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Title: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: Don Jacob on March 13, 2007, 12:28:29 PM
(http://www.memoram.com/Shaq_handsOFF.jpg) vs (http://s94468673.onlinehome.us/T5T/chamberlain.jpg)
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 13, 2007, 12:34:15 PM
Wilt, no question...
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: Don Jacob on March 13, 2007, 12:39:52 PM
shaq would fuck wilt up chuck lidell style
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 13, 2007, 12:52:33 PM
^power doesn't work against skilled players with great defense. 8)
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: Don Jacob on March 13, 2007, 12:56:51 PM
^ good, so you're saying shaq was better then.

shaq=stronger, smarter, quicker, more agile, more moves
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 13, 2007, 01:15:25 PM
^ good, so you're saying shaq was better then.

shaq=stronger, smarter, quicker, more agile, more moves



The only thing that was right in what you just said was that Shaq was stronger...Wilt was way smarter, way more agile, way more skilled, had way more moves, way quicker, way BETTER. You're right, Wilt didn't depend on upper body strength though...
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: GangstaBoogy on March 13, 2007, 01:38:20 PM
Great match up. Shaq was beastly in his prime, but I can't vote against a man who's averaged 50 points a game. Wilt got it.
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: wcsoldier on March 13, 2007, 01:52:59 PM
Tough choice... they played in completely different eras... Shaq is the most dominant player ever physically wise but Wilt was better overall .. Wilt
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: E. J. Rizo on March 13, 2007, 03:10:46 PM
would have to say shaq based on what i seen him do with my own eyes in my era... he simply dominated.... for how strong and big he is he was very quick and agile.. he kicked ass... wilt would have been fun to watch as well... but i think i just enjoyed shaq's style and way of dominating... but close...
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: Don Jacob on March 13, 2007, 04:28:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/6QmhTWmAaBc vs http://www.youtube.com/v/OFqZlGVswZ8
shaq would fuck the shit outta wilt
like i said shaq had more strength speed (ran the court), intellect (phenominal passing), more moves (what center do you know can bust a cross over, look at all his fake outs in this video)

put shaq up at any point in his career and put wilt's same point against that and shaq wins everytime
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: PLANT on March 13, 2007, 04:40:57 PM
I voted for Shaq.  I never saw Wilt play, but IMO the competition now is much better than it was in Wilts time.  So yeah, Shaq.
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: WC Iz Active on March 13, 2007, 04:54:56 PM
Wilt easily
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 13, 2007, 04:57:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/6QmhTWmAaBc vs http://www.youtube.com/v/OFqZlGVswZ8
shaq would fuck the shit outta wilt
like i said shaq had more strength speed (ran the court), intellect (phenominal passing), more moves (what center do you know can bust a cross over, look at all his fake outs in this video)

put shaq up at any point in his career and put wilt's same point against that and shaq wins everytime


Sorry, but Shaq's crossover sucks ass, he looks like a big dufus when he pulls that shit, Wilt moves way more fluidly, way more like a point guard, I know all the old school clips are in slow motion and that's what you're judging him on, but look at the way he twists and bends his body to make some of those shots, not to mention almost every shot is right over someone with a hand in his face, it's unbelievable. If Hakeem was capable of shitting on Shaq, imagine what players like Wilt and Kareem would have done! Wilt was WAY greater than Shaq, not even comparable...
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 13, 2007, 04:58:47 PM
IMO the competition now is much better than it was in Wilts time. 


Contrary to popular belief, this is NOT true.
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: mrceo on March 13, 2007, 05:57:21 PM
IMO the competition now is much better than it was in Wilts time. 


Contrary to popular belief, this is NOT true.

You're tellin' me Shaq wouldn't have averaged the same numbers as Wilt back in the day, the competition definitely wasn't as tough, that's why Wilt had those outrageous averages
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 13, 2007, 06:23:31 PM
IMO the competition now is much better than it was in Wilts time. 


Contrary to popular belief, this is NOT true.

You're tellin' me Shaq wouldn't have averaged the same numbers as Wilt back in the day, the competition definitely wasn't as tough, that's why Wilt had those outrageous averages


LOL. You're brainwashed... The competition wasn't as tough? There were way more pure centers back then, and the rules allowed much more contact, Shaq would not have averaged 50 in a season! Bill Russell was a better defender than ANY defender Shaq has ever faced, and Wilt would constantly put him in his place as well!...The NBA might have been a little weaker in its George Mikan days (the 50's), but the Wilt/Russell era was extremely competitive...
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: PLANT on March 13, 2007, 06:25:57 PM
there is no way in hell Wilt would be scoring 100 points in a game during this era.  Its insane that Kobe even scored 81, and he prolly would have been an even better scorer had he played in Wilts era.  Sorry, I just dont see how you can really compare the 2, and even if you do I still think Shaq is the better player.
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: PLANT on March 13, 2007, 06:29:17 PM
There are more dominant centers that Shaq played against than Wilt too.  Sure Wilt played against Russell, but Shaq played against the Dream, Ewing, Mourning (great center in his prime) Sabonis, now Yao, even KG and guys like Kemp back in the early 90s were much better athletes and better players than back in the day.
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 14, 2007, 10:47:19 AM
there is no way in hell Wilt would be scoring 100 points in a game during this era.  Its insane that Kobe even scored 81, and he prolly would have been an even better scorer had he played in Wilts era.  Sorry, I just dont see how you can really compare the 2, and even if you do I still think Shaq is the better player.


