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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Navaveli on March 09, 2007, 06:37:16 PM
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Suge is shutting it down :o
In a recent interview with the New York Post, Death Row Records honcho Suge Knight expressed his recent desire to shut down the infamous label once and for all...
According to Suge, he was inspired to bring The Row legacy to an end after recent conversations he had with preachers Noel Jones and T.D. Jakes, both of whom advised him to move on. In early 2005, Suge was ordered to pay Lydia Harris, the wife of incarcerated drug kingpin Michael Harry-O Harris, $107 million in punitive and economic damages after Harris claimed that Knight shut her out of Death Row Records after she helped found the label. In April 2006 Knight filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection citing over $137 million dollars in outstanding debt and just $4.4 million in assets. The bankruptcy court would like to see Death Row continue operating under reorganization, but Suge has now stated that he would prefer to liquidate his publishing rights and settle his debts. I want to take care of the creditors. Im saying I dont want to keep living in the past, with the negativity, he said. According to the Post, a judge has already walked away from the case, as well as one of Suges attorneys who received a threat against his life.
Damn.. even though i dont like Suge Knight, Death Row was still a huge part of West Coast History... IF Suge never got Dre to start this label there might not be Snoop Doggy Dogg, DPG, Eminem, 50 Cent, G Unit...
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for reals?
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so if this happens, what exactly will happen to the music that DR put out? as in, who will own the rights to it? will anyone be able to buy rights to DR material and re-issue by themselves?
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Suges evil
Shoot him please
Thank you
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where is that dude with all these DR pictures in his sig?
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Wouldn't it be great if the masters get sold to the right people who know how to package this old classic DR material... unreleased Snoop, Dre, original Johnny J and Pac stuff, heck maybe even that N.I.N.A. album, Lord, please let the right people buy these masters
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forget about that man, i don't have enough money
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I bet suge has all the stuff locked in a closet in some penthouse overseas. Death threats on a judges life? please Suge always talks up shit for a public image.. its all bullshit, he's a crook and a evil mofo. The creditors will be left with dick except maybe the officially released masters and some publishing (remember "Suge knight publishing"?, yeah that's Suge not Death Row) and Suge will keep the rest.
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I bet suge has all the stuff locked in a closet in some penthouse overseas. Death threats on a judges life? please Suge always talks up shit for a public image.. its all bullshit, he's a crook and a evil mofo. The creditors will be left with dick except maybe the officially released masters and some publishing (remember "Suge knight publishing"?, yeah that's Suge not Death Row) and Suge will keep the rest.
DAMN, truth. He doesn't need to do Death Row records as long as he gots Suge Knight Publishing Company...which is all he's really been making money off of anyway.
-T
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full article 8)
March 9, 2007 -- THIS could be the death of Death Row Records, which launched the West Coast hip-hop sound of Tupac Shakur, Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre.
In an exclusive interview, Marion "Suge" Knight, 42, told Page Six he's ready to pull the plug on the label he founded in 1991. His change of direction occurred after he made two visits to the City of Refuge Church, near his hometown of Compton, near L.A., where preachers Noel Jones and T.D. Jakes eerily gave him the same message.
"You've got to be able to let the past go, and move forward to the future," he quoted Jones as saying. Two weeks later, Knight heard Jakes, who was visiting from Texas, say, "You can't keep living in the past. God gives you a chance to move on."
Knight says, "They talked about the same thing, and it felt like they were talking straight to me. I don't want to be tied up with this for years. I want to move on with my life in a more positive direction."
Knight, a 6-foot-4 behemoth who played football for University of Nevada, Las Vegas, has been battling in bankruptcy court since Lydia Harris won a $106 million judgment against Death Row by claiming that her crack-dealing husband, Michael, now doing 28 years in prison, co-founded the label and was entitled to a 50 percent stake in it.
Knight - who did prison time himself, for attempted murder - gave Harris a check for $1 million several years ago, "but once the money ran out, she sued again," he said.
The bankruptcy court wants Knight to keep operating Death Row under Chapter 11 reorganization, but he now wants to liquidate his publishing rights, pay off the creditors, and end his Death Row misery.
One of his lawyers quit the case because threats had been made against his life. The judge recently quit as well.
"I want to take care of the creditors. I'm saying I don't want to keep living in the past, with the negativity," Knight said.
"My approach to music now is different. I'm not Delores Tucker, but you do have to be careful what you say," observed Knight, who no longer uses the N-word.
"We shouldn't be constantly feeding negative energy to these kids," he said. "You can get rich with the devil's money, but you can only be happy with God's money."
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That's the good news of the week :)
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What does it matter? Death Row has been dead for years anyways.
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I bet suge has all the stuff locked in a closet in some penthouse overseas.The creditors will be left with dick except maybe the officially released masters and some publishing (remember "Suge knight publishing"?, yeah that's Suge not Death Row) and Suge will keep the rest.
