 2007, 05:47:57 AM
Regardless if he didn't write 100% of his lyrics, I still think he is underrated. I think it's because he didn't die from a honorable reason like getting shot up. (joking... but not really). Plus he died at a time when the West Coast was starting to really heat up.

When these East Coast, BET and MTV cats be naming off their favorite rappers of all time, i don't see them thinking "I would of named Eazy E but he didn't write his own lyrics"

I don't understand how some of ya can name Snoop Dogg and Kurupt in your favorite MC rankings when at their prime their lyrics were written by DOC




Difference is that regardless of who wrote what, Kurupt and Snoop had a MUUUUUUCH better flow, delivery, and all else that isn't lyrics. I don't even care about Eazy writin or not writin his lyrics...he wasn't one of the best rappers back then. One reason that Death Row and the Snoop/Dre camp blew up 100 times more than Eazy and Ruthless before BONE came is not just because of Dre's production, but because they were better rappers. Eazy had funny raps, and had some catchy and memorable lines, regardless of if he wrote it or not...but rap wise, it's no way he could touch Snoop, Kurupt, Lady of Rage, or anybody else. I'd also say that Dre was better at rappin than Eazy was.


I agree with your point about who had the better flows between Snoop and Kurupt, verses Eazy.  I think they were better emcees.  Especially Kurupt.  For that matter, I think Kurupt was probably the best emcee on Death Row at that time (the classic deathrow era, when he was first signed to the label.)  Kurupt in his prime was probably better than a lot of emcees today.  He used complex compound syllable rhyme schemes and a lot of similies and metaphors.  The strength in Eazy's flow I think was, as someone else said, his charisma.  That, and he had a very unique voice.  Lyrics-wise, his flow was more straight-to-the-point.  But I think people respect it so much still, because he seemed to give the impression that what he said in his rhymes was real talk.  Especially as it pertained to the Ruthless and Deathrow situation.

But again, business wise, there's no comparison.  You need only look at it this way.  Ruthless records was a success, because Eric Wright made it a success.  Deathrow was a success, because all the talent that was at Ruthless at the time was hijacked and taken to Deathrow.  Ruthless as a label, failed only because it's CEO and founder died.  Deathrow failed when it shouldn't have.  The people who were in charge at Deathrow pissed their empire away.



I'd agree with almost everything except saying that the talent at Ruthless was hi-jacked. We definitely can't act as if Jerry and Eazy weren't shady azz businessmen, especially towards NWA...and the only talent that went from Ruthless to Death Row was Dre, so they must not have been THAT strong if one person could change the entire outcome. Cube went out and did his own thing, but it wasn't with DR. When Eazy was alive, Ruthless didn't blow up again til BONE dropped.

Actually, Dr.Dre, Michelle', and D.O.C. all defected to Deathrow.  Now, hands down, Dr.Dre leaving was definately the biggest loss to Ruthless Records.  But when you look at how much D.O.C. contributed to the writing for both the Deathrow and Ruthless camps, signing him was another big acquisition for Death Row.  And had he not lost his voice in that unfortunate accident, it would have been an even bigger deal.  But more than just the people that Death Row signed, they also used the same concept that Eazy started to make each of their albums successful.  The idea being that you put the entire "family" on each solo project so that they're introduced to the public and anticipation can grow  for each of their upcoming albums.  Moreover, if you subscribe to Eazy's opinion, it can also be argued that Death Row didn't invent "G-Funk" but rather copied the sound from Above the Law's "Black Mafia Life" album.

  Now, I don't mean to say that some of the members of NWA didn't get signed to bad deals at Ruthless.  Some of them may have.  Jerry Heller has even admitted in that recent interview that he underestimated the importance that Dre played at Ruthless Records.  But what I meant by "hi-jacked", is that Suge Knight capitalized on that situation.  He basically used a "divide and conquer" tactic, pulling them aside one by one, and telling them how bad their deal was at Ruthless.    And if you looked at how things turned out, Dre and D.O.C. didn't end up happy with their situation over at Death Row either, and Dre owned half of the company, over there.

