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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on March 10, 2007, 03:42:40 PM
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Check this out... Hip-Hop is a male form of expression. Chuck D used to say that when he was making the final desicion about which tracks to keep for his album; he would play them for his girl, and if she really hated one of them; then he knew that one was good enough to make the album!
In today's market, the men who are hip-hop heads are the ones who are giulty of bootlegging and illegal downloading. The women will actually go out and buy the albums. That's why you see rappers like Eminem putting all those pictures in their liner notes for a "bonus package" to boost sales. It's also why you see rappers like T.I. selling millions, after doing gay-ass teen flicks like that Lil Bow Wow movie.
Actually, whites don't really deserve as much blame as people think, unless you are counting Jews as white people. And then you could blame Jews because they control the industry through ownership of the industry. Eazy at Ruthless (Jerry Heller) Puffy of Bad Boy (Clive Davis of Arista), Suge, Dre, Eminem, 50 Cent of Death Row/Aftermath/G-Unit (under Jimmy Iovine of Interscope), Russell Simmons over at Def Jam (partners with Lyor Cohen)... they were all under the watchful eye of somebody Jewish, or had parent labels owned by Jews. Robert Johnson sold out black people when he sold BET to Jews over at Viacom, and Jews already owned MTV. So that's part of why you see all these video's selling sex and no substance.
So we can safely give white suburban kids a break on this issue.
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Check this out... Hip-Hop is a male form of expression. Chuck D used to say that when he was making the final desicion about which tracks to keep for his album; he would play them for his girl, and if she really hated one of them; then he knew that one was good enough to make the album!
In today's market, the men who are hip-hop heads are the ones who are giulty of bootlegging and illegal downloading. The women will actually go out and buy the albums. That's why you see rappers like Eminem putting all those pictures in their liner notes for a "bonus package" to boost sales. It's also why you see rappers like T.I. selling millions, after doing gay-ass teen flicks like that Lil Bow Wow movie.
Actually, whites don't really deserve as much blame as people think, unless you are counting Jews as white people. And then you could blame Jews because they control the industry through ownership of the industry. Puffy of Bad Boy (Clive Davis of Arista), Suge, Dre, Eminem, 50 Cent of Death Row/Aftermath/G-Unit (under Jimmy Iovine of Interscope), Russell Simmons over at Def Jam (partners with Lyor Cohen)... they were all under the watchful eye of somebody Jewish, or had parent labels owned by Jews. Robert Johnson sold out black people when he sold BET to Jews over at Viacom, and Jews already owned MTV. So that's part of why you see all these video's selling sex and no substance.
So we can safely give white suburban kids a break on this issue.
once agian. Have you watched ATL? don't call it a gay teen-flick film. Would you call Boys N Da Hood a teen-flick? Menace 2 Society? if not, don't call ATL 1. T.I. has been selling millions of copies for 4 years now, count em dog, 4 years.
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once agian. Have you watched ATL? don't call it a gay teen-flick film. Would you call Boys N Da Hood a teen-flick? Menace 2 Society? if not, don't call ATL 1. T.I. has been selling millions of copies for 4 years now, count em dog, 4 years.
LOL @ you comparing ATL to Boyz in Da Hood or Menace to Society. Boyz in Da Hood and Menace to Society were classic coming of age drama's, that could never be equalled in today's era. Your right about one thing, I haven't seen ATL, but all I needed to know was that BowWow and T.I. were in it, and there's no way it could compare to Ice Cube and MC Eight starring in early 90's movies.
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once agian. Have you watched ATL? don't call it a gay teen-flick film. Would you call Boys N Da Hood a teen-flick? Menace 2 Society? if not, don't call ATL 1. T.I. has been selling millions of copies for 4 years now, count em dog, 4 years.
LOL @ you comparing ATL to Boyz in Da Hood or Menace to Society. Boyz in Da Hood and Menace to Society were classic coming of age drama's, that could never be equalled in today's era. Your right about one thing, I haven't seen ATL, but all I needed to know was that BowWow and T.I. were in it, and there's no way it could compare to Ice Cube and MC Eight starring in early 90's movies.
ATL is a great film. T.I. is the only father figure for his younger brother, who falls into the wrong crowd, and its T.I.'s job to show him that drugs isn't the only way to make money. Bow Wow is in it? shit dog, thats news to me.
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The topic of this thread has little to do with what you posted. You didn't explain how black women are a reason hip-hop is dead. You explained women in general, but that was already known (props on the Chuck D story). You're logic with T.I. doesn't make any sense and Lunatic explained why. And don't you ever get tired with singing the same old song? We get it. Jews control everything. You don't have to mention it all the time.
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once agian. Have you watched ATL? don't call it a gay teen-flick film. Would you call Boys N Da Hood a teen-flick? Menace 2 Society? if not, don't call ATL 1.
ATL is just like any other high school movies... just with blacks in it, that's why you like it.