Ain't that a bitch. You really think he will let ANYONE get away with that shit?
"My approach to music now is different. I'm not Delores Tucker, but you do have to be careful what you say," observed Knight, who no longer uses the N-word.
He said the same thing back in '97 just before he got sent to jail. Keeping up appearances it is called...
Wouldn't it be great if the masters get sold to the right people who know how to package this old classic DR material... unreleased Snoop, Dre, original Johnny J and Pac stuff, heck maybe even that N.I.N.A. album, Lord, please let the right people buy these masters
This will never happen...
Conclusion: I'm not buying it cause with Suge you neeeever know, alotta things he says have to be taken with a grain of salt (for better or worse)...
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It's kind of a shame. But they haven't been releasing any new or even any previously unreleased music in some time, anyway. I'll say this for Suge, it seems like during his las big push for Death Row, when he had signed Crooked I, Eastwood, Kurupt, and N.I.N.A., the police wouldn't leave him alone long enough for him to even focus on rebuilding his music label. I guess in that respect he did get treated unfair, there towards the end. Maybe just putting Death Row behind him and moving on to the next thing is the best answer. It doesn't seem that the powers that be were going to leave him alone to conduct business anyway.
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I dont know what you guys are talking about but Warlords gonna drop a classic and bring the row back! ::)
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suge can claim to be a born again christian for all i fuccin care. this fool robbed niggas blind and punked niggas that cant even fight bacc. this nigga ain't no man. now all of a sudden he's sorry. his money gone, his homies loooooong gone, nobody wants to fucc wit him and poor suge feels bad. I got a Eazy-E quote for Suge "you wasted four minutes...now you got seconds left...bitch!"
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Death Row's been dead for almost 10 years anyway. Who gives a fuck.
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Death Row's been dead for almost 10 years anyway. Who gives a fuck.
Thats exactly what i came in here to say.
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I dont know what you guys are talking about but Warlords gonna drop a classic and bring the row back! ::)
lol
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Death Row ain't done shit since 2pac died. It really died then. After he died Suge made money of 2pacs unreleased shit. All the other shit flopped. Miche'le, Nate Dogg, Daz, the compilation albums, all of it went down the toilet.
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Propz 2 SUGE KNIGHT
GOOD LUcK in Hawaii
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Death Row's been dead for almost 10 years anyway. Who gives a fuck.
Thats exactly what i came in here to say.
the real shame is that DR has rarely been a talentless label, suge was just horrible about putting his talent out after Pac died for some reason.
-T
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suge can claim to be a born again christian for all i fuccin care. this fool robbed niggas blind and punked niggas that cant even fight bacc. this nigga ain't no man. now all of a sudden he's sorry. his money gone, his homies loooooong gone, nobody wants to fucc wit him and poor suge feels bad. I got a Eazy-E quote for Suge "you wasted four minutes...now you got seconds left...bitch!"
Your an idiot the niggas that got burned fucked themselves young niggas signing contracts without reading them thats there bad homie. SPeaking of Eazy E look how he treated his artists and they werent just artists they were his friends and he fucked them all out of there money. Basically what im saying is Suge or Eazy aint the first Im positive RUssel SImmons, Jimmy Iovine and all the other major label CEOs have all fucked plenty of people outta money.
Anyways RIP Death Row They helped build this West Coast Shit and the Legacy will never Die.
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Death Row's been dead for almost 10 years anyway. Who gives a fuck.
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the real shame is that DR has rarely been a talentless label, suge was just horrible about putting his talent out after Pac died for some reason.
-T
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Man, that's the truth. Back in the day, I was always more on the Eazy/Ruthless side than Deathrow. But when Suge came out of prison, he was kinda the underdog, so I was sort of routing for him. But for hardcore Deathrow fans, I'm sure it had to be even worse. I mean, once every couple months or so there be some new info on their official website about another one of their artists working on their solo albums. But all we ever got were a couple movie sountracks and compilation after compilation. Or once in a while some unreleased music from a former artist. The closest they came to releasing a solo artist's album on the modern era Death Row was Kurupt's "Against the Grain" album. And they didn't even promote that because they said it was released without their consent. It seemed like aside from Kurupt, Crooked I had the best chance of getting his album released, but after several years he even gave up.
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Death Row's been dead for almost 10 years anyway. Who gives a fuck.
we're mainly just worried about who will get the music in the vaults/rights to release doggystyle/the chronic/dogg food
-T
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Assuming that Suge wasn't blackballed (which he probably was) then I think Suge's lack of success since he came out of prison, just proves that he really wasn't that big of a piece in Death Row's success in the 90's. It looks now like it was Dr. Dre who was the real genius and Jimmy Iovine and Interscope handling the business.