 I'm not trying to sound like I'm all down on Death Row. A lot of good music ended up coming out of how things turned out.  I'm just saying that when Death Row started, it started with every advantage.  And in the end it was all squandered.
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: DEKO on March 08, 2007, 01:12:09 PM
yeah people keep talkin about how E never wrote his lyrics. The truth is E did write alot of his own shit. Alot of niggas dont know is dat E did write at least half of his shit on Niggaz4Life. He said himself he didnt wanna be credited because he felt it didnt matter cuz he was already executive producin everything and ownin the company. He wrote his part on Findum Fuccum N Flee, Real Niggaz Dont Die and Appetite For Destruction. In the beginnin The DOC and Ice Cube wrote most of his shit. It all changed when Cube left and E got more involved in the writing. His last verse he ever recorded was written by himself The MUTHAFUCCIN REAL. BG Knocc Out and Dresta helped write his verse on Real Compton City G but some of the lines were all E. This shit is a fact. Another song I know he wrote all by himself was Wut Would U Do wit him and Shaki. So niggas keep sayin shit that aint really true. This niggas was highly involved in the artistic nature of music. He was all into it. This niggas was gettin into producin and he was even designin album covers...shiiiiiiiit.

I agree with you 100%!
People need to stop bullshitting like "he didn't write shit" because when he released solo albums after '92 he wrote his own tracks (not all, but many tracks he did wrote himself... it's been confirmed in MC Ren interviews etc... etc.. do some fucking research)! So yes, he was great as an artist too, not just a good businessman!!!! So he really deserves the title The Godfather Of Gangstarap, and more recognition! In my opinion he is underrated... >:( :(
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: Bones01 on March 08, 2007, 09:34:51 PM
imo a pretty crap rapper. The personality was everything tho
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: JohnnyL on March 09, 2007, 06:21:03 AM
yeah people keep talkin about how E never wrote his lyrics. The truth is E did write alot of his own shit. Alot of niggas dont know is dat E did write at least half of his shit on Niggaz4Life. He said himself he didnt wanna be credited because he felt it didnt matter cuz he was already executive producin everything and ownin the company. He wrote his part on Findum Fuccum N Flee, Real Niggaz Dont Die and Appetite For Destruction. In the beginnin The DOC and Ice Cube wrote most of his shit. It all changed when Cube left and E got more involved in the writing. His last verse he ever recorded was written by himself The MUTHAFUCCIN REAL. BG Knocc Out and Dresta helped write his verse on Real Compton City G but some of the lines were all E. This shit is a fact. Another song I know he wrote all by himself was Wut Would U Do wit him and Shaki. So niggas keep sayin shit that aint really true. This niggas was highly involved in the artistic nature of music. He was all into it. This niggas was gettin into producin and he was even designin album covers...shiiiiiiiit.

I agree with you 100%!
People need to stop bullshitting like "he didn't write shit" because when he released solo albums after '92 he wrote his own tracks (not all, but many tracks he did wrote himself... it's been confirmed in MC Ren interviews etc... etc.. do some fucking research)! So yes, he was great as an artist too, not just a good businessman!!!! So he really deserves the title The Godfather Of Gangstarap, and more recognition! In my opinion he is underrated... >:( :(

Yeah.  I think the fact that Ice Cube, D.O.C., and MC Ren wrote for him early in his career has perpetuated the myth that he only used ghost wrtiers over the span of his career.  And I've never seen or heard that anywhere.  In all the interviews conducted with Eazy and any of his entourage, I've never read or heard anyone say "Eazy never wrote any of his lyrics."  It's common knowledge that at the beginning of his career he didn't write his rhymes.  But at the beginning of his career, he never planned on being a rapper.  I'm of the opinion that it doesn't matter all that much anyway.  But I do think that towards the end of his solo career, Eazy was writing more and more of his own stuff.
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: Raphael on March 09, 2007, 07:01:41 AM
eazy e dickriders are the most annoyin dickriders ever :grumpy:
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: Raphael on March 09, 2007, 07:37:52 AM
eazy e dickriders are the most annoyin dickriders ever :grumpy:

No diss respect mr.stockholm,but this dude JohnnyL got most of his fact's right. All you need to do is check the credits,if that's not enough check the MC Ren interview over www.thaformula.com .

my comment had nothing with the thread to do..im just saying that the 12 year old ruthless groupies like csicc,deko,ruthless95 or something like that are annoying..and no i dont live in stockholm :P
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: DEKO on October 24, 2007, 02:49:27 AM
eazy e dickriders are the most annoyin dickriders ever :grumpy:

No diss respect mr.stockholm,but this dude JohnnyL got most of his fact's right. All you need to do is check the credits,if that's not enough check the MC Ren interview over www.thaformula.com .

my comment had nothing with the thread to do..im just saying that the 12 year old ruthless groupies like csicc,deko,ruthless95 or something like that are annoying..and no i dont live in stockholm :P

You know what I find annoying? Muthafuckers who're twisting the facts about Eazy E. The only thing suckers like you can make up is "he didn't write his own lyrics." Wow... what an argument! Like I said before: DO SOME FUCKING RESEARCH before you start spreading that bullshit!

How did you feel when you called the Ruthless fans "12 year old groupies"? I hope you're really proud of yourself, fool! I'm probably older than you are... that's why you don't understand the greatness of Eazy E and Ruthless Records. You were probably born after the Ruthless era. If you don't understand it keep your bullshit mouth shut, faggot!
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: Okka on October 24, 2007, 03:11:00 AM
He is not underrated considering he didn't write a lot of his raps.

True, but he definetly was a good artist & a legend...
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: K.Dub on October 24, 2007, 04:42:34 AM
eazy e dickriders are the most annoyin dickriders ever :grumpy:

No diss respect mr.stockholm,but this dude JohnnyL got most of his fact's right. All you need to do is check the credits,if that's not enough check the MC Ren interview over www.thaformula.com .

my comment had nothing with the thread to do..im just saying that the 12 year old ruthless groupies like csicc,deko,ruthless95 or something like that are annoying..and no i dont live in stockholm :P

You know what I find annoying? Muthafuckers who're twisting the facts about Eazy E. The only thing suckers like you can make up is "he didn't write his own lyrics." Wow... what an argument! Like I said before: DO SOME FUCKING RESEARCH before you start spreading that bullshit!

How did you feel when you called the Ruthless fans "12 year old groupies"? I hope you're really proud of yourself, fool! I'm probably older than you are... that's why you don't understand the greatness of Eazy E and Ruthless Records. You were probably born after the Ruthless era. If you don't understand it keep your bullshit mouth shut, faggot!

Man, have u seen your avatar and sig?  :-X
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: MediumL on October 24, 2007, 04:50:34 AM
As a lyricist he aint but in hip hop he is cause he made this rap game big.
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: Raphael on October 24, 2007, 07:21:38 AM
eazy e dickriders are the most annoyin dickriders ever :grumpy:

No diss respect mr.stockholm,but this dude JohnnyL got most of his fact's right. All you need to do is check the credits,if that's not enough check the MC Ren interview over www.thaformula.com .

my comment had nothing with the thread to do..im just saying that the 12 year old ruthless groupies like csicc,deko,ruthless95 or something like that are annoying..and no i dont live in stockholm :P

You know what I find annoying? Muthafuckers who're twisting the facts about Eazy E. The only thing suckers like you can make up is "he didn't write his own lyrics." Wow... what an argument! Like I said before: DO SOME FUCKING RESEARCH before you start spreading that bullshit!

How did you feel when you called the Ruthless fans "12 year old groupies"? I hope you're really proud of yourself, fool! I'm probably older than you are... that's why you don't understand the greatness of Eazy E and Ruthless Records. You were probably born after the Ruthless era. If you don't understand it keep your bullshit mouth shut, faggot!
LOL at this pathetic fuck searching for eazy e threads get a life dude.
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: StevenQBosell on October 24, 2007, 07:46:52 AM
He's definitely under-appreciated as a rap legend icon...but as a rapper, he's not underrated at all.

Eazy didn't even write his own flow in some cases. Rappers wrote his shit and performed it to show him how it should be recited. No he's not underated, and yes, I am a big fan. And I agree with others, if anyone was underated it was Ren.