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once agian. Have you watched ATL? don't call it a gay teen-flick film. Would you call Boys N Da Hood a teen-flick? Menace 2 Society? if not, don't call ATL 1.
ATL is just like any other high school movies... just with blacks in it, that's why you like it.
it delivers the same type of message movies like Boys N Da Hood do. I actually bet you most teens who went 2 watch it dis-liked it, because they were expecting more of a "hood comedy" The audience that would enjoy a film like ATL is a mature one
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Nope wrong. It's always the devil's fault. Always. That means, of course, death come the revolution.
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so why is it just black women to blame for hip hop being dead? all races listen to hip hop
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so why is it just black women to blame for hip hop being dead? all races listen to hip hop
It's not just black people. Bryan also blames whites and Jews for the problems of hip-hop/the world.
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All right, I think the initial post was rather vague in several areas, hopefully I may clear up some of the confusion.
Since there were several grouped classifications of individuals in the thread title, white people and black women, I will follow the trend and group the poster as a literalist Catholic. Now, I will stray from the posters trend setting and use logic to explain my grouping.
1. The poster presents males as the dominant being by addressing them first and relating them as the individuals with power. This is done through the Chuck D. example, I am in no way indicating that Chuck D. is/was sexist, but the purpose of this example was to instill a theme of male dominance. The males were then addressed and responsible for bootlegging and downloading, which is the source of the revolution. Here the males are glorified, and rightfully so, no female has a computer with music that she downloaded. That is a blasphemous thought.
This closely relates to the theory that males are dominant and the original of the sexes because Eve was formed from a rib of Adam.
2. The poster sates that all black women are responsible, and then only addresses the women who purchase cds for bonus pictures. As each of us knows, all races of women purchase cds.
The origins of human beings have been traced to Africa, where people are black. This means that Adam and Eve were in Africa, so they must have been black. As the descendants of two black parents, we are all black; hence all women are black women.
3. He has nothing but spite for Jews. He is under the belief that these Jews killed the son of his God, which explains the misplaced rage.
My end conclusion, now resorting back to the trend of grouping, is that all literalist Catholics believe that black women are in part to blame for the fall of hip hop.
Where did this tangent come from? My mom works with retarded kids all day, and through the stories of her days at worked, I am developing an ability to think like them and present their thoughts in full.
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Lol, that abdul akhbar character is getting funnier and funnier.
You should be sued for having "Shakur" in your screename.
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once agian. Have you watched ATL? don't call it a gay teen-flick film. Would you call Boys N Da Hood a teen-flick? Menace 2 Society? if not, don't call ATL 1.
ATL is just like any other high school movies... just with blacks in it, that's why you like it.
it delivers the same type of message movies like Boys N Da Hood do. I actually bet you most teens who went 2 watch it dis-liked it, because they were expecting more of a "hood comedy" The audience that would enjoy a film like ATL is a mature one
Is ATL that movie where T.I. is skating on roller blades?
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3. He has nothing but spite for Jews. He is under the belief that these Jews killed the son of his God, which explains the misplaced rage.
Infinte is a Muslim.
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3. He has nothing but spite for Jews. He is under the belief that these Jews killed the son of his God, which explains the misplaced rage.
Infinte is a Muslim.
There goes that posters whole argument. Infinite isn't just Muslim, he thinks he is black much less doesn't give credit.
The thought that people are anti-semitic because of what happened to Jesus always bothered me. Hatred for jews pre-dates and exists outside of Christianity. There is no doubt that an immensely disproportionate amount of the media and the business world is run by jewish people. People that say that are not anti-semitic, and people that deny that are not sane. It's when you generalize the group or hate and resent them because they are jewish that you become anti-semitic. It's not anti-black to say the NBA is dominated by black players and it's not anti-semetic to say that the music industry is dominated by jews.
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I thought the sarcasm throughout my post was prevalent, and I figured that if I picked one of the more ridiculous misconceptions, that Jews should be/are hated for the “death” of Christ, it would clear up any confusion that it was not intended to be taken seriously.
I guess not.
Anymore, the posts that are made are odd opinions with no support at all. So, I made a claim that was obviously incorrect, if you have read any of the thread starter's prior posts, and then supported it in an attempt to make a point.
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wow bryan went totally schizo. his thread title blames black women, but then says that women are the ones who actually buy hip hop rather than bootleg it. The only negative he presented was the Chuck D story.
Bryan, when are you gonna do a hot remix of your 2pacalynians song? Can I get 16 on that?
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once agian. Have you watched ATL? don't call it a gay teen-flick film. Would you call Boys N Da Hood a teen-flick? Menace 2 Society? if not, don't call ATL 1.