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It's kind of a shame. But they haven't been releasing any new or even any previously unreleased music in some time, anyway. I'll say this for Suge, it seems like during his las big push for Death Row, when he had signed Crooked I, Eastwood, Kurupt, and N.I.N.A., the police wouldn't leave him alone long enough for him to even focus on rebuilding his music label. I guess in that respect he did get treated unfair, there towards the end. Maybe just putting Death Row behind him and moving on to the next thing is the best answer. It doesn't seem that the powers that be were going to leave him alone to conduct business anyway.
Its also a shame he had Biggie killed over bullshit thats 10000 times any shame that comes from the "unfairness" cops displayed towards him. Probably coz those cops also have a share on the inside knowledge of his past
Go read Have Gun Will travel or L.A.Brynth & u'll see how evil a man Suge is
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It's kind of a shame. But they haven't been releasing any new or even any previously unreleased music in some time, anyway. I'll say this for Suge, it seems like during his las big push for Death Row, when he had signed Crooked I, Eastwood, Kurupt, and N.I.N.A., the police wouldn't leave him alone long enough for him to even focus on rebuilding his music label. I guess in that respect he did get treated unfair, there towards the end. Maybe just putting Death Row behind him and moving on to the next thing is the best answer. It doesn't seem that the powers that be were going to leave him alone to conduct business anyway.
Its also a shame he had Biggie killed over bullshit thats 10000 times any shame that comes from the "unfairness" cops displayed towards him. Probably coz those cops also have a share on the inside knowledge of his past
Go read Have Gun Will travel or L.A.Brynth & u'll see how evil a man Suge is
Yeah. You're probably right about that. What I was trying to get at was simply that it was a shame for fans of the music that none of this stuff was ever released. Of course if Suge was responsible for killing Biggie, I think that's horrible. I'm not trying to defend the man. But my point is regardless of whether it was warranted, all the times they interfered in the day-to-day operations of the label, helped prevent the music from being released. Ultimately, it is far more important that they make sure Suge isn't a threat to other people. But as it applies to this thread, I was thinking more in terms of the lost potential of all that music we as fans will never get to hear.
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Put Down the candy and let the littlel boy go, (in a gruff voice) Yew we got ya muthafuckin record company surrounded...
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It's kind of a shame. But they haven't been releasing any new or even any previously unreleased music in some time, anyway. I'll say this for Suge, it seems like during his las big push for Death Row, when he had signed Crooked I, Eastwood, Kurupt, and N.I.N.A., the police wouldn't leave him alone long enough for him to even focus on rebuilding his music label. I guess in that respect he did get treated unfair, there towards the end. Maybe just putting Death Row behind him and moving on to the next thing is the best answer. It doesn't seem that the powers that be were going to leave him alone to conduct business anyway.
Its also a shame he had Biggie killed over bullshit thats 10000 times any shame that comes from the "unfairness" cops displayed towards him. Probably coz those cops also have a share on the inside knowledge of his past
Go read Have Gun Will travel or L.A.Brynth & u'll see how evil a man Suge is
I've been trying to find a copy forever of Have gun will travel. but for the record, alot of people dispute the claims he makes. especially alot of the DR afficionados here. -T
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Anyone who's read any of my other posts knows I that I'm not a big fan of how Suge conducted business back in the old days. So it wouldn't be difficult getting me to believe that he might have had something to do with Biggie's murder. But either way, I don't think anyone could argue that we got a lot of good westcoast music out of there being a Death Row records. If Suge is responsible for a lot of the things that he's rumored to be, that's very fucked up. But when it comes to a lot of that stuff, I don't think we'll ever know for sure. So for the fact that we probably won't see albums like "Makaveli: One Nation," or Crooked I "Untouchable" I'm sorry things turned out the way they did. But don't misconstrue my meaning. As far as Suge's future endeavors and what happens to him after he's no longer responsible for the vast amount of unreleased material in Death Row's vaults (if that time ever really comes), that doesn't really interest me.
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Anyone who's read any of my other posts knows I that I'm not a big fan of how Suge conducted business back in the old days. So it wouldn't be difficult getting me to believe that he might have had something to do with Biggie's murder. But either way, I don't think anyone could argue that we got a lot of good westcoast music out of there being a Death Row records. If Suge is responsible for a lot of the things that he's rumored to be, that's very fucked up. But when it comes to a lot of that stuff, I don't think we'll ever know for sure. So for the fact that we probably won't see albums like "Makaveli: One Nation," or Crooked I "Untouchable" I'm sorry things turned out the way they did. But don't misconstrue my meaning. As far as Suge's future endeavors and what happens to him after he's no longer responsible for the vast amount of unreleased material in Death Row's vaults (if that time ever really comes), that doesn't really interest me.
well said +1
-T
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Assuming that Suge wasn't blackballed (which he probably was) then I think Suge's lack of success since he came out of prison, just proves that he really wasn't that big of a piece in Death Row's success in the 90's. It looks now like it was Dr. Dre who was the real genius and Jimmy Iovine and Interscope handling the business.
think you got that wrong.every one that was there at the time said suge was the business man dre was the music man.i think its right to say suge played a massive part in death row.dude was blacked balled when he came home from jail and it was never going to happen again for him..
for all the bad shit people like to say about him he also did the $100000 turkey give away, the mothers day brunch at bev hills hotel ,the fathers day visits and the rebuilding of kids play grounds in compton. at the end of the day he will always have his place in rap history.good or bad...