Wilt would score 100 if he shot as much as he did in that game...LMAO@Shaq playing against more dominant centers! Try Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Willis Reed, Bob Lanier, Dave Cowens, Nate Thurmand, Artis Gilmore, Wes Unseld, Spencer Haywood, Bob McAdoo etc. etc. etc....Point is, Wilt >>>>>>> Shaq.
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: "THE" MoSav on March 14, 2007, 04:13:06 PM
Wilt easily

yup
Vlade Proved that Shaq struggled more with Smart players. Wilt wouldve ate Shaq up..
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: "THE" MoSav on March 14, 2007, 04:17:15 PM
LOL@someone mentioning Ardvyas Sabonis, he had a better career in Europe then he did in the NBA.
Wilt>>>Shaq
Baskletball today is not better, just cuz players are more athletic doesnt make them better. Its rare to even find more then 2 or 3 guys per team that are pure shooters...
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: J$crILLa on March 15, 2007, 02:12:12 AM
WILT> SHAQ

wouldve been my vote...

the argument over competition is bullshit.. the NBA is at a low now days with competition.. since 00 its dropped horibly, yeah in the 90s shaq played some competivive b=ball
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 15, 2007, 10:48:18 AM
I think you ended this vote wayyy too quickly, some people were still gunna vote, and it was EXTREMELY close...You really wanted Shaq to win, huh?
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: M Dogg™ on March 15, 2007, 11:16:19 AM
how are we going to end this when we let Dream/Russell stand for amost a week. I was going to vote Wilt.

Justification.

Shaq struggled against centers like Hakeem, he would have struggled against Kareem, and why is that, speed. Wilt was faster, had better foot work, and Shaq's D is average, were as Wilt's D was just amazing. Put Wilt in the 90's, his a top 3 center, second MAYBE to Hakeem and I'll spot you one more. But no one dominated the game like Wilt, no one. I used the justification to vote Russell over Hakeem, and no one had any problem with that. If Russell>Hakeem then, Wilt>Shaq. It's that simple. I wouldn't argue, Shaq is great, but Wilt IMO, is the GOAT of all centers.
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: M Dogg™ on March 15, 2007, 11:23:09 AM
WILT> SHAQ

wouldve been my vote...

the argument over competition is bullshit.. the NBA is at a low now days with competition.. since 00 its dropped horibly, yeah in the 90s shaq played some competivive b=ball

shit, in the 90's, I think might have peak centers dominance, and yet the 90's was dominated by MJ, so who knows. But since 2000, the era of the monster center is over.
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on March 15, 2007, 11:28:13 AM
how are we going to end this when we let Dream/Russell stand for amost a week. I was going to vote Wilt.

Justification.

Shaq struggled against centers like Hakeem, he would have struggled against Kareem, and why is that, speed. Wilt was faster, had better foot work, and Shaq's D is average, were as Wilt's D was just amazing. Put Wilt in the 90's, his a top 3 center, second MAYBE to Hakeem and I'll spot you one more. But no one dominated the game like Wilt, no one. I used the justification to vote Russell over Hakeem, and no one had any problem with that. If Russell>Hakeem then, Wilt>Shaq. It's that simple. I wouldn't argue, Shaq is great, but Wilt IMO, is the GOAT of all centers.


I could be wrong, but I have a feeling Jake ended it early cuz Shaq was in the lead...That makes 2 regulars who didn't make it to vote in time. The score woulda' stood at 11 to 10 right now if it was still open...
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: WC Iz Active on March 15, 2007, 11:31:53 AM
LMAO at Jake ending this wayyy to early, what a joke!  LMAO at anyone picking Shaq, what a fuckin disgrace.
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: WC Iz Active on March 15, 2007, 12:12:47 PM
LMAO at Jake ending this wayyy to early, what a joke!  LMAO at anyone picking Shaq, what a fuckin disgrace.
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: Don Jacob on March 15, 2007, 04:42:43 PM
how are we going to end this when we let Dream/Russell stand for amost a week. I was going to vote Wilt.

Justification.

Shaq struggled against centers like Hakeem, he would have struggled against Kareem, and why is that, speed. Wilt was faster, had better foot work, and Shaq's D is average, were as Wilt's D was just amazing. Put Wilt in the 90's, his a top 3 center, second MAYBE to Hakeem and I'll spot you one more. But no one dominated the game like Wilt, no one. I used the justification to vote Russell over Hakeem, and no one had any problem with that. If Russell>Hakeem then, Wilt>Shaq. It's that simple. I wouldn't argue, Shaq is great, but Wilt IMO, is the GOAT of all centers.


I could be wrong, but I have a feeling Jake ended it early cuz Shaq was in the lead...That makes 2 regulars who didn't make it to vote in time. The score woulda' stood at 11 to 10 right now if it was still open...

1. all of the round two polls were started at the same
2. the shaq/wilt one was actually the last of the three i closed, first being the the malone/kareem, second being the russell hakeem , third being the shaq and chamberlin
3. i've closed polls sooner... 32 hours i believe, 24 hours is the shortest time i'll personally allow
4. i did want shaq to win but i was already going to close it wether or not he was winning or not
5. also taking into consideration the low turn out for these polls, 19 votes was alot. also i'm at school til 11 today, i don't want to be bothered with spending too much time on here.
6. sorry if you're wilt fan, should have voted sooner
7. kareem is going to win anyway
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on March 15, 2007, 05:49:02 PM
The Shaq Groupies = Ignorant Faggots :grumpy:
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: R-Tistic on March 18, 2007, 01:59:16 PM
I would have voted for Wilt.
Title: Re: RND 2 DUBCC'S GOAT CENTER: #3 SHAQ VS #4 WILT
Post by: Maestro Minded on March 18, 2007, 03:40:24 PM
hell yea.. shaq's the man