Real Talk.

One of my personal fav's of all time, but most def not underappreciated.

Again, if anybody is lacking some limelight, it's definetly MC Ren
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: DEKO on October 24, 2007, 09:22:41 AM
eazy e dickriders are the most annoyin dickriders ever :grumpy:

No diss respect mr.stockholm,but this dude JohnnyL got most of his fact's right. All you need to do is check the credits,if that's not enough check the MC Ren interview over www.thaformula.com .

my comment had nothing with the thread to do..im just saying that the 12 year old ruthless groupies like csicc,deko,ruthless95 or something like that are annoying..and no i dont live in stockholm :P

You know what I find annoying? Muthafuckers who're twisting the facts about Eazy E. The only thing suckers like you can make up is "he didn't write his own lyrics." Wow... what an argument! Like I said before: DO SOME FUCKING RESEARCH before you start spreading that bullshit!

How did you feel when you called the Ruthless fans "12 year old groupies"? I hope you're really proud of yourself, fool! I'm probably older than you are... that's why you don't understand the greatness of Eazy E and Ruthless Records. You were probably born after the Ruthless era. If you don't understand it keep your bullshit mouth shut, faggot!
LOL at this pathetic fuck searching for eazy e threads get a life dude.

I didn't searched shit... I just missed your bullshit reply back then, and I saw it today by coincidence. Y'all just need to do some research before y'all start talking shit! That's all I'm saying.

K-Dub, better an Eazy E sig and avater than your homo avater! Think about it, fool!
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: 3331 on October 24, 2007, 09:53:10 AM
he's overrated as a rapper. he was a genius when it came to creating a unique group/image but when it comes to rapping there are a lot better. i'd take rappin ron any day.
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: K.Dub on October 24, 2007, 11:09:50 AM

K-Dub, better an Eazy E sig and avater than your homo avater! Think about it, fool!

How is that homo, fool ?

Get off the dead man's dick and let him rest in peace, homo
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: J$crILLa on October 24, 2007, 11:32:55 AM
EAZY E is in my top 5..... the one downfall he didnt write all his rhymes.... but his flow is timeless and what he did for the game was huge..... solo album were dope all of them.... everything eazy ever put out was dope
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: westsiderider323 on October 24, 2007, 02:58:03 PM
in a way eazy iz underrated
he still fuccin raw
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: drakeshakenbake on October 25, 2007, 05:51:01 AM
ren is underrated
Title: Re: Eazy E - the most underrated rapper ever?
Post by: DJSpin on October 25, 2007, 06:06:55 AM
the same could be said about dre..he probably didnt write much on anything death row related or aftermath related.....   as a producer yeah he is a legend

and i agree Eazy ripped Dre and Death row with all his disses...even Kokane killed dre on funk upon a rhyme.. 
Eazy's only mistake in life was not signing DJ Quik back in the day..
It wasn't Eazy's mistake.
"I ended up meeting Easy after my album came out, and we talked about me even signing over there, and he even tried to get me out of my Profile deal, sign me over there; offered a million dollars and Profile was like no we aren’t having it. Sent him a cease and desist order and all this shit, so . " - DJ Quik (http://www.mobfiggaz.net/exclusive_interviews/dj_quik_interview.php)

In my opinion Eazy isn't unterrated at all. I don't care if some one else wrote couple of his song, eazy real muthafucca anyway.

Whats this situation all about, i never heard about that????


Robert – What was your reaction after Petey Pablo said those comments about You and Nate Dogg, and the west?

DJ Quik – You heard about that?

Robert – Oh yea, I think everybody has.

DJ Quik – Did he make it where umm, did he say something even afterwards after he said it at the club?

Robert – He said it on stage.

DJ Quik – Really? Well the good thing is he got booed for saying that shit.

Robert – Yea everybody on the west didn’t take it very nicely.

DJ Quik – Right. I think umm,ya know I worked with Petey and didn’t know he was that kind of guy but ya know; maybe had I not worked with him, he probably wouldn’t have said none of that shit. I don’t know why. I also think it was also because of the company he keeps these days to.