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It's kind of a shame. But they haven't been releasing any new or even any previously unreleased music in some time, anyway. I'll say this for Suge, it seems like during his las big push for Death Row, when he had signed Crooked I, Eastwood, Kurupt, and N.I.N.A., the police wouldn't leave him alone long enough for him to even focus on rebuilding his music label. I guess in that respect he did get treated unfair, there towards the end. Maybe just putting Death Row behind him and moving on to the next thing is the best answer. It doesn't seem that the powers that be were going to leave him alone to conduct business anyway.
Its also a shame he had Biggie killed over bullshit thats 10000 times any shame that comes from the "unfairness" cops displayed towards him. Probably coz those cops also have a share on the inside knowledge of his past
Go read Have Gun Will travel or L.A.Brynth & u'll see how evil a man Suge is
I've been trying to find a copy forever of Have gun will travel. but for the record, alot of people dispute the claims he makes. especially alot of the DR afficionados here. -T
Well some of the stuff is cooberated in L.A.Brynth... even if its only half true Suge isnt a nice person
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a gee isnīt a nice person. and dont need to be
a preacher a teacher a fireman a nurse these r or should be nice person,
all of u dudez claimin gangsta and glorryfy that life and if someone in tha rap game is a real gangsta u all hatin on him.
-waz he nice 2 his mum? hell yeah! eazy left his mum in compton and bought jerry bitch a house.
-waz he nice 2 his sisterz? hell yeah! the other Bompton Blood slapped his sista and did time 4 thiz shit.
-took he care of hiz homiez he grew up with. hell yeah! Buntry, Heron, Neckbone, Tray neva had a job before.
Hell yeah he punked a lot of muthafucKaz, but he allwayz waz loyal 2 hiz Fam and his real childhood friendz. straight gangsta.
all the rest of them Muthafuckaz r Hollywood gangstaz.
and i donīt give a fuck how he treated everybody else in tha world. snoop rbx and the rest of them wuz just buizness relationship. (sure they made all tha money, but without suges protection, they would be shit.)
ask BOOYA TRIBE and the Relativez bout Suge. and the these a real niggaz, ask Ice Cube Ice T, Mike Conception
RIP Death Row Records a REAL BLAcK Owned Record Label.
Me personally, would get into each otherīif i saw suge, but thats sum ghetto shit and not sum Music industry shit, so I need to be fair and give tha nigga hiz propz (4 tha industry shit) even he my enemy. 4 tha ghetto MOB Fruittown TTP shit silence iz tha bezt answer.
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a gee isnīt a nice person. and dont need t be
a preacher a teacher a fireman a nurse these r or should be nice person,
all of u dudez claimin gangsta and glorryfy that life and if someone in tha rap game is a real gangsta u all hatin on him.
waz he nice 2 his mum? hell yeah! eazy left his mum in compton and bought jerry bitch a house
waz he nice 2 his sisterz? hell yeah! the other Bompton Blood slapped his sista and did time 4 thiz shit.
took he care 4 hiz homiez he grew up with. hell yeah! Bunty, Heron, Neckbone, Tray neva had a job before.
Hell yeah he punked a lot of muthafucKaz, but he allwayz waz loyal 2 hiz Fam and his real childhood friendz. straight gangsta.
all the rest of them Muthafuckaz r Hollywood gangstaz.
and i donīt give a fuck how he treated everybody else in tha world. snoop rbx and the rest of them wuz just buizness relationship. (sure they made all tha money, but without suges protection, they would be shit.)
ask BOOYA TRIBE and the Relativez bout Suge. and the these a real niggaz, ask Ice Cube Ice T, Mike Conception
RIP Death Row Records a REAL BLAcK Owned Record Label.
Me personally, would get into each otherīif i saw suge, but thats sum ghetto shit and not sum Music industry shit, so I need to be fair and give tha nigga hiz propz (4 tha industry shit) even he my enemy. 4 tha ghetto MOB Fruittown TTP shit silence iz tha bezt answer.
i don't know when you're talkng about suge and when you're talking about eazy..was neckbone etc. eazy or suge friends?