ATL is just like any other high school movies... just with blacks in it, that's why you like it.
it delivers the same type of message movies like Boys N Da Hood do. I actually bet you most teens who went 2 watch it dis-liked it, because they were expecting more of a "hood comedy" The audience that would enjoy a film like ATL is a mature one
Is ATL that movie where T.I. is skating on roller blades?
i get your sarcasm. yes it is, but the trailor focuses alot more on that, then the actual film. the whole roller skating thing, plays a very small part in the film, it's just a hangout spot.
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I want to go back to that post comparing T.I. (who is at the skating rink or somethin some poster said) in his movie... to classics like Menace to Society and Boyz In Da Hood.
Menace to Society had the Muslim character Shareef in it, who was a positive character, and along with his father they carried a definite influence in the movie. And it wasn't about "making money in a honest way" like someone said T.I.'s movie was about... but the Muslim character in Menace to Society was talking about knowledge of self (which is the true wealth by the way). And just to finish my point, Boyz In Da Hood also had a Muslim character, in case you didn't catch it.. the boys father was a Muslim (refused to eat pork) taught his son how to be a man.
So I think we can stop comparing T.I.'s cheezeball teen flick to the classic hip-hop movies of the early 90's like Menace, Boyz, Juice, Jason's Lyric.. all those are in a league and era of their own.
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^^^ funny
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Black women are actually one of the reasons hip hop is still alive, they buy CD's, Jay,TI, Luda wouldn't have sold those million plus without them, back in the day they were buying Pac and Big while alotta dudes were bootleging
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2Pac pretty much said it all "rap for the bitches, not for the n***az",,,,,thats why 99% of singles released are geared to women so they can sell.
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Black women are actually one of the reasons hip hop is still alive, they buy CD's, Jay,TI, Luda wouldn't have sold those million plus without them, back in the day they were buying Pac and Big while alotta dudes were bootleging
Rap is making money, but hip-hop is dead. I'll explain the difference using KRS-1's explaination.... he said that "rap" is something you do. But hip-hop is something you live. Rap may be selling, but hip-hop as a culture and way of life is suffering.
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Black women are actually one of the reasons hip hop is still alive, they buy CD's, Jay,TI, Luda wouldn't have sold those million plus without them, back in the day they were buying Pac and Big while alotta dudes were bootleging
Rap is making money, but hip-hop is dead. I'll explain the difference using KRS-1's explaination.... he said that "rap" is something you do. But hip-hop is something you live. Rap may be selling, but hip-hop as a culture and way of life is suffering.
It was never a way of life. You could never survive in the world using only what hop hop gave you. It is not a real culture. It's just a sub culture of urban society. It takes a lot more than a few spray painting tags, some dance moves, and music to make up a culture. What is this hip hop way of life? What was it about hip hop that changed the way people lived? Everyone always talks about it but no one really defines. Those dimwits at Studio 54 in the 70s thought their bullshit subculture was a way of life too.
And even I got a kick of your only reasoning for those two films being better than ATL was because of muslim influence. I guess you didn't watch ATL because in the end one of the major characters converts to Islam and changes his thug ways for the truth and black unity to help his entire people living in the ghetto.
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I want to go back to that post comparing T.I. (who is at the skating rink or somethin some poster said) in his movie... to classics like Menace to Society and Boyz In Da Hood.
Menace to Society had the Muslim character Shareef in it, who was a positive character, and along with his father they carried a definite influence in the movie. And it wasn't about "making money in a honest way" like someone said T.I.'s movie was about... but the Muslim character in Menace to Society was talking about knowledge of self (which is the true wealth by the way). And just to finish my point, Boyz In Da Hood also had a Muslim character, in case you didn't catch it.. the boys father was a Muslim (refused to eat pork) taught his son how to be a man.
So I think we can stop comparing T.I.'s cheezeball teen flick to the classic hip-hop movies of the early 90's like Menace, Boyz, Juice, Jason's Lyric.. all those are in a league and era of their own.
what I mean by making money in an honest way is "selling drugs", "gangbanging" etc. isn't the only way to be successful in the hood. T.I.'s brother believes so, and falls into the wrong crowd. T.I. is the only father figure for his brother, and has to show him the right way in life.
the skating rink is simply a hangout spot where T.I. & his friends like to spend there time.
The movie pretty much revolves around 4 friends, and shows how each of there lifes are going into different directions.
you should really stop calling it a teen flick, since you haven't even seen it. You have already displayed your knowledge of the film, by saying Lil Bow Wow was in it.
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Black women are actually one of the reasons hip hop is still alive, they buy CD's, Jay,TI, Luda wouldn't have sold those million plus without them, back in the day they were buying Pac and Big while alotta dudes were bootleging
Rap is making money, but hip-hop is dead. I'll explain the difference using KRS-1's explaination.... he said that "rap" is something you do. But hip-hop is something you live. Rap may be selling, but hip-hop as a culture and way of life is suffering.
Uh, right. So how are these 90s flicks dipped in muslim-sauce actually "hip hop"?