-T
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a gee isnīt a nice person. and dont need t be
a preacher a teacher a fireman a nurse these r or should be nice person,
all of u dudez claimin gangsta and glorryfy that life and if someone in tha rap game is a real gangsta u all hatin on him.
waz he nice 2 his mum? hell yeah! eazy left his mum in compton and bought jerry bitch a house
waz he nice 2 his sisterz? hell yeah! the other Bompton Blood slapped his sista and did time 4 thiz shit.
took he care 4 hiz homiez he grew up with. hell yeah! Bunty, Heron, Neckbone, Tray neva had a job before.
Hell yeah he punked a lot of muthafucKaz, but he allwayz waz loyal 2 hiz Fam and his real childhood friendz. straight gangsta.
all the rest of them Muthafuckaz r Hollywood gangstaz.
and i donīt give a fuck how he treated everybody else in tha world. snoop rbx and the rest of them wuz just buizness relationship. (sure they made all tha money, but without suges protection, they would be shit.)
ask BOOYA TRIBE and the Relativez bout Suge. and the these a real niggaz, ask Ice Cube Ice T, Mike Conception
RIP Death Row Records a REAL BLAcK Owned Record Label.
Me personally, would get into each otherīif i saw suge, but thats sum ghetto shit and not sum Music industry shit, so I need to be fair and give tha nigga hiz propz (4 tha industry shit) even he my enemy. 4 tha ghetto MOB Fruittown TTP shit silence iz tha bezt answer.
i don't know when you're talkng about suge and when you're talking about eazy..was neckbone etc. eazy or suge friends?
-T
i donīt know what u talkin bout dude? i waznīt talkin bout eric!! i just said he bought jerry a house and left hiz mum in compton.
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Of course if Suge was responsible for killing Biggie, I think that's horrible.
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Why? Black men dyin everyday in tha streetz, Iznīt shootin your enemy glorryfied in Gangsta Rap?
Big Suge waz just keepin it real, Ha Ha , maybee too real 4 the most other West Coast artist.
Woudnīt your revenge your homiez: "if Puffy was responsible for killing BigJake, I think that's horrible, too.
So FUcK Biggie! And if u down with BadBoy than FUcK u too ;)
way back it wuz the media that started that WEST cOAST east coast shit. Ice Cube, WC, Quik, Snoop everybody waz dissin tha east, and than Biggie died and everybody went soft. what bout Big Jake. Fuck Puffy 4 that.
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a gee isnīt a nice person. and dont need t be
a preacher a teacher a fireman a nurse these r or should be nice person,
all of u dudez claimin gangsta and glorryfy that life and if someone in tha rap game is a real gangsta u all hatin on him.
waz he nice 2 his mum? hell yeah! eazy left his mum in compton and bought jerry bitch a house
waz he nice 2 his sisterz? hell yeah! the other Bompton Blood slapped his sista and did time 4 thiz shit.
took he care 4 hiz homiez he grew up with. hell yeah! Bunty, Heron, Neckbone, Tray neva had a job before.
Hell yeah he punked a lot of muthafucKaz, but he allwayz waz loyal 2 hiz Fam and his real childhood friendz. straight gangsta.
all the rest of them Muthafuckaz r Hollywood gangstaz.
and i donīt give a fuck how he treated everybody else in tha world. snoop rbx and the rest of them wuz just buizness relationship. (sure they made all tha money, but without suges protection, they would be shit.)
ask BOOYA TRIBE and the Relativez bout Suge. and the these a real niggaz, ask Ice Cube Ice T, Mike Conception
RIP Death Row Records a REAL BLAcK Owned Record Label.
Me personally, would get into each otherīif i saw suge, but thats sum ghetto shit and not sum Music industry shit, so I need to be fair and give tha nigga hiz propz (4 tha industry shit) even he my enemy. 4 tha ghetto MOB Fruittown TTP shit silence iz tha bezt answer.
i don't know when you're talkng about suge and when you're talking about eazy..was neckbone etc. eazy or suge friends?
-T
i donīt know what u talkin bout dude? i waznīt talkin bout eric!! i just said he bought jerry a house and left hiz mum in compton.
oh I understand now
-T
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Of course if Suge was responsible for killing Biggie, I think that's horrible.
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Why? Black men dyin everyday in tha streetz, Iznīt shootin your enemy glorryfied in Gangsta Rap?
Big Suge waz just keepin it real, Ha Ha , maybee too real 4 the most other West Coast artist.
Woudnīt your revenge your homiez: "if Puffy was responsible for killing BigJake, I think that's horrible, too.
So FUcK Biggie! And if u down with BadBoy than FUcK u too ;)
way back it wuz the media that started that WEST cOAST east coast shit. Ice Cube, WC, Quik, Snoop everybody waz dissin tha east, and than Biggie died and everybody went soft. what bout Big Jake. Fuck Puffy 4 that.
I kinda agree with homie, niggaz die everyday, not a good thing, and i dont wish death upon no one but there was talk that Biggie was involved in Pacs death. Now we dont kknow the facts but either way i would say this, if biggie was involved then he deserved what he got, he if wasnt involved in pacs death, than he dont deserve it... as for Big Jake dying, that was Pufffy, why is that nigga alvie, he should be the one getting capped NoT B.I.G. ... suge wanted real revenge he should have went after Puffy if it was retailation for Big Jake... if its for Pac than its biggie (and only if Biggie was involved in pacs death, no one really knows)...
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Of course if Suge was responsible for killing Biggie, I think that's horrible.
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Why? Black men dyin everyday in tha streetz, Iznīt shootin your enemy glorryfied in Gangsta Rap?
Big Suge waz just keepin it real, Ha Ha , maybee too real 4 the most other West Coast artist.
Woudnīt your revenge your homiez: "if Puffy was responsible for killing BigJake, I think that's horrible, too.
So FUcK Biggie! And if u down with BadBoy than FUcK u too ;)
way back it wuz the media that started that WEST cOAST east coast shit. Ice Cube, WC, Quik, Snoop everybody waz dissin tha east, and than Biggie died and everybody went soft. what bout Big Jake. Fuck Puffy 4 that.
lol the funny thing about that is you have to have anmesia for every other shit Suge does.. You contradict yourself.
For every good thing Suge does, he does a negative thing.
Why even try to recognize yourself as a 'real black label' when you fucking your own people over worst than some of these white boys. It's horrible that these Death Row artists have to leave the 'black label' to get better deals with the 'white labels'. I'm not sure what race you are, but us black people tend to put more trust in our own race.. It is messed up to trust Jimmy Iovine for a better deal..
He lets his artists use 'nigga' and 'bitch' in their songs because he claims to give them artistic freedom, but when his own freedom is on the line, he pleads to the judge that he will never let his artists use it again and that it'll be positive for black people. Even after his return from jail, he lets them use it.. so he was just full of shit..
He claims that Death Row Records is a real 'gangsta' label and but he signed that Gina chick.
He claims to help out fellow black people, provide turkeys for families, visits to dads in prison, yet he utilizies his 'street staff' to sell drugs to his own people. I've met some of his drug dealers..
He calls Snoop the snitch, yet he has half of the LAPD on his payroll for private security events. It's not a coincidence that Snoop was arrested for 3 seperate events in LA over the last year and then starts to diss Suge out of nowhere... lol.. It's quite obvious Suge is the snitch. Not only is he a snitch, but he also funds the cops to do certain things.
I can go on and on about Suge.. He is just a bad man that has a very ultimate guilty conscience.. That's why he consulting with prastors and shit..
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where is that dude with all these DR pictures in his sig?
yeah thats what i was thinking
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where is that dude with all these DR pictures in his sig?
yeah thats what i was thinking
dude got up and started heading to DR headquarters as soon as he heard the news.
-T
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Of course if Suge was responsible for killing Biggie, I think that's horrible.
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Why? Black men dyin everyday in tha streetz, Iznīt shootin your enemy glorryfied in Gangsta Rap?
Big Suge waz just keepin it real, Ha Ha , maybee too real 4 the most other West Coast artist.
Woudnīt your revenge your homiez: "if Puffy was responsible for killing BigJake, I think that's horrible, too.
So FUcK Biggie! And if u down with BadBoy than FUcK u too ;)
way back it wuz the media that started that WEST cOAST east coast shit. Ice Cube, WC, Quik, Snoop everybody waz dissin tha east, and than Biggie died and everybody went soft. what bout Big Jake. Fuck Puffy 4 that.
Puffy got big Jake killed
yeh right
Puffy about as gangsta as yo mama
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Of course if Suge was responsible for killing Biggie, I think that's horrible.
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Why? Black men dyin everyday in tha streetz, Iznīt shootin your enemy glorryfied in Gangsta Rap?
Big Suge waz just keepin it real, Ha Ha , maybee too real 4 the most other West Coast artist.
Woudnīt your revenge your homiez: "if Puffy was responsible for killing BigJake, I think that's horrible, too.
So FUcK Biggie! And if u down with BadBoy than FUcK u too ;)
way back it wuz the media that started that WEST cOAST east coast shit. Ice Cube, WC, Quik, Snoop everybody waz dissin tha east, and than Biggie died and everybody went soft. what bout Big Jake. Fuck Puffy 4 that.
lol the funny thing about that is you have to have anmesia for every other shit Suge does.. You contradict yourself.
For every good thing Suge does, he does a negative thing.
Why even try to recognize yourself as a 'real black label' when you fucking your own people over worst than some of these white boys. It's horrible that these Death Row artists have to leave the 'black label' to get better deals with the 'white labels'. I'm not sure what race you are, but us black people tend to put more trust in our own race.. It is messed up to trust Jimmy Iovine for a better deal..
He lets his artists use 'nigga' and 'bitch' in their songs because he claims to give them artistic freedom, but when his own freedom is on the line, he pleads to the judge that he will never let his artists use it again and that it'll be positive for black people. Even after his return from jail, he lets them use it.. so he was just full of shit..
He claims that Death Row Records is a real 'gangsta' label and but he signed that Gina chick.
He claims to help out fellow black people, provide turkeys for families, visits to dads in prison, yet he utilizies his 'street staff' to sell drugs to his own people. I've met some of his drug dealers..
He calls Snoop the snitch, yet he has half of the LAPD on his payroll for private security events. It's not a coincidence that Snoop was arrested for 3 seperate events in LA over the last year and then starts to diss Suge out of nowhere... lol.. It's quite obvious Suge is the snitch. Not only is he a snitch, but he also funds the cops to do certain things.
I can go on and on about Suge.. He is just a bad man that has a very ultimate guilty conscience.. That's why he consulting with prastors and shit..
thanks for posting that for me if i had the itme i woulda pointewd out the exact same things
Suge fucked us over too musically how many classics he rob us for
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Of course if Suge was responsible for killing Biggie, I think that's horrible.
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Why? Black men dyin everyday in tha streetz, Iznīt shootin your enemy glorryfied in Gangsta Rap?
Big Suge waz just keepin it real, Ha Ha , maybee too real 4 the most other West Coast artist.
Woudnīt your revenge your homiez: "if Puffy was responsible for killing BigJake, I think that's horrible, too.
So FUcK Biggie! And if u down with BadBoy than FUcK u too ;)
way back it wuz the media that started that WEST cOAST east coast shit. Ice Cube, WC, Quik, Snoop everybody waz dissin tha east, and than Biggie died and everybody went soft. what bout Big Jake. Fuck Puffy 4 that.
lol the funny thing about that is you have to have anmesia for every other shit Suge does.. You contradict yourself.
For every good thing Suge does, he does a negative thing.
Why even try to recognize yourself as a 'real black label' when you fucking your own people over worst than some of these white boys. It's horrible that these Death Row artists have to leave the 'black label' to get better deals with the 'white labels'. I'm not sure what race you are, but us black people tend to put more trust in our own race.. It is messed up to trust Jimmy Iovine for a better deal..
He lets his artists use 'nigga' and 'bitch' in their songs because he claims to give them artistic freedom, but when his own freedom is on the line, he pleads to the judge that he will never let his artists use it again and that it'll be positive for black people. Even after his return from jail, he lets them use it.. so he was just full of shit..
He claims that Death Row Records is a real 'gangsta' label and but he signed that Gina chick.
He claims to help out fellow black people, provide turkeys for families, visits to dads in prison, yet he utilizies his 'street staff' to sell drugs to his own people. I've met some of his drug dealers..
He calls Snoop the snitch, yet he has half of the LAPD on his payroll for private security events. It's not a coincidence that Snoop was arrested for 3 seperate events in LA over the last year and then starts to diss Suge out of nowhere... lol.. It's quite obvious Suge is the snitch. Not only is he a snitch, but he also funds the cops to do certain things.
I can go on and on about Suge.. He is just a bad man that has a very ultimate guilty conscience.. That's why he consulting with prastors and shit..
thanks for posting that for me if i had the itme i woulda pointewd out the exact same things
Suge fucked us over too musically how many classics he rob us for
Troof +1. So many sick Row albums would have happened if suge would done his people right...Kurupt woulda had a crazy solo on tha row....engies, it's crazy...we've been talking on the internet since 1999 and shit. good to see you still around.
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lol the funny thing about that is you have to have anmesia for every other shit Suge does.. You contradict yourself.
Homie u donīt understand me or u donīt want to. I neva told u Suge iz a good perzon and he donīt punked nobody and waz allways fair . all i waz sayin iz Suge iz claimin gangsta and he allwayz behaved like one. there iz no fairness in tha streetz. if i can punk u becauze of my personal interestz, i will do that . what do you all think ? we shootin each other sellin crack to kids and then behavin like Martin luther king or what? If u gloryfy that kind of lifestyle u can`t trust nobody.
u all down with tony montana and O dogg from menace and than hatin on suge? i feel sorry 4 all that people that are disapointed, but what did u all people expected from him? he no robin hood, u got to be fair even u like tha muthafucka or not.
I liked pac and orlando waz from the other side, but i got to be fair if i was Lando i did the same thang u know iīm sayin.
The only peepz that can trust on me iz my fam and my Homiez fuck tha rest of the world , and Suge did tha same thing. u canīt judge hím, ask yourself what would u do?
He waz down 4 hiz real onez and that countz. donīt judge him, if u got a problem with him handle your shit, but only god can judge us. every story got 2 sides and maybee more.
For every good thing Suge does, he does a negative thing.
absolutley right he iz from tha streetz and the person Suge Knight carez the most, iz Suge Knight, like the person i care the most, is me. :)
Why even try to recognize yourself as a 'real black label' when you fucking your own people over worst than some of these white boys. It's horrible that these Death Row artists have to leave the 'black label' to get better deals with the 'white labels'. I'm not sure what race you are, but us black people tend to put more trust in our own race.. It is messed up to trust Jimmy Iovine for a better deal..
I am samoan, black. cuz the white mens ice colder than ourz. but your absolutley right.
He lets his artists use 'nigga' and 'bitch' in their songs because he claims to give them artistic freedom, but when his own freedom is on the line, he pleads to the judge that he will never let his artists use it again and that it'll be positive for black people. Even after his return from jail, he lets them use it.. so he was just full of shit..
He claims that Death Row Records is a real 'gangsta' label and but he signed that Gina chick.
becauze of her dad. I would do tha same thang, why not. if i can buy muthafuckaz iīll buy them.
He claims to help out fellow black people, provide turkeys for families, visits to dads in prison, yet he utilizies his 'street staff' to sell drugs to his own people. I've met some of his drug dealers..
yep. the same thang most of the other rappers claiming they did, i mean tha drug sellin shit, not the turkey shit
He calls Snoop the snitch, yet he has half of the LAPD on his payroll for private security events. It's not a coincidence that Snoop was arrested for 3 seperate events in LA over the last year and then starts to diss Suge out of nowhere... lol.. It's quite obvious Suge is the snitch. Not only is he a snitch, but he also funds the cops to do certain things.
No, homie. Suge bought sum police officers, they worked 4 him not the other way around. respect to anyone from the streetz able 2 to that .
I can go on and on about Suge.. He is just a bad man
yes he iz. and whatz tha problem? if he waz bad to you or yourz handle your shit, if not donīt judge tha nigga for beeing real to thiz lifestyle all of the hip-hop comunity is gloryfyin.
that has a very ultimate guilty conscience.. That's why he consulting with prastors and shit..
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Your points are only good if Suge Knight matched what you say. See.. Suge Knight tries to play Victim, God, Hero, and Gangsta at the same time. Bottom line is that Suge is a college educated business man that had the money to buy his image. He is only gangsta because of affilation. He plays God to his artists, Hero to the media for tax write-offs and victim when he is held responsible for his acts.
My personal rant.. no offense man. I personally hate when people use that phrase "don't judge him" or "only God can judge him/her".. That phrase comes from the bible and it is directly related to people assuming that someone would not inherit the after-life. People exaggerate it to mean that we shouldn't judge a person, however, one of the most potent gifts that God gives human beings is the gift of free-will and judgement. Over and over he tells us to not associate ourselves with bad men, to flee sin etc etc. Judgement is needed to obey God's command, if it wasn't, then how would we know the difference between right and wrong? Therefore, no.. God is not the only one that can judge.. God is the only one that can judge a person and deny that person the after life.
Therefore, Suge Knight is a BAD person, however, I do believe he has the ability to become a better person.
Peace :)
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Your points are only good if Suge Knight matched what you say. See.. Suge Knight tries to play Victim, God, Hero, and Gangsta at the same time. Bottom line is that Suge is a college educated business man that had the money to buy his image. He is only gangsta because of affilation. He plays God to his artists, Hero to the media for tax write-offs and victim when he is held responsible for his acts.
My personal rant.. no offense man. I personally hate when people use that phrase "don't judge him" or "only God can judge him/her".. That phrase comes from the bible and it is directly related to people assuming that someone would not inherit the after-life. People exaggerate it to mean that we shouldn't judge a person, however, one of the most potent gifts that God gives human beings is the gift of free-will and judgement. Over and over he tells us to not associate ourselves with bad men, to flee sin etc etc. Judgement is needed to obey God's command, if it wasn't, then how would we know the difference between right and wrong? Therefore, no.. God is not the only one that can judge.. God is the only one that can judge a person and deny that person the after life.
Therefore, Suge Knight is a BAD person, however, I do believe he has the ability to become a better person.
Peace :)
That was some real talk man, +1
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Assuming that Suge wasn't blackballed (which he probably was) then I think Suge's lack of success since he came out of prison, just proves that he really wasn't that big of a piece in Death Row's success in the 90's. It looks now like it was Dr. Dre who was the real genius and Jimmy Iovine and Interscope handling the business.
Bryan giving props to a Jew? I'd never thought I'd see the day.
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go to fuckin bed.
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^^^ that was a little harsh Stop Snitchin